Vick’s placement on Top 100 list remains to be seen

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Last Sunday, during Game 6 of the NBA Finals (which likely sucked away a large chunk of the audience) and the Tony Awards (which likely didn’t), Gary Myers of the New York Daily News and I appeared on NFL Network’s Top 100 reaction show to discuss, among other things, where Eagles quarterback Mike Vick eventually will land on the list.

As of last Sunday, with 30 players left to be revealed, six quarterbacks remained:  Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, and Vick.  (That list is alphabetical, so don’t read anything into it.  Other than that it’s alphabetical.)

Yours truly suggested that Vick could land as high as No. 2, given that the list was generated by asking players to list the best 20 players in the league.  Vick was the hot name last season, and plenty of people — media, players, and fans alike — were swept away by one of the great redemption stories in football or in any other sport.  Though his performance dipped a bit down the stretch (possibly because he was starting to become complacent again), his full body of work for the season, his ability to reclaim his career after two years in prison, and the vague hope that the best is still to come could cause him to land higher on the list than he should.

That said, he fairly should land at No. 5 or No. 6, given the star power (and Super Bowl rings) possessed by Brady, Brees, Manning, and Rodgers.  After last night’s show, which unveiled No. 30 through 21, we know that Vick will at least be the No. 5 quarterback on the list, given that Rivers came in at No. 26 overall.

On one of the next two Sundays, we’ll find out whether Vick is the fifth, fourth, third, second, or even first quarterback on the list.  Each new episode debuts at 8:00 p.m. ET on NFL Network.

Until then, share your own views on where Vick fits in our latest PFT poll.

56 responses to “Vick’s placement on Top 100 list remains to be seen

  1. Well obviously he’s not at 1 or 2, those belong to Brady and Rodgers. Number 3 would be reasonable enough, though. He had an outstanding, and completely unexpected, season.

  2. Choke away playoff game at home: CHECK
    Throw crucial 4th QTR INT in Playoffs: CHECK
    Missed games due to injury: CHECK
    Spectacular games against weak opponents (Jags, Skins, Lions): CHECK
    Get Stripped, Sacked, Scooped, and Scored on during Tuesday Night Football: CHECK

    I’d say Mike Vick belongs one peg above Jason Campbell.

    Also, Mike Vick is almost as over rated as Nnamdi. I hope the both become team mates.

  3. “possibly because he was starting to become complacent again”……had to get in that shot. No matter what the Vick story is about, PFT always finds a way to do a take away. This one came earlier then most, the usual is the last paragraph. Stop it. It makes you look small and petty.

  4. We know Rodgers is 11th as that news broke a while ago. (Google Aaron Rodgers, nfl top 100). Vick was certainly not better than Rodgers last season, so hopefully they got it right and ranked him accordingly.

  5. beastofeden = wow, did you forget that amazing 4th quarter against the Giants who at one time was the #1 ranked defense in the league and who has without a dout the most athletic Dline int he league? He rushed for over 100 yards and passed for about 200 yards against them all in the 4th quarter alone for god sakes!!! That’s what you call putting the team on his back!!!

    And NO Rodgers was not better then Vick last year, the only person who was better then Vick was Brady and even that can get dicey when you look at the fact that Vick had more total yards forced per game (running and passing) then Brady in games played (start to finish).

    I agree that Vick should def be 5th or 6th best quarterback but last I checked its top 100 “PLAYERS” not PASSERS. And Vick does bring allot more to the table then just his arm.

    I also love how everyone rags on this list. Do you play the game? Do you guys in the media and the fans at home actually line up across these guys and play against them head to head? So STFU please with your over-rated opinions like only yours counts. I think I will take any list that the players make over any fans or media list!!!

    Obviously Vick made the Eagles (at one point) the NFLs #1 offense (ended up being #2 because they didn’t play starters in final games). Hate all you want you idiots… Only makes you look bad…

  6. staff2cj4td says:Jun 20, 2011 6:41 PM

    THIS GUY IS AN ABSOLUTE TURD!!!

    WAY TO OVERHYPE ANOTHER DOUCHE BAG SOCIAL MEDIA!!

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    This is not a list of saints or who you would want your son to immulate. This is a list of todays football players. Love him or hate him, he’s playing at a high level right now. I would rate him at about a 4 right now.

  7. 4,700 + passing yards, bunch of TDs, with no name wide recievers. Played all 16 games, consistent.

    or

    That guy that scrambled alot and had a good game or two.

