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Brees’ contract will become an issue soon

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Last year at this time, there was plenty of talk regarding the question of whether two of the league’s top quarterbacks — Tom Brady and Peyton Manning — would get new contracts before their respective deals expired after the 2010 season.  Brady did and, to date, Manning hasn’t.

This year, due primarily to another contract that applies to all players, another franchise quarterback whose contract will expire after the 2011 season isn’t getting as much attention.  Eventually, however, the status of Drew Brees will get plenty of notice.

Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune writes in a mailbag column that Brees’ contract won’t be addressed until Manning sets the ceiling with a financial package that likely will be the biggest ever given to any NFL player, despite Peyton’s age, his recent history of injuries, and the return of a salary cap.  (Indeed, Manning didn’t flinch when taking top dollar several years ago, and it’ll once again be for the franchise to figure out how to put enough good players around him with whatever cap space Peyton doesn’t pocket.)  The fact that Manning and Brees both are represented by agent Tom Condon makes that approach even more likely.

Though Brees won’t get as much as Manning, the more Manning gets, the better for Brees.  Especially if the Saints end up using the franchise tag on Brees, since at that point Manning’s 2011 cap number (or, if the Saints use the exclusive version of the tag, Manning’s 2012 cap number) will provide one-fifth of the formula used to determine Brees’ base salary for 2012.

Then there’s the issue we recently raised regarding the settlement of the Tom Brady antitrust lawsuit.  In 1993, Reggie White and the rest of the named plaintiffs in the antitrust lawsuit that delivered true (almost) free agency received an extra bonus — the franchise tag could never be used on them.  If that happens this time around (and that’s unlikely, but still possible), Brees will have considerably more leverage, especially since the ceiling set by Manning likely will be even higher.

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44 Responses to “Brees’ contract will become an issue soon”
  1. jcdavey2011 says: Jun 26, 2011 12:32 PM

    a case can be made for brees being the top earner

    i can see new orleans shelling out the highest qb contract ever for what he’s helped that city and team accomplish

  2. duanethomas says: Jun 26, 2011 12:33 PM

    Drew Brees is worth every penny he gets, throughout this labor impasse he has shown true leadership. I have a new found respect for him and that carnival sideshow man Dancing Tom Benson better reward him.

  3. raidermike says: Jun 26, 2011 12:40 PM

    To those who think the players are in it to get a better deal for each other and the “union” — I present Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning as exhibit 1 entitled “Masters of Greed”

  4. jeff061 says: Jun 26, 2011 12:42 PM

    Brees And his agent knew Brady’s contract term when they neogitid Drew’s big deal and massive bonus. It’s a shame he never intended to honor that deal – and planned “leveraging” out of his current contract

    The saints took all the risk when they signed Brees – had an injured shoulder. Irritating we’re even having this conversation

  5. BlackAndGoldAllDay says: Jun 26, 2011 12:45 PM

    If a team wants to play in the super bowl, they need a top 10 quarterback. If they want a top 10 quarterback, then need to pay top 10 money.

    Brees is a top 5 QB, so he should get top 5 money. But … he means more to New Orleans than to any other team and is worth top 2 money.

    Call it greed, but it’s just simple math. Players want to get what they’re worth relative to other players.

  6. billinlouisiana says: Jun 26, 2011 12:52 PM

    Once Manningv’s contract is done and the Saints see what cap space they have left after signing guys like Moore, Harper, possibly Bushrod, and redo Bush’s deal. I’m sure they will start negotiation’s for Brees’s next deal.

  7. schmitty2 says: Jun 26, 2011 12:52 PM

    No doubt Brees has ruffled alot of feathers but I don’t think many can dispute he deserves to be one of the higher paid QB’s

  8. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Jun 26, 2011 1:04 PM

    If anything peyton would be smart to take less money. He’s been paid so much if he wants those rings to be up there with everyone else he better get a team around him. Its easily attainable for him if he just makes the smart less greedy move!!

  9. emmonsh says: Jun 26, 2011 1:09 PM

    duanethomas says:Jun 26, 2011 12:33 PM

    Drew Brees is worth every penny he gets, throughout this labor impasse he has shown true leadership. I have a new found respect for him and that carnival sideshow man Dancing Tom Benson better reward him.

    true leadership. hes a fuccking bum. he is one of the reasons the lock out is on. pathetic excuse of a man. hope he fractures his leg theisman style.man is paid millions of dollars and he wants more, so now instead of owners paying for stadiums taxpayers can so this pathitic peice of crap can get more. loser=breez. they wont even be a playoff team this year. make a salary cap of 1000000 a year per player. hes way over rated

  10. eaglesnoles05 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:09 PM

    What if these guys said, “You know what? I’ll play for 15MILLION DOLLARS for EACH SEASON I play instead of 20 million a year if you promise to put that extra 5million into lowering ticket prices for the stuggling fans in this economy who provide every single cent that we are arguing over….”

