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Chris Johnson likely to hold out without a new deal

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Chris Johnson probably won’t be ready to return to work when the owners and the players finally reach a deal to end the lockout — unless he reaches his own deal on a new contract with the Titans.

Although Johnson is saying the right things about being more focused on getting better as a player than getting paid more, Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that Johnson wants a new deal, and he won’t show up for training camp without one.

Wyatt reports that multiple sources have said Johnson won’t budge on his contract demands, and if he has to sit out before he can get a new deal, that’s what he’ll do.

Johnson showed up to player-organized workouts last week and declined to complain about his current deal, but that shouldn’t be misconstrued as a sign that he’s happy. Last year Johnson said he’d demand a “history deal” — by which he presumably meant the biggest contract for a running back in NFL history — before he’d play in 2011. He hasn’t changed his mind.

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  1. woakland says: Jun 18, 2011 1:42 PM

    It would be nice to know how much he is set to make this year and how that compares to other players with much less production. Just a thought.

  2. skoobyfl says: Jun 18, 2011 1:45 PM

    He likely deserves it & with the new must spend 90% of the TV money deal imminent, this dog will hunt.

  3. CKL says: Jun 18, 2011 1:46 PM

    You know who deserves double pay? Reporters who have to translate what CJ says into English.

  4. p4hbiz says: Jun 18, 2011 1:46 PM

    He’s the best player on the team, why not.

  5. fastrichie says: Jun 18, 2011 1:46 PM

    Hey Chris … You might wanna think about having that “history season” before you hold out for a “history deal”!

  6. chizzle20 says: Jun 18, 2011 1:49 PM

    If the owners can do it why can’t the players?

  7. romoscollarbone says: Jun 18, 2011 1:52 PM

    RBs gotta strike while the iron’s hot. I don’t blame him. I know he contorts his body away from the big hit, but he’s not a huge man. Needs to capitalize now.

  8. berniemadoffsides says: Jun 18, 2011 1:57 PM

    This just makes me appreciate Arian Foster even more for not holding out after he just put up MONSTER stats for a relatively modest NFL salary.

  9. titanprime says: Jun 18, 2011 2:04 PM

    Honestly, I’d say he deserves a massive contract. He hasn’t gotten in any serious trouble yet and has proven himself to be pretty durable for a running back these days. However, Bud Adams isn’t known for spending. Don’t be shocked if he holds out for all of camp and seriously wants out. If there is ever going to be another Hershel Walker type trade, it will happen with CJ. As a Titans fan, I pray that doesn’t happen. He is pretty much the whole team right now.

  10. tigerphins says: Jun 18, 2011 2:05 PM

    When you’re a 7th round pick making 7th round money while playing like a 1st rounder, you should hold out for 1st round money…………. wait, nevermind.

  11. beastofeden says: Jun 18, 2011 2:06 PM

    His high school should have held out on a diploma until he learned the English language.

  12. virusgvr says: Jun 18, 2011 2:07 PM

    Why should he get a “historic deal”??? He had one awesome year where he had over 2000 yards. The problem I find is that ho 2010 stats and his 2008 stats are pretty much the same. He doesn’t have any huge gains in any certain section. I think this guy is a decent RB, but not one that deserves like 100 million.

  13. 4512dawg4512 says: Jun 18, 2011 2:08 PM

    What a chump. I don’t remember T.O ever asking for a “History Deal”. Let him sit, and while he’s pouting they could make a move at Reggie Bush

  14. huskersrock1 says: Jun 18, 2011 2:17 PM

    Maybe he should have a “history season” first. What ever happened to 2500 yards?

  15. footballfanatic2010 says: Jun 18, 2011 2:18 PM

    He doesn’t deserve a, “history deal.”

    He was the 7th best RB last year…trade his ass.

  16. pacificamjr says: Jun 18, 2011 2:19 PM

    its gonna be 3500 yards this year beyatches!!!!

  17. virusgvr says: Jun 18, 2011 2:25 PM

    And the best comment of all goes to…… (drumroll)…… CKL!!!! That is absolutely priceless!!!! HAHAHA!!!!

  18. eaglesfan290 says: Jun 18, 2011 2:30 PM

    This is exactly why the Owners have a problem with the players. The Owners are expected to hand over 50% of the revenue to players, and players sign deals as an insurance policy in case of a career ending injury, then when they outplay a deal they holdout and cry foul!