  8. beastofeden, you’re nothing but a hater.. “Choked away a playoff game”? Are you serious? What kind of crack are you smoking? I understand that your love for your toy poodle has you upset that Michael Vick is playing better football than anyone not named Tom Brady, but get real. Don’t make yourself look like an uninformed jackass that doesn’t really watch football at all. Saying things like “one peg above Jason Cambell” not only proves that you’re a friggin moron, it also proves that you need to raise your hand before you speak next time or post on another topic.

  9. “And NO Rodgers was not better then Vick last year.”

    You watch any games last year?
    27 – 20
    21 – 16

    Rodgers also sliced up The falcons/giants/cowboys/vikings/steelers on his way to winning the superbowl.

    vick sliced up …. the redskins?
    Then got owned by the Packers/Vikings/Bears…

  10. fonetiklee says: Jun 20, 2011 6:32 PM

    Well obviously he’s not at 1 or 2, those belong to Brady and Rodgers.
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    Rodgers is not number 2…you’re delusional if you think that.

  11. I’m sorry, but Vick is more hype than substance. Sure, he’s fun to watch, same as he ever was. I don’t care if he had his best season as a QB last year, he’s basically a glorified wildcat qb, same as he ever was.

  12. 504in860 says:
    Jun 20, 2011 7:18 PM
    fonetiklee says: Jun 20, 2011 6:32 PM

    Well obviously he’s not at 1 or 2, those belong to Brady and Rodgers.
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    Rodgers is not number 2…you’re delusional if you think that.
    …………………………………………….

    Do you seriously believe Rodgers is better then Brady??

    That must be some Kool-aid!

  13. beastofeden, you’re nothing but a hater.. “Choked away a playoff game”? Are you serious? What kind of crack are you smoking?

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    Down 21-16, first and 10 on the Packers’ 27 yard line, 44 seconds left. His OL gives you a nice pocket and there’s no pressure, he decides to throw to a WR that’s covered inside, and he throws it inside. Yeah, I’d say he choked it away. You’d definitely be saying that Romo choked that one away if it were him.

  14. Don’t mean this as insulting to Vick, but I’d completely forgotten about him. And since I’m sure he’s on the list, that means more than a third of the QBs who made the list are in the top 20. Interesting.

    Anyone notice James Harrison’s extensive highlight reel last night? A lot of nice wrap-up tackles and no head shots. Imagine that.

  15. I just feel bad for all the players who didn’t make the list who will now be drowned and electrocuted.

  16. Vick will come back to earth this season, much like Favre last year.

    It’s called regression to the mean. And it’s a b*tch.

  17. The players are wildly inconsistent in their voting. The list is best players of 2011, but guys like McNabb made it on the list for career accomplishments. I don’t get it. If you’re solely basing it off 2011, Vick would be 3rd behind Brady and Rodgers. I think that’s probably where he’ll end up because he was a hot name last year and his surprise season got a lot of players’ attention. But if they flip flop between 2011 and career accomplishments he will end up 5th. It will be interesting to see what the players thought of Vick’s surprising season

  18. I’m not even going to cast a vote, because I don’t think he should be on that list at all.

    And anyone who thinks Vick is better than Peyton Manning is living in a fantasy world. Get real.

    Vick had a decent year. It was his first decent year of a long career, and suddenly people think he’s great?

    Let me tell you something the NFC South knows well…Vick sucked before the dogs, and he will always suck. He will do nowhere near as well in the future as he did last year.

    I can think of several QBs that have been in the league less than 5 years that are better.

  19. Vick is probably my favorite player, but I would rank them (putting last season’s performance into heavy account, because normally I would put Manning at #1):

    1. Rodgers
    2. Manning
    3. Brady
    4. Brees
    5. Vick

    I do think it’s arguable that Rivers is better than Vick, but that’s another argument.

  20. If Michael Vick is ranked ahead of Super Bowl MVP Aaron Rodgers, the entire list will be a mockery. Vick is 5th best QB in the league, at best. One good season doesn’t mean he is the best QB in the league either.

  21. “And NO Rodgers was not better then Vick last year, the only person who was better then Vick was Brady and even that can get dicey when you look at the fact that Vick had more total yards forced per game (running and passing) then Brady in games played (start to finish).”

    Wow dude you are a joke for saying Vick is better than Rodgers. You are even a bigger joke for comparing Vick to Brady. Vick doesn’t even come close to being as good as Rodgers better yet Brady. Like I said earlier, it is really annoying how people like you automatically tag Vick to be the best QB in the league after one year. Sorry but other than the game against Washington and New York, he didn’t have that great of year.

  22. Why does the media continue to feel compelled put this psycho/socio pathic wack job on a pedestal? The only top 100 list he should be on is #1 on the list of seriously mentally ill people allowed to walk around free.

    It’s sickening.

