Comments on: Gruden says Pryor has “rare talent”

By: ewsnider

ewsnider — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 03:02:26 +0000

damn. everyone is a hater. at least wait till the guy plays. so he took money??? they all do.

as for his talent- as long as he’s hard working he WILL succeed in the NFL, whether he plays QB or not.

I don’t even need to start naming qb’s that werent rated “amazing” by the “experts” that are succeeding.
or the “amazing” qbs out of college that aren’t doing anything.

speculation = nothing

By: piratebeard

piratebeard — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:24:41 +0000

I think he’ll be far less of a train wreck in the pros than what most people think. If you do wanna see a wreck just follow Cam Newton’s pro career.

By: warner2fitz

warner2fitz — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:45:20 +0000

Pryor is very talented in lying, cheating & doing whatever 2 get what he wants. As far as talent 2 be a successful NFL signal caller…NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: kusheadpotman

kusheadpotman — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:37:50 +0000

Hi, Bucs fan here.

I only read the headline, thus I only have this to say after having Chucky as my head coach for 4 seasons:

He is not a good evaluator of talent, especially when it comes to QB’s. Actually I digress, he can pick veterans who have already proved themselves like a champ, but with guys who have never played? He might as well play eni-menii-minni-moe when choosing someone with a “rare talent”

What a hack

By: giantrealist

giantrealist — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:35:53 +0000

Accepting perks to play at a particular college or to connect to an adviser [agent] does not validate the possibility of having issues at the Pro level.

In other words, he can’t corrupt a system that already pays to play.

I honesty can’t fathom why 18-22 year old kids who take money are treated like villains. Every person on this planet bends the rules a little for the green.

The kid has talent and brains. No reason why he can’t make it in the NFL.

By: myspaceyourface

myspaceyourface — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:16:28 +0000

Pryor and Cam Newton need to start a foundation together. Pryor can’t hit the side of a barn. He is a freak of an athlete, but has the mental capacity of a rider on the short yellow bus.

By: eaglesnoles05

eaglesnoles05 — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:52:08 +0000

“Thanks a million Jon. Do I make the check out to you personally?”
-Drew Rosenhaus, 2 seconds after Grudens interview concluded.

By: Derty Ernie

Derty Ernie — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:49:04 +0000

If Gruden isn’t being paid to say this I wouldn’t beleive it. Yes Pryor is big and strong and probably can develop into a quality qarterback but one thing about Pryor, he ain’t going to get the time he had at OSU standing around waiting for the play to open.

He must be able to pass to places not people and thats the nut to crack.

He may be able to read comic books or whatever but he better be able to read defenses.

By: berniemadoffsides

berniemadoffsides — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:20:08 +0000

Raider.

By: cserisey

cserisey — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:40:22 +0000

Hey ratbastardshanahandjob:
I’ll have you know that Jeff george (like Derrick Anderson) hand cannons for arms, and could throw a football like they came out of a pipe. Problem is, neither one could AIM his cannon very well.
I’m from Ohio. Life-long Buckeye fan. Pryor will be a bust. Period. At any position. Bet ya a case of beer

By: juanepsteinsmother

juanepsteinsmother — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:33:26 +0000

Although Gruden is not obligated to press Pryor on the Elephant in the room, you can bet your bottom dollar that GMs and Coaches will.

By: gbsparks

gbsparks — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:15:32 +0000

Does Gruden EVER have anything truly interesting to say about any player or would be player? He’s like Jaworski on steroids.

With Gruden, it seems that virtually every player he “evaluates” is a special talent.

By: writtenbyross

writtenbyross — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:10:54 +0000

1historian says: I know there are lots of you who love to dump on people from the safety and anonymity of cyberspace but that is YOUR problem, not his.

I feel like to avoid hypocracy you should include links to your resume, the Google street view of your house and a few references.

By: 1historian

1historian — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:50:28 +0000

4) ergo – so far the kid doesn’t really have a clue and we should give the kid a break.

