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A.J. Hawk explains why Packers don’t need full-team workouts

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Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk created a bit of a controversy last month when he said player-organized lockout workouts were a “disaster.” Now Hawk has waded into that subject again.

Hawk says that while some teams might need player-organized workouts, the Packers don’t because the key players on the 2011 roster will be the same as the key players on the 2010 roster, and they all already know their playbooks.

We haven’t had any full team workouts. We’ve had small groups of guys here and there working out together,” Hawk said. “The great thing about Green Bay is we’re not banking on having any rookies coming in and play. We’re not putting in any new schemes. For us the main thing is making sure everyone is coming into camp in shape and on time. We have a lot of guys who are accountable and take care of their bodies this whole summer.”

Hawk had wrist surgery in February, but he said he’s completely healthy and will be eager to go full speed whenever training camp starts. Even if he’s not interested in working out as a team before that.

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  1. snccoach says: Jun 23, 2011 7:27 AM

    I don’t need to practice, says the mediocre linebacker. Go figure.

  2. nolahxc says: Jun 23, 2011 7:57 AM

    How come no one ever talks about a superbowl hangover with these guys???

  3. krow101 says: Jun 23, 2011 8:03 AM

    It seems like every team that wins a Superbowl … that no matter how much you might like them … they turn into jerks the very next year.

  4. bradshawlives says: Jun 23, 2011 8:22 AM

    It didn’t take long for complacency to set in.

  5. dmretrogames says: Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM

    That’s going to one whopper of a Super Bowl hangover. Perhaps they realized that eeking by Chicago’s 9th string QB and a decimated Pittsburgh roster was a one in a million lottery shot that wouldn’t be repeated. May as well live it up and admire the rings.

  6. hodag54501 says: Jun 23, 2011 8:32 AM

    Mediocre? Really?
    Last time I checked he was the season-long starter on the Super Bowl champion.

    There are many linebackers who you think might be better, but they ain’t wearin’ the ring, correct?

  7. duanethomas says: Jun 23, 2011 8:42 AM

    They….need…to…prac-tice to get bet–ter and..to re-peat as champ-pi-ons.
    Teddy Bruschi

  8. ny82jy says: Jun 23, 2011 8:52 AM

    Just another reason why they wont be repeating. Its hard enough for teams to repeat in the NFL cause they get complacent and they dont have the same drive the following season. That is exactly what this sounds like to me. The Packers will get knocked off by someone. Other teams have been working hard for weeks now trying to prepare and get in shape. I guess Hawk thinks thats not important.

  9. scoops1 says: Jun 23, 2011 8:58 AM

    dmretrogames says:
    Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM
    That’s going to one whopper of a Super Bowl hangover. Perhaps they realized that eeking by Chicago’s 9th string QB and a decimated Pittsburgh roster was a one in a million lottery shot that wouldn’t be repeated. May as well live it up and admire the rings.
    ———————————–

    what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in reading PFT is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  10. goawayeverybody says: Jun 23, 2011 9:08 AM

    As someone who really likes the Packers, I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it’s true that they will have continuity of personnel and staff and so the workouts might not be as crucial for them as they would be for, say, the Carolina Panthers.

    On the other hand I’m a little worried that a lackadaisical attitude has creeped into the Packers as a whole. It’s not just the workouts, it’s also Aaron Rodgers’ record label and in addition to that, the idea that this is what often happens to teams that have just won the Super Bowl.

  11. backdapack says: Jun 23, 2011 9:24 AM

    Hawk says that while some teams might need player-organized workouts, the Packers don’t because the key players on the 2011 roster will be the same as the key players on the 2010 roster, and they all already know their playbooks.

    I don’t see any quotations here….do you? This is a slimy reporter, reporting what he thinks Hawk is saying.

    “We haven’t had any full team workouts. We’ve had small groups of guys here and there working out together,” Hawk said. “The great thing about Green Bay is we’re not banking on having any rookies coming in and play. We’re not putting in any new schemes. For us the main thing is making sure everyone is coming into camp in shape and on time. We have a lot of guys who are accountable and take care of their bodies this whole summer.”

    This is a quote and I don’t believe anyone can argue with what he is actually saying.

