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Vick autograph signing brings out the protesters

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Dog lovers still upset over Michael Vick’s past have not yet given up their pursuit to disrupt his public events with protests.

Roughly 50 demonstrators spent their Sunday afternoon chanting at Vick and holding signs as Vick signed autographs and posed for pictures with hundreds of fans that lined up to meet him in Butler, New Jersey.

This exchange, as detailed by Scott Fallon of NorthJersey.com, sums up the scene nicely:

“You ought to be ashamed of yourselves!” one protester yelled at a kid. “Where’s you mother?”

The young fan replied: “She’s right here, wearing an Eagles jersey!”

Butler Sports Card shop co-owner Jeff Robbins was unapologetic about the appearance.

“I’m not bringing him in because he killed dogs,” Robbins said. “I’m bringing in him because he’s the biggest autograph draw out there right now.

“The fact people are pissed off, I 100 percent respect that. If they want to complain they should go to the commissioner of the NFL for letting him back in.”

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  1. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Jun 20, 2011 11:35 AM

    You know I think I might quit my day job of refreshing PFT and just go around the country protesting things. Do these people not have real jobs? Your protesting isn’t going to accomplish anything!!!!

  2. pacificamjr says: Jun 20, 2011 11:36 AM

    Civil war, disease, famine… plenty of stuff to spend your free time trying to fix. protesting MV7? c’mon folks, GET A FREAKIN LIFE!

  3. oldbyrd says: Jun 20, 2011 11:36 AM

    I truly hope that all 50 of those so c alled protesters never need a second chance at anything.

  4. tomwill21 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:37 AM

    “You ought to be ashamed of yourselves!” one protester yelled at a kid. “Where’s you mother?”
    ——————
    Kid: “She’s right next to you, caring more about dogs than spending time with me.”

  5. karlpilkington says: Jun 20, 2011 11:37 AM

    Its just very sad to see that people will not forget about what vick did, but people rarely think about 911 anymore. I am not one of those people.

    I hate Michael Vick, but the guy did his time. Leave him be and put your energy into something that will actually do something besides getting a mention on a blog.

  6. jaycutlerslagunabeach says: Jun 20, 2011 11:38 AM

    a little irony the butler highschool mascot is a bulldog………

  7. marinomanx13 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:38 AM

    I have to say… when thy first signed Vick, I wasn’t totally on board with it.

    And now that he’s come so far in rehabilitating his image (and he’s done it with my/our Eagles team)… I couldn’t be any prouder. Good or him to get his life back on track as best as he’s able.

  8. drewbu22 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:39 AM

    Enough already. Whether you love him or hate him, he’s been back in the league for two years now and isn’t going anywhere until he decides to retire. I was all for putting him behind bars for the crime he committed, but he served his time. Enough is enough with these people.

  9. illyistic1 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:43 AM

    those folks have no life! just let it go he did his time now let the man do his thing. i cant believe grown people go out of there way to make signs and scream at kids!

  10. Justin says: Jun 20, 2011 11:43 AM

    These protestors are not making the kids dislike Vick. They are basically turning off those kids about their cause. I’m sure that one kid will think back and remember that crazy person that yelled at him.

    Leave the fans alone and protest Vick.

  11. jw731 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:44 AM

    Sports Card stores are only relevant, if they have a Jordan rookie or a 51 bowman Mantle card, the rest of the inventory might as well be two ply…Not many Cobb or Ruth cards available……People stupid enough to pay for an autograph should be heckled, not by animal lovers, but by people with common sense…

  12. kellyb9 says: Jun 20, 2011 11:44 AM

    Where’s the outrage for the Donte Stallworth’s of the world who, you know, actually killed a human being? I don’t like Vick because of what he did, I don’t particularly find him to be legitimately remorseful regarding his actions, but he did his time, get over it.

  13. flyinhighwithvick says: Jun 20, 2011 11:47 AM

    People need to get lives, seriously. Yesterday was Father’s Day, go spend the day with your dad instead of standing there with a sign

  14. clintonportisheadd says: Jun 20, 2011 11:47 AM

    “I’m not bringing him in because he killed dogs,” Jeff Robbins said. “I’m bringing in him because he’s the biggest autograph draw out there right now.

    “The fact people are pissed off, I 100 percent respect that. If they want to complain they should go to the commissioner of the NFL for letting him back in.”

    ———————–

    Translation—

    “I know he’s a vile human being and were he not a rich celebrity with great lawyers would still be in a jail cell. But since he is not-and since Eagle fans are myopic front runners-I am going to make me some money on them both.”

    “I understand decent folks are pissed at me for exploiting Vick’s needs for under the table walking around cash (since his creditors are still going after his attachable assets) AND Eagle fan boys who will pay for his signature but what can I say? How about I blame the legal system for letting him out early and Goodell for reinstating him? Yeah-that sounds good!”

  15. favrefan says: Jun 20, 2011 11:54 AM

    VICK FOR PRESIDENT!!! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME

  16. donovanmcflabb says: Jun 20, 2011 11:57 AM

    Although I’m in favor of Vick 2.0 and would like to see him continue to rehab his image on and off the field, maybe having a small contingent of people continuing to protest his appearances isn’t such a bad thing if it never lets Vick forget his recent past and, consequently, the importance of staying the course.

  17. dannymac17 says: Jun 20, 2011 12:13 PM

    If they didnt spend so much time following Vick around, they could probably be doing something positive, like, you know, working at a kennell to save dogs. No, they want to throw pity parties 2 years after the he served his time. These nuttjobs need to get an actual day job.

  18. breeshasabush says: Jun 20, 2011 12:14 PM

    No matter how much Vick or his supporters dislike the protesters he has to deal with it for as long as he is in the public eye. You cant do the things he did and expect to not have to hear protesters. Dude brought it upon himself and if you disagree with that then you obviously dont know what world you’re living in.

  19. xxwhodatxx says: Jun 20, 2011 12:16 PM

    I like it, keep up the good work

  20. red2redman says: Jun 20, 2011 12:18 PM

    The pic in the article of the protesters are nothing but out of shape, unattractive women with no one to love on them but their dog!!!

