I like Osi, but most of his sacks where knocking the ball out of the QB’s hand as he was running by behind the QB, not actually hitting him. He isn’t even close to the level that Tuck plays at. No way is he worth top 5 money.

What has he done lately?? He is just not all-pro caliber these days.

Yeah he was hurt but it seems like he hasn’t put out 100% effort. Ya know, once an acl is blown guys always think twice. He previously mentioned he wanted to be reunited with Spags, I say trade em. to St Louis

He’s just gonna whine for the next two seasons and will be a cancer in the lockeroom.

Gotta watch out for those “honest church goin’ types, they’ll screw ya in a NY minute

When the GM said, “…. two years….,” then Osi should have said, “Put it in writing.”

Many contracts have an opt-out after 2 or 3 years for just this reason. That allows both the team to get rid of a draft bust and a player to get paid if he becomes an unexpected star. Any competent agent would know how to word that.

Lol not really. I’m not arguing that osi doesn’t currently deserve a new contract. Mikes post & osi’s filing of the affidavit has nothing to do with that irrelevant point either. I’m saying its a complete joke he’s claiming he was “irreparablely harmed” and that the GM didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. Again, if he feels he currently deserves a new contract, that’s fine, he can demand a trade or sit out til he gets one when there is a new cba. But this is certainly not the way to go about it & in no way did he deserve one last off-season.

oh, and lets not forget….osi didnt do shiite in 09 because of injuries….but of course he still got paid. as far as i can tell osi still owes the giants one more good season before he gets his extension.

we don’t hate the players, we’re just realistic. there is a finite revenue supply. if you’re going to continue to pay a former superstar player that can no longer start due to an injury like he is still a superstar, then that money has to come from somewhere. it’ll come from the player’s salary who took his place. i think if that player is no longer on a team’s roster, he doesn’t deserve to still be paid for the job he’s no longer doing. that’s true of any profession.
plus, just because he can’t make millions any more doesnt mean he’s cut off for life. he can go out and get a normal job just like anyone else. i think being paid a couple million in the past few years & now being on a 40-60k/year salary is perfectly fine to live off of. every sports player (and every non-sports worker in america) knows that the non-guaranteed portions of his/her salaries completely depends on them being able to physically & mentally do their jobs. if they can’t they aren’t going to make as much as they were before. that’s why mommy & daddy always said it’s important to save your money & not to go out and blow it on expensive tastes.

The Giants can then trade Palmer to any team who is willing to give up a young LB for him, and the Giants will fill one of their big holes.

Everybody gets what they want.

Bottom line: if he’s being paid under $5M/year, he’s underpaid. I’m talking about his base salary and his guaranteed signing bonus. If those two combined for 2011 are less than $5M, he’s getting hosed. I realize he was given a $15M signing bonus… I just need to see what the breakdown of his contract is and how much he lost in 2008.

Why is it that his efforts to maximize the gain for those talents within that window are somehow evil? It’s exactly the same thing the owners are trying to do, except that no entire team will ever fall to injury. In other words, a player is bargaining from a position of inherent weakness, and a team is bargaining from a position of inherent strength.

A player signs a big contract, is suddenly injured, his production falters and fails, his contract is not guaranteed. One year later, he is released. The next year, he has to fight for a contract, if he’s able to play at all. Perhaps he gets one, perhaps he does not.

A team has a great player at a crucial position, they have paid him, and promise to pay him more. But he is suddenly injured. They put him on IR and go get another player. When the injured star is released, the team has already transitioned seamlessly. Their revenue stream was not in any way interrupted. The injured star however, has been released, and now he’s an injury question mark. Can he perform? Who’s going to take that chance? Where is his revenue stream?

This is the reason that the old CBA was weighted towards the players. Because they risk more, and when they lose what they risk, it cannot be replaced.

Why are you all so stupid and blind?

A lot of teams would want him… St. Louis is one of them, I’m sure. If we got a 1st and JPP had another year under his belt, I’d feel a lot better about parting ways with Osi.

“before 2008, Osi was the clear-cut starter”
and that was the same time they made their agreement. osi had to continue playing at that same level (a top producing player) for another 2 years to get a new contract or be traded. he didn’t. do you honestly expect the giants to say, “even though you have yet to show you’re the same player you where before your injury, here’s a new contract anyways”?

if he wants to argue that after this past season he’s back to where he was before and now deserves a new contract or to be traded, that’s fine. they can work it out after a new CBA is reached. but 1) the GM didn’t lie to him 2)the uncapped year had nothing to do with him not getting a contract last offseason 3)the current lockout has not permanently prevented him from getting or reduced the amount of a new contract he could receive. 4) the time period for that deal expired.

thus, his affidavit is pointless. he’s just trying to use the league’s current situation as contract/trade leverage.

Yeah, you’re right. He’s terrible. Lots of DE’s do that.

The Judges need to explain to the players a contract is a promise and no goodwill is created by never living up to your obligations!

too bad the verbal agreement wasn’t for 3 years down the road (not that there has been any sort of offseason since the ’10 season anyways). it was for the offseason BEFORE 2010. how can you expect the giants to restructure his contract & give him more money when he’s not even good enough to keep his starting job.

@ nahcouldntbethat

1) the GM didn’t lie. osi was so bad he lost his starting job in 09.
2) the contracts are binding from a players perspective. haynesworth still got his guaranteed money when he refused to actually try. burress still got his after he shot himself in the leg with a gun he was illegally carrying.

too bad he wasn’t playing at a “high level.”
he missed all of the 08 season with an injury. in 09 he lost his starting job for the last 5 games of the season, didn’t make the probowl or allpro team, and finished tied for 23rd in the league with 7 sacks. seems to me like he wasn’t playing at a high level.

if that’s the best the NFLPA can do to “prove” damages they’re in trouble.

And again, 12 sacks last year, 10 FF’s. Jason Taylor won Defensive POY in 2006 with 13.5 sacks and 9 FF’s. Really? Osi hasn’t done anything in this league? Averaging 10.5 sacks and 5 FF’s in his past 5 full seasons with the Giants? I’ll take that every year from my weakside DE.

Who’s been better statistically? Jared Allen, that’s it. The only other WSDE that’s comparable is Dwight Freeney.

@ Chapman_Jamie:

Name me a team that hasn’t had player contract issues in the past 5 seasons…
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Touche’

How about having 10 forced fumbled… 4 more than anyone else in the league, whilst having the same sack count as Tuck?

Name me a team that hasn’t had player contract issues in the past 5 seasons…

Osi doesn’t make enough $, but he is under contract for 2 more years, need this done asap too.

how about the Giants go away for a bit till we have actual football under way

or do we need to talk about that loser Jacobs this week too