    GO PACK!!!!!!!

  12. joetoronto says: Jun 23, 2011 9:28 AM

    What he said can only be interpreted as complacency.

    It’s not hating, it’s the truth.

    It’s what happens to every Super Bowl winner nowadays.

  13. backdapack says: Jun 23, 2011 9:28 AM

    “The most the defense can do when we get together is seven-on-seven. I can understand quarterbacks throwing to receivers and stuff like that. I think it’s more of a camaraderie thing. . . . We’re all ready to come back. We never got out of shape. The player gatherings are a good thing to get together and be with your teammates – that’s the most I would take from it.”

    Here is another quote from Hawk…..can anyone really argue with this?

    GO PACK!!!!!!

  14. minnesconsin says: Jun 23, 2011 9:32 AM

    all this talk about super bowl hangover is just that — talk. means nothing.

    that said, even as a packers fan who doesn’t like the idea of organized player-only workouts, AJ sounds like an idiot here. There will *absolutely* be rookies who are counted on to make contributions this year.

    James Jones and Brandon Jackson are likely gone, so Randall Cobb and the new RB from Hawaii would probably benefit from learning a thing or two from their new teammates. Chad Clifton is an old dude. Had a great season last year, but all it takes is one injury and Derek Sherrod is a starting LT.

  15. jimmysee says: Jun 23, 2011 9:35 AM

    snccoach says:

    Jun 23, 2011 7:27 AM
    I don’t need to practice, says the mediocre linebacker. Go figure.

    ————————————————————–

    Excuse me — did you mean:

    “I don’t need to practice, says the Super Bowl winning linebacker. Go figure.”

    So called “organized team practices” are the equivalent of calculus class taught by a substitute teacher or fellow student. It’s babysitting, not practice.

  16. calloustongue says: Jun 23, 2011 9:35 AM

    Yeah I’m sure these player organized workouts are going to mean playoffs for any team that does them and an 0-16 season for teams that don’t.

    These aren’t practices. These get togethers are just a placation for the oversensationalized media fixation on the lockout and what bored journalists think players should be doing. No one even knows when the lockout is going to end, just pure speculation. Until training camp is missed, I’m not worried one bit the Packers aren’t buying into this joke.

    The Packers will be just fine and talk of a Superbowl hangover before they’ve even played a game is asinine.

    Rest only helps this team loaded with depth and solid veterans. Superbowl hangovers happen b/c the team has to rush players back that were playing into February. You know, unlike so many of the teams that have their bitter fans commenting here like they know something. Sour grapes?

  17. virger says: Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM

    good morning, haters! yeah, if you read the headline it sounds kind of arrogant, if you read the article, it sounds kind of realistic…

  18. myeaglescantwin says: Jun 23, 2011 9:52 AM

    AJ hawk.. not a bust.. definite underachiever

    “we talkin bout practice,,, practice”

  19. forthelove says: Jun 23, 2011 9:52 AM

    We can argue the wisdom of his comments all we want, but their record at the end of the season (and it looks like we actually might have a season..) will clearly tell us whether or not he was right.

    “Chicago’s 9th string QB and a decimated Pittsburgh roster.”

    Last time I checked the Packers had a pretty decimated roster, too. Even lost last years defensive MVP in the Superbowl (Woodson). How do the Steelers look any time they don’t have Polamalu. Jus sayin….

  20. contra74 says: Jun 23, 2011 10:22 AM

    virger says:
    Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM
    good morning, haters! yeah, if you read the headline it sounds kind of arrogant, if you read the article, it sounds kind of realistic…
    ————
    Not really. Having played football at the highest collegiate level, having your starters return with knowledge of the playbook is one thing but executing those plays with precise timing is another. What good is a shiny gun if it doesnt hit its target with 100% accuracy? Fact of the matter is that those workouts which Hawk slams is really there to get some tune-ups in before the fine tuning occurs during camp. As of right now, regardless of who you have on your roster and whether or not you are a Super Bowl Champ, the teams that have those workouts are getting better than the Packers.

  21. greenbay4ever says: Jun 23, 2011 10:23 AM

    Yeah it is hard to repeat…but at least we have the chance to.