  21. king3319 says: Jun 20, 2011 12:19 PM

    Pacific…well said!!! No doubt the man royaly screwed up!! But as said by many here…he did his time…ladies and gents child molesters and rapist get off with less time!!! And people only remember 9/11 when it suits their particular cause!!! I love my dogs and think it’s horrible what he did…I so agree with the rest…get a f$&?in life and focus on something more important in life!!!!

  22. t16rich says: Jun 20, 2011 12:20 PM

    “You ought to be ashamed of yourselves!” one protester yelled at a kid.

    hahahaha. CMON MAN!!! that kid would let mike walk his dogs. he dosnt care. protesters are awesomly entertaining sometimes. but i agree with donovon mcflabb. what he did should never be forgotten and he deserves to have a large number of people hate him for the rest of his life. dosnt take away from the fact since his release from prison, mike vick does more charity work than most the league. hate all you want but he is trying.

  23. goawayeverybody says: Jun 20, 2011 12:25 PM

    I despise Michael Ick but if he helps me win my fantasy football league, so be it.

  24. seeschool says: Jun 20, 2011 12:25 PM

    Civil war, disease, famine… plenty of stuff to spend your free time trying to fix. protesting MV7? c’mon folks, GET A FREAKIN LIFE!

    Well there’s your list….other people believe passionately that animal cruelty needs to be stopped.

    You have your opinion, they have theirs.

    It’s great to hear that there are still people out there objecting to this sociopath, and not applauding him for “rehabing his image”. “Rehabing his image” is really just a fancy way of saying “pretending he’s sorry”. He’s doing what he needs to do to get his next big contract, and to not have the cops breathing down his throat, and this is to be applauded? Really?

    Oh yes, and to answer you question kellyb9…I have one word for you…..premeditation.

    Donte Stallworth unintentionally killed someone while driving intoxicated, Michael Vick purposely killed dogs for many years for the purpose of entertaining himself and his friends. One is a pattern of behaviour that suggests SEVERE character flaws.

  25. jacksaysfu says: Jun 20, 2011 12:27 PM

    @clintonportisheadd

    The only reason you call eagles fans front runners is because Philadelphia is ALWAYS in front of your basement dwelling redskins . Enjoy your expensive last place .

  26. bhindenemylines says: Jun 20, 2011 12:34 PM

    What are the 50 people protesting at the card signing expecting to accomplish?

    Are they expecting the Eagle brass to see them and say “Uh oh. There are 50 people who are upset that Vick is our QB. Looks like we have to get rid of him. Gee, golly, shucks. It was great while it lasted”.

    What a bunch of losers. He’s their QB get over it or root for another team.

  27. bigbwoy000 says: Jun 20, 2011 12:38 PM

    breeshasabush says:
    Jun 20, 2011 12:14 PM
    No matter how much Vick or his supporters dislike the protesters he has to deal with it for as long as he is in the public eye. You cant do the things he did and expect to not have to hear protesters. Dude brought it upon himself and if you disagree with that then you obviously dont know what world you’re living in.
    ———————————————
    AGREE 100%!! Unless the rest of the public “forgives” Vick for his intentional, irrational, ghoulish, sick, sadistic, did I mention INTENTIONAL FOR SIX YEARS, horrific cruelty & torture for no other reason except he actually enjoyed doing it to hurt, crying, bleeding & ripped up animals, everyone should get lives. “He did his time” is what everyone wants to say, although he never did one minute of time for his sick acts with his bare hands for entertainment, he got a sweetheart deal from an incompetent prosecutor. If anyone understands that torturing animals because for some inner dark yearning, is totally sick, THEY are the ones with the problem. The posters here should be ashamed, just because Vick did 23 months for a organized gambling ring charge, doesn’t let him off the hook for his abhorrent cruelty multiple times a week for 6 years. When he does time for those crimes, then he did his time & not a moment before. As for protestors ever needing a second chance, a one or even 2 time mistake deserves a second chance. When you spend 6 years multiple times a week torturing animals that are already hurt as you ignore their cries & screams because it’s fun for you or it entertains you, that isn’t a mistake. It’s inside you & 23 months in jail doesn’t “cure” it. The comments made here in regards to second chances & forgiving are ridiculous. Opinions are one thing but fact is fact. Read what the FBI & medical professionals thinks of people that torture animals for fun. Half the commenter’s here act like they have never opened a book.

  28. movieman5 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:01 PM

    You do understand that vick did not hold the lifes of dogs to as high of a standard as you do? Vick looked at these animals as maybe you would look at killing an ant or fly. I don’t agree with what vick did but he is not a sadistic person that has to kill animals to be happy. In the scope of life, what vick did is not even in the top 50 worst things done by a human being. Get your priorities straight people and worry about your own lives.

  29. bleedgreen says: Jun 20, 2011 1:09 PM

    Action update: being rude to people you are trying to sway to your point of view doesn’t work. Telling a kid he should be ashamed of himself and yelling at him is only going to push him further TOWARDS the thing you’re protesting.

  30. klunge says: Jun 20, 2011 1:12 PM

    The answer to the rhetorical question that keeps being asked, “Don’t these people have anything better to do?” is quite clearly “NO!” Not because it’s so worthy a cause. The real reason they are out there is not to save any dogs’ lives, but to try to make themselves feel like they have some semblance of meaning or purpose in their own lives.
    If they cared about preventing animal cruelty, they would be protesting some person or business CURRENTLY harming animals, not one who stopped over 4yrs ago. Whether Vick is truly remorseful and/or will be forgiven is not for another human to decide, so how any of us judge another is irrelevant apart from the weight it carries in the judgment we ourselves receive.

    These particular protestors proved only that they can hold a long & intense grudge against someone for offending their sensibilities.

  31. joe6606 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:12 PM

    “Donte Stallworth unintentionally killed someone while driving intoxicated”
    ————————————-
    Oh, so someone held Stallworth down and forceably shoved gallons of alcohol down his throat and then put a gun to his head, demanding that he get behind the wheel of a car??