I know there are lots of you who love to dump on people from the safety and anonymity of cyberspace but that is YOUR problem, not his.

By: 1historian

1historian — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:48:20 +0000

1) The kid just turned 22.
2) In H.S. he was the most coveted recruit of his class.
3) Given his athletic ability he has been coddled all his life.
4) Ergo – so faqr

By: jersey73

jersey73 — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:46:27 +0000

Gruden is slowly, but surely becoming John Madden.

You know Madden’s bag of expressions that he uses about every player:

- “He’s the real deal”
- “He’s something special”
- “He’s one of the best I’ve ever seen”

By: arrogantathlete

arrogantathlete — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:05:39 +0000

Rare talent? He’s like a lot of football players lying cheating and being arrogant.

By: writtenbyross

writtenbyross — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:14:44 +0000

A) He doesn’t say good rare. Just rare.

B) He says “double threat,” which could mean running + scamming

By: rcunningham

rcunningham — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:04:13 +0000

canetic says:
Jun 24, 2011 11:23 PM
What a joke. Gruden is losing credibility.

He knows more than you.

By: rickc10m

rickc10m — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:53:30 +0000

Gruden has kiss everyones butt, because he dosen’t have a clue about QB talent. Remember he started out with that confused QB, fly-out Farve. Or maybe he just didn’t screw him up because of number 4′s over confidence.

By: kegowhisky

kegowhisky — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:50:26 +0000

Pryor “feels disgusted” only because he got caught and was held accountable. He needs to learn from that lesson to really “move on with his life”, and I hope he can.

By: RussianBreadMaker

RussianBreadMaker — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:05:26 +0000

I watched video of that Rosenhaus workout. I was quite impressed with his footwork considering how supposedly lazy he is.

By: cardmagnet

cardmagnet — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:37:30 +0000

Gruden never says a bad thing about any quarterback. He’s also trying to keep things positive and kiss butt so that he’s on good terms with people in the NFL for when he wants to return.

By: MVQB7

MVQB7 — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:35:05 +0000

Rarely throws a spiral. Rarely has a smooth follow thru in his throwing motion. Rarely makes the correct reads downfield. Rare indeed!

By: huthuthut

huthuthut — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:02:58 +0000

The way the NCAA interacts with the NBA and the NFL is the real problem here. Aspiring football and basketball players are required to go to college even if they aren’t interested. But the two professional leagues find it convenient and cheap to let the colleges be their minor league system, and in turn the NCAA makes amazing amounts of money for their schools.

The only people NOT earning big bucks are the student-athletes themselves. Sure, they get free tuition, but you can be sure that many of them would not be interested in attending school otherwise.

There IS an alternative, and its what baseball does. Baseball has a well-organized minor league system and players have a legitimate choice. Those who want to pursue a career can get paid in something other than tuition. So you don’t have nearly as many “scandals” where players are looking to get a small bite of what everyone else is making.

By: depotnator

depotnator — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:50:19 +0000

Could Gruden be anything like the owner of this site who calls virtually everyone in the media ‘our good friend’ ?

By: drgfri

drgfri — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:33:59 +0000

Rex Ryan says Pryor has “great feet.”

By: lostsok

lostsok — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:33:24 +0000

Didn’t Chris Simms have “rare” talent?

Chuckie got lucky with Rich Gannon…a journeyman for whom the light came on at the right time, with an offensive line that (before Robbins meltdown) was the best in the league, and was chock full of weapons. Otherwise, how many good, let alone great, QBs has Gruden developed?

I like Chuckie. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. But his QB evaluation skills are among the worst in football.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:30:03 +0000

You have to consider that the players Gruden works out are the creme de la creme of each draft class. Why is it so surprising that he has mainly positive things to say about them? I think all the players he worked out earlier this year went in the top 35 picks of the draft or something. Which means that they will be guaranteed anywhere from 5 to 50 million dollars before they play a down in the league. You would hope that they are all pretty talented.

By: hanktheking

hanktheking — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:26:27 +0000

And you know this is legit because Gruden doesn’t compliment just anybody!