    What about that, Drew, Peyton and tom? hello? anyone? why do I hear crickets? Dicks.

  11. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:24 PM

    raidermike says:
    To those who think the players are in it to get a better deal for each other and the “union” — I present Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning as exhibit 1 entitled “Masters of Greed”

    It’s always easier to naively whine about greed than it is to write an informed post.

    Manning, Brady, and Brees didn’t collectively roll out of bed one morning and decide to file an anti-trust suit. They did it because their union asked them to. They did it as a selfless act- while Brady, Manning, and Brees have more money than they’ll ever be able to spend and are safe from any type of retaliation from the owners, the other players are not.

    Before someone chimes in with the “negotiate, don’t litigate” song and dance, consider this: the owners ARE violating anti-trust laws. This not only affects the 1,700 or so NFL players, but every football fan in America. You can’t get the owners to simply stop doing this by negotiating.

  12. pickett85 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:25 PM

    Anyone else think is extremely strong stance on part of the “union” will hurt his possible earnings?

    I’m not saying he’s going to get blackballed. Someone will sign him for big money, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there might be some stalling from the Saints ownership to just hand him a monster deal… Just saying…

  13. jroneputt says: Jun 26, 2011 1:26 PM

    Brees has been a leader in this labor dispute, he led the union to decertify (when he thought the courts would rule in his favor) and away from the negotiating table.

    Then when the courts didnt rule the way he wanted he has led the non-union back to the table and an agreement may be reached soon.

    Only in America.

  14. buckybadger says: Jun 26, 2011 1:29 PM

    I would be more willing to sign Brees to a longterm deal than Manning who is 3 years older.

    If Brees wants to compete for another Super Bowl he might want to take a little less. Winning another SB will allow to make that money up elsewhere and football is a team game. Brees isn’t going to get younger or even better than what he is. His skills will start to decline and your salary cap could be filled by a guy who is on the decline. Be smart Brees and share the wealth. I will revisit this same topic with Rodgers in a few years as well.

  15. johnnycash19 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:29 PM

    raidermike says: Jun 26, 2011 12:40 PM

    To those who think the players are in it to get a better deal for each other and the “union” — I present Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning as exhibit 1 entitled “Masters of Greed”
    ——–
    Didn’t Brady restructure his deal a couple times so that the Patriots could afford bigger name players? How is that greedy?

  16. dempsey63 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:41 PM

    It is kind of interesting how the truly elite QBs tend to neutralize themselves by limiting the number of gamebreakers that a team can afford to surround them with.

  17. lgwelsh1 says: Jun 26, 2011 2:00 PM

    There is more to football than just the game itself, there is the business side and off field behavior. You couldn’t ask for a better QB than Brady, Brees or Manning. These guys do so much for their respective franchises and local communities.

  18. jaxxus says: Jun 26, 2011 2:07 PM

    Players get paid what they are worth.
    QB’s get the big bucks ————now let’s get serious————–let’s get Brett to come back and pay top dollar.

    The best for ————–THE BEST!

  19. annnann says: Jun 26, 2011 2:19 PM

    pickett85 says: Jun 26, 2011 1:25 PM

    Anyone else think is extremely strong stance on part of the “union” will hurt his possible earnings?

    I’m not saying he’s going to get blackballed. Someone will sign him for big money, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there might be some stalling from the Saints ownership to just hand him a monster deal… Just saying…

    ——————————————-
    I see your point. Be interesting to see how this shakes out. I doubt Saints’ ownership will be hesitant to give him a big deal though but you never know…

  20. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 2:41 PM

    eaglesnoles05 says:
    What if these guys said, “You know what? I’ll play for 15MILLION DOLLARS for EACH SEASON I play instead of 20 million a year if you promise to put that extra 5million into lowering ticket prices for the stuggling fans in this economy who provide every single cent that we are arguing over….”

    When was the last time YOU made such a magnanimous gesture?

    This will create a cascade of “thumbs downs”, but I don’t care- whiny, spoiled sports fans aren’t ENTITLED to discounted tickets at the sufferance of Drew Brees or anyone else.