    Didnt think so.

    The fact that people like you think that killing people while drunk is not that big of a deal, whereas killing a stupid animal is unforgivable, is a perfect example of why the legal system is horrficably f-ed up.

  32. mdh67 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:19 PM

    Why aren’t these animal cruelty folks out protesting at meat processing plants. Aren’t pigs, cows and chickens people too?

  33. arrogantathlete says: Jun 20, 2011 1:30 PM

    What’s funny hardly anyone would be defending this guy if he wasn’t playing in the NFL. That’s how dumb most football fans are.

  34. lowleadman says: Jun 20, 2011 1:31 PM

    Vick did his time. He can play football. However, if you are gullible enough to think that Vick is ACTUALLY rehabilitated, if you think Vick is truly sorrowful for his mis-deeds, if you think that Vick really regrets what he did to helpless animals and did not change his image in order to get back on the field and make millions but did so because he really saw the errors of his ways, then PT Barnum has a message for ya.
    Vick, Tiger, Weiner, they all have huge regrets AFTER getting caught.

  35. MVQB7 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:31 PM

    I don’t no what is worse – the nuts who actually pay to get his autograph- the crackpots who protest the oddballs paying for autographs- or the scumbags who sponsor events for the cash bearing morons who attract the canine crybabies.

  36. kevpft says: Jun 20, 2011 1:38 PM

    No matter what you think about the protesters, the fact remains that Vick never did time for killing dogs. He went to jail for racketeering. His dog violence was neatly swept under the rug thanks to some kind of back-room deal-making.

    So you lot who are asking protesters to “get a life” need to better inform yourselves. You may not like it, which is fine, but this is a guy who committed horrible crimes for which he was never punished.

    If your neighbor tortured and killed your dog and then went to jail for stealing someone’s car stereo across town – but was never charged with your dog’s killing – would you feel that “justice was done”? Do you think you might even hold a grudge?

    Perspective, people. Perspective.

    Personally, I think Vick is a sociopathic reprobate who has succeeded only in redeeming his ability to be a wealthy celebrity. The kind of psychosis which informs what he did doesn’t just go away. He’s a twisted person at a much deeper level than anyone’s admitting. But if he’s going to be an NFL quarterback and adored by the somewhat dull, amoral, glassy-eyed legions of fans he seems to have, then I’m at least glad he continues to speak out about his past and support positive causes which are helping to slowly destroy the culture he supported for so long. Even scum can do some good.

  37. klunge says: Jun 20, 2011 1:40 PM

    arrogantathlete says:
    Jun 20, 2011 1:30 PM
    What’s funny hardly anyone would be defending this guy if he wasn’t playing in the NFL. That’s how dumb most football fans are.
    ——————————————-

    Yeah, and nobody would be following him all over creation picketing everything he does either. I think you mistakenly believe everyone talking against the protesters supports Vick. I don’t, I just think the protesting is idiotic and purposeless.

  38. innerlign says: Jun 20, 2011 1:40 PM

    This is all part of Michael Vick paying his debt to society. I’m sure he understands this. He made the decisions to brutally kill those animals, then repeatedly lie about it. I he hadn’t gotten caught, he would probably still be doing it.
    Jail time is one thing, but he will pay for this for the rest of his life. I am one who believes he did not spend enough time in prison.

  39. kellyb9 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:43 PM

    arrogantathlete says:
    Jun 20, 2011 1:30 PM
    “What’s funny hardly anyone would be defending this guy if he wasn’t playing in the NFL. That’s how dumb most football fans are.” —- So what’s your point? If he wasn’t playing football nobody would be protesting him either. The guy did his time, and he deserves to be able to pursue whatever occupation he wants. I’m not sure how defending him or not speaks to the intelligence of your average football fan.

  40. 1buckeye76 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:44 PM

    i hate pit bulls

  41. scott8nj says: Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM

    I agree with you bigbwoy000. I don’t care for the term “mistake” when the actions were done repeatedly over a 6 year span. Much like a pedophile can’t change his sexual preferences, a person who tortures animal doesn’t suddenly care about them. I am not comparing the 2 things -just saying that both behaviors do not change. I don’t feel that he ever displayed remorse either, and that’s because he doesn’t feel it. I wouldn’t waste my time going to protest him, but he deserves everything he gets.

  42. dan39564 says: Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM

    Mike Vick isn’t the only person to fight and Kill dogs, Dog Fighting goes on all the time, hundreds of people are arrested every year!

    You never hear about them, they are not famous NFL Stars!

    And Usually they only get a slap on the wrist, the local sherrif pockets the betting money.
    Takes the dogs to shelters, where they usually get put to sleep!

    You or I can’t do anything about that, but we can protest mike vick!

  43. kevpft says: Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM

    It’s a typical statement on the average intelligence of commenters here that several people have said the protesters should “get a job”… when they were protesting on a Sunday afternoon.

    How many folks here, myself included, spent Sunday afternoon so stridently and publicly championing deeply-held personal ideals as these protesters did, or for that matter, even have any deeply-held personal ideals of any significance? Disagreeing with them or their tactics is fine, but to belittle them as so many here do shows a lack of seriousness and a lot of defensiveness about some kind of insecurity.

  44. breeshasabush says: Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM

    I hear ya bigbwoy000. I used to be as vocal as you are on this subject but ive learned to tone it down when it comes to Vick, mainly because hes not worth the time arguing over. I fault the NFL for actually letting him back in for example: look at that politician, Weiner. He was forced out of office because of his actions, because they were a disgrace to his job title. Don Imus, forced out of his job because he was a “disgrace” to his job title, i could go on and on. My thing is why would the NFL allow him back because his actions were certainly a disgrace to the NFL. Had Kyle Boller or Danny Woodhead done the same things Vick had done they’d be completely shunned and cast out of the NFL but bc of Vick’s pure atheletic ability he was allowed back. Its all about dollars! But dont get so upset about it he apparently went to prison for 23 months and in that 23 months 27 years of living a certain lifestyle was completely erased and now hes “cured”.