    Both sides need to understand when you sign a contract it is legally binding and you have to be a Man and live up to the terms!

    I don’t see the owners getting a piece of the players endorsement deals, but the NFL as a league and individual organizations have as much to do with the marketability of individual players as the players have to do with making the league successful………….where is the partnership in that relationship?

    The new CBA should not allow a player to holdout on a contract. 4 years you are a free agent, you can only have the franchise tag used on you for one year, a player that holds out is suspended without pay for a year, and he doesn’t count against the cap allowing a team to bring in a replacement if needed (this way players who are willing to play are not unfairly burdened), an impartial judge or mediator should be appointed to facilitate speedy resolutions to contract related problems this should also include suspensions so you don’t have (Star-cap lawsuits and endless appeals that render a suspension irrelevant). A fair way needs to be found to allow players to find vale in a contract, but at the same time not hold team’s hostage all the time.

  19. tigerphins says: Jun 18, 2011 2:35 PM

    Leave the guy’s speech alone…… it’s not his fault 30 pounds of gold keep his mouth from opening and closing properly.

    CJ would run a 3.7 if he had his teeth removed.

  20. devrocks247 says: Jun 18, 2011 3:20 PM

    Yep, gotta get this lockout over with so the holdouts can begin.

  21. justanotherdummy says: Jun 18, 2011 3:23 PM

    CJ is an amazing, fast and talented running back. But you just don’t throw boatloads of money at backs, because they are too easily taken out of the game. A decent defense with a solid plan (and no threat of a tremendous passing attack, which is likely to describe the Titans) will just key on him and stop the running game. If the Oline creates space, you do not need a superior runner to have a solid rush game. Add into that the career length of many rb’s and it just makes no sense to write him a massive check. Spend the money on the lines, D end and CB.

  22. pittman2052 says: Jun 18, 2011 3:32 PM

    How about he actually honor his contract and let the owner decide whether or not he is going to get a big time pay day. He can hold out all he wants, but in the end if he doesn’t want to play, he will be the one not getting paid anything.

  23. footballfanatic2010 says: Jun 18, 2011 3:36 PM

    eaglesfan290 — That would work, but you’d have to require the owners to pay the remaining amount left on a contract if they release them early.

  24. jeff061 says: Jun 18, 2011 3:42 PM

    Another case of a player and agent purposely neogitiating a contract with balloon payments in the early years of a contract – then on the back end when lower, (because the front end payments were so high) he cries that he’s underpaid

    He picked the wrong year to hold out – the Titans will tell him to stand in line

  25. dixinpunani says: Jun 18, 2011 4:11 PM

    eaglesfan290 you forgot to mention the flipside of the coin where teams give players backloaded deals that they never intend to honor. In fact there are many players forced to renegotiate their contract or get cut once the guaranteed portion is paid. So why shouldn’t the players look out for themselves?

  26. ravensfan4life52 says: Jun 18, 2011 4:23 PM

    I still don’t understand what this guy is saying when he speaks.

  27. eaglesfan290 says: Jun 18, 2011 4:50 PM

    Guys. I totally agree, but keep in mind when a player gets “Guaranteed money” that money gets paid even when the player is gone. A good example was the Jake Delhomme deal last year and probably what will happen with Haynesworth this year.

    I say just get rid of the guaranteed money and make a base salary guaranteed with incentives not to exceed 40% of the base, the risk and reward can be all above board…………..but if you have to cut a guy he still gets paid the base salary, but doesn’t count against the cap. This makes teams do proper due diligence on a player before free agency similar to what they do before the draft………….more teams will be cautious and actually do homework and there will be real value set for players not this inflated artificial AL Davis/Dan Snyder sign anyone at any price mentality. I think by making the base 100% guaranteed money it puts owners of being in a position of having to pay a guy if they are bad owners.

    I think mentioning Hanyesworth you would have to add some type of clause that prevents guys from signing a 100 million dollar deal and then just refusing to play.

    Plus it would also be a good idea to make the base the same for every year of the contract. It would make determining value at a specific position that much easier. It would become clear very quickly how much a QB, CB, DE, TE was worth.

  28. FinFan68 says: Jun 18, 2011 5:39 PM

    Of course he wants a new deal. You know… “cuz dem gode teefs be spensive” He is a good RB. He is not a great RB. the 2k was largely because Fischer kept running the ball for that purpose only. He does not deserve a “history deal”

  29. mostepicgnar says: Jun 18, 2011 5:56 PM

    This could have easily been handled by the owners of every sport, several years ago.

