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With trust restored, talks turn to issues other than revenue split

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After a fairly quiet Wednesday, labor news is breaking like a brittle-boned boxer.  First, Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reported that Wednesday’s talks were “very fruitful.”  Next, Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com reports that the players would be receiving an update on the CBA discussions.

Now, Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the talks will turn on Thursday to the rookie wage scale, given that trust has been restored via a revenue system that requires no trust or guesswork or anything other than the total revenue figures and a calculator.

An unnamed NFC executive told Breer that a deal with “within striking distance.”  But an unnamed AFC executive cautioned that “[t]here are enough legitimate issues to where it could all fall down still.”  Breer also reports that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith has won the trust and respect of the owners over the past month, which has helped persuade the owners to soften their positions.

Here’s our view.  If (as it appears) an agreement has been reached regarding the manner in which the money gets divided, then a deal is for all intents and purposes (or, as the case may be, “intensive purposes”) done.  For months, it widely has been believed that, if an agreement is reached as to the manner in which the financial pie will be carved up, everything else will fall into place.

Are there other important issues that need to be worked out?  Sure.  But with both sides showing the reason and good sense necessary to reach a compromise on the biggest issue, there’s no reason to think they’ll be unable to work out a deal on the other issues — unless one side develops remorse over the biggest issue and uses one of the smaller issues as a way for throwing a wrench into the gears.

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24 Responses to “With trust restored, talks turn to issues other than revenue split”
  1. palakerfan says: Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM

    Hopefully, the resulting contract includes:

    1. 16 game season, not 18
    2. Rookie wage scale
    3. Better care for retired players

    I don’t really care how they split the money.

  2. thephantomstranger says: Jun 23, 2011 1:44 PM

    I love the positivity, but could you devote a few more resources to Adrian Peterson Camp-gate 2011?

  3. 7370355q says: Jun 23, 2011 1:44 PM

    Everybody enjoy your NFL season!!! *Knock on wood*

  4. babyjesus69 says: Jun 23, 2011 1:46 PM

    COME ON!!! Just lower the overall percentage of the pie paid to the players and in return pay them back by allocating most the money spent previously on unproven rookies to veterans. How hard is that? Get it done already! I’m growing sick of watching baseball and I’m a Giants fan!!!

  5. johnny1979 says: Jun 23, 2011 1:53 PM

    Wake me up once the deal is signed. Until then I could care less.

  6. nfl25 says: Jun 23, 2011 1:56 PM

    a deal is def done, probably done for a few days. they wouldnt be talking the way they are if it wasnt done. of course they wont come out and say it cuz u never know, but it sounds done. they just need to finalized and iron out a few details.

    and we will never ever have to see that face in the top right corner again

  7. johnnyoclock says: Jun 23, 2011 1:58 PM

    Notice how things apparently got nicey-nice after it was discovered that vocal fan sentiment was mostly behind the owners?

    I think the players saw this and got in the ear of Mr. Smith and now Mr. This is War had to eat some of his own b.s.

    While he and others will be smothered with praise here and elsewhere, just remember there was no reason to go down the nuclear path, and who are the ones that did this. If he could have pulled it off, he would have. Book it.

    But that will never be part of the story here. The story here will be filled with jabs at those in support of ownership in this ridiculousness as being hysterical, or stupid or the usual tired innuendo complete with I-told-you-so etc that’s typical.

    Moral of the story is, if the nuclear option could have been pulled off it would have. And what stopped that? Just remember that, and the role vocal fans had while you’re reading the jabs that will spew here.

  8. hobartbaker says: Jun 23, 2011 2:00 PM

    “Yeah”, admitted one owner, “I see DeMo in a different light this month. Ever since he ditched the hats. I mean, c’mon, how can you take a guy seriously wearing one of those things?”.

  9. eagiants says: Jun 23, 2011 2:01 PM

    But an unnamed AFC executive cautioned that “[t]here are enough legitimate issues to where it could all fall down still.”

    Someone always has to stop us from getting all the way excited. What a jerk.

  10. vetdana says: Jun 23, 2011 2:04 PM

    Insiders say that the key stumbling block is now, and has been since march 11….revenue sharing !

    Until that is competely decided….there can be no signed agreement !CBA Dont pop the corn for the first game quite yet, as there is still a potential for derailment !