    As for movieman5- your statement is completely contradictory. you claim that Vicks actions weren’t sadistic, you claim that he isnt/wasnt (however you look at it) sadistic. But you said that Vick looked at dogs the same way other people look at ants. That statement may say more about you than it does about Vick. If in fact thats how Vick looked at dogs then the issues he has are a lot worse than anyone could’ve imagined and 23 months of just prison time and not one day of psychiatric treatment could correct that. That goes way beyond sadism. You are right, what he did wasnt the worst thing a human being has done but in that same theory neither was what OJ did, but does it make it ok… no it doesn’t. Just because a guy goes to prison doesnt mean anyone has to cut him slack, forgive, or leave them alone about it. In this country people have the right to protest just as Vick has the right to try to live his life after prison.

  45. lionsbandwagonisfull says: Jun 20, 2011 1:50 PM

    These people need to watch the movie Earthlings. It’s free online off of thier website. Help them gain a little perspective. Vick made a terrible mistake that he has to live with. He has done his time. Their time could be better spent, just need to look past the tip of thier nose.

  46. robdolphins says: Jun 20, 2011 1:52 PM

    Donte Stallworth unintentionally killed someone while driving intoxicated….. REALLY??? He intentionally got in a car knowing he was over the limit..He took a HUMAN life, yes he did not intend to kill anyone…but the resuslt is worse..Think of it like this: Would you be more sad if you lost a family member/loved one due to a drunk driver or if some nut killed your dog. If you had to think on that one….You need help.

  47. myeaglescantwin says: Jun 20, 2011 1:56 PM

    how much would you like to bet at least 80% of the people at this protest are the same folks that go out and purchase those dumb lil inbread purse dogs while the pound puppies are steady getting gassed??

    & dude is right,, dont waste your time at these protest, spend some time at an animal shelter ;; actually making a difference

  48. tlclove says: Jun 20, 2011 2:12 PM

    Some guy on here said that Vick wasn’t sadistic and that he viewed his dogs as we would view ants. No regard for them. We all know dogs suffer so when Vick and any other dog fighter hears the yelps and yelps and yelps of the dogs and their struggling as they try to live when they are electrocuting, drowning and slamming these dogs to the ground that is what stepping on an ant is like? Let’s not gloss over what animal abusers do. They are sadists and enjoy the torture, suffering and death of others. He’s moved on but don’t make him any better than what he is and yes, we should never forget what sadists do to humans or animals and we should stop either kind as much as possible.

  49. dieharddolfan6493 says: Jun 20, 2011 2:16 PM

    There are people that have gotten away with murder, rape, and robbery out walking the streets soldiers are out in the middle east getting killed, obesity and cancer are killing americans, children around the world are living in the streets dodging bullets but who cares about them a guy who participated in dog fighting is playing in the NFL hes an abomination to the world and a dangerous human he should be in prison for life.

  50. jh500 says: Jun 20, 2011 2:17 PM

    Good Lord, do these people have a life? Vick makes the NFL millions of dollars. His team is the one with the most prime time games. Vick isn’t going anywhere. All these animal nuts are just jealous that Vick has amazing talent and can make millions of dollars to play a game, while they can’t even make minimum wage. Michael Vick doesn’t care what a couple of people think of him. He is in the NFL doing what the loves to do, and is making crazy amount of money. Get over it and get a life.

  51. eaglesfan290 says: Jun 20, 2011 2:21 PM

    I am getting sick of this MIKE did his time, in this country the legal system says he has done his time and made restitution!

    Beyond that he keeps trying to do the right thing and speaking to kids and inmates and helping people make better decisions.

    If the animal rights activists had a clue they would embrace him get him to speak at their events, and change the culture in the dog fighting world; there is no one who will be able to get through to that group like Vick can they are missing an opportunity!

  52. rezahojjati says: Jun 20, 2011 2:21 PM

    MVickP
    And VICK FOR PRESIDENT!!!

  53. tlclove says: Jun 20, 2011 2:31 PM

    It is true speaking to the kids is important and stopping dog fighting but people have a right to talk about what he did for the rest of his life. No one would be talking about this guy if the media stopped putting articles out about him. This guy went back into sports. He knows the score and that what he did to those dogs was infamous. He brought dog fighting to the forefront as a disgusting illegal activity. He could have just stayed out of the spotlight. Don’t feel sorry for the guy. He’s laughing all the way to the bank. You sports fans make this man more than what he is. He has a talent makes millions. So what? Do you think he is going to give you some money? Sports fans are the strangest fans. Doesn’t matter what the person is like just so long as you can watch your game.

  54. breeshasabush says: Jun 20, 2011 2:54 PM

    dieharddolfan6493 says:
    Jun 20, 2011 2:16 PM
    There are people that have gotten away with murder, rape, and robbery out walking the streets soldiers are out in the middle east getting killed, obesity and cancer are killing americans, children around the world are living in the streets dodging bullets but who cares about them a guy who participated in dog fighting is playing in the NFL hes an abomination to the world and a dangerous human he should be in prison for life.

    ————————-

    Rest assured had an NFL superstar committed any of those crimes you mentioned and was found guilty of those crimes or admitted to happily taking in those crimes and somehow found his way back into the NFL people would be doing the same thing to that person just the same as they are doing to Vick. Ray Lewis was just accused of murder, found innocent, and people still call him murderer.

  55. seeschool says: Jun 20, 2011 2:59 PM

    “Donte Stallworth unintentionally killed someone while driving intoxicated”
    ————————————-
    Oh, so someone held Stallworth down and forceably shoved gallons of alcohol down his throat and then put a gun to his head, demanding that he get behind the wheel of a car??

    Didnt think so.

    The fact that people like you think that killing people while drunk is not that big of a deal, whereas killing a stupid animal is unforgivable, is a perfect example of why the legal system is horrficably f-ed up.

    Never said that what Stallworth did isn’t a big deal. In fact, if I ran the league neither of those degenerates would be there. My point was that Stallworth’s crime was an exercise in poor judgement, but it was not premeditated. Vick was well aware of what he was doing, and did it for an extended period of time.

