No, I’ve been a Saints fan since 1987, my first Saints game in the dome.
I’ve been through ups and downs, which make kicking all of your asses these days great. Keep bringing up old stuff, just makes you look bitter and jealous. Nobody said we were a dynasty, but we are kicking ass right now, and it feels great.

I never mentioned any “old stuff” did I? I said saints fans act like they are a dynasty, when they have won 1 title. We beat you in 2009 and played you even last year, you have hardly “beat our asses”. You beat us bad in 2006, so yeah, one time in 4 or 5 season. I have no hate for the Saints. I wish JJ had the testicular fortitude to dump Parcells and hire Payton, but then again, everyone would have killed JJ for that. I like Payton, and most of the Saint’s players, just quit pretending you guys invented football. I hate JJ myself, but for those acting like coaching in Dallas is so beneath Payton, he evidently liked JJ enough to check with him about the Dallas job before leaving to take the Saints job.

by “modern era” saints fans mean the last 2-3 seasons, you know, when most of them actually became Saints fans. Saints fans remind me of Phillies fans in baseball, they pull one title out of their arse, the first in decades, and pretend like they are a dynasty, and they win one every year.

No, I’ve been a Saints fan since 1987, my first Saints game in the dome.
I’ve been through ups and downs, which make kicking all of your asses these days great. Keep bringing up old stuff, just makes you look bitter and jealous. Nobody said we were a dynasty, but we are kicking ass right now, and it feels great.

-a saints fan

Uh, dude, where did melonhead say that the Saints bought the players listed? The quote said “not of the homegrown variety”. As to no one wanting Drew Brees, then why in the world did New Orleans have to give him a 6 year/ $60 million contract? Miami dropped out at that price over the shoulder concerns. The next time someone doesn’t want me, I hope they indicate that by guaranteeing $10 million the first year with a $12 million option for the second year.

@ wood5050

I’m guessing that “5050″ is the odds of you writing a sentence that makes sense. Give me the under on that proposition.

by “modern era” saints fans mean the last 2-3 seasons, you know, when most of them actually became Saints fans. Saints fans remind me of Phillies fans in baseball, they pull one title out of their arse, the first in decades, and pretend like they are a dynasty, and they win one every year.

Every day is a good day to be a Cowboys fan, win or lose. They’re the flagship franchise of the NFL whether they’re the champs or 5-11 and you can tell by consistent merchandise sales and nationally broadcast games. Saints? Not so much. Two years after lucking into their Super Bowl win, the Saints are scheduled for 4 prime time games and 1 late afternoon game, giving them a grand total of 5 possible nationally televised games in 2011. A year after going 6-10, the Cowboys are scheduled for 5 prime time games and 6 late afternoon games.

Do you realize what that means? A year after going 6-10, the Cowboys will play in more nationally televised games in one season (11) than the Saints have in the two seasons since they lucked into their lone Super Bowl win (10, counting 2010 and 2011). It’s not luck, it’s not an accident of scheduling, they didn’t do it that way for the express purpose of pissing Saints fans off… it’s a true measure of relevance.

On the bright side, you’re only 97 wins away from a .500 record, all-time. The team recently voted as the worst professional sports franchise in north America, the Cincinnati Bengals, are 86 wins away.

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The Cowboys are 15-9 against the Saints in the “modern era”, slappy.

Then Sean says; ” See that ring, take a good hard long look at it.”

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Then Aikman says “Sean, put that silly little Walmart ring away and look at some REAL hardware. And when you get done with those take a good look at what a Hall of Fame QB looks like since you’ve never been this close to one before”.

Then Sean says; ” See that ring, take a good hard long look at it.”

No, no me… me neither… (looks suspiciously over each shoulder)

Where to start, where to start? Okay, “let’s be real”? If you think Pittsburgh really did outplay Dallas in Super Bowl XXX, please explain how Dallas scored the first three times they had the ball? Or how Pittsburgh’s first score came on a desperation drive that included a fourth down conversion? Or how they had to resort to an on-side kick? Or how the Steelers still lost by 10? You think those are the signs of a team that really outplayed the opponent?

Regarding Bill Parcells; the guy quit. The guy said he quit. He’d quit jobs before and he’s quit jobs since. What in the world makes you think a guy in his 60′s with several million in the bank wouldn’t want to quit?

If Sean is setting up for a move to Dallas, good luck with that.