  21. krow101 says: Jun 26, 2011 2:43 PM

    No knock on Drew… but anyone who thinks he’s better than Peyton is just a fanboy.

  22. stadanko says: Jun 26, 2011 3:13 PM

    The people calling Brees greedy are seriously ignorant. You obviously haven’t followed his career and are just jumping on this “Brees caused the lockout” bandwagon, which is just as simple minded. Drew has restructured his deal a couple of times so the Saints had more money for other players. He’s also paid for many players this offseason to attend workouts and has dedicated a countless amount of time and money to charities. But no, keep spitting out the same drivel that you read in the comments section of PFT. Don’t do any research or critical thinking.

  23. really2011 says: Jun 26, 2011 3:22 PM

    jeff061 says:
    Jun 26, 2011 12:42 PM
    Brees And his agent knew Brady’s contract term when they neogitid Drew’s big deal and massive bonus. It’s a shame he never intended to honor that deal – and planned “leveraging” out of his current contract

    The saints took all the risk when they signed Brees – had an injured shoulder. Irritating we’re even having this conversation

    ———————————————————————————–Confused about this. Are you saying that Drew Brees knew in 2006 what Brady’s yet to be created contract terms would be? Or are you saying that Drew is going to sit out the remainder of his contract? I thought this was about Drew honoring his contract through the end and negotiating an extension. Could be wrong though.

  24. chademer07 says: Jun 26, 2011 3:27 PM

    “What if these guys said, “You know what? I’ll play for 15MILLION DOLLARS for EACH SEASON I play instead of 20 million a year if you promise to put that extra 5million into lowering ticket prices for the stuggling fans in this economy who provide every single cent that we are arguing over….”

    What about that, Drew, Peyton and tom? hello? anyone? why do I hear crickets? Dicks.”

    Put yourself in that situation, I guarantee you wouldnt do that, people are such hypocrites. You get whatever money you can and be happy with it. Greedy people are the ones that care about nothing but money, Brees, Manning, and Brady are not greedy because they have alot of money.

  25. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 3:27 PM

    dempsey63 says:
    It is kind of interesting how the truly elite QBs tend to neutralize themselves by limiting the number of gamebreakers that a team can afford to surround them with.

    Yeah, when I think of all the Super Bowl rings Manning, Brady, and Brees have between them, all I can think about is how badly they’ve neutralized themselves (rolls eyes).

  26. rcunningham says: Jun 26, 2011 4:36 PM

    I can’t wait till he walks the entire city of New Orleans’ puppies under a glorious rainbow while whistling happy tunes and giving presents to poor children.

    Brady and Manning don’t pretend to be sparkly clean golden boys.

  27. vahawker says: Jun 26, 2011 4:39 PM

    Used to respect Brees, but his asinine comments during this off season of decert and lawsuits has shown he’s may not be the sharpest tack in the box and should keep his “leadership” duties to the field.

    As a player, he deserve big money for the job he has done with the Saints, but seriously is ANY player WORTH 20 mil a year? Firemen, policemen, teachers, soldiers…real heroes are WORTH infinitely more than a silly football(baseball, hockey,…) player. The economics may dictate 20 mil/year but not their WORTH.

  28. dd393 says: Jun 26, 2011 5:14 PM

    Maybe he should sue somebody.

  29. eagleswin says: Jun 26, 2011 6:40 PM

    tommyf15 says:Jun 26, 2011 1:24 PM

    Before someone chimes in with the “negotiate, don’t litigate” song and dance, consider this: the owners ARE violating anti-trust laws. This not only affects the 1,700 or so NFL players, but every football fan in America. You can’t get the owners to simply stop doing this by negotiating

    ———————————

    Actually you do. You do realize that for the last 20 years that the owners were not violating anti-trust. You know that last year they weren’t violating anti-trust with the same rules they want to use this year?

    If the players have a union there is no anti-trust. It’s not some grand stand for the greater good of mankind. The union can negotiate and it won’t harm a thing.

  30. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 6:45 PM

    vahawker says: As a player, he deserve big money for the job he has done with the Saints, but seriously is ANY player WORTH 20 mil a year? Firemen, policemen, teachers, soldiers…real heroes are WORTH infinitely more than a silly football(baseball, hockey,…) player. The economics may dictate 20 mil/year but not their WORTH.

    I really hate it when people say nonsense like this. The world isn’t always a fair place- did you just figure that out?