    Hopefully we get to play the Sea-hawks in the playoffs so we can take an easy route to the NFC championship game.

  22. henrypuppyhead says: Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM

    krow101 says: Jun 23, 2011 8:03 AM

    It seems like every team that wins a Superbowl … that no matter how much you might like them … they turn into jerks the very next year.

    ————————–

    Because a team isn’t doing wind sprints in your living room makes them “jerks”?

    Yeah, what a bunch of scumbags.

  23. virger says: Jun 23, 2011 10:44 AM

    virger says:
    Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM
    good morning, haters! yeah, if you read the headline it sounds kind of arrogant, if you read the article, it sounds kind of realistic…
    ————
    Not really. Having played football at the highest collegiate level, having your starters return with knowledge of the playbook is one thing but executing those plays with precise timing is another. What good is a shiny gun if it doesnt hit its target with 100% accuracy? Fact of the matter is that those workouts which Hawk slams is really there to get some tune-ups in before the fine tuning occurs during camp. As of right now, regardless of who you have on your roster and whether or not you are a Super Bowl Champ, the teams that have those workouts are getting better than the Packers.
    ——-
    we are arguing different points. hawk never says “we don’t need them” or “some teams do, we don’t”. the author of this post does. please read his comments, he never “slams” them, he says he’s heard from other players that they are a disaster. i can’t argue that no practice is better than any practice, that’s foolish, but i can argue with how they present his quotes.

  24. ditkastache says: Jun 23, 2011 10:51 AM

    There is no team called the “Sea-hawks” in the NFL, just the “Seahawks.” Typical Green Bay citizen, just hanging out and being illiterate…oh wait, you’re a Packers fan, in that case you’ve probably never even been to Wisconsin.

    I’m kidding, of course. It’s nice to hear that the Pack aren’t practicing, though. It’ll make this year’s sweep all the more satisfying.

  25. contra74 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:03 AM

    virger says:
    Jun 23, 2011 10:44 AM
    virger says:
    Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM
    good morning, haters! yeah, if you read the headline it sounds kind of arrogant, if you read the article, it sounds kind of realistic…
    ————
    Not really. Having played football at the highest collegiate level, having your starters return with knowledge of the playbook is one thing but executing those plays with precise timing is another. What good is a shiny gun if it doesnt hit its target with 100% accuracy? Fact of the matter is that those workouts which Hawk slams is really there to get some tune-ups in before the fine tuning occurs during camp. As of right now, regardless of who you have on your roster and whether or not you are a Super Bowl Champ, the teams that have those workouts are getting better than the Packers.
    ——-
    we are arguing different points. hawk never says “we don’t need them” or “some teams do, we don’t”. the author of this post does. please read his comments, he never “slams” them, he says he’s heard from other players that they are a disaster. i can’t argue that no practice is better than any practice, that’s foolish, but i can argue with how they present his quotes.
    ——
    Ok I see your point. I might have been arguing against PFT’s “quotes”.

  26. claymath52 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:04 AM

    nolahxc says:
    Jun 23, 2011 7:57 AM
    How come no one ever talks about a superbowl hangover with these guys???

    ______________________________________________________________________

    It’s a valid question. The reason is that the Packers got incredibly hot at the end of the year and won it all in the “against all odds,” type fashion with the injuries, etc. I think the experts see the Packers as a team that has been building a franchise over the years and have won the whole thing maybe a year or two prematurely.

  27. krow101 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    henrypuppyhead says …

    Because a team isn’t doing wind sprints in your living room makes them “jerks”?

    __________

    No. Making arrogant ‘Rex Ryan’ statements makes them jerks. Failure to be bothered by them makes you a fanboy.

  28. t16rich says: Jun 23, 2011 11:22 AM

    does aj hawk talk about when he almost got the part to be in that movie “mask” with cher? he ended up losing the main role to a guy who was just better looking.

  29. 13xworldchamps says: Jun 23, 2011 11:47 AM

    Hawk is as much a work out warrior as there is in the NFL, period. That being said, just because a few guys get together and run a few plays, how is that productive. I don’t know the last time I saw a player coach in the NFL.