  23. It’s so funny that there still can’t be a post on this site without commenters using the word “dog” at some point. Every post I read about Vick, it never fails (CTRL+F > “dog”, if you want to try for yourselves – too funny).

  24. Vick made huge strides last year as a passer, there is no doubt about that. I would however be reluctant to place him above Rodgers, Manning, Brady, or Brees. It is supposed to be a 2010 list, but lets be realistic; the players have in almost every instance referenced the players body of work. Despite Manning having a down year, he will not be out of the top 5. We know that Aaron Rodgers is #11 from the preview show. I would put Vick and Brees in the 11-20 range with Brady #1. Let’s not pencil QBs into all the top spots. We still have quite a few outstanding players yet to be named!

  25. Do you seriously believe Rodgers is better then Brady??

    That must be some Kool-aid!
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    Umm…no. He’s no higher than 4th best is what I mean.

  26. The #1 quarter back for 2011 should be the one that finished #1, Rodgers. Plain and simple. Vick didn’t win anything last year so rate him accordingly. Vick ahead of Rivers makes sense cause who took there team further? Seems like that should be the way but look where they rated Rothlisberger, ridiculous. Popularity contest is all it is.

  27. People dog Vick (pun intended) but check the rest of the list. I’d say it was close with Rodgers but check the record. Rodgers put up big numbers in sometimes losing efforts. Vick won games and he won them big yea he had one bad game in the playoffs but he had the better season.

    Brees was horrible this year. If you watch the games he lost against the Browns and Cards and Seahawks you’d see.

    Rivers should be behind Vick because of the Special Teams.

    Manning only good season he had was when he had to. He lost early and had to win late. He didn’t have a good SEASON.

    Brady has to be #1 with Vick a close second.

    He’s a freak of an athlete and had an amazing SEASON. People need to stop reflecting on his Dog days and focus on the field because that is what this countdown is about.

  28. I believe that I can successfully predict the rest of the nfl “top 100” – though not in any particular order.

    20. Nick Collins
    19. Nnamdi Asomugha
    18. Ray Lewis
    17. Julius Peppers
    16. Ed Reed
    15. Dwight Freeney
    14. Chris Johnson
    13. Charles Woodson
    12. DeMarcus Ware
    11. Clay Matthews
    10. Darrelle Revis
    9. Troy Polamalu
    8. Adrian Peterson
    7. Larry Fitzgerald
    6. Andre Johnson
    5. Michael Vick
    4. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Drew Brees
    2. Peyton Manning
    1. Tom Brady

  29. LOL OK the two that actually tried to use my post and diss me just made themselfs look stupid. Time to get schooled…

    When I said that “No Rodgers was NOT better then Vick last year” someone replied…

    “You watch any games last year?
    27 – 20
    21 – 16”

    Hmmm that seems like a team accomplishment if you ask me does it not? Like Vick is the only one on the team. Like it was really just Vick vs Rodgers an no other player or play mattered right? What an idiot. If you really want to go there then I’ll school you. In week 1 Vick had more yards passing then Rodgers did and Vick only played the 2nd half…lol (Oh I didnt count his 100+ yards rushing in that game either did I?) The Eagles had more total yards of offense then the Packers in both games they played (week 1 and WC round) and thats all Vick can control is offense. Eagles D just sucked last year.

    And to packerbacker12…

    So you think I know nothing of football? Really? Seems like you don’t know how to read. I said Vick was indeed better then Rodgers last year. Did you get it that time “LAST YEAR”. I don’t look at superbowls (that’s a team accomplishment and it drives me crazy when they use that to measure players). Packers had the more complete team (offense and defense). But when Vick finished 2nd behind Tom Brady for MVP (and Rodgers wasn’t even in the discussion) then yes Vick did better then Rodgers LAST YEAR!!!. Still have a problem with that statement? And Vick actually was responsible for more total yards per game started and finished then Brady last year. Nobody looked at that though, they just compared passer numbers…lol But its whatever. Point is Vick was “at least” the 2nd best QB last year. And it just so happened to be his first year starting after getting out of prison and getting with the QB guru (Marty Morninweg). So I tend to think its not by chance. Therefor I think that is the Vick we will see more of. And to think that offense Vick was running was tailor made for Kevin Kolb (Ried didn’t have time to install a better fit offense for Vick). There is plenty of reasons to think that Vick will be even better in the coming year or two…

    AND TO THE VICK HATERS…

    Seriously, your trying to get your point across to make everyone know that you HATE vick. Yet all your doing is making us hate you and like Vick more. So seriously your plans are backfiring. Its psychology you idiots. The opposit of what you want to happen is happening. Your making more people take Vick’s side because your proving just how wrong people can be, just how far people will cross that line in hatred. Do yourself and us a favor. If you do not like Vick (that’s your right, bible says to forgive but still if you don’t want to that’s your right). But when you start to publicly bash someone that’s when you cross the line. ..