    You’re right…that darn legal system….looking to respect life, and to protect those who cannot protect themselves. Michael Vick spent 2 years in prison, leaves prison, and now he has tens of thousands of adoring fans and millions of dollars in his bank account. Oh….the humanity!!!!

  56. svenidol says: Jun 20, 2011 3:03 PM

    I know that when it comes to Mike Vick, facts and reality seldom come in to play, but let me at least ATTEMPT to set the record straight. Everyone wants to say “He served his time – it’s time to let it go.” Let’s be very clear about the facts of the case. Michael Vick pled guilty to a federal RICO charge of promoting gambling across state lines. That is all. The prosecutor for the Commonwealth of Virgina who was responsible for bringing the animal cruelty charges against Vick declined to do so. Bear in mind this is a man who (a) admitted to being a fan of Vick since his days as a Hokie at VT (b) represented Vick’s father in a civil matter a couple years before (c) warned federal investigators that they were making a lot of enemies by pursuing the RICO charges & (d) actively and passively interfered in the federal investigation. The sentence for a conviction on a charge of animal cruelty that results in the death of the animal in VA is up to 5 years. Vick confessed to killing “6 or 7″ dogs, but eyewitness testimony places that number much higher – 11 at least, with the belief that there were probably many more. Add in the numerous other charges that should have been levied against him – 51 counts of lesser animal abuse charges – and that’s only ONE count for each dog that survived the house of horrors at Bad Newz Kennels – plus obstruction, making false statements, state gambling charges, tax evasion, etc, and Vick should still be sitting in a Virginia State Prison. And all that aside, when one makes a conscious decision to torture another living being purely for fun and profit, they have crossed a line that cannot be uncrossed. And when you add in the fact that Vick then summarily executed by means most foul those living creatures who failed to properly amuse him while they were being tortured, it should be fairly simple for any rational person to come to the conclustion that Michael Vick forfeited any right he had to be placed in a position where he could ever be viewed as a role model or sports hero tho the youth of America.
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  57. samwadd5 says: Jun 20, 2011 3:18 PM

    Don Imus, forced out of his job because he was a “disgrace” to his job title, i could go on and on. My thing is why would the NFL allow him back because his actions were certainly a disgrace to the NFL.
    ———————————————–
    Don Imus was back on the air within 2 weeks after his statements with a new contract and a raise. Weiner will most likely hold another government post and most likely no one outside of his state will care. Yes what MV7 did was wrong and cruel but he paid his debt to society

  58. oranjellojones says: Jun 20, 2011 3:55 PM

    oldbyrd says:

    “I truly hope that all 50 of those so called protesters never need a second chance at anything.”

    OH Good Lord what a festering load of crap. He DID get his second chance…it was called being released from prison. Why exactly does he deserve a second chance to be a mulitmillionaire on top of that? Playing in the NFL is a privilege, it’s amazing to me that people don’t think this turd deserves to be treated by society at large the same way every other convicted felon is…with ostracization and being relegated to the crap jobs of the world. Name one other profession besides professional athlete or actor where an ex con is not only able to keep his old job but is welcomed back with open arms and a clean slate like nothing ever happened. Name one other professional industry where that person keeps their credentials and ability to do their job instead of losing their license and being effectively banned from ever doing that job in this country again.

    As for the lame oft repeated Stallsworth comparison:

    Good God people could you be any more simple minded with that? For starters Donte would have hit that guy whether he was drunk or not. His BAC as stated by the police AND THE FAMILY had nothing to do with the accident. The man who died ran out onto a Highway at night. There’s a huge reason why the guy’s family was completely satisfied with Stallworth’s sentence…they knew their loved one was responsible for his own death.

    Donte drove drunk and he deserves no slack for that but comparing that incident to Vick’s willful systematic cruelty to animals is not only absurd, it’s intellectually insulting to anyone with half a brain. Vick and his boys were taking people’s pets and throwing them in to be slaughtered as training for the fighting dogs, and they are on record as having laughed it up the whole time. Slamming a dog down by it’s hind legs on pavement until it dies is beyond sick and 2 years in prison along with some serious marketing money and muscle thrown at rehabbing your image doesn’t erase the psychosis that was at the root of it. This guy is a bad dude and we haven’t even gotten into his Ron Mexico escapades.

    Anyone like kellyb who defends this guy’s right to “go out and do whatever he wants” after getting out early from a sentence that never addressed a single dog fighting charge has serious backbone or morality problems. Grow a spine and quit making excuses for this jerkoff, he should be pushing a broom somewhere not being sheltered by The Eagles and treated like a good guy who had a minor, brief lapse of judgement. This went on for over 6 years!

  59. kevpft says: Jun 20, 2011 4:26 PM

    @svenidol – very well said. Good information, and actual humanity in your words – something lacking in almost all the comments here.

  60. tlclove says: Jun 20, 2011 4:39 PM

    Right on oldbyrd. Tell it like it is. It is ONLY because this guy is in sports that he got to go back to his old job after what he did. You sports fans will excuse any behavior away so you can watch your game. He’s not going to give you any money. Why adore the guy so much? He isn’t god and he just like other animal/human abuser did a really horrible thing. You know what makes it even worse? These dogs give UNCONDITIONAL LOVE EVEN AFTER THEY ARE ABUSED UNTIL THEY CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE OR ARE FINALLY KILLED. The only description for people who do this to animals or kids who cannot defend themselves is they are monsters.

  61. robdolphins says: Jun 20, 2011 5:15 PM

    I just don’t get it..Players have battered their wives and no one seems to care..Little killed someone while driving drunk and then got busted again for DUI…Yet, that all seems okay to most on this board…I don’t like the actions of Vick, but he is a free man now…You don’t need to be of high moral character to play football..If Vick was a teacher, police officer, etc. and got his job back then I could see the issue…You can hate him all you want that is your right, but to think he should not be able to work as a pro football player is just silly.

  62. mullwall412 says: Jun 20, 2011 5:49 PM

    I dont like vick but I find it disgusting the way hes potrayed. There are plenty of much richer people who have done worse things. Also why exactly are these loonies allowed to follow him around. Isnt that harrasment. Did they have permission to have a demonstration.