    These teams are very stringent with the practice process they go through, drills, one one ones. 7 on 7 and so forth.

    The spotlight is on the Packers for being “The Champs”, so no matter what they do or don’t do as a team the haters will be out in force.

    Now we have super bowl hangover? go figure. we’ll be fine. I’ll stack our roster right now against any in the NFL

  30. duece5 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:48 AM

    It happens to EVERY Super Bowl team…..the compacency, and then the guys that “want their money”. It doesn’t matter where these professional athletes play, it’s just the way of the world in the attitudes that shift once they’ve tasted a little success. You can play in a beautiful area such as San Diego or an armpit like gbay.
    THEY ALL want their money, and repeating comes in a distant second.

    Gbay got hot at the exact right time last year, so they are hardly a dominant force. They haven’t even won a division title under Rodgers. So, the complacency will happen, injuries will happen, attitudes will shift, selfishness will happen, and those that expect a repeat need to look no further than the Colts or Saints that did not repeat……and the COLTS have been dominant for nearly 10 years!!!!

  31. jnbnet says: Jun 23, 2011 11:57 AM

    All the Pack has to do is show up for the games. They know they will win. They don’t even need training camp. They are the best and everyone else will kneel down before them. 19/0 Pack.

  32. thephantomstranger says: Jun 23, 2011 12:06 PM

    Reminds me of last year when the Vikings were returning all 22 starters from a team that was an impossibly stupid play from the Super Bowl. It’s funny how things tend not to go as planned in the NFL.

  33. SpartaChris says: Jun 23, 2011 12:39 PM

    As for team building exercises, the Packers have done those too- Donald Drivers softball game and Greg Jennings golf tournament. Not to mention the ring ceremony last week. There’s been plenty of time for the Packers players to build camaraderie amongst themselves.

  34. smoothjimmyapollo says: Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM

    “They haven’t even won a division title under Rodgers.”

    Who cares? They won a Super Bowl. THE SUPER BOWL! It doesn’t matter how you get into the playoffs. What matters is what you do in the playoffs. The Seahawks won a division title last year at 7-9 – one game better than the last place teams in three other divisions.

    In other words, unless you’re trying to make a championship-free team sound important (right Vikings fans?), then winning your division is meaningless beyond the automatic playoff birth it provides.

    As far as offseason workouts, Hawk is probably right. The best case scenario is that these guys work out together and stay in shape. There’s also the chance that they’re learning bad habits that only a coach would catch. The worst case scenario would be injuries – especially to rookies not yet under contract.

  35. packerfan12 says: Jun 23, 2011 12:55 PM

    Do people forget that the Packers had 7 STARTERS on IR last year? Barnett and Tauscher will probably be gone, but they had Finley one of the best receiving tight ends in the league out, Brad Jones, Morgan Burnett, Mike Neal, and Ryan Grant. Everyone hates the Packers right now for not having team workouts, but they’re still working out individually, to stay in shape….people are making a big deal out of nothing.

    One last thing….I don’t think the Packers “just got hot” I think their back-ups and undrafted free agents started playing well, if you actually watched the Packers this season Charlie Peprah, Frank Zombo, Erik Walden, Desmond Bishop, Sam Shields and James Starks all played well. The Colts used injuries as an excuse, the Packers have depth and I can’t wait to see what they can do next year.

  36. thephantomstranger says: Jun 23, 2011 1:02 PM

    smoothjimmyapollo says:
    Jun 23, 2011 12:44 PM
    “They haven’t even won a division title under Rodgers.”

    Who cares? They won a Super Bowl. THE SUPER BOWL! It doesn’t matter how you get into the playoffs. What matters is what you do in the playoffs. The Seahawks won a division title last year at 7-9 – one game better than the last place teams in three other divisions.
    ____________________

    You sound like Denny Green with that “it doesn’t matter how you get in the playoffs” garbage. Of course it matters. Which team has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl: The 12-4 division champion or the 8-8 wildcard team? Every once in a while a mediocre team will get hot in the playoffs and win the Super Bowl, but it isn’t something you guys should be counting on every year. And yet here you are.

