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Packers fans want presidential pardon for Fuzzy Thurston

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Memorabilia belonging to former Packers guard Fred “Fuzzy” Thurston, including his Super Bowl II ring, is scheduled to be sold at auction to pay the $1.7 million he owes to the IRS. But some Packers fans are banding together to try to get Thurston a reprieve.

Members of the Save Fuzzy Thurston Facebook group are contacting President Obama to ask for a pardon for Thurston.

“this group is to tell the world that one of the best packer players from super bowl one and two is about to lose his championship first ring to the I.R.S. Please help me and my dad to stop this,” Packers fan Tony Fonder writes on the Facebook page. “How? Either by snail mail or e-mailing the president to pardon him. Without Fuzzy , there would NOT be a Titletown U.S.A.”

The organizers of the Facebook page don’t appear to be basing their call for a pardon on any particular legal or moral principle; it’s mostly an appeal to Packers fans to support one of their own. And people who know Thurston seem to realize it’s not going to work.

Catherine Migliano of Florida, a longtime friend of Thurston, told the Green Bay Press Gazette that she appreciates the support from Packers fans but doesn’t see it doing any good.

“He is like a surrogate dad to me,” Migliano said of Thurston. “I know what is going to happen, and I’m realistic. Fans are going to turn to the (Packers) and are going to start clamoring, and there is not anything the organization can do. The law is the law.”

And the law says that if you don’t pay your taxes, your assets will be seized. That law applies to everyone, former football hero or not.

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  1. iflounder says: Jun 28, 2011 7:57 AM

    people say i do my job well, does that mean i don’t have to pay my taxes?

  2. dldove77 says: Jun 28, 2011 7:58 AM

    Ridiculous. Pay your taxes…or pay the consequences. Don’t feel sorry for this deadbeat.

  3. kevinfromphilly says: Jun 28, 2011 8:04 AM

    Too bad for him the President is from Chicago.

  4. patpatriotagain says: Jun 28, 2011 8:23 AM

    why don’t his fans all contribute$1.75 and pay the fee for him, instead of saddling the burden on taxpayers who couldn’t give a rip about a tax cheat losing his ring.

  5. panther17 says: Jun 28, 2011 8:25 AM

    Why don’t they just be high bidder and give the ring back to the player after settling his debt for him?

  6. chatham10 says: Jun 28, 2011 8:30 AM

    What a smart idea and then then the President can pardon everybody who has not paid taxes, just because he played football for the Packers should not free him from this obligation.

  7. minnysoda says: Jun 28, 2011 8:34 AM

    Fuzzy is a great guy but he should pay too bad a 28 year battle must have cost him at least 1.7 million dollars.
    Here is an idea Why doesn’t 1 Packer or a combination of get together buy the rings pay off Fuzzy’s tax debt and give him back his rings until his death when they revert back to the player or players
    Not only would it help a legend out it would be a pretty good PR move
    Can anyone say hey Brent time to repair some burnt bridges

  8. krow101 says: Jun 28, 2011 8:40 AM

    Maybe the fans could kick in some money and pay his taxes ?

  9. skimbell says: Jun 28, 2011 8:50 AM

    Hell, since Fuzzy doesn’t pay his taxes he’s qualified to work in obama’s administration.
    He’ll fit right in.

  10. vetdana says: Jun 28, 2011 8:52 AM

    A pardon for Fuzzy would establish a precident that the IRS would NEVER endorse !

    You would have a far better chance of finding ” Wisc.” green cheese “…. on the Moon !

  11. melonnhead says: Jun 28, 2011 8:55 AM

    Packers should have a stock sale to pay for Fuzzy’s back taxes.

  12. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Jun 28, 2011 9:19 AM

    Dear fellow NFL fans, stop putting these players on a pedestal. I know there’s not much going on in Green Bay but why should this guy get any form of leniency? It drives me nuts when people think pro athletes are exempt from the rules of society.

  13. minnesconsin says: Jun 28, 2011 9:31 AM

    panther17 says:
    Jun 28, 2011 8:25 AM
    Why don’t they just be high bidder and give the ring back to the player after settling his debt for him?
    ———————–

    He owes $1.7M. The ring is expected to fetch $20-$30k. My guess is that the feds would just seize it again if it were given back to him, and sell it again to take an additional chunk out of that large amount.

