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Silver: NFL, players “closer to an agreement than many people realize”

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As the optimism-pessimism rollercoaster continues to climb and fall only to climb and fall again, one of last week’s Debbie Downers has us all hearing the clickety-clack of the car that is approaching the top of the hill.

Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports, in an excellent but very long column that doesn’t mesh well with adult ADD, writes in the third paragraph that the league and the players are “closer to an agreement than many people realize.”  In fact, Silver says that a deal is closer “perhaps than even some of the people involved realize.”

We mention this because we’ve heard that a deal truly is close.  Or at least that a deal was close after midnight in Minnesota last Thursday night/Friday morning — and that a deal could have quickly been completed if the parties had continued to meet until a deal was done.

What we don’t know is whether Tuesday’s negotiations, which surely began after Silver’s latest item was filed, will change the complexion of the talks for the worse.  And so there’s a chance that, just as the late-night session on Thursday trumped much of Silver’s excellent look at the schism between the parties, intervening events will soon have us all screaming down the next drop.

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36 Responses to “Silver: NFL, players “closer to an agreement than many people realize””
  1. myspaceyourface says: Jul 5, 2011 2:17 PM

    Wait an hour and then the headlines will read:

    “Deal between Players and Owners is as wide as the Grande Canyon”

  2. berniemadoffsides says: Jul 5, 2011 2:25 PM

    @ myspaceyourface :

    And maybe a photo of some firemen putting out a fire…? I think that would be a nice touch.

  3. tomwill21 says: Jul 5, 2011 2:29 PM

    Over under 2.5 for someone to say deals isn’t close at all?

  4. tomwill21 says: Jul 5, 2011 2:30 PM

    2.5 hours i meant

  5. kilo0986 says: Jul 5, 2011 2:40 PM

    I swear I.remember reading an article last week on yahoo saying that the owners and players are further apart than reports suggested…. And how is it that this guy knows more about the progress of the labor negotiations than, you know, the people THERE? I wish the media would stay just as quiet about this as the owners and players have been. Its them causing this whole rollercoaster of bull $h!*.

  6. minormillikin says: Jul 5, 2011 2:42 PM

    So, once the final billable-hours are tallied for both sides’ lawyers, how much money will there be left to split?

    $8?

  7. 4gone says: Jul 5, 2011 2:43 PM

    Silver says that a deal is closer “perhaps than even some of the people involved realize.”

    Could it be that the two sides struck a new CBA months ago but the people involved just don’t realize it?????? Nice journalism.

  8. grpatriot says: Jul 5, 2011 2:43 PM

    All Lawyer Day! No reason for optimism. Some of them have an agenda. CBA isn’t one of their priorities…..

  9. iamgoodkid says: Jul 5, 2011 2:45 PM

    oh yeah then why did i just heard that nfl labor talks faces possible snag huh???????!!!!!

  10. bronco1st says: Jul 5, 2011 2:45 PM

    If a deal was agreed upon at this very moment, it would take three weeks or more before it was written out, signed by the owners, the Player’s Union reformed, voted on and signed and for the court cases to be resolved/withdrawn and approved by the courts. Three weeks minimum, that would be if everything is done at supersonic speed and of course we all know that a “week” is defined as 2-3 days of actual “work” by both sides. So throw in another 3-5 regular 7 day weeks to allow for the snail pace perception of progress by the figure heads and that puts the official end of the lockout well into August. Add in a blink of the eye for a free agency period along with virtually no training camp, and they still will have to cancel some or all of the preseason games just to begin the regular season close to on time. Screw em all…

  11. str82dvd says: Jul 5, 2011 2:50 PM

    My prediction stands as Done Deal by Friday.

  12. hystoracle says: Jul 5, 2011 2:54 PM

    And an Hour after that we’ll be back to: “All that’s left are the signatures”

    What a seesaw of speculation. Let me know when they have the press conference announcing a deal. Until then stick with stalking the player organized minicamps. — I wonder how many coaches are concerned about all the bad habits that will be picked up during these “minicamps” that they are going to have reverse.

  13. jimmysee says: Jul 5, 2011 3:11 PM

    No bathroom breaks until the deal is done.

  14. winskins says: Jul 5, 2011 3:12 PM

    Any “Grand Canyon” appears, and I’m throwing in Jeffrey Kessler.

  15. CKL says: Jul 5, 2011 3:13 PM

    I hate that whenever I hear or read the word “schism” all I ever think of is Favre.

  16. fink says: Jul 5, 2011 3:17 PM

    When the two sides snipe at each other, they’re not making any progress.

    When neither side says a damn thing about how it’s going, they’re making progress.

  17. gregjennings85 says: Jul 5, 2011 3:21 PM

    I hate that whenever I hear or read the word “Favre” all I ever think of are Crocs.

