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	<title>Comments on: The rookie wage scale issue continues to loom</title>
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		<title>By: tommyf15</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommyf15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s actually the owners that didn&#039;t want a rookie wage scale in 2006, when the last CBA was signed. 

The NFLPA put forward a proposal where total rookie payouts would be cut by around 50%. In return, every drafted player would have the option of becoming an unrestricted free agency after three years.

The owners said no, we&#039;re happier with things the way they are now.

I actually thought it was a good proposal by the NFLPA. Let the players prove themselves first and if they do, let them hit the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually the owners that didn&#8217;t want a rookie wage scale in 2006, when the last CBA was signed. </p>
<p>The NFLPA put forward a proposal where total rookie payouts would be cut by around 50%. In return, every drafted player would have the option of becoming an unrestricted free agency after three years.</p>
<p>The owners said no, we&#8217;re happier with things the way they are now.</p>
<p>I actually thought it was a good proposal by the NFLPA. Let the players prove themselves first and if they do, let them hit the market.</p>
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		<title>By: nmeagle33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nmeagle33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see avg. joe starting at top $S, AS a matter of fact, most all, all  are on a trail period.

The CBA should be tied to the economy. As my SS which has not seen a raise in 2 years.

Seems to me these people-players, owners &amp; agents-live in a bubble and seem not aware of the suffering going on. True, many come from disavandaged life styles which appear to be forgotten while the big $s are available.

In my opinion the CBA should be a reflection of the economy and be fluid. New players aren&#039;t worth what they are paid. Players/owners/agents need to be aware of the ups &amp; downs of society and be reflective of that for each current year and not based on a progressive scale.

Changes need to be made; can&#039;t with the old style. I would like to see that the NFL be a projection of the American life style and not a shelter for pampered people. The NFL is headed for a big down turn if all parties continue with the old worn out thoughts and patterns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see avg. joe starting at top $S, AS a matter of fact, most all, all  are on a trail period.</p>
<p>The CBA should be tied to the economy. As my SS which has not seen a raise in 2 years.</p>
<p>Seems to me these people-players, owners &amp; agents-live in a bubble and seem not aware of the suffering going on. True, many come from disavandaged life styles which appear to be forgotten while the big $s are available.</p>
<p>In my opinion the CBA should be a reflection of the economy and be fluid. New players aren&#8217;t worth what they are paid. Players/owners/agents need to be aware of the ups &amp; downs of society and be reflective of that for each current year and not based on a progressive scale.</p>
<p>Changes need to be made; can&#8217;t with the old style. I would like to see that the NFL be a projection of the American life style and not a shelter for pampered people. The NFL is headed for a big down turn if all parties continue with the old worn out thoughts and patterns.</p>
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		<title>By: fringetastic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fringetastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Condon&#039;s statement also ignores the difference in talent levels from year to year.  Could be that one year&#039;s first pick would have only gone fourth in another year, which is a big money difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condon&#8217;s statement also ignores the difference in talent levels from year to year.  Could be that one year&#8217;s first pick would have only gone fourth in another year, which is a big money difference.</p>
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		<title>By: chris6523</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris6523]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Condon&#039;s suggestion that &quot;your not supposed to miss on the high picks&quot; is ridiculous.  Even the great GMs miss from time to time.  A certain number of busts are guaranteed for every team.  Ron Wolf was a great GM, but if his success were dependent on his first round picks, and specifically his earliest first round pick (Terrell Buckley), he would have failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condon&#8217;s suggestion that &#8220;your not supposed to miss on the high picks&#8221; is ridiculous.  Even the great GMs miss from time to time.  A certain number of busts are guaranteed for every team.  Ron Wolf was a great GM, but if his success were dependent on his first round picks, and specifically his earliest first round pick (Terrell Buckley), he would have failed.</p>
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		<title>By: djrando7</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djrando7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the majority of the comments on here.  I think that the over payment of rookies makes it hard for the rest of the team.  The fact that the fact that the contracts for these rookies are made so public, the vets have to see what they are making, and it has to get them bitter.  This rookie who has done absolutely NOTHING in the NFL is getting paid way more than 90% of the NFL.

