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A look at Terrelle Pryor’s session with Ochocinco

Terrelle Pryor, Drew Rosenhaus AP

Former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor has been throwing to Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco as part of Pryor’s preparation for the supplemental draft, and some footage from those workouts has made its way to YouTube.

The throwing sessions, which also include Steelers receiver Antonio Brown, have been arranged by Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for all three players. Obviously, Rosenhaus isn’t going to let footage of Pryor’s bad throws get out, so the video that’s been released won’t tell us a whole lot.

But it’s still interesting to see how Pryor looks when dropping back and throwing to NFL receivers. The video is below, and it’s worth a look:

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  1. hobartbaker says: Jun 22, 2011 6:07 PM

    Arm looks strong, but his release is bit strange. Almost like Vince Young. Has a bit of that same dart thrower look about it.

  2. coleman121280 says: Jun 22, 2011 6:15 PM

    horrible feet. and i agree that the release is wierd, almost to hesitant in his own instinct. too much to fix here on this project unless its 5thr rd or better. Look at a guy like chrisitain ponder and that foot work plus release to this example.

    it’s obvious why he isn’t a first rounder.

  3. pacificamjr says: Jun 22, 2011 6:17 PM

    on any kind of speed route you notice those wr’s slow down to catch his balls

  4. dirtdawg55 says: Jun 22, 2011 6:18 PM

    First throw was on inside shoulder on an out pattern. Not good. Much easier for the defender to move inside and make the pick, never mind putting the receiver in a tough spot to receive a hit even if the ball is caught.

    Had a couple of others smiler to that.

    If this is the best he has, it tells you something. A lot of grade B athletes can make those throws, with no pressure, no defender on the receiver. Doesn’t say a lot … Certainly nothing positive.

  5. harmcityhomer says: Jun 22, 2011 6:19 PM

    Pretty quick release and the throws on the video look accurate and on time.

    I think he is as good of a prospect as any of the QBs in the past draft. That does not mean he will be a 1st round pick, but should be about the same 50/50 gamble where ever he goes.

  6. dogsweat1 says: Jun 22, 2011 6:25 PM

    Pryor and Johnson= Los Angeles Raiders 2012!

  7. brasho says: Jun 22, 2011 6:27 PM

    His feet are not horrible. There was only one case of him overstriding in what I saw.

    His release is a tad strange in the fact that he doesn’ drop the ball below shoulder level but he releases it so high that it comes out like a javelin. Ideally, a QB will release it over the top by the ear. He seems to be so far over the top that it affects his release. It looks easier to correct than Tebow’s drop down.

    He is absolutely not like Vince Young in the fact that Young pushes the ball sidearm (at times) while Pryor is almost throwing skyhooks. I think as far as QB works go, he looked ok.

    As for looking at Christian Ponder… blah blah blah… Pryor’s got a much stronger arm, a lot better size, faster, and more successful at the collegiate level.

    Ponder has good footwork and release, but his arm is popgun at best and his frame is not very big, nor has he been sturdy during his career. He absolutely was not 1st round caliber.

    If Pryor had come out during the regular draft he likely would have been selected in the 1st three rounds.

  8. jbpanthers says: Jun 22, 2011 6:30 PM

    Let’s see what he looks like with an NFL defense in his face.

  9. jebdamone says: Jun 22, 2011 6:31 PM

    i didn’t think his throwing motion and release looked too bad but he does tend to ‘push’ the ball. his footwork leaves much to be desired.

  10. hobartbaker says: Jun 22, 2011 6:33 PM

    Terrelle was advised to hire a guru to help polish his passing skills.

    He did that, but all Mohottatah Prishidittyyy Mommamommapappapappaaa would say was, “If the pass was meant to be complete, my son, it would be complete. Do not question destiny.”. Then he would go back to reading the book he was holding with his toes.

  11. geniusesq says: Jun 22, 2011 6:41 PM

    Good throwing motion. Good accuracy albeit against AIR. Footwork is a little choppy for such a large guy. Overall though, he looks more like a QB than a WR.