    We “CAN” judge (have the ability) but that doesn’t mean we have the right. Only God shall judge… Because ye who judge shall be judged and I’m sure we have all done things that we regret.

    IN LAMON TERMS…

    SHUT THE “F” UP YOU HATERS!!!

  30. I’m sorry, I thought this was a list of the top 100 players, not the most exciting to watch.

    He’s not as good as:

    Brady
    Brees
    Manning
    Rivers
    Rodgers
    Rothlisberger.

    I’m perfectly happy to revisit this conversation and my opinion if he has another season or two like this one.

  31. I really believe it could be Brady, Rodgers, Vick in positions 1, 2, and 3 respectively.

    The list is pretty bad though, so don’t read too much into it.

  32. Ok, this list is about last years best players……no brainer……Rodgers #1 with Clay Matthews #2 based on last years play

  33. honestly everybody should give vick his credit everybody keeps saying oh he one good year and now he’s great and oh he threw away the playoff game and all tht bs well maybe you nitwits should watch football more because if ya’ll did you’s would know that kolb would have put up no where near the numbers tht vick did ! kolb wouldnt have taken us futher and damn sure wouldnt have made tht team tht much better like vick did! and anybody tht thinks vick did have a great season is retarded he still had one of the best passer rating her had good numbers for passing yards and good rushig yards and still miss 4 game ya’ll need to take all that in to consideration ! and ya’ll keep saying tht this person should be here tht person should there but this is not expert’s making the list its the NFL PLAYERS top 100 and if thts how they want to make it vick should top five he made our team excel and made our player play better he made our team wat is was last year nobody else he brong tht leadership! so everybody should think before they speak cause your speaking out your ass !

  34. We “CAN” judge (have the ability) but that doesn’t mean we have the right. Only God shall judge… Because ye who judge shall be judged and I’m sure we have all done things that we regret.

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    In other words, you’re judging everybody.

  35. What evidence is there that Vick “became complacent” at the end of the year?

    His offensive line was suspect all year, but never worse than in the last part of the season. But despite that, Vick was one play away from beating the future Super Bowl champs in the playoffs.

  36. the 5 best qbs, 1) tom, 2) aaron, 3) peyton, 4) drew, 5) vick… you can flip 2-4 however but no way any of them are better than tom, and none of them are worse than vick.

  37. o0omorriso0o,
    You’re talking 2nd place for regular season MVP? I’ll take Super Bowl MVP all day. And no, Vick most definitely did not have a better season than Rodgers. Sad though, you just made it glaringly obvious your team has never won anything. Nice try.

  38. o0omorriso0o says:
    Jun 21, 2011 2:48 AM

    We “CAN” judge (have the ability) but that doesn’t mean we have the right. Only God shall judge… Because ye who judge shall be judged and I’m sure we have all done things that we regret.

    IN LAMON TERMS…

    SHUT THE “F” UP YOU HATERS!!!
    ________________________________
    No offense but to me, this argument doesn’t hold any water and reeks of strawman fumes. If we didn’t have the “right to judge anyone” we couldn’t hire and fire them either. Same goes for marrying, dating divorcing, representing us in business deals or in court, doing our taxes etc.

    I don’t think it’s plausible to say “people have all done things they regret” and compare it to someone’s actions who is a convicted criminal.
    You cussed your boss out once and got fired! You regretted it! You are just like Vick so you can’t be disgusted by his offenses!!!!!!!!11!1! Come on now.

  39. Vick is pond scum, and his pond should be drained.
    The man is an embarrassment to everything decent left in the world. He may be the anti-Christ.
    I’m not too fond of the creep…

  40. If the Dawg Killa has the right to play in the NFL, then I and everyeone else have to right to say what we think of him. If he doesn’t want people talking about him or expressing their opinion of him……then he should GTFO!

  41. “And Vick actually was responsible for more total yards per game started and finished then Brady last year. Nobody looked at that though, they just compared passer numbers…lol”

    I wonder why they just compare passer numbers. Maybe it’s because they’re quarterbacks? Sorry but the only reason why Vick has more yards per game than Brady is because Vick is a running QB. Brady is a pocket QB. So basically that argument is pointless.

  42. “he still had one of the best passer rating her had good numbers for passing yards and good rushig yards and still miss 4 game”

    And do you know who had the best passer rating? Aaron Rodgers.

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