    People that are successful in the entertainment business, whether it be Drew Brees, Oprah Winfrey or Mick Jagger, make more than a civil servant. The money an entertainer makes comes from the revenues they generate, while a civil servant’s salary comes from taxpayers.

    The whole “teachers and firemen” thing is just another bad argument from jealous, resentful sports fans.

  31. saints25 says: Jun 26, 2011 7:04 PM

    Then Drew’s contract is a done deal….Come on rookie salary cap..:-)

  32. tumsman2 says: Jun 26, 2011 7:31 PM

    Drew is a great QB. If he wasn’t QB he would be changing the tires on my 4-runner.

    I value him at $650k
    That’s 65k x 10 because of football.

    Anything more is greed!

  33. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 7:41 PM

    eagleswin says:
    Actually you do. You do realize that for the last 20 years that the owners were not violating anti-trust. You know that last year they weren’t violating anti-trust with the same rules they want to use this year?

    If the players have a union there is no anti-trust. It’s not some grand stand for the greater good of mankind. The union can negotiate and it won’t harm a thing.

    Right, but the players union decertified.

    The players and fans would be best served if the owner’s union had to follow the same rules as every other American business.

  34. vahawker says: Jun 26, 2011 7:45 PM

    Sorry, TommyF, hate to disappoint you, but I don’t resent them. Hope they get as much as they can. Like I said, his play on the field and the economics of the game means he should be paid biiiiiiiiiiiig bucks. But don’t confuse that with being WORTH that kind of money outside of the white lines.

    Simpletons sometimes have difficulty making such distinctions.

  35. tommyf15 says: Jun 26, 2011 7:59 PM

    vahawker says: But don’t confuse that with being WORTH that kind of money outside of the white lines.

    That’s like saying a doctor isn’t worth big money outside of the medical field, or that a boxer isn’t worth big money outside the ring.

    So yeah, if football didn’t exist, football players wouldn’t make big money playing it.

    Duuuuuuuh.

  36. blubbo2 says: Jun 26, 2011 8:08 PM

    LOL. Yeah peyton will squeeze the most he can out of the colts and those idiots will seriously regret it in about 2-3 years.

  37. descendency says: Jun 26, 2011 8:27 PM

    Don’t say that. . .

    -Patriots fans worried about Logan Mankins. . .

  38. vahawker says: Jun 26, 2011 8:34 PM

    Wrong….again TF. The profession “doctor” is WORTH infinitely more than the profession “Xball Player”. No one who plays any game is WORTH anything because they play a game. A doctor/nurse/fireman/etc is WORTH more BECAUSE they are a doctor/nurse/fireman.

    Tough concept, I know

  39. geo1113 says: Jun 26, 2011 9:23 PM

    tommyf15 says:

    The players and fans would be best served if the owner’s union had to follow the same rules as every other American business.
    ___________________

    Explain yourself.

  40. jvw1982 says: Jun 26, 2011 10:09 PM

    Brees will get top dollar, no way NO ownership will throw away what this franchise has accomplished since his arrival…..he is a top 5 QB who has at least 5 good yrs left, the city loves him, he’s a leader and took the team too and won a Super Bowl……When its all said and done his contract will be very close to Manning, rightfully so

  41. 504dubb says: Jun 26, 2011 10:38 PM

    This is a non story… Im in New Orleans & nobody and I mean NOBODY, Media Included, feels this will become a issue. Drew is New Orleans to the heart, and ownership is going to pay him TOP $$$$ because he is TOP TALENT & Go down as the Best Saint In History!

  42. thetooloftools says: Jun 26, 2011 11:19 PM

    CAN’T WAIT !

  43. dave1961 says: Jun 27, 2011 6:47 AM

    100 million dollar contracts to the 35 year old qbs like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Drew Brees…. if I was an owner I’d trade them for 2 first rounders and move on….. saying nothing left to see here.

  44. ezdoesit209 says: Jun 27, 2011 9:00 AM

    There’s no alliance amongst athletes when it comes to finances. The only people they’re concerned for are themeselves and their families (rightfully so). But I can’t help but think that 1 super bowl ring for each wouldn’t be enough for players like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees to cripple their own teams. As much as I love watching these guys play ball when is enough enough?! Plus if I’m not mistaken Peyton has lost more big games then he’s won. His play-off record 9-10. Drew’s play-off record 6-6. Can someone please tell me, in what other walks of life does succeeding 1/2 of the time warrant receiving more money?!

    – I’m just saying

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