I absolutely think that Suh is one of the best DT&#039;s to come out of college in a long time, but the way he is so SUH this, and TEAM SUH is a little over the top for a rookie.  Sam Bradford went before him, looks to have a great NFL career, and you never hear a peep from him.  I think the rookies coming in should be much more humble to the rest of the team (i.e. Bradfrod) and prove themselves for a couple of years until they go around town thinking they are the best thing since air conditioning. (BTW, I am not a fan of any NFC team, so I am not trying to be bias.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the majority of the comments on here.  I think that the over payment of rookies makes it hard for the rest of the team.  The fact that the fact that the contracts for these rookies are made so public, the vets have to see what they are making, and it has to get them bitter.  This rookie who has done absolutely NOTHING in the NFL is getting paid way more than 90% of the NFL.</p>
<p>I absolutely think that Suh is one of the best DT&#8217;s to come out of college in a long time, but the way he is so SUH this, and TEAM SUH is a little over the top for a rookie.  Sam Bradford went before him, looks to have a great NFL career, and you never hear a peep from him.  I think the rookies coming in should be much more humble to the rest of the team (i.e. Bradfrod) and prove themselves for a couple of years until they go around town thinking they are the best thing since air conditioning. (BTW, I am not a fan of any NFC team, so I am not trying to be bias.)</p>
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		<title>By: jc1958cool</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jc1958cool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what if the rookie is better than the veteran?
draft picks are gambles, so put up or shut up owners!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if the rookie is better than the veteran?<br />
draft picks are gambles, so put up or shut up owners!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: peanutbutter&#38;jelly</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peanutbutter&#38;jelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[giving rookies some guarenteed money is o.k. because of the nature of the profession but to give huge amounts of money to an unproven player is just plain stupid and it&#039;s an issue that we should not even be talking about because it should have been resolved years ago.what ever happened to earning what you get?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giving rookies some guarenteed money is o.k. because of the nature of the profession but to give huge amounts of money to an unproven player is just plain stupid and it&#8217;s an issue that we should not even be talking about because it should have been resolved years ago.what ever happened to earning what you get?</p>
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		<title>By: FinFan68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FinFan68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A rookie pay-scale seems like a no-brainer. The top guys are stellar college players but are unproven NFL level players. A graduated scale based solely on draft position seems faulty to me. The difference in the top 5 players is not very big at all most years. The reason a guy goes #1 overall is mostly due to team need rather than the kid is the obvious best player. If the Rams would have had the worst record, does anybody think Cam Newton would have gone #1? Why reward a player for something as simple as playing the position that the worst team in the league needs most? I think they should do it in levels instead of picks. By round may be a little too broad to be fair to the truly elite players so why not group the rookies into pay echelons based on 1/2 round increments? 1-16 as the top, 16-32 in the next etc. Put hard limits on base salary and actually address the &quot;creative financing&quot; some owners use to gain advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rookie pay-scale seems like a no-brainer. The top guys are stellar college players but are unproven NFL level players. A graduated scale based solely on draft position seems faulty to me. The difference in the top 5 players is not very big at all most years. The reason a guy goes #1 overall is mostly due to team need rather than the kid is the obvious best player. If the Rams would have had the worst record, does anybody think Cam Newton would have gone #1? Why reward a player for something as simple as playing the position that the worst team in the league needs most? I think they should do it in levels instead of picks. By round may be a little too broad to be fair to the truly elite players so why not group the rookies into pay echelons based on 1/2 round increments? 1-16 as the top, 16-32 in the next etc. Put hard limits on base salary and actually address the &#8220;creative financing&#8221; some owners use to gain advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: hwentworth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hwentworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All rookies should get league minimum.  

Teams should have the option to pay rookies a signing bonus, capped at twice the league minimum, but it will only vest after two years accrued playing time.  That will keep their focus and make them work hard to get their pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All rookies should get league minimum.  </p>
<p>Teams should have the option to pay rookies a signing bonus, capped at twice the league minimum, but it will only vest after two years accrued playing time.  That will keep their focus and make them work hard to get their pay.</p>
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		<title>By: gdeli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gdeli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They gotta start paying them less in the beginning. They gotta earn it.  too much resentment from all star vets and vets in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They gotta start paying them less in the beginning. They gotta earn it.  too much resentment from all star vets and vets in general.</p>
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		<title>By: blackheld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blackheld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of you are forgetting one thing.

Agents never GET that big second contract for high draft picks that are busts.  Thus, if the new CBA limits rookie contracts, the agents lose, because the rookies who don&#039;t earn that big second contract can&#039;t help make their agents richer, which makes it more important to score big on their first (and only) contract, every time.