    It’s too bad nobody bothered to read the whole story before reporting on this. You make it sound like he racked up $1.7M in back taxes just on his income, which portrays him as extremely wealthy and not willing to pay his portion — very different from the truth of the situation.

    The guy still should’ve just payed the couple hundred grand judgement when he was told to, but I bet people would appreciate the whole story, no?

  14. minnesconsin says: Jun 28, 2011 9:32 AM

    For anyone who wants the whole story, which PFT can’t be bothered to share: he opened a bunch of restaurants back in the mid-70s called Left Guard — not the same as the famous Fuzzy’s location in Green bay today. One of the locations withheld federal taxes from employees but failed to pay them to uncle sam. The feds came after that employee, who then sued Fuzzy and his partners in federal court. Long story short, Fuzzy’s portion was $190k. The other three partners all paid their share, he didn’t. That judgement for $190k was made in 1984, and then renewed in 2004. The jump from $190k to $1.7M is all interest, which is mind-boggling.

  15. charism4 says: Jun 28, 2011 9:42 AM

    Why not ask Obingus to pardon him only when it comes to the Super Bowl Ring? I’m sure there are a hundred ways he could dodge getting it taken away otherwise. you know-like hiding it, or selling it to someone he knows to buy it back later.

    Or he could just pay his taxes-

    Packer fan.

  16. rugdog100 says: Jun 28, 2011 9:46 AM

    Packer fans want… Packer fans want… Packer fans want… blah, blah, blah. Why would the IRS pardon a criminal? He’s just another story in your storied franchise.

  17. brunmeister2011 says: Jun 28, 2011 9:48 AM

    Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea…fans can send Fuzzy $1.7 million to pay his taxes.

    The tax bill for that ought to be, oh, about $900k. Think he’ll be able to pay that?

  18. etronsman says: Jun 28, 2011 9:53 AM

    Why doesn’t a wealthy Packer fan (sorry Fuzzy, I don’t have the cash) purchase the ring(s) at the auction and then give as a gift to a trust established with Fuzzy as a trustee? He could then still have the rings, although he couldn’t have 100% exclusive control over them.

  19. waldoampere says: Jun 28, 2011 9:56 AM

    “Maybe the fans could kick in some money and pay his taxes ?”

    Maybe they can pay Aaron Rodgers taxes too. Then they can pay mine.

  20. baddegg says: Jun 28, 2011 10:09 AM

    I love football as much as anyone, but this shows that hero worship of athletes is out of control in this country.

  21. vikefan says: Jun 28, 2011 10:16 AM

    Typical Packers circle of fans, not only do they think they are better than everyone else, they think their own should be above the law. Typical bias cheesehead freaks. Pay the fine or do the time. No one is above the law, including your state. Get used to it, thats how the real world works. The world isnt always bout lalalala packerland.

  22. meso0rnery says: Jun 28, 2011 10:20 AM

    So let me get this straight… Packer fans want a Socialist President to tell the GOVERNMENT to back off??? BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!! Good one…

  23. imjinbrdgr says: Jun 28, 2011 10:28 AM

    Why doesn’t Fuzzy give me the ring and then I’ll take a picture of it and give that to him. Then I’ll sell it and give him the money. Well most of the money. Or at least some of it. Or I could just keep the money and he could keep the picture to hang on his cell wall.

  24. peanutbutter&jelly says: Jun 28, 2011 10:34 AM

    my real problem with this is that as another poster pointed out fuzzy had a judgement aginst him back in 84’and that was for 190,000 and since then because of irs penalty it has climed all the way up to 1.7mil when you owe the irs they head hunt they make life hell and they hit you with all kinds of penalty & intrest but when they owe you you get none of that they can hold your money up for years and never give you one dime more than the original amount.government or not whats good for the goose is good for the gander and when uncle sam starts maning up when they screw up then i will go along with it but untill then no.and thats why i’m all for fuzzy and i think we should all be for fairness from government and go as far as demanding it from our elected officials

  25. thejuddstir says: Jun 28, 2011 10:36 AM

    Next the rednecks will be asking for a pardon for Johnny Jolly!!! Packer fans think they are the greatest so why don’t they all chip in some money and pay the criminals taxes for him…..or maybe that great Packer franchise should show their support (sic) for one of their greatest players. That’s right, it’s not what you did for me, it’s what will you do for me.