As a Saints fan, I appreciate everything Payton has done for our team; if he chooses to move on, there will be a number of top shelf HC’s to take his place…

prior to the salary cap there was no unrestricted FA, therefore no player movement….how could any team prior to FA and the Salary Cap (which were instituted the same year) “buy a title”?.

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Never try to talk logic to a Saints fan. It wastes your time and annoys the Saints fan. This is a funny discussion, considering the number of Saints players that were not of the homegrown variety in 2009. Off the top of my head, Brees, Shockey, Vilma, Sharper, Fujita, Greer, Ayodele, Hargrove, I know there must be more.
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Given that your response is geared toward “buying a title,” who exactly did the Saints “buy” in the players you mentioned?

Brees was a castoff that no one wanted because of a possibly bum shoulder.

Shockey was traded for because his team didn’t want him anymore

Vilma was traded for because his team didn’t want him anymore.

Sharper was let go because his time in Minny was a bit of a disappointment and hardly anyone had interest in him. And from what I remember, the Saints’ first target at Safety that offseason was Sensabaugh, whom the Cowboys acquired (a little “buying” right there I think)

Fujita was a castoff of the Cowboys — they didn’t want him.

Greer might have been wanted by the Bills but they had recently drafted a CB so he was expendable. Greer “may” be someone the Saints “bought” but I don’t buy it. His contract barely puts him in the top 20 in salary and barely in the top 30 when you consider the cap hit and bonuses. His base salary in 2009 was 3 million. That doesn’t sound like buying a CB.

Ayodele was a castoff.

Hargrove was in rehab the year before.

You said there is probably more and you could say Lance Moore, whom the BROWNS didn’t want. THE BROWNS!!!

We could go on, but from what I can see, the Saints Championship team was a team built on unwanted players and castoffs. The only player that you could say the Saints even came close to buying is Drew Brees, but I disagree. No one really wanted him and based on his contract he was not paid like a franchise QB. His pay rose with bonuses and performance escalators.

-Cell phones were the size of phonebooks
-It took 10 mins to connect to the internet
-Frank Gifford was caught with a woman’s breasts in his hands
-On a computer, if you had one, you were writing with Word Perfect
-There was no iPod, Droid, Kindle,
-There was no HD TV

But if you want watch the Cowboys when they were relevant, just pop in that worn copy of your VHS tape that’s somewhere covered with dust in a box in your attic – if you can find it.

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Never try to talk logic to a Saints fan. It wastes your time and annoys the Saints fan. This is a funny discussion, considering the number of Saints players that were not of the homegrown variety in 2009. Off the top of my head, Brees, Shockey, Vilma, Sharper, Fujita, Greer, Ayodele, Hargrove, I know there must be more.

Even to this day I don’t understand what the Tuna saw in that guy.

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He’s Rob Carpenter’s son. That’s it.

the cowboys havent done anything since salary cap.

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Super Bowl 30, booby. Look it up.

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I reckon we should give them the trophy! Then the Cowboys would only have three more than the Saints. Hey then maybe we can throw the ones they won against the Bills in the garbage. They’d still have more than the Saints hahahaha

Living in the past much? Bitter that the woeful Saints have won more playoff games and championships in the past 15 years than the Cowboys? Most college kids today, when asked about the last Cowboys SB win would reply that they were playing with their tonka trucks. And, let’s be real, Pittsburgh really did outplay Dallas in their last SB win anyway. If O’Donnell didn’t play pitch and catch with that cornerback (even I can’t remember his name…), Pittsburgh wins. And beating Buffalo twice for their 3rd and 4th SB losses in the row isn’t exactly like beating the Steelers in the 70s. Oh, wait, Dallas lost both of those…

If Payton does go to Dallas, and I think he might, he’s a fool. You’ve GOT to be an idiot to want to coach for Jones. Those two egos could never co-exist because Jones would never allow Payton to get the credit he would deserve if he, by some miracle, would lead the Cowboys to a SB win. The Cowboys recent success, if you can call playoff choking a success, was because of Parcells. But Jones, in his stupidity, ran him out of town and replaced him with — Wade Phillips!?!?!?! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!! Then he hires the offensive coordinator (who sabotaged Phillips) who thinks that he has a better shot at winning by going for a 59 yr FG to tie last Thanksgiving than going for a first down???? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!! Good luck with that!!!