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The Pats have their moment in the “worst moments” spotlight

PFT Live* is back, and we’re continuing to look at the worst moments for each NFL team since the last work stoppage.

Today, we return with a bang, looking at the lowlights of the New England Patriots.

The timing was fortuitous, given that the man who helped deliver one of the Pats’ worst moments is now willing to trade it all in.

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  1. randysavage4ever says: Jun 20, 2011 3:45 PM

    the fluke hit on Brady week of the Chiefs…

    I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT GAME ON SUNDAY TICKET & THINKING… in the 1st quarter I said to myself, “Herms got a dirty squad”, I think in the 3rd is when it happened, and all I hear is Dan Dierdorff saying, “Terrific Tom is Down” all serious & dramatic, when I saw Brady hop off the field with the trainers on 1 leg, I began to think you can never take for granted anything in life. Nothing is promised. Brady went down & so did the greatest team of all time from the year before…

  2. ampats says: Jun 20, 2011 3:52 PM

    1) John Tomase’s BS article Super Bowl Sunday
    2) Super Bowl loss to Giants ending their quest for the perfect season.
    3) 2006 AFCC loss to Colts
    4)2010 playoff loss to Jets
    5)1976 Ben Dreith phantom call
    6) Rod Rust season
    7) Sam Jankovich

    As far as I am concerned, the accusation of spygate propelled the New England Patriots to the second best record in NFL history. Every week as a fan it was alot of fun watching TB lighting teams up and blowing teams out, until SB Sunday. The Giants played a great game and gave their fans a thrill similar to what we Bruins fans experienced.

    There are many more to list but as a longtime Pats fan that is why this past decade has been rewarding . Playoffs every season since 2001 except 2002 and 2008 (Brady injury) 4SB’s 3 Lombardis. More to come!

  3. j0esixpack says: Jun 20, 2011 3:54 PM

    I know there were many more than 4 choices here – it’s just interesting that the Patriots worst moments were all when they were on the cusp of adding up to three more Super Bowl Rings to their collection of 3

    Sure it hurts to miss out on 19-0 (and by the way, give the Giants credit for a well executed gameplan) – but at least the Patriots (unlike the Colts) had the balls to make a run at football immortality

    Other team fans may chortle about coming close to perfection and missing – but usually those are the fans from towns that haven’t caught a whiff of a championships for getting close to a half century

    I’ll take a worst moment of 18-1 over a season of 0-16 anytime.

  4. kindbass says: Jun 20, 2011 4:05 PM

    Definitely the worst of my lifetime was the Super Bowl vs the Giants. That one will haunt me forever as a fan. So close to eternal bragging rights. I mean, 3 out of 4 SBs is still pretty sweet, but 19-0 would’ve ended every argument for the rest of my life.

  5. Davo says: Jun 20, 2011 4:20 PM

    As a Pats fan:

    I’d take #2 to #4, put Brady’s knee at #3, AFCC loss at #2, and yeah, #1 is the SB loss.

  6. murraysons says: Jun 20, 2011 4:23 PM

    Stingley…

  7. skleech22 says: Jun 20, 2011 4:23 PM

    Victor Kiam is wishing he invented cameras instead of razors. He could have helped the likes of Hugh Millen,Hart lee Dykes, and all the Patriot busts plus legendary Patriot coach Rod Rust win more than one game in 1990! I forgot this is when all of you so called Patriot fans didn’t go to their games!! Now they are the best thing since clam chawwder!! PATS HAVE DONE NOTHING SINCE GETTING BUSTED!!!

  8. rc33 says: Jun 20, 2011 4:51 PM

    Pats drafted a dead guy back in mid-sixties.

    Dude went out hunting the day of the draft.
    Family waited for his return to break the good news.
    He never returned (hunting accident).

    And skleech needs new material.
    Tiresome.

  9. bwisnasky says: Jun 20, 2011 4:54 PM

    You mean going 1-15 in 1990 and 2-14 in 1992 didn’t make the list? Seems people forget the Patsies weren’t always world beaters….

  10. gregjennings85 says: Jun 20, 2011 5:14 PM

    1.) Getting busted for cheating, and more specifically, for taping the practices, play calling terminology and walk-thrus of future opponents prior to games, thereby adhering an ASTERIX next to all 3 of their of their Super Bowl wins* during Bill Bellichek’s tenure as coach of the Patriots.

    2.) Losing to the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII.

    3.) Losing to the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXI.

    4.) Losing to the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XX.

  11. androk23 says: Jun 20, 2011 5:16 PM

    randysavage4ever says: Jun 20, 2011 3:45 PM

    the fluke hit on Brady week of the Chiefs…

    I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT GAME ON SUNDAY TICKET & THINKING… in the 1st quarter I said to myself, “Herms got a dirty squad”, I think in the 3rd is when it happened
    ——-

    I thought it was the 3rd play, not 3rd quarter. I remember thinking all off-season that Brady was gonna get creamed, after the way the Pats ran up the score in ’07…and finding it ironic it only took 3 plays into the season.