  63. movieman5 says: Jun 20, 2011 5:52 PM

    @breeshasabush
    So if someone does not hold dogs to people standards then there is something wrong with them? No, there is something wrong with people who hold any life form to or above a human beings life, which is clearly what is happening with these nitwits. These people have the right to protest Vick and the opposite of that is Vick trying to live his life? Give me a break, What Vick did has nothing to do with anyone. I don’t see how it has affected anyones life. These people are jealous that he is able to still make a good living, so they must try to hold on to this notion that by protesting Vick signing autographs that they are in some way doing something good. How are they doing anything constructive? They are not doing anything to help there cause by protesting Vick. What does harassing this man accomplish? NOTHING! This guy is doing more good for the awareness of animal cruelty than 99% of people in the world, and most likely more than anyone protesting him. Pit bulls are wild animals which snap at any time. There are a lot of natural wild animals that are way less aggressive than a pit bull and they are by far the most aggressive dog. These animals need to be banned. Not to many things are worse than what OJ Simpson did and Vick didn’t even come close to what OJ did. So how did I contradict myself? You never explained that.

  64. leah007veronica says: Jun 20, 2011 5:53 PM

    How very sad and pathetic…a mother taking a child to get the autograph of such a spineless dog killing piece of human garbage…family values these days :( It doesn’t surprise me though, Vick fans wouldn’t care if he raped or killed someone as long as he can throw a ball. Congrats for being just as disgusting as your hero

  65. jh500 says: Jun 20, 2011 7:17 PM

    oranjellojones says: Jun 20, 2011 3:55 ”

    OH Good Lord what a festering load of crap. He DID get his second chance…it was called being released from prison. Why exactly does he deserve a second chance to be a mulitmillionaire on top of that? Playing in the NFL is a privilege, it’s amazing to me that people don’t think this turd deserves to be treated by society at large the same way every other convicted felon is…with ostracization and being relegated to the crap jobs of the world. Name one other profession besides professional athlete or actor where an ex con is not only able to keep his old job but is welcomed back with open arms and a clean slate like nothing ever happened. Name one other professional industry where that person keeps their credentials and ability to do their job instead of losing their license and being effectively banned from ever doing that job in this country again
    ____________________________________

    Playing in the NFL is not a privilege when you are loaded with talent like Michael Vick. Vick just happens to be one of the greatest athletes to play the game. Not his fault that he is super talented and teams wanted to sign him.

  66. tlclove says: Jun 20, 2011 7:37 PM

    So Vick didn’t kill a person. So what? So just because it wasn’t a person we should just write it off? Are we trying to prioritize horrific acts? Dogs suffer and these dogs suffered tremendously under his hands and the hands of other animal abusers. It is VERY important. It shows a depraved mindset that should not be encouraged or praised in ANY way.

  67. muhangis says: Jun 20, 2011 11:24 PM

    “I’m not bringing him in because he killed dogs,” Robbins said. “I’m bringing in him because he’s the biggest autograph draw out there right now.”

    “The fact people are pissed off, I 100 percent respect that. If they want to complain they should go to the commissioner of the NFL for letting him back in.”

    ************************************************

    Independent of my feelings on Vick, this card shop older sounds like a true scumbag!

    Wow I’m sure that all of that exactly is what Vick wanted to hear

  68. dieharddolfan6493 says: Jun 21, 2011 12:35 AM

    @breeshasabush im just saying of all the problems going on in the world some one who participated in dog playing in the NFL isnt a problem why not just leave the man alone? There are tons of players in the NFL that have done worse things then dog fighting. What vick did was wrong but hes getting ridiculed and sent to prison for dog fighting while alot murders, drug dealers, and rapist get away with things. Why go out your way to ridicule some one who did his time and is turning his life around? Why not go annoy a politician whos stealing your money or a peta building that neglects the animals they “save” ?

  69. zmcgee8 says: Jun 21, 2011 1:57 AM

    ridiculous…..these protestors must not be people of faith. WWJD….i bet Jesus wouldn’t appear at a public event to tell people how horrible Vick is and how horrible little kids are for getting an autograph.. let’s praise the man for trying to get right…not smash him with negativity and hatred. Get real people.. WOW

  70. seeschool says: Jun 21, 2011 7:42 AM

    Donte Stallworth unintentionally killed someone while driving intoxicated….. REALLY??? He intentionally got in a car knowing he was over the limit..He took a HUMAN life, yes he did not intend to kill anyone…but the resuslt is worse..Think of it like this: Would you be more sad if you lost a family member/loved one due to a drunk driver or if some nut killed your dog. If you had to think on that one….You need help.

    What the hell was the purpose of this comment? You question me and you agree with me in the same paragraph. Yes….the result was worse….I was talking about the INTENT. Donte Stallworth made a terrible terrible mistake, and he should pay a greater price in my opinion, but Michael Vick committed appalling acts INTENTIONALLY. That was my point…thank you for agreeing.

