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Vikings stadium plan won’t meet meaningless deadline

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The bad news for the proposed Vikings stadium in Minnesota is that supporters won’t meet a Friday deadline for coming up with a way to pay for $131 million in road improvements at the proposed Arden Hills location.  The good news is that the Friday deadline is meaningless.

It’s meaningless because, as Kevin Duchschere of the Minneapolis Star Tribune explains, arrangements still have not been made for a special legislative session later this month, at which time the stadium plan possibly would be converted into a finalized stadium bill.

“Obviously, it all depends on whether we have a special session the last week of the month, and at this point that’s still very much up in the air,” Rep. Morrie Lanning said Thursday, per Duchschere.

Further complicating matters is the fact that a proposed sports memorabilia tax will generate, on closer review, half of the amount previously estimated.  So instead of $17.6 million per year, the tax will produce $8.8 million per year — requiring the state to come up with another $8.8 million per year.

The bigger challenge in Minnesota remains solving the state’s budget crisis.  Absent a new deal, the government will shut down on June 30.

And, absent a deal for a new Vikings stadium, the team will be free to leave after the 2011 season.

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28 Responses to “Vikings stadium plan won’t meet meaningless deadline”
  1. krow101 says: Jun 17, 2011 8:10 AM

    What happened? Didn’t the taxpayers bend over quick enough? Hey, ‘Zigy the billionaire’ needs another socialist wealth transfer … from the poor and middle class to the rich. Close a hospital or something. Cut the school lunch program. C’mon folks … have you seen the price of Porsches lately?

  2. pkrjones says: Jun 17, 2011 8:58 AM

    Hello Zygi & the Vikings… what don’t you understand about the lack of ticket sales or the majority of taxpayers NOT wanting to higher taxes and additional budget shortfalls? Minnesota doesn’t want you!! Farmer’s Field awaits the L.A. Vikings…

  3. phantomthebusybody says: Jun 17, 2011 9:42 AM

    Why would the Vikings even want to stay in Minny? It’s obvious that MN fans don’t want them (of course, who can blame them). They should just move to LA and then they can move back in 15 years after the LA fans get bored with all of the losing.

  4. clintonportisheadd says: Jun 17, 2011 9:45 AM

    It’s pretty obvious that the MAJORITY of the taxpayers in Minnesota are not going to allow a billionaire to get a huge helping of corporate welfare. Anyone foolish enough to dispute this assertion only needs to check out the lengths to which the people behind this scam to block any referendum on the issue.

    Most folks in Minnesota know that the voodoo math being pushed by Wilf and Drayton doesn’t add up and they would never get their money back. Ever. They look at New Jersey and see that the taxpayers STILL owing 110 million on the old Giants stadium (now a parking lot). They look at Seattle residents STILL paying off the Kingdome (which was blown up in 2000).

    With a 5 billion dollar (thats billion with a B kids!) state deficit to dig out from under courtesy of ex Governor and mannequin Tim Pawlenty, the taxpayers are adamant that this idea go off and die it’s well deserved death.

  5. johnsticle says: Jun 17, 2011 9:53 AM

    Where are you getting your source prkjones? Most of the people I know in Minnesota want the Vikings to stay.

  6. blizzard01 says: Jun 17, 2011 9:59 AM

    Minnesota better wake up-

    When teams leave cities, the city realizes what it lost and does what it can to get another team:

    Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, St. Louis,
    Los Angeles….

    Keep repeating that you hate rich people- and live in a former great metropolitan area.

  7. mj5150 says: Jun 17, 2011 10:04 AM

    what do you mean lack of ticket sales????
    the Vikings are offering more money than ALL of the Mn sports teams that got stadiums COMBINED!!! They have patiently waited for over 10 years to get a stadium built-this isn’t like they just asked a few months ago-LOL
    anyone who lives in Mn knows this is 100% the legislatures fault-you don’t need to dig very deep to see perfect examples-35W bridge collapse-there were well documented times that for almost 10 years it was considered “fracture critical” and they did nothing to expedite replacing the bridge-they waited until a disaster took place. THEN you had the MetroDump roof collapse-just imagine if that was DURING the game-there would’ve been deaths- the roof had a life expentancy of 20 years-it’s been on there for 30……….hmmmm so we build a stadium that had no air conditioning, no color scoreboard & roof that was to last 20 years-NOW THAT is some forward thinking!!!!!

  8. vikefan says: Jun 17, 2011 10:04 AM

    What happened? Didn’t the taxpayers bend over quick enough? Hey, ‘Zigy the billionaire’ needs another socialist wealth transfer … from the poor and middle class to the rich. Close a hospital or something. Cut the school lunch program. C’mon folks … have you seen the price of Porsches lately?