    Also, I’d have to say the worst moment was the interview with Junior Seau before the 07 SB, with that dumb hat he was wearing.

  12. beastofeden says: Jun 20, 2011 5:38 PM

    *18-1

    Ray Rice going house on the first play of the game IN Foxboro during the playoffs.

  13. mrconnors says: Jun 20, 2011 5:45 PM

    GregJennings seems to be really butthurt over the Patriots for some reason.

    Hey moron, there was no Rams walkthrough tape. And the team was caught taping defensive signals, which would help their offense (with me so far, idiot?).

    So explain to me the big advantage gained when the Patriots scored 3 offensive touchdowns in 3 games during their 2001 playoff run. That’s it. 3 touchdowns. Drew Bledsoe steps in for Brady in the Steelers game, goes 10-21, 100 yards, 1 touchdown. Monster game.

    Outstanding game for Brady in the SB. 140 yards passing. Clearly knowing every play helped him put up that epic performance.

  14. rc33 says: Jun 20, 2011 6:05 PM

    gregjennings has been uttering the same brain-dead anti-Patriots’ stuff forever on this board.
    His posts are laughable; virtually identical rants…word for word…each and every time the opportunity arises.
    I’d like to encourage him to continue losing sleep over a 5 year-old story that ever other football fan has moved on with.
    Ideally, five years from now, he’ll still be losing sleep over it.

  15. nyjalleffingday says: Jun 20, 2011 6:10 PM

    But…but…I thought the Patriots had no bad moments!?!

  16. j0esixpack says: Jun 20, 2011 6:20 PM

    kindbass says:19-0 would’ve ended every argument for the rest of my life.

    I agree – now we have to explain to the haters how a QB throwing 50 TDs and going 18-1 isn’t exactly the “proof” that the team can’t win without “cheating” that they seem to think it is.

  17. skleech22 says: Jun 20, 2011 7:18 PM

    1. Snowplow game in 1982 vs. Dolphins
    2.Stealing offensive signals in 1997 playoff game vs. Dolphins
    3. Tuck Rule! Tuck Rule! F%&* Rule!!! Big time ASTERISK by that Super Bowl!
    4. Patriots fans can thank Kraft’s buddy Roger Goodell for destroying all the tapes which included the Rams Super Bowl walk through!
    5. All you Chowder heads keep cheering on all your TAINTED CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! Because everybody in the NFL community view you guys as the ULTIMATE CHEATERS!!! GO PATS!!!!

  18. threegriffons says: Jun 20, 2011 7:53 PM

    I think this was posted by an eagles fan who did some homework, on another article, either way i feel it should be re posted for:
    skleech22 & gregjennings

    If you look up all time records the patriots have the 9th best regular season and post season win percentage compared to the eagles who are 18th (although very off topic). The patriots are also 5th in post season win percentage. For all the spygate people if you look up the rule, taping is/was allowed. A memo clarify what was not allowed was sent on Sept 6th 2007 (after all the super bowl wins). Multiple coaches have said they taped and it was a common practice. Also since then the patriots have won their division all but one year (Tom Brady was out), gone to a super bowl, and have one of if not the best win percentages.

  19. nepatriots128154 says: Jun 20, 2011 8:49 PM

    I hate 18-1 so much that whenever I see a comment with 18 thumbs up and 1 thumbs down I quickly press a thumb so those goddamn numbers change.

  20. 1historian says: Jun 20, 2011 9:05 PM

    Dierdorff said “Brady is down! Brady is down!” a number of times. It was all he needed to say.

    The Pats got caught stealing the Jets’ defensive signals in the 1st half of the 1st game. They were told to stop. They did. It would follow that the league would keep an extra sharp eye on them for the rest of the season. no more complaints. I find it interesting that the guy who made the complaint about them was a former assistant for Bill Belichik.

    Immediately stories pop up about their stealing signals as far back as the 2001 season. Any proof, ever? No. I guess the Pats are about 7 years smarter than the rest of the league.

    I used to be a big Pats fans but since I saw a picture of Brady’s wife modeling a bikini with pictures of Che Guavera on it I got over it. Not my kind of thing. Go Pack!

    Teams have been stealing others’ signals since before the invention of dirt – there’s really nothing wrong with it.

  21. 1historian says: Jun 20, 2011 9:12 PM

    Interesting note – the Boston pro sports team that has gone the longest without a championship is now the Patriots.
    Over the last decade there have been 7 championships won by Boston teams.
    Not too shabby – hear that New York fans?

  22. nepatriots128154 says: Jun 20, 2011 9:28 PM

    @1historian

    If you change what team you root for that easily then you aren’t a very good fan.