    Imagine if they said to the players, “Here is our breakdown of player salaries. You get a base, the rest is completely incentive based. The best players and top picks will make more than the 7th round pick and the backups, but not by 10,20,30 million more”. If you are a Quarterback and you finish with the most Touchdown passes, you get 500k, etc, etc”.

    Owners collectively don’t have the stomach to withstand the negative criticism for a several year lockout. I understand due to a degree, with all the money they have on the line.

    Basically the owners could say, “Here is the deal, sign it or we will find other players who will sign it”. I understand due to a degree, with all the money they have on the line. You can’t replace the owners, but you CAN replace the players. There are 32 owners, there are 1600 players who come and go.

    I’m not saying football would be as good initially, but I guarentee the players would eventually sign it. There is too much money on the side of player deals, that eventually their legal team would cave. Their agents would be getting 20 cents on the dollar, but it is better than nothing.

    I think anyone that looks at this issue down the middle can see what I am illustrating. Sam Bradford for example. Do we really think he wouldn’t have signed his initial contract, if the signing bonus was cut in half years back?

    With regards to the physical toll on their bodies, nobody is forcing them to play.

  30. 6thsense79 says: Jun 18, 2011 7:07 PM

    You player haters really need to get a grip. This is how NFL business is conducted. NFL management has something that other sports leagues don’t have. They have the ability to cut a player at just about any point in the player’s contract and not have to pay the full amount. MLB doesn’t operate that way, the NHL doesn’t operate that way, and the NBA doesn’t operate that way.

    Yet you seem to think some great injustice is being done to teams or owners when players hold out in the middle of a contract.

    Yet I didn’t see anyone shed a tear for Thomas Jones when he had the best year of his career with the Jets (1300+ yards rushing and 10 td) yet was asked to take a pay cut and when he refused he got cut. And Jones isn’t the only one dozens of players every season are either forced by management to renogotiate their contract to something more favorable to the team or cut in the middle of a contract for a number of reasons (poor play, salary cap issues, found a better player at that position, whatever). Now I don’t fault the teams and understand this is just business. But I do understand that things cut both ways.

    In what other league can you give a player a $70+ million dollar contract and when they don’t perform like you thought they would the team can get out of it paying only $3.5 million?

    Even the poster boys for bad contracts Albert Haynesworth and Jamarcus Russell will never see the full value of the contracts they signed. Haynesworth will more than likely see about 40% of that $100 million dollar contract. Russell saw about about 50% of his $61 million dollar contract.

    What other sports league can get out of mistakes like those without paying full price? What other major sports league in this country has that luxury?

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….if you as a fan don’t want holdouts then you must want fully guaranteed contracts other wise be quiet and understand this is how things are done in the NFL. Why is it that you don’t see NHL, NBA or MLB players ever holding out even when some of them have what’s considered below market contracts? Is it because they’re somehow more noble than NFL players and believe “a contract is a contract”? (Yea right). No it’s because the contract is guaranteed.

  31. freedomispopular says: Jun 18, 2011 7:15 PM

    If pay was incentive-based, players would do their best to beef up their own stats rather than lay it all on the line for the team.

  32. xxwhodatxx says: Jun 18, 2011 7:23 PM

    I hope he does hold out and never gets paid

  33. 6thsense79 says: Jun 18, 2011 7:39 PM

    virusgvr says:
    Jun 18, 2011 2:07 PM
    Why should he get a “historic deal”??? He had one awesome year where he had over 2000 yards. The problem I find is that ho 2010 stats and his 2008 stats are pretty much the same. He doesn’t have any huge gains in any certain section. I think this guy is a decent RB, but not one that deserves like 100 million.

    ———————————————
    No virusgvr. Chris Johnson had one historic year when he rushed for over 2000 yards and two great years.

    In the glorious history of the NFL the number of 2000 yards rushers include: OJ Simpson, Barry Sanders, Terrel Davis, Jamal Lewis, and Chris Johnson. That’s it. You act like 2000 yards is something that any good or great back can roll out of bed and get.

    His first year in the league Johnson rushed for 1229 yards and 9 TD to go with 4.9 yd per carry while spliting carries with another back. His second year was the historic 2000 yard year and last year he rushed for 1364 yards with 11 touchdowns. Even without the historic year his other two seasons are great seasons especially with defenses trying to stop the run first since the passing game wasn’t much of a threat.