  12. romoscollarbone says: Jun 22, 2011 6:42 PM

    Footwork is shaky.
    IDK how he throws a deep ball with that shot-put release.

    Worth a late RD pick on a team that can give him a change of pace package and let him develop a bit.

    I’d imagine a good QB coach could fix him up. You gotta think, in HS he prob ran more than he threw and at OSU he made his throws, but the college game is a different animal as we all know.

    He’s still relatively raw, I’ve never met him, so IDK how sharp he is. I can’t blame the kid for taking all the perks every other big school’s guys get. There were much worse prospects drafted this year, some one will take a flier on him.

  13. geniusesq says: Jun 22, 2011 6:43 PM

    You would like to see a QB of his size get at least 6-7 yards deep on a 5 step drop. He could work on opening his stride wider and more smoothly consistently. He did it a few times, others he didn’t.

  14. geniusesq says: Jun 22, 2011 6:45 PM

    For example, the drop he takes at 0:25 looks good. The others are choppy and he’s shifting his weight between back and front foot when throwing, instead of planting and delivering off of the front.

  15. maddog111 says: Jun 22, 2011 6:53 PM

    The best part of this is reading the posts from all the arm-chair Mayock’s in here breaking down the tape.

  16. duanethomas says: Jun 22, 2011 6:54 PM

    Uncle Rico # 2

    Vince Young is # 1

  17. readysethike says: Jun 22, 2011 7:03 PM

    some of you guys sound like real experts :rolls eyes:

  18. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Jun 22, 2011 7:24 PM

    I was a pretty decent HS QB about 15 years ago and could throw it about 60-65 yards back then. I can STILL make all those throws he just did. Those were not tough throws. Really no deep throws. Where were the deep corner routes, or deep posts? Can he turn his back to a defense and still pick it up when he turns around? Can he even read defenses(past one read throws)? The video doesn’t say much. That’s for sure.

  19. berniemadoffsides says: Jun 22, 2011 7:32 PM

    Raider.

  20. chipwade says: Jun 22, 2011 7:49 PM

    He was planning on returning for his senior year which would have helped him tremendously. He was a far better college passer than Jake Locker. I don’t think any teams will take him high in sup draft. But I think he is talented enough play QB in the NFL.

    He is pretty much the poor man’s Vince Young, so any team that was considering trading for Young should save the pick and go with Pryor.

  21. lostsok says: Jun 22, 2011 7:51 PM

    Inconsistent mechanics, but arm is better looking than I’d anticipate.

    Still…the video does nothing to alleviate fears about his decision making…both on and off the field.

    Clearly, “The” Ohio State “University” makes the development of character and integrity as optional as actual schoolwork.

  22. chipwade says: Jun 22, 2011 7:52 PM

    (response to my own FAIL)
    It would cost them a pick in the sup draft :/

  23. wtfchiefs says: Jun 22, 2011 7:57 PM

    That video shows absolutely nothing

    ……’CAUSE THERE’S NO DEFENSE!!!!

    All division I QB’s could do this exact same workout BFD

  24. captainwisdom8888 says: Jun 22, 2011 8:09 PM

    Terrell Pryor quarterbacking an NFL team? Child please…

  25. Spencer says: Jun 22, 2011 8:16 PM

    No worse looking than Cam Newton, really. For whatever that’s worth.

  26. godofwine330 says: Jun 22, 2011 8:24 PM

    Even being an Ohio State fan I don’t see this kid drafted in the first 2 rounds. I didn’t say first three because, well, you know…the Raiders are still out there. Since the Raiders don’t have a 4th round pick, it is widely assumed that the Raiders may select him in the 3rd round.

    His footwork has always been horrible. His release is weird, and not in a good way. He seems to shot put the ball instead of throwing it. He needs a coach, and he needs Drew Rosenhaus to force him to listen to the coach. I believe picking him with a first 3 round pick may give this kid the idea that he doesn’t have to work hard, the same mentality that made him only an average QB at Ohio State. He won, but many times they won in spite of his play, not because of it. The name Omar Jacobs comes to mind, though Jacobs was a better passer than Pryor is right now. Jacobs didn’t make it in the league either. One of the rare Steelers misses.

