Comments on: More gushing from Gruden on Pryor

By: lostsok

lostsok — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:18:49 +0000

The difference between Cam Newton and TP has less to due with ability, or even character, and more to do with investment.

Cam was the #1 overall pick. He will cost the club millions and is counted on to be the face of the franchise and cornerstone to the offense.

Pryor will probably be drafted somewhere between round 3 and 5 in the supplemental, and will cost, comparably, pennies. He may or may not remain at QB. He may or may not be a sub-package QB, rather than true every-down starter. Whomever takes him has a player with potential…but little risk.

THAT is far, far more relevent that who is or is not a good NFL prospect. Cam was WAY over-drafted…Pryor will be a steal or a quiet bust.

Personally, I think Cam was a better arm even if his short-area passing (“touch”) is questionable, and he’s never had to read NFL defensive schemes. Both has character questions, but Pryor has had minor issues that went horribly out of control while Cam has had one issue after another for years (cheating, stealing, lying, leaving, lying some more).

I take Pryor for the price any day.

By: whatswiththehate

whatswiththehate — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:06:32 +0000

Seriously, when did we as a society become so shallow and empty where the media can manipulate us into watching their stupid shows.

Grudden will say whatever ESPN wants him to say and do with these QBs. Plain and simple.

Grudden clearly was told to set Cam up because Cam was already being portrayed by ESPN as being stupid. Gruden barely asked Blaine any real difficult QB questions. Just the same redundent statement about his major. He knew Mallett was a coaches kid was was able to have a best QB conversation out of the bunch and I don’t even remember Jake’s interview.

We now have Terrell, who the sports media scaped-goated and blamed for Tessell’s fall but they have no intention of treating him anything like they did Cam. Grudden will be playing to Terrel’s strenght so he won’t look worst than Cam.

Cam is the sports media’s whopping boy for this quota.

By: jerryd1

jerryd1 — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:40:50 +0000

Rare talent?? Pryor??

Pat White was a Rare Talent … and is getting ‘Rarer’ by the moment!!

By: samboni714

samboni714 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:41:14 +0000

Gruden is the reason I do not watch MNF unless the Vikings are playing. He aruns to much from the mouth and analyes to much. Get rid of him asw he thinks he has to be the reason we watch MNF. Also to many people in the booth.
Sam Skoien

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:13:05 +0000

giboxer5 says:
Jun 30, 2011 4:44 PM
“…since he’s the Will Rogers of quarterback evaluation.” LMFAO…WTF does that even mean?? If I’m 30 and don’t even kinda get it, then who exactly is your target audience??
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Semi-educated average Joes?

By: Soulman45

Soulman45 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:47:03 +0000

When is he going to tell me about a QB he don’t like?

By: closisgood

closisgood — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:01:28 +0000

not really playa i aint black

By: paulbrownsrevenge

paulbrownsrevenge — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:57:48 +0000

Bring back Howard Cosell. “Look at that monkey run”. god that was awful. I think I’d rather be stuck in a room for a few days listening to Dan Dierdorf than to listen to Chris “i sound like i smoke 2 packs a day” Collinsworth.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:57:36 +0000

Two weeks from now, the man is Pryor, T. #1.

Or at least he should be.

By: 808raiderinparadise

808raiderinparadise — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:55:27 +0000

So wait a second … Beating Michigan means ????? Especially since Michigan is a gutter program in the Big-10 now.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:44:10 +0000

“He was also undefeated against Michigan.”
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So was Armanti Edwards, former QB of Appalachian State and now either a WR or the last QB on the depth chart of the Carolina Panthers.

The fact that his team beat a rival does not make him a good pro QB prospect

By: r8rsfan

r8rsfan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:43:22 +0000

10kmp – you nailed it man. Couldn’t have been better said.

By: redskinspike

redskinspike — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:29:20 +0000

Gruden will never flat out say anything negative against all of these quarterbacks that do the QB Camp with him. I’m not sure how long he’s been doing it, I know it’s been at least 2 weeks. Everybody knows that one day Gruden will go back to his coaching days. What would it look like if Gruden became the HC of a team where the franchise QB was a part of the QB Camp and Gruden ripped them apart? You think there will be any chemistry at all with them?

By: outlawjerseywhales

outlawjerseywhales — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:19:14 +0000

giboxer5 says:Jun 30, 2011 4:44 PM

“…since he’s the Will Rogers of quarterback evaluation.” LMFAO…WTF does that even mean?? If I’m 30 and don’t even kinda get it, then who exactly is your target audience??