  26. virusgvr says: Jun 28, 2011 10:59 AM

    Maybe one sports star could help out another here. Manny Rameriez isn’t doing anything with his life, and he is owed 12 million from the Dodgers. He could come up with 50%. It’s not like Manny is going to really miss out on that extra 1 million anyway. Any takers?

  27. hobartbaker says: Jun 28, 2011 11:04 AM

    What happened with all the revenue from that “successful” bar and restaurant? I guess Fuzzy Wuz Thursty.

  28. hobartbaker says: Jun 28, 2011 11:06 AM

    Kids across the country are contributing to the fund, thinking that “Fuzzy Thurston” must be a an orphaned rabbit or a lost kitten or something.

  29. hobartbaker says: Jun 28, 2011 11:09 AM

    One individual happily contributed to the “Save Fuzzy Thurston” fund, saying that he was sure it was one of his children’s favorite cartoons, and they should never have taken it off the air.

  30. rbecks9 says: Jun 28, 2011 11:11 AM

    Can’t believe you would actually post this article. I am a huge Packer fan, I don’t care if he single handedly won every Super Bowl. PAY YOUR TAXES YOU LOSER!!!!! And all of you who are trying to get him a pardon, you are pathetic.

  31. hobartbaker says: Jun 28, 2011 11:52 AM

    The site features a picture of Fred huddled under a blanket outside the frozen tundra of Lambau Field, with the caption “Keep Fuzzy Warm”.

  32. cobaltdriver says: Jun 28, 2011 11:57 AM

    Seeing is how we all Timothy Geingther or whatever his name is running the IRS, I don’t see it as an unreasonable request. But the realty is..you don’t pay your taxes, you will PAY somehow..sadly in our society, athletes, and celebrites think they are immune to the rules, and second of all, sadly , society lets them skate. Its not a Packer fan thing either(Viking fans who have to chime in on every single stinking thing Packer) its a broken society thing.

  33. carlgerbschmidt says: Jun 28, 2011 11:58 AM

    vikefan says:
    Jun 28, 2011 10:16 AM

    The world isnt always bout lalalala packerland.
    __________

    I”m pretty sure you meant lalalala vikings, but I”m also pretty sure it’s just “la vikings.” How’s that new stadium coming?

  34. thephantomstranger says: Jun 28, 2011 12:10 PM

    Where’s Carl? He would stick up for Fuzzy.

  35. witrapper says: Jun 28, 2011 12:17 PM

    SOME misguided Packer fans are doing this. I live and breathe Packers and am totally against clemency. I pay my taxes, so should Fuzzy. What is wrong with the government that they have allowed this to drag on for 27 years? Think that would happen if it was Joe 6 pack?

  36. slawsc says: Jun 28, 2011 12:36 PM

    You actually believe Obama can fix this situation and come up with a solution? Ha, that is pretty funny.

  37. mushroomcloudmofo says: Jun 28, 2011 12:41 PM

    The title should say “A Few Packer Fans” instead of “Packers Fans.”

    I appreciate what Fuzzy has done for the franchise, and certainly am proud of his accomplishments on the field.

    Still, laws are not selectively applied (or more aptly put, shouldn’t be selectively applied). He made the poor decision not to pay his taxes, he should have to deal with the consequences.

  38. hobartbaker says: Jun 28, 2011 1:00 PM

    They should get the old tax dodger a dog named “Warm”. Then they can post pictures of the two and ask you to “Save Warm and Fuzzy”.