  27. fonetiklee says: Jun 22, 2011 8:40 PM

    Ochocinco’s shirt says “You are a non f’n factor bitch.” It made me laugh.

  28. juanepsteinsmother says: Jun 22, 2011 8:48 PM

    You can really tell who the Buckeye Homers are.

    Four letters describe this guy – B.U.S.T.

  29. coleman121280 says: Jun 22, 2011 9:05 PM

    brasho says: Jun 22, 2011 6:27 PM

    His feet are not horrible. There was only one case of him overstriding

    ——————————————————

    Are you serious? his feet are as bad as his academic effort in a school willing to bend over backwards for him….

    As far as your notion that Christian Ponder was not as succesful as TP in college and not worth the 1st rd selection lets take a look at the facts.

    Ponder finished w/a bachelor and master degree.

    TP got a nice tattoo and suspended.

    When will people realize that athlete option running jersey selling tatoo bargaining QB’s w/ speed just wont get it done. Their decisions in private life will mimic those on the football field.

  30. sportsandtv says: Jun 22, 2011 9:14 PM

    I don’t think you can judge him the same way you judge a pure pocket passer.

    To me I would rather have him with a 4th or 5th round pick then using the 1st overall pick on Newton. The risk with both those guys are pretty similar if you ask me.

    Pryor ran such a boring offense in college.

  31. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Jun 22, 2011 9:21 PM

    Following in the foot-steps of JaMarcus. Pryor is primed to be the NFL’s next “great playaaa”. Just ask “Coach” Davis…….

    Instead of Ochocinco. Drew Rosenhaus should have gotten dhBUST. That way the QB who can’t throw would be paired with a WR who can’t catch…..

  32. billsfan1 says: Jun 22, 2011 9:27 PM

    I’ve never liked these crappy displays….he has trained his ass off to throw in these conditions….a better sample would be to look at the game tape…when wr have to cut off their routes or u have Ryan kerrigan hauling ass after u…oh and ur first 2 options can’t get open….that’s a much better test then this sandlot crap all qbs seem to go through…..how bout we see a video of him diagnosing plays on the chalkboard

  33. 00reo says: Jun 22, 2011 9:58 PM

    Useless since they cut it and didn’t show the whole workout. Anyone can look good in highlights.

  34. watters7 says: Jun 22, 2011 10:00 PM

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  35. terminatorlikesmaids says: Jun 22, 2011 10:06 PM

    Why are all of these NFL Scouts giving reports here on this lame PFT blog. Oh, this is fantasy scouts 2011? Ha, You guys make me laugh.

  36. terminatorlikesmaids says: Jun 22, 2011 10:09 PM

    Please get real football back in the news.

  37. miguelito65 says: Jun 22, 2011 10:17 PM

    It amazes me how many of you believe that just because you post regularly on a this message board that it somehow qualifies you morons to be NFL scouts! Take a step back and look at just how ridiculous your comments are… Needs better footwork, his release is awkward, blah, blah, blah. You geniuses ought to seek a position on the Cincy bungals scout squad, because that’s all you’re qualified to do. Pathetic, really pathetic.

  38. terminatorlikesmaids says: Jun 22, 2011 10:26 PM

    Hey, why do you have to dis the bungals…I mean bengals? I am sure they have a scouting department. On second thought…………….

  39. dutchman1350 says: Jun 22, 2011 10:28 PM

    His two best games were bowl games…a month of repetitions, with scripted plays. He struggled with more complex routes, staring down receivers. JT simplified the playbook where it was first read, and if not open, run.