  37. SpartaChris says: Jun 23, 2011 1:12 PM

    LOL at the “Rodgers still never won the division,” argument. Guess what? I’ll trade a division championship for an NFC championship and chance to win the Super Bowl every year.

  38. tangysizzl says: Jun 23, 2011 1:49 PM

    I think its funny all of these players in the NFL talking about how important offseason workouts are when we all know they are trying to do away with most of the minicamps and OTAs in the next labor deal.

    As long as there is time to have training camp and 4 preseason games I think the Pack will be just fine. If not they may struggle more than some of the teams that having been working their ass off together.

    Time will tell I guess but if they do struggle through the season than they only have themselves to blame.

  39. childressrulz says: Jun 23, 2011 1:54 PM

    When you are this good there is no need to practice. Besides player organized practices are going to be crap anyways. So if your team is holding player organized work outs then your team is wasting their time. Players need coaches to push them for the most part.

  40. sleazysnake says: Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM

    It sure is funny to read all the fans of teams other than the Packers with their wishful thinking about complacency.

    The Packers are not complacent. Nor are they satisfied with one ring.

    This team wants to build itself into a Dynasty.

    All you haters just keep on hating, that’s all you’re going to do anyway. In the end it boils down to jealousy.

    The Packers are better than your team.

    The Packers Are Better

  41. smoothjimmyapollo says: Jun 23, 2011 2:02 PM

    @Phantom, as a Viking fan, what would you rather have? A division title or a Lombardi trophy? Do they print off NFC North Championship videos? Do they hold parades for the NFC North champions? Do people fill up a stadium to welcome back division champions? No, because division championships mean nothing if you don’t win a title.

    Would I prefer my team wins their division and gets a bye and an easier playoff schedule? Sure. But sometimes you get the bye, you get an NFC championship game at home, and your 37 year old quarterback looks cold and miserable and throws the game away. Other times your team plays on the road against the 1, 2 and 3 seeds before winning the Super Bowl.

  42. Wisconsin77 says: Jun 23, 2011 2:12 PM

    dmretrogames says: Jun 23, 2011 8:25 AM
    That’s going to one whopper of a Super Bowl hangover. Perhaps they realized that eeking by Chicago’s 9th string QB and a decimated Pittsburgh roster was a one in a million lottery shot that wouldn’t be repeated. May as well live it up and admire the rings.

    Somebody has sour grapes that his r@p1st QB couldn’t bring home the Lombardi Trophy. You do realize that the Packers had more starters on injured reserve than any other Super Bowl winning team in history, right? And I believe that we were already up on Chicago by 14 points when their starter went out.

    Sorry, but your post is what we call an epic fail.

  43. bluestree says: Jun 23, 2011 2:15 PM

    Complacency will not be a problem for the Packers. With all the injured starters and key back ups retuning from IR to a team that won the Lombardi, the competion between positions in camp will be tremendous. Anyone who gets complacent will get run over.
    Then they meet New Orleans in the opener and everyone’s making a big deal about how much Brees has the Saints working out.
    Do you recall what happened to the Saints the last time they took the field, in Seattle? They better work out.
    The real key is whether free agency will go back to four years. That will have everybody scrambling. Advantage Green Bay.

  44. SpartaChris says: Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM

    As someone else pointed out over on the Footballpros site- If you listen to Mark Sanchez’ interview with Rich Eisen, he points out that their workouts have included things like catered lunches and water-balloon tosses. While this doesn’t mean actual working out hasn’t happened, it doesn’t exactly paint the picture of a structured, “Lets get better so we can dominate next season” approach. Put another way, it’s more fun and games and less business.

    Not saying it’s right or wrong, just that it seems people are thinking these player led workouts are more than they really are.

  45. contra74 says: Jun 23, 2011 3:08 PM

    sleazysnake says:
    Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM
    It sure is funny to read all the fans of teams other than the Packers with their wishful thinking about complacency.

    The Packers are not complacent. Nor are they satisfied with one ring.

    This team wants to build itself into a Dynasty.

    All you haters just keep on hating, that’s all you’re going to do anyway. In the end it boils down to jealousy.

    The Packers are better than your team.