I&#039;m not real sure what the success percentage for first round draft choices is, but I&#039;m gonna bet that it&#039;s no more than 50%, as far as the player becoming a desirable free agent, and cashing in,  when he finishes his rookie agreement.  So agents who look at the numbers certainly realize it&#039;s going to cost them heavily, if the rookie contracts are capped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you are forgetting one thing.</p>
<p>Agents never GET that big second contract for high draft picks that are busts.  Thus, if the new CBA limits rookie contracts, the agents lose, because the rookies who don&#8217;t earn that big second contract can&#8217;t help make their agents richer, which makes it more important to score big on their first (and only) contract, every time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not real sure what the success percentage for first round draft choices is, but I&#8217;m gonna bet that it&#8217;s no more than 50%, as far as the player becoming a desirable free agent, and cashing in,  when he finishes his rookie agreement.  So agents who look at the numbers certainly realize it&#8217;s going to cost them heavily, if the rookie contracts are capped.</p>
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		<title>By: kellyb9</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kellyb9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have a rookie pay scale and let a player go to arbitration if its turns out they are worth more than their contract. Problem solved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a rookie pay scale and let a player go to arbitration if its turns out they are worth more than their contract. Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: arcaero</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcaero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF team salary caps continue to expand as reported, won&#039;t the agents make their money on the veterans instead of the rookies? 

Their (the agents) income will be deferred until the stars actually produce, that&#039;s all.  Adapt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF team salary caps continue to expand as reported, won&#8217;t the agents make their money on the veterans instead of the rookies? </p>
<p>Their (the agents) income will be deferred until the stars actually produce, that&#8217;s all.  Adapt.</p>
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		<title>By: blspears</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blspears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For most players a wage scale will cap the only contract they ever get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For most players a wage scale will cap the only contract they ever get.</p>
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		<title>By: blspears</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blspears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Players are kind of stupid, we need a rookie wage scale!!!! The average player plays 3 years free agency starts either in year 4 or 6.  They are costing themselves money and guarentee&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players are kind of stupid, we need a rookie wage scale!!!! The average player plays 3 years free agency starts either in year 4 or 6.  They are costing themselves money and guarentee&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: dryzzt23</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dryzzt23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One aspect of the CBA that has not been discussed is what recourse, if any, teams will have if/when a player is suspended for drug use.

Right now, if a player DECIDES, of his own volition, to do drugs, he risks getting suspended for at least 4 games without pay. 

The team meanwhile, loses a player who could help them, thus the team could lose games, and thus millions of dollars, solely b/c some idiot player wanted to smoke a doobie. Right now, the team cannot go after the player legally and recoup signing bonus money. 

When Vick was busted, the Falcons were allowed to recoup a very small portion of the $20+ million in bonuses that Vick received. In other cases, the player has been able to keep their bonus money.

IMO that is bulls**t. The new CBA should include language that states that if a player decides to do drugs, they will be subject to suspension per the NFL drug policy, AND they will lose 1 year toward becoming a free agent, AND they will have to refund 50% of the signing bonus that they received. The penalties should be even worse for repeat offenders.

As it stands now, the media is firmly backing the players yet it is the teams who have 100% of the legal liability and suffer the consequences of the actions of idiot players. 

When do teams/owners get a &quot;second chance&quot; like the players ALWAYS do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One aspect of the CBA that has not been discussed is what recourse, if any, teams will have if/when a player is suspended for drug use.</p>
<p>Right now, if a player DECIDES, of his own volition, to do drugs, he risks getting suspended for at least 4 games without pay. </p>
<p>The team meanwhile, loses a player who could help them, thus the team could lose games, and thus millions of dollars, solely b/c some idiot player wanted to smoke a doobie. Right now, the team cannot go after the player legally and recoup signing bonus money. </p>
<p>When Vick was busted, the Falcons were allowed to recoup a very small portion of the $20+ million in bonuses that Vick received. In other cases, the player has been able to keep their bonus money.</p>
<p>IMO that is bulls**t. The new CBA should include language that states that if a player decides to do drugs, they will be subject to suspension per the NFL drug policy, AND they will lose 1 year toward becoming a free agent, AND they will have to refund 50% of the signing bonus that they received. The penalties should be even worse for repeat offenders.</p>
<p>As it stands now, the media is firmly backing the players yet it is the teams who have 100% of the legal liability and suffer the consequences of the actions of idiot players. </p>
<p>When do teams/owners get a &#8220;second chance&#8221; like the players ALWAYS do?</p>
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		<title>By: klunge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[klunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally I don&#039;t think veterans care how much a rookie makes, as long as they make the same or more. Those huge salaries factor into negotiations and franchise tag pricing, allowing guys like Matt Cassel to end up with $10M/yr deals. Players just want a massive raise in cap &amp; cap floor so they can all get more of the pie and not worry if the rookies get a nice slice either. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not agreeing with Condon, this stuff is out of control &amp; there has to be a wage scale.