    For his 3 year career Johnson has 4598 rushing yards, 34 rushing tds, and 5.0 yd/carry average.

    There’s another player in the league who after 3 years put up the following numbers 4484 yds rushing, 40 rushing tds, and 4.9yds/carry. Pretty similar to Johnson’s first 3 years. Do you know who this player is? Adrian Peterson who is considered one of the best back in the league.

    On top of that he is as durable as any back in the league playing in 47 of 48 regular season games. He is easily is one of the best back in the country not merely “a decent back”.

  34. prmpft says: Jun 18, 2011 7:40 PM

    …did I ever mention I HATE that guy?

  35. 6thsense79 says: Jun 18, 2011 8:09 PM

    For all does that seem to think Johnson is merely a good back below are stats of some of the greatest backs to play the game and Johnson ranks favorably amongst those backs. He deserves his deal. At the very least I try to make my case with stats and comparison and not just emotion and comments I pull out my arse.

    So how does Chris Johnson’s first 3 years compare to some of the greatest backs to ever play and some of the best backs in the league today?

    Here are Johnson’s stats
    4598 rushing yards, 34 rushing tds, and 5.0 yd/carry average

    Now for some of the great

    Barry Sanders first 3 years in the league:
    4322 rush yds, 43 td, 4.92 yds/attempt

    Adrian Peterson first 3 years:
    4484 yds rushing, 40 td, 4.9 yds/carry

    Ladanian Tomlinson
    4564 yds rushing, 37 td, 4.45 yds/carry

    Erik Dickerson
    5147 yds rushing 44td 4.8yds/carry

    Emmit Smith
    4213yds rushing 41td 4.3yds/carry

  36. justanotherdummy says: Jun 19, 2011 1:05 AM

    6th sense, he has good stats. So what? How many playoff games have the Titans won with him? Running backs are not a money position. Sucks to be him.

  37. clintonrb says: Jun 19, 2011 2:47 AM

    how much does he make now compared to other backs current and recent salaries?
    5 yr(s) / $12,000,000-c johnson

    4 yr(s) / $2,805,000-ray rice
    6 yr(s) / $32,970,000-j charles
    6 yr(s) / $40,500,000-a peterson
    6 yr(s) / $60,000,000- d mcfadden
    6 yr(s) / $52,500,000-r bush
    1 yr(s) / $7,281,300 -d sproles
    4 yr(s) / $12,500,000-c taylor
    6 yr(s) / $44,805,000-s jackson
    5 yr(s) / $34,000,000-r brown
    2 yr(s) / $7,750,000 -r williams
    2 yr(s) / $7,000,000 -c benson
    7 yr(s) / $45,000,000-m barber

  38. clintonrb says: Jun 19, 2011 2:58 AM

    4 yr(s) / $3,470,000-l mccoy
    2 yr(s) / $5,200,000-l tomlinson
    4 yr(s) / $3,100,000-j mcknight
    4 yr(s) / $2,655,000-s greene
    5 yr /$9,855,000 -r mendenhall
    3 yr /$1,185,000 -a foster
    5 yr /$16,700,000-k moreno
    5 yr /$11,650,000 -j addai
    3 yr /$17,900,000 -k smith
    4 yr /$1,755,000 -p hillis
    5 yr /$25,000,000-cj spiller
    6 yr /$34,500,000 -m turner

  39. clintonrb says: Jun 19, 2011 3:17 AM

    5 yr/$9,000,000 -b wells
    5 yr/$14,500,000 -dea williams
    4 yr/$3,781,000 -m forte
    4 yr/$20,000,000-r grant
    4 yr/$7,000,000 -sam morris
    4 yr/$28,012,000 -f g0re
    6 yr/$18,935,000-m lynch
    1 yr/ $405,000 -l blount
    3 yr/$1,430,000 -r torain
    5 yr/$25,650,000 -r matthews
    4 yr/$2,165,000 -m bush
    4 yr/$1,700,000 -a bradshaw
    3 yr/$1,150,000 -b green ellis
    4 yr/$17,000,000 -d ward
    5 yr/$9,800,000 -j best

  40. clintonrb says: Jun 19, 2011 4:09 AM

    after all that the only thing that is evident is that
    d sproles,d ward ,m lynch,k smith and m barber are blatantly stealing from the nfl

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