  71. breeshasabush says: Jun 21, 2011 10:58 AM

    dieharddolfan6493

    It is a problem. Dog fighting is a HUGE PROBLEM. Read a book, watch a documentary, what happens to these dogs is horrid, unimaginable, and absolutely heart breaking. Its not that im this crazy dog lover, but i love my german shep and if someone did something like that to my dog they’d put mme in jail for a very long time if i found those responsible, he is a member of our family. The people who take part in this activity are absolute scum and deserve a more harsh punishment than prison… but thats just my opinion. Rapists, murderers, drug dealers don’t play in the NFL. Yes, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth played after killing someone while driving under the influence but take a look at the facts just as people do with Vick… Stallworth and Little did not commit these crimes in a premeditated organized manner. And instead of being sentenced to life in prison they offered the berived families money to make the problem go away. If some wealthy celebrity/sports figure killed my relative and offered me money to make it go away id spit in their face and tell them to rot in prison but in this case, the families took the money. Were they (Stallworth and Little) stupid and wreckless, ABSOLUTELY! But the intent is not that of Vick’s, they did not intend to see a person in the street and purposely run them down. Now, do I feel they should have been let back into the NFL… absolutely not! The NFL is one of the biggest corporations in the world. If you work in the corporate world, like i do, you know that when you are convicted of such crimes as little, stallworth, and definitely Vick you are just about assured that once you walk out of the jailhouse you will be jobless. The NFL has to be more concerned about its public image than it is right now because it is at an all time low (not considering the effects the lockout). Prisoners are walking out of the prison yard straight to the football field, what does that say to kids? Most importantly what does that say to atheletes that are almost to that level (Terrell Pryor) it says i can do just about anything I want, appear to be sorry, and i’ll be back at it in no time. If I were Roger Goddell I’d say “look Mike, pac-man, Leonard, Donte, Chris Henry, etc… you are a great athelete but your repeated misconduct has left me with no other choice but to ban you from the NFL. Ive given you chance after chance and it has not gotten through to you and I will not let the NFL’s image be associated with your antics. We have a responsibility to our fans, especially the young ones, to be represented in a positive way.” Im not saying Mike Vick cannot live his life after prison I just dont see why he has been given the privilige to continue his NFL career when he has time and again proved that he has no regard for their rules as well as the law. All these people who claim he’s doing charity work (which is REQUIRED by ALL NFL players) and how hes saying all the right things to own up to what he did…. what do you expect? Did you expect for him to come out and say, I dont care and im not sorry for what I did? This wasn’t his first time in trouble. If the NFL is not careful you will inevitably see a “Ron Artest” incident very very soon and that….wil be a very sad day! Cheers!

  72. breeshasabush says: Jun 21, 2011 11:39 AM

    movieman5

    Yes there is something wrong with people who think its quite ok to torture animals. Killing cattle for the sake of food is different because it is for the sake of food. Believe it or not not all people are medically able to be vegetarians, so in that instance its for the sake of survival. And yes people should respect animal and human life the same… there is not one good sane, logical reason for one to torture animals for entertainment… that is sick and disgusting. Yes people have EVERY right to protest Vick when he signs autographs, when he suits up and plays football, when he does commercials, etc… when he puts himself in the public eye he is welcoming the good along with the bad… he knows the score, why dont you? I dont think people are jealous of him making millions bc if that were the case theyd be jealous and hate every single player in the NFL. They are angry because Vick gets a slap on the wrist because hes a football player, and YES 23 months for what he did is a slap on the wrist! This guy is doing more for cruelty awareness than 99% of people??? Really??? Hes done more cruelty to animals than 99% of us too, he does those things because thats the only way he can repair his image so people like you will say the things you say, wake up dude! Pitt Bulls or any dog for that matter who attack or are aggressive toward people are a reflection on irresponsible owners… its the same premise of a child if you raise them correctly they act correctly. You’re generalizing and it makes your comments less credible. My friend has a pittbull and the only way that dog could kill you is if it licked you to death, complete sweetheart… so theres a hole in your pitt theory. Really, not too many things are worse than what OJ did? So you would rank OJ’s crime in the top 50 of all time crimes ever committed? What he did was horrible but its not that uncommon for a crazy ex husband to do what he did… it happens quite often. Read about what happens around the world every single day and you will find more horrible and disgusting things than what OJ did. I will not go into detail on those things. You contradicted yourself because you said Vick wasn’t a sadist but you said Vick looked at dogs like other people would look at ants (burning ants with a magnifying glass is sadistic behavior), you admitted that what Vick did was wrong. In case you didnt know, your hero Vick admitted to having personal gratification in carrying out those acts… that is the definition of sadism. Dogfighting in itself is sadism. Please for the sake of humanity get yourself some serious help. Im not even being funny about that.

  73. andrewfbrowne says: Jun 21, 2011 3:36 PM

    Guy lost two years of his life and 100 million dollars worth of endorsements, he has done lots of speaking engagements above and beyond what the league and his parole call for.

    Debt paid, why do people not protest like this about hunger in our country, lack of a solid education system, and violence we have towards one another. 1/3 of all people who go to emergency rooms are victims fo a violent crime.

    When all the starving people in the world push their plates to the center of the table and say not another bite and we go a whole day without someone being murdered anywhere on the planet I will turn my attention to the animal kingdom and the injustices there.

  74. tlclove says: Jun 21, 2011 4:30 PM

    @andrewfbrowne: The guy lost two years of his life and 100 million dollars worth of endorsements because he did illegal activities and is a sadist. He laughed and had some fun while torturing dogs, watching them suffer and die. He knew exactly what he was doing and NO ONE forced him to do these things. I doubt you are really concerned about all the problems in the world. You are just using that as an excuse for Vick. Yes there will always be problems in the world created by people towards people. Dogs give unconditional love even after being abused. They depend on the kindness of humans and Vick and other animal abusers let them down. Animal and human abusers/sadists are in lay terms called monsters. We have every right to stop this depraved behavior wherever it occurs.

  75. tlclove says: Jun 21, 2011 4:46 PM

    @andrewfbrowne: I don’t think you really care about all those problems. People keep using that as an excuse for this guy. He knowingly participated in disgusting and sick illegal activities and everyone knows what they were. He was not forced into doing anything. He had it all yet he needed to do horrific acts to get entertainment and more money. Truly a piece of work. Don’t feel sorry for this piece of work of a human being.

  76. theblowtorchreview says: Jun 22, 2011 10:00 PM

    People who abuse animals for pleasure and profit are mentally ill. I have no problem with protesters reminding the Dawg Killa of that every day for the rest of his life.

    And like someone else said, if he wasn’t an NFL QB, and instead a local garbage man or 7-11 clerk, he would have -0- supporters.

  77. bigbwoy000 says: Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM

    1) Vick paid his debt- Totally untrue- he went to prison for organized gambling, not for his sadistic torture of already hurt & screaming animals for fun. By VA law, he should have gotten 10 years. He didn’t BEACUSE of who he was he got of way too easy.