    ***************************Hello Zygi & the Vikings… what don’t you understand about the lack of ticket sales or the majority of taxpayers NOT wanting to higher taxes and additional budget shortfalls? Minnesota doesn’t want you!! Farmer’s Field awaits the L.A. Vikings…

    **************
    sounds like someone will be upset when special session is in place and bill will be passed, boo hoo

  9. pkrjones says: Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM

    “The poll says 64 percent of Minnesotans oppose using taxpayer money to build the stadium – even if there is a chance the Vikings would move to another state – and 30 percent favor public funding.”-http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=851309

    “The NFL has given the Minnesota Vikings one last chance to sell out the Metrodome for Sunday’s playoff game against Philadelphia…It’s the first time the Vikings have been in the playoffs since the 2004 season.” – http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/01/02/vikings_tickets/

  10. recon163 says: Jun 17, 2011 10:46 AM

    @ blizzard01 says: Jun 17, 2011 9:59 AM

    “When teams leave cities, the city realizes what it lost and does what it can to get another team:
    Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, St. Louis,
    Los Angeles….”

    You can take LA off that list. The city and the people of the city will not blindly give public money away to a billionaire to build a stadium.

    Both stadium efforts in LA are touting they are 100% privately financed. One that is demanding $300 million in public loans, is running into lots of public opposition.

    “Keep repeating that you hate rich people- and live in a former great metropolitan area.”

    Not having an NFL team has not hurt LA. A great metro area does not need an NFL team. A mediocre metro area may, but not a great one.

  11. tumsman2 says: Jun 17, 2011 10:54 AM

    Would it make a difference if Zygi wasn’t a billioniare? What if he was just a wealthy business man who owned the Vikings? The fact that he’s been successful in his other business ventures shouldn’t impact his ability to get a stadium financed.

  12. aznredneck says: Jun 17, 2011 11:07 AM

    hey you people that say that the MN people dont want the Vikings need to get your story straight. The people of MN want them to stay, they just dont want to pay for it.

    Its the same type of concept of downloading free music online. Its all great and dandy when your downloading for “free” but then all of a sudden that free service is gone (or threatening to be gone) and now to get that music you need to pay a fee or more fees. Initially you are all up in arms and going “whoa, whoa, whoa. it was “free” before but now you want money or more money for music?? i’m not going to pay for it. ill be fine without it.” so then you try to find some other way to get that source of music but you realize there is nothing out there that was as good as before. So you decide to pay for it and realize how good it is (ie. iTunes)

    The people of MN (yes i am a lifelong resident) need to wake up and realize that NFL football is a nationwide asset and an asset to any state that has the privilage to have an NFL team.

    Now get over the fact that people want the team and concentrate on the fact that the damn politicians cant come up with a state budget but the damn Governor is willing to shutdown the government which will cause even more problems. That’s one of the few last hurdles that is holding up the new stadium. If there weren’t a budget disagreement, the stadium bill would’ve passed months ago.

  13. comeonnowguys says: Jun 17, 2011 11:20 AM

    Only real question left is whether the Vikes adopt “California Girls” as their new theme song after they move.

  14. thephantomstranger says: Jun 17, 2011 11:24 AM

    This governor is a joke. The legislature passed a budget that increases spending and balances the budget, and the governor vetoed it. Not enough spending and not enough taxes for the “rich.” Does anyone expect this guy to get a stadium deal done?

    Nevertheless, it’s going to happen. Vikings aren’t going anywhere, haters!

  15. recon163 says: Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM

    @ aznredneck:

    “The people of MN (yes i am a lifelong resident) need to wake up and realize that NFL football is a nationwide asset and an asset to any state that has the privilage to have an NFL team.”

    Not really an asset and in fact in many places paying to have an NFL team is a liability. See New Jersey, Seattle, and Pontiac, Michigan.

    The NFL wants you to believe that you ‘MUST’ have an NFL team but the hard reality is that you don’t.

  16. locutus says: Jun 17, 2011 11:41 AM

    People with hidden agendas (ie packer fans) and/or deadbeats need not comment on threads involving Viking stadium issues. Wasted bandwidth.

    Politicians are inept and they certainly grow them more inept in Minnesota, however I cannot imagine that they would let a cashcow like the Vikings leave.

  17. tumsman2 says: Jun 17, 2011 11:45 AM

    For those of you who are opposed to funding a new stadium in MN, i ask that you not be surprised when the Vikings roster is filled with ‘B’ players, not ‘A’ players. With a new stadium come more revenue. More revenue means the team can pay up for better players.

    If the state/county/fans aren’t willing to share in the costs and get a deal done, we can’t be upset with Zygi when he fields a mediocre team.

  18. mj5150 says: Jun 17, 2011 12:01 PM

    locutus says:
    Jun 17, 2011 11:41 AM
    Politicians are inept and they certainly grow them more inept in Minnesota, however I cannot imagine that they would let a cashcow like the Vikings leave.