  40. d3murf says: Jun 22, 2011 11:02 PM

    Terrelle Pryor is receiving Hate similar to his buddy LeBron James. I wish more people would judge players with their own eyes instead of letting others think for them. (Well this is America–land of Sheep) The Sugar Bowl last yr–showed that Terrelle Pryor has some sort of talent at the QB position.
    He gave Arkansas all it could handle. He made some throws in tight windows. He threw some receivers open. Had touch on the deep ball. Looked real getting out of the pocket. Being 31-4 as starter and throwing 27 td’s to 11 int’s in the Big 10 when teams are scheming directly for you–should atleast earn you a shot at making a roster as a 3rd stringer or something. Hell even Rusty Smith started a game for Titans. Dan Orlovsky started for the lions. He’s easily as talented than those guys. Once Pryor matures mentally–from being the most hyped guy ever–he might be serviceable.
    Why not point out what he does-and not what he doesn’t? I’ve seen Pryor take the snap from center 37483 x’s. Seen him do play-action and turning his back to the Defense. I’ve seen some nice ball-handling etc. A Good Coach can bring out the rest.
    Terrelle Pryor is receiving Hate similar to his buddy LeBron James. I wish more people would judge players with their own eyes instead of letting others think for them. (Well this is America–land of Sheep) The Sugar Bowl last yr–showed that Terrelle Pryor has some sort of talent at the QB position.
    He gave Arkansas all it could handle. He made some throws in tight windows. He threw some receivers open. Had touch on the deep ball. Looked real getting out of the pocket. Being 31-4 as starter and throwing 27 td’s to 11 int’s in the Big 10 when teams are scheming directly for you–should atleast earn you a shot at making a roster as a 3rd stringer or something. Hell even Rusty Smith started a game for Titans. Dan Orlovsky started for the lions. He’s easily as talented than those guys. Once Pryor matures mentally–from being the most hyped guy ever–he might be serviceable.
    Why not point out what he does-and not what he doesn’t? I’ve seen Pryor take the snap from center 37483 x’s. Seen him do play-action and turning his back to the Defense. I’ve seen some nice ball-handling etc. A Good Coach can bring out the rest.

    As for this Vid–it looks just like every other 1 on 1 throwing session. Newton took Snaps out of the Gun 99% of the time. Offense was extremely simple. Half Field reads etc. Pryor played in a Play-Action based Pro Set Offense. You people did watch these past 3 yrs? Don’t write the kid off so quick, yet give guys like Brock Berlin a chance…

  41. innerlign says: Jun 22, 2011 11:20 PM

    @Miguelito65
    It’s not hard to see how glaring his weaknesses are. Most of the criticisms are dead on. The fact that you don’t need to be a scout to see them makes it all the more credible, in my opinion.

  42. whodeyn832 says: Jun 23, 2011 1:08 AM

    This guy’s mechanics are terrible. His release, footwork(the worst), and accuracy are bush league. Half of those throws would be interceptions in a real game. Rosenhaus must be crazy to think this kid has any chance to get drafted first-round. I feel bad for the qb coach that has to work with this kid. He’s 5th round at best and any of his game film from OSU would prove that.

  43. sharkcatcher says: Jun 23, 2011 1:51 AM

    Mr Al Davis please sign this kid with our #2 pick!

  44. newguy925 says: Jun 23, 2011 2:52 AM

    Feet are awful, strides should be longer, does not plant and set properly to ensure an accurate release point. Taller troy smith.

  45. marcus158 says: Jun 23, 2011 5:34 AM

    Same sh*t, different QB

    All I’m reading here is the exact same stuff that people posted about Tebow and Newton i.e. he’ll bust.

    Give a player a bit more time before passing judgment. Like y’know…base performance on a REGULAR NFL SEASON where he STARTS more than 3 games and not some college game were they throw 5 TD’s and beat some crappy team 48-3 or some meaningless practice session video.

    Not every athletic QB is going to be anothe Pat White or JaMarcus you know. It’s all about development.

  46. jcd213 says: Jun 23, 2011 5:37 AM

    That was a weak video to throw out there, wow. Throwing 10 yard slants to uncovered receivers!

  47. 00reo says: Jun 23, 2011 9:57 AM

    It’s also pretty bad when you can tell which direction he’s going to throw by his footwork. He only crosses his legs on his drop when he throws to the right. He sort of hops/shuffles when he’s going to throw it left.

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