    2) The protesting on Vick is because of his horrific cruelty, not for “killing” dogs. It’s no where near that simple. Yes PITA euthanizes animals, all shelters do. Euthanizing isn’t TORTURE, Vick intentionally TORTURED. I have never seen a Vick defender address that fact, the TORTURE. Anyone that has ever read about individuals that torture animals for fun understands the deep inner sickness of people that do these things. Add to it Vick did this for 6 YEARS & it is even more horrific than other animal’s abusers.

    3) His second chance is getting another shot to play pro football. The second chance has nothing to do with public opinion. He has never expressed any remorse for the torture. He hasn’t contributed one dime to abused animals. He admitted a few months ago that he would do it again. Does that sound like someone “sorry” & remorseful for the cruelty & pain he intentionally & senselessly dished out? NO it isn’t.

    4) Just as the simple minded here that defend this POS, educated, aware people have the right to protest anyone that would multiple times a week abuse & torture already crying & ripped up animals for fun. Vick defenders love to bring in hunting & the food industry. No hunters are catching prey & as they cry in pain intentionally torture them. Did Vick eat the dogs? C’mon with this totally ridiculous analogy. Domestic animals are like ants? Seriously?? The things Vick defenders come up with are as sick as his crimes.

    5) Religion has nothing to do with the things Vick did. Judging in a religious sense or moral sense isn’t the issue that Vick fans try & make it. It’s about sick, sadistic mental issues. Anyone (according to the FBI & mental professionals) that would torture animals for self fulfillment is sick, plain & simple. This is behavior is well documented in detail if Vick defenders care to educate themselves instead of sticking up for such a poor excuse for a human being blindly. Ignorance is truly bliss for Vick fans.

    6) Vick defenders love to tell others what to protest, what to feel. They love to tell others what acts or crimes are more important than what Vick did, as they ignore him knowingly infecting human beings with incurable disease. If this fool lived in their neighborhoods & did the things he did, worked at a gas station or landscaping – no one would be sticking up for him. But people that understand animal torture & abuse would still be circulating petitions & writing letters asking he get maximum penalties. That is the difference Vick fans, people that understand animal torture feel the same way about anyone that would be heartless enough to torture already hurt & bleeding creatures. Vick defenders couldn’t care less about any other regular person that got in trouble as Vick did.

  78. powderedme says: Jun 24, 2011 8:27 AM

    I agree with the protest.

    Booooo books!

  79. pigeonpea says: Jun 24, 2011 10:06 AM

    oldbyrd says:

    I truly hope that all 50 of those so c alled protesters never need a second chance at anything.

    Nobody is saying Vick shouldn’t get a second chance, only that is should have started with “can I take your order, please?” and ended with “do you want fries with that?”

    The fact this VD-spreading, dog torturing, dope smoking sociopath is getting praised by playing “hero” to children of Philly is simply wrong on too many levels to count. However, it does sum up the “City of Brotherly Love” quite nicely.

    BTW: I can assure you the vast majority of people protesting and/or having issues with Vick playing in the NFL have never needed a “second chance” after doing federal time for interstate racketeering and illicit gambling charges. Of course, I would also suspect that you would be an exception to that statement.

  80. scott8nj says: Jun 25, 2011 8:36 PM

    What Vick did was despicable. If you defend him, you are despicable. Do you think that if dog fighting were legalized tomorrow he wouldn’t do it again? I have never met a dog I didn’t like. I meet scummy people all the time.

  81. 504dubb says: Jun 26, 2011 10:34 PM

    i really don’t get why folks are still on Vick for this stuff. What he did was horrible and im not glorifying it in anyway. But we talking bout damn dogs! DOGS!!!! I guess folks who own Slaughter Houses get a pass right? Im so tired of the hate thrown toward this issue. He served his time, payed his dues for what he did. Now go protest about some S**** that will change our living for the positive like Schools, Universal Health Care & these crooked politicians!

  82. bigbwoy000 says: Jun 27, 2011 7:25 AM

    @504dubb

    If you read above, it clearly states why people are “are still on Vick for this stuff.” Typical Vick defender, doesn’t read anything, wants to interject an opinion filled with issues that have nothing to do with Vick. All they want to do is see their failed logic on the web & shill for someone that is pure evil. If Vick defenders ever picked up a book & educated themselves, that would be the real surprise. The ignorance that surrounds Vick defenders is the pure definition of Mike Vick himself.

  83. breeshasabush says: Jun 27, 2011 1:05 PM

    504dubb

    If a convicted child molester moved in next door to your house and you had children, would you feel ok with that just because he served time in prison for his crimes? Lets say the guy went to jail for 5-10 years for a sexual crime that involved a child roughly around the same age as your child… would you be singing the same tune saying “he paid his debt to society, leave the guy alone”? I doubt it. You would be uneasy around the guy, you would feel furious if you saw the guy even glance at your child, you would never ever let your child talk to the guy…. but why, he went to prison and “paid his debt” and surely he learned his lesson in prison, right? All im saying is you guys give him a pass because he’s Mike Vick, and you all say “he paid his debt to society” as if the prison system is 100% effective and correctly rehabilitates criminals when we all know that to be a complete crock. All Vick is is a football player, why does he deserve any special treatment than any other convicted felon? If your reasoning is simply because “its just dogs” then you may not understand the law’s stance on this. Had he gone to jail for his crimes that involved actual dogfighting and the killing of dogs he would’ve gotten a much longer prison sentence, but he did not serve time for that, he did not “pay his debt” for that, he went to prison for gambling charges as a plea bargain. Saying “its just DOGS!!!!” is just like saying “its just DRUGS” when a drug dealer goes to prison and not taking into consideration the lives that that man ruins by selling his poison to people. Look up pictures of dogs who have been killed/injured in a dogfighting ring and tell me it isn’t wrong, morally and lawfully. What about the dogs, do they truly not matter? Do they not deserve to be able to live a life without torture? Do they deserve the abuse? Do they not deserve the chance to be loved by some one who loves dogs? They weren’t given that chance… they were murdered in cold blood and thats not an opinion, thats a clear fact. Look at it from all sides, not just one.

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