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Report: Wednesday talks were “very fruitful”

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At a time when the ongoing labor situation is making many of us feel like vegetables, Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Wednesday’s session between the league and the players was “very fruitful.”

Paolantonio also reports that it’s expected the talks will continue until a deal is reached.

Here’s hoping that’s a literal expectation.  Two days per week of face-to-face talks simply won’t get a deal done in time, given NFL general counsel Jeff Pash’s explanation that the lockout won’t be lifted until all documents are drafted and all appropriate judicial blessings are obtained.  In order to make that happen in time for the two teams that open camp on July 22 (Rams and Bears) to have a fair shake at signing free agents who can help from Day One, the process needs to start soon.

How soon?  Frankly, it already needs to be happening.

On that note, we’ll defer further comment or speculation until today’s special non-live edition of PFT Live.

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24 Responses to “Report: Wednesday talks were “very fruitful””
  1. ebenezergrymm says: Jun 23, 2011 11:05 AM

    So the talks were fruitful and you used a picture of fruit to highlight that! GENIUS!

  2. killxswitch says: Jun 23, 2011 11:12 AM

    “Paolantonio also reports that it’s expected the talks will continue until a deal is reached.”
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    Well I would certainly hope so. Maybe these guys need to learn to use Skype or something instead of taking days to travel all over the country for 5 hours of meetings. Try stringing together a 5 day work week, fellas! Let’s celebrate July 4th as freedom from the British and from the lockout!

  3. duanethomas says: Jun 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    Why don’t they just negotiate 7 days a week until a deal is done?

  4. eaglesfootballfan says: Jun 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    I look for a new deal by mid July. I keep hearing around July 13, 14, and 15th.

  5. bravin4evr says: Jun 23, 2011 11:16 AM

    Let’s just hope that they continue to be fruitful…

  6. eagiants says: Jun 23, 2011 11:21 AM

    Sounds great!

    Quick, someone queue up the negative not so fast post.

  7. oldbrowndawg says: Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM

    As long as they don’t let the lawyers anywhere near this process until it’s time for the final signing, this may work. One lawyer in the room from either side could destroy weeks of careful work. They definitely have the ability to “fix” things beyond repair!

  8. jw731 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:24 AM

    I dunno…..I’ve met many a woman at a bar, and after a night of drinking, i considered the talks very, very fruitful, you have to take into consideration the next day…….

  9. libradad53 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:25 AM

    Frankly, all of this is driving me “bananas”

  10. pmars64 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:40 AM

    I still think Pash is full of it. If the league and the players have a deal, even if all the Ts aren’t crossed, etc., the lock-out will be lifted. Pash just likes to see his name in the press and he’s been pushed out of the inner circle of the owners who are now driving this thing to completion. No way owners will stop training camp and risk losing money on cancelled pre-season games simply to work out the legal language of the deal. That’s just a lawyer talking trying to make himself seem important.

  11. redwinglion says: Jun 23, 2011 11:41 AM

    You know what would be fruitful? Agreeing on a deal so we can have football this season.

  12. ftblfan9 says: Jun 23, 2011 11:52 AM

    Still falling for Pash’s posturing are we?

    The league can and will operate with certain documents and agreements from courts pending.

    A deal will happen at the precise time when; 1) training camps will need to be slightly shortened for players and, 2) the league has just enough time to obtain all necessary sponsorship and advertising committments for the 2011-12 season.

    The one thing more important to the league than satisfying the players and the one thing more important to the players than satififying the league is each of them satisfying the networks. However the revenue is split, that’s where it is coming from.

    Rest assured, the networks have already received assurances from both sides that an agreement is near. Do you see any networks scrambling to fill hundreds of hours of fall and winter programming?

  13. brooklynbully says: Jun 23, 2011 12:05 PM

    Looks like no four day weekend for them lol

  14. flik44 says: Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM

    I feel that the NFL and players will all be giving us the low hanging fruit before this is over with.

  15. bobwhitequail says: Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM

    Pash and Kessler are both scum. They should be kept locked in the basement like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction. Any time they get out and actually talk to human beings they just piss poeple off and cause fighting. And of course the more fighting they cause the more money they make. Keep them on their chain and we’ll have football.

  16. jacksaysfu says: Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM

    I dont want fruitful , i want a deal signed , i want the doors to open and I WANT FOOTBALL ! Lock the doors & bang it out ….. Not you Perrish Cox , you keep that door open

  17. unbiasedfootballfan says: Jun 23, 2011 12:26 PM

    If there is a victory to be had in these negotiations than Boston makes sense venue.

  18. jethro007 says: Jun 23, 2011 1:03 PM

    bobwhitequail says:
    Jun 23, 2011 12:13 PM
    Pash and Kessler are both scum. They should be kept locked in the basement like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction. Any time they get out and actually talk to human beings they just piss poeple off and cause fighting. And of course the more fighting they cause the more money they make. Keep them on their chain and we’ll have football.

    Great! I’d also like to see some members of the “press” tossed into that basement as well.

  19. champgiff says: Jun 23, 2011 1:33 PM

    jacksaysfu says:
    Jun 23, 2011 12:14 PM
    I dont want fruitful , i want a deal signed , i want the doors to open and I WANT FOOTBALL ! Lock the doors & bang it out ….. Not you Perrish Cox , you keep that door open

    ———————————————-

    One of the funniest comments I can remember on here. LMAO

  20. billybats says: Jun 23, 2011 1:44 PM

    “Two days per week of face-to-face talks simply won’t get a deal done in time, given NFL general counsel Jeff Pash’s explanation that the lockout won’t be lifted until all documents are drafted and all appropriate judicial blessings are obtained.”

    Could you please drop this line of argument? You are exposing your ignorance far more than you typically do (which is really saying something). Do you think that Pash, Batterman, Quinn, Kessler, and De Smith are the ones who are going to draft the definitive documentation, and $9 billion of annual NFL revenue is resting on the efforts of only five lawyers?

    You are WAY out of your league here, and I can say this as a transactional attorney who has worked on far bigger deals than you have. There are teams of attorneys working on definitive documentation as issues are resolved.

    I’ll prove it, too: training camps and the preseason will start on time with full definitive agreements in place. Since you’ve already said that this is not possible, everyone will get to see who is correct in short order.

  21. 1historian says: Jun 23, 2011 2:08 PM

    Today’s class:

    Combine ex-lax and a door which can only be opened by an agreement.

    Discuss

  22. myeaglescantwin says: Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM

    just remember that the owners are the ones locking everyone out.

    those aren’t bags of fruit. those are the dallas cowboy linebackers.

  23. whatswiththehate says: Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM

    At the rate that we are going, we may have to take bets as to which lock-out will end first; the NBA, if they do lock-out, or the NFL, which is still locked-out. Oh my

  24. tjacks7 says: Jun 23, 2011 3:35 PM

    “Paolantonio also reports that it’s expected the talks will continue until a deal is reached.”

    So they’re not going to continue talks after a deal is reached?? Wow Sal, thanks for this great report.. I thought they’d keep these talks going forever.

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