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Come on and get with the times. After all, it wasn’t that long ago that Will Rogers (and Wiley Post) was killed in a plane crash!
1935, to be exact!

By: giboxer5

giboxer5 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:44:28 +0000

“…since he’s the Will Rogers of quarterback evaluation.” LMFAO…WTF does that even mean?? If I’m 30 and don’t even kinda get it, then who exactly is your target audience??

By: frankdatank23

frankdatank23 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:36:34 +0000

Gruden isnt going to be critical of anyone…….. he’s planning on coming back to coaching, he’s the coach taking some off time, not your typical analyst.

I do think he’s great with his upbeat color commentary and energy for the game….. he reminds me alot of Madden. Boom !

By: elleclouds

elleclouds — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:21:15 +0000

Even with all the Gruden gushing, I’ll take his player evaluations over most of these Internet gurus ( PFt writers + commentors). You know because he actually has experience with what he is talking about, not evaluating players from a couch/computer chair.

By: silkyjohnson937

silkyjohnson937 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:13:40 +0000

Jon Gruden coached the bucs for 7 years and they had 14 different starting qbs during that time, ENOUGH SAID.

By: 10kmp

10kmp — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:02:45 +0000

The night Gruden let Keyshawn Johnson verbally abuse and berate him on the sidelines of a nationally televised Buccaneers game because Johnson was miffed was the very moment the “Chucky” persona died, and Gruden lost much of his credibility and respect. Since getting the MNF color gig Gruden has taken ass kissing to new heights, and what little credibility he retained after the Keyshawn episode was forever lost.

By: thegonz13

thegonz13 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:01:02 +0000

If he’s THAT good at developing QB’s, how come he always stuck with veterans at the position?

Just wondering…

By: granadafan

granadafan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:59:50 +0000

I lost respect for Chuckie after his sickening man-crush love for Brett Favre who could do absolutely no wrong on Gruden’s eyes. No matter the action on the field, Gruden could NOT stop talking about how great the diva was even after all the picks, the grumbling from teammates about the special treatment he received, the quitting, the crying, etc.

By: Spencer

Spencer — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:49:49 +0000

If Cam Newton can be considered a legit franchise QB, good enough to be the #1 overall pick in the draft, I honestly see no reason why or how Pryor can be kept from playing quarterback in the NFL.

By: prior0knowledge

prior0knowledge — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:39:47 +0000

Look – if you are Jon Gruden and you want QB’s to pay you money to train them, what better way to recruit next year’s QB’s then to talk up this year’s clients.

By: outlawjerseywhales

outlawjerseywhales — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:34:54 +0000

“More gushing from Gruden on Pryor”

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This title is just so wrong!

Skeet shooting? Is it reciprocal?

By: citizenstrange

citizenstrange — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:33:04 +0000

I watched the last five minutes of the show with Jake Locker and the first five of the one with Blaine Gabbert and couldn’t watch anymore.
Completely meaningless crap.

I guess If I was a fan of the team that took one of these guys I would sit through it but to just watch it to try to really learn anything about them is pointless.

By: rgwhodey

rgwhodey — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:30:13 +0000

@chargerdillon

Umm… you watch American Idol?

Just Sayin’

By: myeaglescantwin

myeaglescantwin — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:19 +0000

I’d take pryor over cam.. cam had 1 year and a sick defense.

By: angrycorgi

angrycorgi — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:24:25 +0000

If Gruden’s QB-evaluation ability was better than the average 7-year-old girl, I might pay *some* attention to his opinion.

By: swcoach

swcoach — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:18:53 +0000

Can we stop with the car jokes… if you were paying attention to the news, OSU AND Pryor were cleared from anything related to the cars. Another thing blown out of proportion by the media and everyone bought it.

If you want to make car jokes, why don’t you make them about UNC players since there is actual proof they did something wrong.

Also, one thing Pryor can do better then Cam Newton… actually name a single play when Gruden asks him. Maybe thats why Gruden thinks he is more prepared.

By: marvsleezy

marvsleezy — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:17:41 +0000

I just saw the teaser on SC this morning – Gruden kept saying the name Sensenbaugh over and over like 20 times. Pryor was just staring at him like WTH do you want from me man? Is he nuts?

I will not be watching tonight – No substance there.