    The Packers Are Better
    —————————-
    Hmmm…sounds familiar. Replace “Packers” with “Saints” and you get an idea as to how the general feeling went down last year.

  46. thephantomstranger says: Jun 23, 2011 3:20 PM

    smoothjimmyapollo says:
    Jun 23, 2011 2:02 PM
    @Phantom, as a Viking fan, what would you rather have? A division title or a Lombardi trophy? Do they print off NFC North Championship videos? Do they hold parades for the NFC North champions? Do people fill up a stadium to welcome back division champions? No, because division championships mean nothing if you don’t win a title.

    Would I prefer my team wins their division and gets a bye and an easier playoff schedule? Sure. But sometimes you get the bye, you get an NFC championship game at home, and your 37 year old quarterback looks cold and miserable and throws the game away. Other times your team plays on the road against the 1, 2 and 3 seeds before winning the Super Bowl.
    ______________

    I was just saying that your team is more likely to win the Super Bowl if it has proven itself throughout the season.

    It seems like the Packers aren’t going to have to worry about complacency. Their fans have enough complacency to go around for everyone.

  47. aaronitout says: Jun 23, 2011 3:42 PM

    duece5 says:
    Jun 23, 2011 11:48 AM
    It happens to EVERY Super Bowl team…..the compacency, and then the guys that “want their money”. It doesn’t matter where these professional athletes play, it’s just the way of the world in the attitudes that shift once they’ve tasted a little success. You can play in a beautiful area such as San Diego or an armpit like gbay.
    THEY ALL want their money, and repeating comes in a distant second.

    Gbay got hot at the exact right time last year, so they are hardly a dominant force. They haven’t even won a division title under Rodgers. So, the complacency will happen, injuries will happen, attitudes will shift, selfishness will happen, and those that expect a repeat need to look no further than the Colts or Saints that did not repeat……and the COLTS have been dominant for nearly 10 years!!!!

    ———————————————————

    It is incredibly difficult to repeat in the NFL, everyone knows that. What GB has going for them is the competition that will result from players coming back from IR. Do you think Jermichael Finley and Ryan Grant are satisfied with a ring they had nothing to do with? How bad do you think Aaron Rodgers wants to win the 2nd ring that Favre never could? All the haters are laughable, only time will tell.

    Another thing to think about…Everyone knows Ted Thompson is the most hesitant GM in the league to spend money in free agency but he will pull out the pocket book if he has good reason (Charles Woodson). The weakest position on Green Bay’s roster is left guard. What would happen if Thompson decides to spend big to get Logan Mankins in GB? Green Bay would instantly go from a middle of the road offensive line to the (arguably) best offensive line in the league with the return of a back to back 1200 yard rusher with a chip on his shoulder. Remember Mankins has never won a title in New England. Maybe just a pipe dream but ya never know.

  48. smoothjimmyapollo says: Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM

    phantom, I don’t disagree that you’d rather have the higher seed. My initial point to another commenter was who cares if Aaron Rodgers hasn’t won the division – he won a Super Bowl. I’m sure the Bears would gladly have taken a wild card with a SB trophy over a division crown.

    I guess my greater point is, there are a lot of reasons that the Packers might not win the Super Bowl with the most obvious one being that it’s hard to do. They could have injuries to key players, they could catch a bad call or an unfortunately timed turnover in a playoff game. They could just lose to a team that is better on that day. They will not miss out on a championship because they didn’t all get together on some high school field in June.

  49. thephantomstranger says: Jun 23, 2011 6:11 PM

    @smoothjimmy –

    Agreed, but I have to play the pessimist on packer posts.

  50. supersuckers3 says: Jul 4, 2011 9:34 PM

    It is incredibly difficult to repeat in the NFL, everyone knows that. What GB has going for them is the competition that will result from players coming back from IR. Do you think Jermichael Finley and Ryan Grant are satisfied with a ring they had nothing to do with? How bad do you think Aaron Rodgers wants to win the 2nd ring that Favre never could? All the haters are laughable, only time will tell.


    Well said. This team’s only..and I mean ONLY goal is a three peat..PERIOD. You strive for perfection at your employer. If you do that you can achieve excellence.

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