discosucs2005 was right. My point wasn’t that someone had actually been choked–and I should have worded it better. My point was that some kind of altercation had taken place and the justices couldn’t be trusted to tell the truth because they were breaking on party lines. The situation may have changed now, but at the time I posted, it seemed obvious half the justices were lying … but no one knew which half. That’s sad.

Whether or not this legislation winds up having an impact on Packer games, the intent is to allow concealed weapons into comparable events. That’s nutty.

My point is Deb is making statements without having the facts, one thing she always points out in support of Ben Rothlisburger. As the truth comes out, the facts are showing that no one was choked, yet there are people that want to state that a justice was choked. As far as the judges being split on what happened, how do you know that, are you part of the investigation? As far as allowing guns into Lambeau, if you really think that is going to happen, you are the moron. Local jurisdictions can overide the law, and that will happen in Lambeau just as it is in Madison.

That’s her point moron. A supreme court judge is accusing another of choking her, and the judges, who all witnessed it, are split on what happened. That’s so depressing.

And how was the law not about allowing guns in stadiums? Why do you think this is an issue? It wasn’t called the “guns in Lambeau” law, but that’s clearly part of the issue the law covered.

Deb, where did you hear Supreme Court members are choking each other? Only 6 people know what really happened in that room and they are not talking. If someone was choked I believe charges would have been made. Please do not believe or repeat everything you hear, you are smarter than that. Also, the law was not about allowing guns into Lambeau.

The law seems pretty clear that they can ban guns if they wish.

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Well, that settles that. Why is this even an issue?

For the deluded cretins that get pissed off and want to pull their tough-guy routine in the lot afterwards on some family who might have an opponents’ jersey on.

They won’t pick on the 160 lb. family man for long if he has Smith & Wesson backing him up.”

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Thank you for exactly making the point AGAINST guns in stadiums or in most public places, TheWizard.

The law seems pretty clear that they can ban guns if they wish.

So, your solution to a little trash talking at Lambeau between fans of different teams is to use deadly force on whomever is trash talking you? Lovely. It’s good to see the lunatic fringe is being well represented here.

Having been to Lambeau on four occasions prior to this law being enacted, I have never felt my personal safety at risk, nor have I ever seen a single fight nor any other situation where anyone would need or want to resort to fisticuffs to solve, never mind using a gun. You sound like you never got over the fact that you were beat up daily in high school. I suggest you should try therepy rather than violence.

BTW: The idea of several “heroes” with CCW permits lighting up some perceived threat in a hail of bullets while standing in a crowd of 70,000 is a recipe for more than one innocent bystander to be hit with stray bullets. I hope Wisconsin’s CCW regulations include stipulations for extensive, mandatory practice with your weapon of choice before you are allowed to start blasting away at “criminals” inside densely packed stadiums.

Here is the obvious (to some, clearly not all) problem. What is to stop those other guys from also having a gun? What if that harassment is pointing a gun at the poor family man? What is he going to do then? Pull out his gun and start shooting? Even in the best case scenario, his life could still be ruined.

If everyone has a gun, the potential for someone getting shot goes up. If no one has a gun, the potential for someone getting shot is zero. Obviously, there will always be people who can try to sneak a gun past security, and there are other weapons, but the potential for harm only goes up with increased firearms.

Basically what I’m saying is, get over this “I’m going to be a hero” mentality. A gun is a magic tool that will prevent you from being hurt or bullied. It’s a dangerous piece of equipment that’s main goal should be to hunt dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face (ten points for whoever gets that reference.)

If you are that terrified of society that you need to carry a loaded gun into a football stadium in order to feel “safe”, please just go home and hang yourself in a closet. Nobody wants to have to clean up the mess after you make some stupid decision based on whatever mental illness you are suffering from.

C’mon. No guns at a sports stadium. PERIOD. (Except for the cops there, of course)

Effective?

Once a week they will hold a “Saturday Night Special” event.

For the deluded cretins that get pissed off and want to pull their tough-guy routine in the lot afterwards on some family who might have an opponents’ jersey on.

They won’t pick on the 160 lb. family man for long if he has Smith & Wesson backing him up.