  23. bradymancrush10 says: Jun 20, 2011 10:32 PM

    @skleech22

    you need to either:
    A) get a girlfriend…a real girl, not imaginary.
    B) get mommies permission to use the computer,…OK?

  24. majmalphunktion says: Jun 20, 2011 11:08 PM

    The Pats got caught stealing the Jets’ defensive signals in the 1st half of the 1st game. They were told to stop. They did. It would follow that the league would keep an extra sharp eye on them for the rest of the season. no more complaints. I find it interesting that the guy who made the complaint about them was a former assistant for Bill Belichik.
    ———————————————————–
    And who was taping the Pats in the Pats v Jets playoff game the year before? Yep, the Jets. But that little tidbit gets left out.

    Sports media-especially the 4 letter network-lazy and sensational instead of facts.

    My spygate rant:
    This will be fruitless but, here it goes.

    In a 2006 playoff game, Patriots’ security prevented a Jets camera crew from filming. The crew was there in addition to the cameramen already recording game film from end zone and sideline angles. New England security didn’t confiscate the footage and turn it over to the NFL.(last time that happens!)
    At a press conference, Mangini said the extra camera was there because he wanted game footage from both end zones.(Cheater!!)

    The next meeting (2007), Mangini sells out the Pats.

    Cheaters of the Past:
    Tom Landry—a Giants assistant —tuned into the Browns’ radio frequency, allowing him to call the right defensive plays. Loss of a first round draft pick? 500k fine? Nope, they banned QB Radio helmets. Tom Landry CHEATS? No, this became a ‘Ha Ha put one up on the Browns’ stories.

    Jimmy Johnson said teams could tape signals from the press box, but sometimes the press box was on the wrong side of the field. In that case, the cameraman filmed from the sidelines.
    No worries it is the Cowboys, so It’s cool. Tx football is far better place for a Dynasty than those grumpy New Englanders..what do they know about football up there?

    The Infamous memo misquotes the rules “Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.”

    There is actually nothing in the rule book against stealing signals. Why? Because every staff has done it since the dawn of time. It is part of the game. Halas was known for subterfuge that bordered on criminal–or so the stories go.

    The rule states this:”No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.”
    Yep guilty..but then the punishment? If the team does better –supposedly without ‘cheating’ it gets fined more?
    If the Pats made the playoffs, they lost a first round pick. If they didn’t, they lost second and third rounders. Interestingly, Goodell based his punishment on how well the team did without the camera. The better they did without it, the worse the punishment got.

    So why the issue? Simple really. Parity. It is not pretty but the league prides itself that worst can go to first, that .500 is what half the teams should be. Watch, some other team is going to go on a decade tear, and remember this, when some ‘scandal’ puts a dent in their armor.

  25. j0esixpack says: Jun 20, 2011 11:56 PM

    Do most of the haters REALLY not know that the Tuck Rule remains on the books today, is called about once a week and was confirmed to have been correctly applied in the Raiders game?

    Do most haters REALLY not know that taping and stealing signal calling actually isn’t a violation of the rules, and signal taping continues today (psst… guys, that’s why the coaches cover their mouths!)?

    Do most haters REALLY not know that football spy games were originated by George Halas and Lamar Hunt?

    Or are they just good at deluding themselves that all these things are “cheating”?

  26. childressrulz says: Jun 21, 2011 3:53 AM

    mrconnors says: Jun 20, 2011 5:45 PM

    GregJennings seems to be really butthurt over the Patriots for some reason.

    Hey moron, there was no Rams walkthrough tape. And the team was caught taping defensive signals, which would help their offense (with me so far, idiot?).

    So explain to me the big advantage gained when the Patriots scored 3 offensive touchdowns in 3 games during their 2001 playoff run. That’s it. 3 touchdowns. Drew Bledsoe steps in for Brady in the Steelers game, goes 10-21, 100 yards, 1 touchdown. Monster game.

    Outstanding game for Brady in the SB. 140 yards passing. Clearly knowing every play helped him put up that epic performance.
    _______________________________
    Goodell deemed what the Patriots did to be CHEATING. Like it or not that is the way it is. I would normally not comment on anything AFC related because they suck but could not resist. They were fined for cheating got that “idiot.” Geez get over it and just say yeah my team cheated. Whatever we still got three super bowls and that is what counts. Christ how many years ago was that anyway?

  27. CKL says: Jun 21, 2011 10:22 AM

    majmalphunktion says:
    Jun 20, 2011 11:08 PM

    Yep guilty..but then the punishment? If the team does better –supposedly without ‘cheating’ it gets fined more?
    If the Pats made the playoffs, they lost a first round pick. If they didn’t, they lost second and third rounders. Interestingly, Goodell based his punishment on how well the team did without the camera. The better they did without it, the worse the punishment got.
    ___________________________________
    I never really thought about that. You are right, that’s nuts.