  11. tumsman2 says: Jun 23, 2011 2:10 PM

    i would rather have this settled in court. all this does is open the doors to future litigation. lets settle this now in court and be done with it.

    i agree on the rookie wage scale. they are all over paid in comparison to their contribution to the team in the ealy years.

    i would also like to see the the legal rules on union certification changed. the fact that the player can de-certify and then 6 months later certify, seems like a sham. the waiting period before certification has to be made longer.

  12. bobwhitequail says: Jun 23, 2011 2:11 PM

    re: “And what stopped that? Just remember that, and the role vocal fans had while you’re reading the jabs that will spew here.”

    I don’t think vocal fans had anything to do with it unfortunately. Kessler and Smith tried to blow up the NFL as we know it. The thing that stopped them was the 8th circuit.

    Kessler would still push the lawsuits to the supreme court if he could, all the while raking in millions of dollars while fans, owners, players all twiddled their thumbs for many more months.

    The reality of the 8th circuit not siding with the players (so far anyway) means that the players and/or De Smith chose the negotiation route instead of lawsuits. I could give a rip if De Smith wants to call himself a hero after it’s over. I could care less. I want an agreement and football and whoever wants to take credit for it can, I don’t care.

    The only thing we know for sure is that the attorneys CANNOT take credit for any type of agreement. To me the leaders on the players side, whoever they are, and the leaders on the owners side (I know Kraft is one of them) deserve credit for getting the lawyers out and a willingness to negotiate in. Good job guys, now just don’t let the details get in the way of an overall good agreement.

  13. dcowboy77 says: Jun 23, 2011 2:16 PM

    johnny1979:

    then you do care some….otherwise you could NOT care less.

  14. hedleykow says: Jun 23, 2011 2:18 PM

    The biggest issue remains, whether to make reservations in Las Vegas for opening weekend, or not.

  15. blackheld says: Jun 23, 2011 2:19 PM

    “But an unnamed AFC executive…(cough, cough…Bill Belichick)…cautioned that “[t]here are enough legitimate issues to where it could all fall down still.””

    If Belichick ever found a silver lining in anything, he’d either trade it for a future draft pick, or videotape it in case he ever had to use it. And yes, I realize this is pure fantasy, since Bill Belichick never reveals any information about anything.

    This rant sponsored by The Committee to Elect Gisele Bundchen The World’s Richest Hottie.

  16. footballpoetry says: Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM

    I’m going to party when the lockout is lifted.

  17. vtsquirm says: Jun 23, 2011 2:25 PM

    i don’t think the fans are concerned in the least about how the money is divided. we want to know what structural changes will be involved in the new CBA and how it affects our teams.

    (rookie salary cap, increased active rosters, etc)

  18. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM

    @ DC Cowboy

    THANK YOU!! Why the hell people can’t get that saying right, especially when it is typed out is beyond belief!

  19. jc1958cool says: Jun 23, 2011 2:32 PM

    roger pinnochio must have started to tell the truth! if that’s possible

  20. kane337 says: Jun 23, 2011 2:39 PM

    Getcha popcorn ready

  21. slicknick4ever says: Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM

    @Chapman, @DC cowboy
    Plus he’s reading an aricle about it…. so he obviously does care… haha!

  22. oldhamletman says: Jun 23, 2011 3:39 PM

    if true… shocking

    my money says it’s an exaggeration…. 30% chance of deal by Sep 1st…

  23. zinn22 says: Jun 23, 2011 3:48 PM

    What amazes me the is owners have agreed to a 48% deal as this deal so very close to the proposal the players offered during mediation in March. The players starting offer was 50% of total gross revenues. The owners liked it so much their negotiation team walked out of the mediation. The owners then ridiculed the players offer in the press.

    I guess the players initial offer in March was not that bad after all. I wonder what has changed on the owner’s side other than the possibility of losing preseason revenue. It seems all the posturing by owners, the lockout and all the hubris was about nothing. This deal could have been done back in march if the owners were willing to negotiate then.

    I think this really tells us that the lockout and this whole crisis never had anything to do with the original deal but rather it was all about making a crisis so the could ditch the revenue sharing deal. The rich owners did not want to subsidize the small market teams. Plus they took advantage of the situation to squeeze an extra 5% out of the players. But the real money here is what they will save on the revenue sharing. Bad news for the small market teams and likely bad news for the overall health of the league.

  24. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Jun 23, 2011 6:17 PM

    Just like I said. All this lawyer bashing was just De Smith playing good cop / bad cop. Now he has “earned” the trust of the owners. Gee… that was tough.

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