I think it should be a base pay based on draft position plus positional value (QB, WR, OL, etc) and then additional performance incentives. That way they get a nod for their draft spot and potential impact of the postion they play, and can get more if they work hard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally I don&#8217;t think veterans care how much a rookie makes, as long as they make the same or more. Those huge salaries factor into negotiations and franchise tag pricing, allowing guys like Matt Cassel to end up with $10M/yr deals. Players just want a massive raise in cap &amp; cap floor so they can all get more of the pie and not worry if the rookies get a nice slice either. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not agreeing with Condon, this stuff is out of control &amp; there has to be a wage scale.</p>
<p>I think it should be a base pay based on draft position plus positional value (QB, WR, OL, etc) and then additional performance incentives. That way they get a nod for their draft spot and potential impact of the postion they play, and can get more if they work hard.</p>
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		<title>By: bradentonbuc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bradentonbuc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he root of the problem?  Agents were/are  lawyers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he root of the problem?  Agents were/are  lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: winskins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want a POS Salary Cap that allows owners to take back money from people who take that big payday and then lay down on the field for a nap.  Call it the Haynesworth Rule.  In the real world you can sue a party who fails to deliver their end of a contract.  Apparently that doesn&#039;t apply in the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a POS Salary Cap that allows owners to take back money from people who take that big payday and then lay down on the field for a nap.  Call it the Haynesworth Rule.  In the real world you can sue a party who fails to deliver their end of a contract.  Apparently that doesn&#8217;t apply in the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: evrybdyhas1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101141</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The draft promotes competitive balance and is an evaluation of potential contribution of a player. A wage scale makes sense and allows a player to pursue a FA contract based upon performance rather then potential after X number of years. 

A limited number of veteran exemptions after X number of years may allow teams to reward players for leadership contributions that can impact young players and make the  overall team better and shift dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The draft promotes competitive balance and is an evaluation of potential contribution of a player. A wage scale makes sense and allows a player to pursue a FA contract based upon performance rather then potential after X number of years. </p>
<p>A limited number of veteran exemptions after X number of years may allow teams to reward players for leadership contributions that can impact young players and make the  overall team better and shift dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: twitter:Chapman_Jamie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if nine owners don’t band together and knock the talks of track on Tuesday and/or Wednesday&quot;

It&#039;s almost over and you still have to take shots at the owners. What if the players knock them off track? That IS a possibility you know. This whole thing has proven how biased the media really is.

That said, no player deserves the amount of money these draft picks get without proving worth it. There should be a rookie scale to motivate young guys to have one or two solid years in order to earn the higher salaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if nine owners don’t band together and knock the talks of track on Tuesday and/or Wednesday&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost over and you still have to take shots at the owners. What if the players knock them off track? That IS a possibility you know. This whole thing has proven how biased the media really is.</p>
<p>That said, no player deserves the amount of money these draft picks get without proving worth it. There should be a rookie scale to motivate young guys to have one or two solid years in order to earn the higher salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: billinlouisiana</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[moneymike23 says:Jun 20, 2011 1:50 AM 

Why haven’t the owners done to the rookies what they are doing to the players right now. They’re fighting for a CBA and lockout the players when business is through the roof but do nothing to stop rookies getting these ridiculous contracts which could destroy there teams. This should be their first priority.

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Thats exactly what D. Smith wanted the owners to do. I have heard him in interviews state that the rookie wages are a creation of the owners so it is up to them to do something about it on their own. In a sense he was daring the owners to lower the offers to rookies so that he could immediately file a collusion lawsuit in Doty&#039;s court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moneymike23 says:Jun 20, 2011 1:50 AM </p>
<p>Why haven’t the owners done to the rookies what they are doing to the players right now. They’re fighting for a CBA and lockout the players when business is through the roof but do nothing to stop rookies getting these ridiculous contracts which could destroy there teams. This should be their first priority.</p>
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<p>Thats exactly what D. Smith wanted the owners to do. I have heard him in interviews state that the rookie wages are a creation of the owners so it is up to them to do something about it on their own. In a sense he was daring the owners to lower the offers to rookies so that he could immediately file a collusion lawsuit in Doty&#8217;s court.</p>
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		<title>By: reidstinks</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/19/the-rookie-wage-scale-issue-continues-to-loom/#comment-1101137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reidstinks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So let me get this straight, the agents are in the middle of this negotiation but the fans still don&#039;t have a seat at the table?  Yeah, they really do care about us!