  28. duehicky says: Jun 21, 2011 12:45 PM

    @majmalphunktion

    While most of your rant is correct/ I agree with it there are a few inaccuracies in it. First the memo was a clarification of the rule and thus the memo itself serves as the “rule” the patriots violated. This is where BB defense of misunderstanding came from. Having said that I would like to point out the memo came out on September 6th 2007. This is after the Jet’s taping, but also well after the superbowl wins. Additionally the supposed walk through tape was never produced. Walsh produced 8 tapes non of which showed a walk through.

    It has also been stated by many that the tapes help with analysis of the defense and are used after games. Using the tapes makes it easier to understand what the opponents were trying to call in certain situations, but it was not used in game to “know” play calls. Additionally most good linebackers and qb’s have a general sense of a majority of plays. Watch Tom Brady point out blitzes, Ray Lewis call out run pass or screen, or a receiver settle into the soft spot of the zone.

    The penalty was most likely harsh because RG was knew, a memo had just been released and BB has a history of doing his own thing. The penalty did and does seem excessive and it doesn’t make sense that future success should determine the penalty (the logic might have been based of the trade chart ie a low first = a high 2nd and 3rd).

  29. bwisnasky says: Jun 21, 2011 3:23 PM

    Interesting note – the Boston pro sports team that has gone the longest without a championship is now the Patriots.
    Over the last decade there have been 7 championships won by Boston teams.
    Not too shabby – hear that New York fans?

    ———————————————–

    Yes.. I would have to say one good decade of prosperity makes up for almost 90 YEARS of being losers…. NY is really jealous…. lol

  30. bcgreg says: Jun 22, 2011 8:16 PM

    @ childressrulz

    Goodell actually has NEVER used the term “cheating”. He always said that they were punished for “violating the league’s videotaping policy.”

    Please, don’t lie.

  31. bcgreg says: Jun 22, 2011 8:23 PM

    gregjennings85 says:

    1.) Getting busted for cheating, and more specifically, for taping the practices, play calling terminology and walk-thrus of future opponents prior to games, thereby adhering an ASTERIX next to all 3 of their of their Super Bowl wins* during Bill Bellichek’s tenure as coach of the Patriots.

    2.) Losing to the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII.

    3.) Losing to the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXI.

    4.) Losing to the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XX.
    ———————–

    First, is it really a “worst moment” losing a SB to the best team in the league? NOBODY was beating the Bears in that SB, not even the Dolphins if they made it. GB was the best team in football the year they beat the Pats. There’s no shame in losing to the best team in the league in the SB. So, you don’t know anything about the history of the Pats if you came up with # 3 and 4.

    I agree with # 2. Losing that SB to the Giants was awful.

    As for # 1 on your list, there really is no comment. To spew lies because you dislike a team is simply deplorable.

  32. bcgreg says: Jun 22, 2011 8:37 PM

    @ duehicky

    I think we’re on the same side, but the memo that the league sent out does not quote the rule word for word as written in the NFL Bylaws, therefore changing the rule. As any good attorney knows that if one word in a law is changed, then the law itself changes.

    Since Goodell and his office are not authorized to change any rule (only owners can by vote), then the memo they sent out should have been ignored because the rule written in the memo was NOT an actual league rule.

    @ majmalphunktion

    I’ve seen your post many times, and I agree. Here’s one more thought with regards to the videotaping rule. In the League Bylaws, the LEAGUE defines the “field” as “endline to endline, sideline to sideline” (ie the playing field). Was the camera on the “field” as the LEAGUE defines it? No, it wasn’t.

    Before any hater calls me any names, I want to state that I know that this is semantics and that the intent of the rule was broken, but if it went to court, Belichick would win. Could this be the reason he used as “misinterpreting the rule”? I am only SPECULATING here.

  33. bwisnasky says: Jun 25, 2011 8:46 AM

    Do most of the haters REALLY not know that the Tuck Rule remains on the books today, is called about once a week and was confirmed to have been correctly applied in the Raiders game?

    ———————————————–

    Actually, the NFL grasped at straws to make the argument the rule was properly applied. If you look, there is a picture that clearly shows Brady having 2 hands on the ball before Woodson’s arm came down and knocked the ball out. By definition of the “rule”, once any other part of Brady’s body, including his non throwing hand touched the ball, the “tuck” was over and it should have been a live ball. That said, at that point, in the snow, chicken-sh*t Walt Coleman wasn’t about to make the proper call in Foxboro, and the NFL had to find a rule to pull out of their arse for him to sell to the public. I have seen the “tuck” rule applied properly many times.. this is the just the first example that stood out, and it screwed over the team that gets more bogus calls against them than any other team.

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