    ————————————————–

    please refer to the Minnesota North Stars before you make comments like that-they wouldn’t build them an arena-so they left-we then had to pay hundreds of millions to get a new franchise-and FUNNY we had to build a new arena-LOL

  19. mj5150 says: Jun 17, 2011 12:06 PM

    pkrjones says:
    Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM
    “The poll says 64 percent of Minnesotans oppose using taxpayer money to build the stadium – even if there is a chance the Vikings would move to another state – and 30 percent favor public funding.”-http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=851309

    “The NFL has given the Minnesota Vikings one last chance to sell out the Metrodome for Sunday’s playoff game against Philadelphia…It’s the first time the Vikings have been in the playoffs since the 2004 season.” – http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/01/02/vikings_tickets/

    ___________________________________
    first of all…….minnesota public radio????
    you are referring to a very boring period for Vikings fans (i have had season tickets for 17 years) we won a mediocre division with extremely boring play- everyone knew we weren’t going to do anything in the playoffs with T-Jack at QB- and FUNNY we got our buuts kicked in that game-LOL

  20. Justin says: Jun 17, 2011 12:25 PM

    Lester just appeared on KFAN today and sounded pretty optimistic. Lets just get the road stuff figured out and get this thing going. (MN Sports news http://minnesporta.wordpress.com/)

  21. blackngoldmachine says: Jun 17, 2011 12:52 PM

    Is Favre gonna pitch in?
    He said the vikes can play at lam-butt on the fudge packers’ off weeks…. until he and the stadium are ready.

  22. salox5274 says: Jun 17, 2011 12:52 PM

    I’m absolutely amazed at how blind some people are ! All the haters should take thier blinders off and do some research. Look at how much tax $ was generated for MN from the Vikings and the dome ( games,superbowl,final four,concerts,etc etc) over the years…and how many jobs (construction and retail)will be lost or not created without a new stadium !!!

    This will help your economy so quit crying over a .01 or .015 cent tax raise….

    If they move to LA your taxes will eventually go up because of lost tax revenue so why not just do it now and keep the vikings

  23. comeonnowguys says: Jun 17, 2011 1:48 PM

    @locutus

    “People with hidden agendas (ie packer fans) and/or deadbeats need not comment on threads involving Viking stadium issues. Wasted bandwidth.”

    Best of luck with that. Is this the first website with anonymous commenting you’ve ever frequented?

    It’s our God-given right to spout off whenever any two of our brain cells bump into each other. Now I just have to wait for it to happen again. …Be back in 3 days.

  24. cosanostra71 says: Jun 17, 2011 1:50 PM

    I really hope they move here to LA!

  25. locutus says: Jun 17, 2011 2:29 PM

    mj5150 says:
    Jun 17, 2011 12:01 PM

    please refer to the Minnesota North Stars before you make comments like that-they wouldn’t build them an arena-so they left-we then had to pay hundreds of millions to get a new franchise-and FUNNY we had to build a new arena-LOL

    I know. And the Lakers before that. Let’s hope these idiots have learned something over the misery they’ve inflicted over the years.

    comeonnowguys says:
    Jun 17, 2011 1:48 PM

    Best of luck with that. Is this the first website with anonymous commenting you’ve ever frequented?

    It’s our God-given right to spout off whenever any two of our brain cells bump into each other. Now I just have to wait for it to happen again. …Be back in 3 days.

    Can’t blame me for trying…

  26. brewdogg says: Jun 18, 2011 12:05 AM

    comeonnowguys says:
    Jun 17, 2011 1:48 PM
    @locutus

    “People with hidden agendas (ie packer fans) and/or deadbeats need not comment on threads involving Viking stadium issues. Wasted bandwidth.”

    Best of luck with that. Is this the first website with anonymous commenting you’ve ever frequented?

    It’s our God-given right to spout off whenever any two of our brain cells bump into each other. Now I just have to wait for it to happen again. …Be back in 3 days.
    —————————————-

    duh-dum-TING!!

    Nice post. Return at your leisure, sir. (bows with respect)

  27. johnsticle says: Jun 18, 2011 10:27 AM

    pkrjones says: Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM

    “The poll says 64 percent of Minnesotans oppose using taxpayer money to build the stadium – even if there is a chance the Vikings would move to another state – and 30 percent favor public funding.”-http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=851309

    _______________________________________

    All that proves is people don’t wanna pay for it. Your argument that residents don’t want the Vikings in Minnesota is invalid.

  28. mdnittlion says: Jun 18, 2011 5:49 PM

    In other news water is still wet and the sky is still blue.

    Big deal if a region doesn’t want an NFL team than don’t force them too. Look at Jacksonville as a great example.

    If the state wants to put more time into their real budget issues and not a sports team than more power to them. But I’d rather not hear about the Vikings moving to LA for the next year. If anything I’d rather see the Raiders go back to the town that wanted them the most to began with.

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