“…has more control over game-planning or play calling…”
Pure conjecture.
None of us knows if this is the case.
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And if Peyton is acting as the defacto OC, that could help explain his sub .500 post-season performance. If you put any player in a position where they have to act like the OC, and then pit them against top notch coaches with quality rosters in the playoffs (when the coaches have extra time to prep for you) you’re putting them at a serious disadvantage. There’s a reason they have coaches off on the sideline and not on the playing field. They need to be able to step back and take a bigger perspective.

Oh, and can we please retire the “well, the Colts would completely suck if not for Peyton” argument? I have absolutely no problem giving Peyton full credit for all the amazing things he’s done on the field, but I absolutely refuse to give him extra credit for the fact that he’s held out for so much money over his career that the Colts can’t seem to afford to hire a quality backup.

That’s how good the guy is.

@Deb, your use of “hon” and lack of full on Ray bashing that is so common with western PA tells me you’re a stooler fan livin in the charm… ugh.
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Hon is common Southern dialect–in case you haven’t noticed, Steeler Nation is vast territory. Intuition isn’t your strong suit, is it? Neither is reading comprehension. “Lack of full on Ray bashing”? Baby, I gave Ray “mad respect” without any bashing at all

Spare me your pitiful bad manners and braggadocio about your touristy drinking habits. I prefer talking to adult Ravens fans like mswravens. Now run along back to your sandbox.

Hey, if you are too stupid to recognize it, that’s your fault….puling out BS statisitics to prove how much of a liability is dumbfounding and borderline criminal.

If you are too stupid to realize that in clutch situations, there is no compare (other than Brady).

..you are an absolute baffoon..

As far as Peterson. Should anyone in the top 10 ever be on the sideline during crunch time because the coach is afraid he is going to fumble, AGAIN?

I actually live in the Pittsburgh area, where mediocrity is actually embraced and revered by the local media.
The local sports media’s current crusade is hyping the average Pirates, which has given them a break from hyping the Steelers’ average quarterback.

Here’s some facts: During Roethlisberger’s absense the first four games of last season, the Steelers’ offense ranked 10th in scoring. Once Roethlisberger returned, the Steelers’ offense slipped to 17th in scoring, until rebounding to finish the season 12th after scoring a flurry of meaningless points in lopsided wins against the lowly Browns and Panthers.
The Steelers’ offense was held to fewer than 20 points eight out of 16 games last season. That’s an alarming ineptness from an offense that’s credited with having an “elite” quarterback, don’t ya think?
In 2009, with their season on the line, the defending Super Bowl champion Steelers’ offense scored just six points (two field goals) in a 13-6 loss to the ONE-and-ELEVEN Browns. Think maybe a Brady, Manning or a Brees quarterbacked offense might’ve been able to produce more than just two field goals against an 1-11 team?
Roethlisberger has stunk in two Super Bowls and was average in another. But in Pittsburgh, average is awesome.
Thank God for that defense!!!

BJ RAJI had more interceptions than the guy.
Nmandi gave up less passes/tds than revis.
I think Rodgers had more tackles than revis.

Just saying, you can avoid and make revis disappear from the game, but you can’t avoid Reed/Suh/Woodson/Urlacher/Matthews/Ware/Peppers/Allen etc.

But than again, since it’s all about fantasy football these days, I guess all you have to do to be considered the greatest defensive player ever in the history of the league (smh) is to cut down a wide reciever’s fantasy stats.

Would you like a side of cries to go with that wahhburger Brady?

I will say it again, Tom Bradys stat’s prior to 2007 is a fraud…

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If your saying he had better stats because of taping signals, that makes no sense.

His stats are WAY better since 2007.

His passer rating from 2007-2010 is 108.

He has 114 TDs and 25 INTs in that time.

Over the 3 years he really played since spygate he has averaged 38 TDs and 8 INTs a year!

After his dazzling, 2005 three-game postseason, Ben Roethlisberger has been overrated the past five seasons. But, finally, the NFL players have put him in his proper place: No. 41.

Someone up the page suggested that if Roethlisberger played entire games the way he plays in the final minutes of games, he’d belong higher in the rankings.
Did you see Roethlisberger in the final minutes of Super Bowl 45? He came unraveled.
In the final minutes of Super Bowl 43, he put together the winning TD drive against the absolute worst defensive team in Super Bowl history, which made itself even worse by playing a “prevent” on the Steelers’ last possession. Prior to Santonio Holmes’ brilliant last-minute TD catch, the Steelers’ offense had managed to score just 13 points against a defense that had allowed 49 TDs in the 2008 regular season…

I salute the NFL players for dispelling ESPN’s insane insistance that the NFL is a “quarterback-driven” league.
By naming only three QBs to the top 10, the players made their opinions loud and clear: The NFL is a defensive-minded league…

The players got it right.

I will say it again, Tom Bradys stat’s prior to 2007 is a fraud…
If your offensive coordinator knows what the defensive play is, then you go to plays to beat the defense.
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Uh, the defense lines up in response to the offense, not the other way around. Football comprehension fail.

Brady throws an INT every 45 passes, Manning every 36 over career.

Figured I’d get this in before somebody pounced on the error.

Brady threw an INT every 123 passes this past season. That is amazing.

They are two great QBs, and Rogers is making himself a legend as well.

Having said that, Manning’s still the better quarterback.

I also think Rodgers should have replaced Brees on that list.

@baggataway – EXCELLENT POST! Thanks!

@Deb – Nice post! I hate to admit this, but I am just not as objective as you. I try, but know I’m not. I tend to agree with you about comparing generations & certainly agree Steelers were underrated. Anyway, at least my hatred of all things Steeler is bred from respect…and probably some jealousy mixed in as well!

Manning got 48% of the votes
Brady got 27%

you’re schooling of the people on this website above just made my day. thank you. happy 4th of July and GO RAVENS!