This issue will determine wether I go back to the NFL.  Not saying I definitely wont watch again with no rookie cap but I will certainly think twice abbot buying tickets.  I don&#039;t mind spending $100 to watch a game when the money is paying guys that EARNED it.  But when it goes to some loud mouth agent and 20 year old that has never done anything but think he&#039;s a HOF already, not sure I can spend my money that way any longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight, the agents are in the middle of this negotiation but the fans still don&#8217;t have a seat at the table?  Yeah, they really do care about us!</p>
<p>This issue will determine wether I go back to the NFL.  Not saying I definitely wont watch again with no rookie cap but I will certainly think twice abbot buying tickets.  I don&#8217;t mind spending $100 to watch a game when the money is paying guys that EARNED it.  But when it goes to some loud mouth agent and 20 year old that has never done anything but think he&#8217;s a HOF already, not sure I can spend my money that way any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: jerrydesaulniers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a fan the issue of getting a rookie wage scale and better steroid testing are important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fan the issue of getting a rookie wage scale and better steroid testing are important.</p>
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		<title>By: dasboat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dasboat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once the salary cap is set, the rookie wage scale won&#039;t impact agents at all.  If the same $$$ are shifted to veterans, then agents will still get their same cut of the same pie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the salary cap is set, the rookie wage scale won&#8217;t impact agents at all.  If the same $$$ are shifted to veterans, then agents will still get their same cut of the same pie.</p>
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		<title>By: noozehound</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[noozehound]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only people not having a rookie wage scale benefits is the agents. The veterans are against it, the fans are against it. I can&#039;t stand basketball, but the one thing they have right is a set rookie wage scale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only people not having a rookie wage scale benefits is the agents. The veterans are against it, the fans are against it. I can&#8217;t stand basketball, but the one thing they have right is a set rookie wage scale.</p>
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		<title>By: marty2019</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marty2019]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they don&#039;t want 9 small market owners to band together to derail the deal, they will institute a rookie wage scale.   The cost of high first round draft picks is financially crippling to small market teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they don&#8217;t want 9 small market owners to band together to derail the deal, they will institute a rookie wage scale.   The cost of high first round draft picks is financially crippling to small market teams.</p>
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		<title>By: krow101</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The agents have money, and they use it to buy influence.  In the past Upshaw received huge bribes to kill any sort of rookie wage scale.  I suspect the same thing is happening here.  The handful of top agents are throwing money at the union hierarchy, who in the end will do their bidding instead of the players.

It&#039;s a lot like our Congress and Senate.  Wealth buys the representatives who then agree to sell out their constituency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The agents have money, and they use it to buy influence.  In the past Upshaw received huge bribes to kill any sort of rookie wage scale.  I suspect the same thing is happening here.  The handful of top agents are throwing money at the union hierarchy, who in the end will do their bidding instead of the players.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot like our Congress and Senate.  Wealth buys the representatives who then agree to sell out their constituency.</p>
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		<title>By: slemmebo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slemmebo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why every Rookie Contract isen´t 3 years with 5 mill. a year guaranteed to the first pick decreasing to 30k for the last pick. After 3 years the rookie is either a proven commodity who will receive a big contract or leave for another team.

The agents will just get paid later

The player have to prove himself

The owners don&#039;t overspent on bad players]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why every Rookie Contract isen´t 3 years with 5 mill. a year guaranteed to the first pick decreasing to 30k for the last pick. After 3 years the rookie is either a proven commodity who will receive a big contract or leave for another team.</p>
<p>The agents will just get paid later</p>
<p>The player have to prove himself</p>
<p>The owners don&#8217;t overspent on bad players</p>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonofsamiam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You managed to compose that entire article without mentioning JaMarcus Russell. I would have list a pretty penny on that wager.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You managed to compose that entire article without mentioning JaMarcus Russell. I would have list a pretty penny on that wager.</p>
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