  39. vikefan says: Jun 28, 2011 1:07 PM

    The world isnt always bout lalalala packerland.
    __________

    I”m pretty sure you meant lalalala vikings, but I”m also pretty sure it’s just “la vikings.” How’s that new stadium coming?
    _________________________________
    typical packer fan, not addressing the real issue & bash another team, thats why ur in lalala land

  40. carlgerbschmidt says: Jun 28, 2011 1:40 PM

    vikefan says:
    Jun 28, 2011 1:07 PM

    typical packer fan, not addressing the real issue & bash another team, thats why ur in lalala land

    _________________

    Typical viking turd. what are you bringing up lalalala packerland for. This story has nothing to do with “packerland” – it’s about an ex-packer who had a disagreement with the IRS, and instead of settling it, let it get completely out of hand. And, then a few misguided fans create a facebook page in support of him. No story here, nice gestuer, but it doesn’t matter, you owe taxes, you’re going to pay them one way or the other. why don’t you shut up.

  41. stellarperformance says: Jun 28, 2011 2:40 PM

    I don’t think he was expecting to live this long.

  42. stavreafavre says: Jun 28, 2011 3:49 PM

    Great guy, great player, has had more than his share of health problems. But unless you’re a corporation in this country, you have to pay taxes for the general good. If you’re a corporation you pay money directly to politicians for their and your benefit.

  43. stairwayto7 says: Jun 28, 2011 6:44 PM

    Hey Packer fan, you really think a Bears fan will pardon a Packer?

  44. welzy says: Jun 28, 2011 8:47 PM

    @vikefan
    ———————————————
    Yeah, but the Packers are in Super Bowl Championship lalala Land. I realize you have no idea where that is…

  45. packerbacker12 says: Jun 28, 2011 10:44 PM

    “Typical Packers circle of fans, not only do they think they are better than everyone else, they think their own should be above the law. Typical bias cheesehead freaks. Pay the fine or do the time. No one is above the law, including your state. Get used to it, thats how the real world works. The world isnt always bout lalalala packerland.”

    Kind of like Kevin and fatty Patty Williams did their time for taking a drug that masked steroids? Oh wait never mind. They refused to take their punishment like men. Instead they whine like the typical Viking they are and managed to somehow appeal the suspension to none other than a Minnesota judge whom ruled against the NFL’s ruling to suspend them and let them play.

    If that isn’t above the law, I don’t know what is.

  46. packerbacker12 says: Jun 28, 2011 10:49 PM

    “typical packer fan, not addressing the real issue &
    bash another team, thats why ur in lalala land”

    So first you bash the Packers. Then when a Packer fan responds to that, you wonder why they are bashing another team when they should address the real issue? You serious?

    Your just another typical unintelligent dimwit that breeds from the Viking ‘fanbase’

  47. pak1forgb says: Jun 29, 2011 12:45 AM

    Jun 28, 2011 10:16 AM

    VIKEFAN writes

    Typical Packers circle of fans, not only do they think they are better than everyone else, they think their own should be above the law. Typical bias cheesehead freaks. Pay the fine or do the time. No one is above the law, including your state. Get used to it, thats how the real world works. The world isnt always bout lalalala packerland.

    —————————————————-

    So, just when are the williams boys going to serve their 4 game suspensions from the three year old starcaps case? when they retire I guess. Pot and Kettle dude. P.S. There isn’t enough space on the internet for me to list all of the reasons that the packers are superior to the vikings but in a nutshell…..kiss the rings loser.

  48. brewdogg says: Jun 29, 2011 11:55 PM

    Okay, question time….. So the IRS forces him to sell assets to pay off this debt. Does he then have to claim the money made from these sales as income and have to pay taxes on that?

    Aside from that, it’s a sad story, but does that mean he should be pardoned? No. Problems like this are part of being a business owner. A lot of people who aren’t former sports figures have endured the same thing. He should have bit the bullet in ’84, taken out a loan, and paid the fine. Ignoring the IRS is like ignoring your wife….you can fill in the blanks there.

  49. indianheadmeatpackingcompany says: Jul 5, 2011 8:23 PM

    And this is the reason that GB fans are as low on the food chain as they are. Only a GB fan would think that it’s okay for people to be losing their jobs and homes, but it’s a crime that a packer has to pay taxes that he owes. How about all the packer fans band together and pay his taxes for him. And then attempt to look human and help the struggling people all around you that are going with out food or lights.

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