  18. hwentworth says: Jul 5, 2011 3:23 PM

    Can we please just wait for an announcement to be made? Until then, just stop writing about it.

  19. pftstory says: Jul 5, 2011 3:28 PM

    Why predict anything? Why worry about what anyone predicts? Are you (the reader here) going to do anything different as far as football goes until you here a RESULT announced? If the predictions are not going to effect your actions, ignore them and wait. It will help your sanity.

    Example…. I want to hit a Cowboy road game. I’ll buy the tickets only after they announce a resolution. I will do nothing based on what any reporter predicts is going to happen.

  20. Brian says: Jul 5, 2011 3:35 PM

    Since it was just lawyers today, and MF you’ve been saying that eventually they’d need those folks to put in all the wherefore’s and therefore’s and heretofore’s in the language…

    maybe that’s what they are doing?

    Thursday is shaping up to be a big day.

  21. skins3yearplan says: Jul 5, 2011 3:39 PM

    Guys – wait! They said the deal was “CLOSER THAN PEOPLE THINK!” Booyah! Bring it! So psyched! F yeah! Cool. Neat.. Wow…

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…..

  22. Brian says: Jul 5, 2011 3:41 PM

    Since it was just lawyers today, and this blog has been saying that eventually they’d need those folks to put in all the wherefore’s and therefore’s and heretofore’s in the language…

    maybe that’s what they are doing?

    Thursday is shaping up to be a big day.

  23. bobwhitequail says: Jul 5, 2011 3:41 PM

    Since Kessler and Quinn are involved in the process today it’s likely for them to bring 2 things to the process:

    1) Lots of meaningless arguing details intended to delay any kind of agreement

    2) Details designed to inflame the process and piss off the owner’s side, and perhaps both sides, again with the intention to delay or blow up the process.

    So I would hazard to guess it will take 1-2 days probably to clean up Kessler’s mess.. Has anyone noticed that the “down” part of the rollercoaster almost always happens the day after (or late in the day of) Kessler’s involvement? Go back and check the articles on PFT, it’s amazing what a couple powerful poeple with the wrong intentions can do.

  24. skoobyfl says: Jul 5, 2011 3:44 PM

    Deal was just struck, you’ll “officially” here about it by mid tomorrow.

  25. bradjames33160 says: Jul 5, 2011 3:49 PM

    All I ever think about when I hear Favre is scumbag gloryhound

  26. ravensrule1208 says: Jul 5, 2011 3:59 PM

    Michael Silver’s article is a load of s**t .WE will all be OK with our teams to come limping into the regular season because of this lockout .I usually like this guys articles but this is a load .We are close it will be done by the end of August this guy should get a job with the weather channel. His definition of close is way different then mine.

  27. nudeman says: Jul 5, 2011 4:18 PM

    “We mention this because we’ve heard that a deal truly is close”

    Boy, there are some gullible people in the media, not to mention the fan base. Don’t believe it’s close, don’t believe it’s close, don’t believe it’s close.

    1000 times, DON’T BELIEVE IT

    Both sides are going to have to give, NOT a little, but A LOT. And every inch of “give” is worth hundreds of millions to both sides. You honestly think they’ll just do that voluntarily without staring down the other side and missing some games? Why? For the good of the game? For the fans? Because we love our football?

    Then I can’t help you. Sorry.

  28. theytukrjobs says: Jul 5, 2011 4:25 PM

    How in the hell would Silver know if the deal is “even closer than the people involved realize”?

    I’m trying to wrap my head around that. How can a reporter be more informed than those involved in the process of making the deal? Sounds like some BS analyst blowing smoke.

  29. revischrist24 says: Jul 5, 2011 4:45 PM

    here’s a prediction that will come true: NY Jets: Super Bowl XLIV Champions. Boom.

  30. vetdana says: Jul 5, 2011 4:56 PM

    How many times have we heard that ” a deal is very close “, …. over the last 4 months ?……Far Far, too many !!….This is not Horseshoes or Hand Grenades and close….[ but no cigar] means….
    ….get ready…….NOTHING !!!!!

  31. realfann says: Jul 5, 2011 5:19 PM

    I believe that both Silver and writers here are misunderstanding the significance of excluding sales tax from the revenue calculations.

    The deal offered by the players (months ago by the way) is to split gross revenue (and not revenue after subtraction of expenses) to avoid (amongst other things) the teams having to “prove” expenses by opening their books.

    A GREAT IDEA!!!!

    But Silver & writers here are quite happy to make an exception for ticket sales tax. In fact they think its stupid not to allow the exception.

    But once you allow an exception you’ve opened the door to a host of other exceptions. How about excluding tax on the TV rights? corporate tax on franchises?

    How about excluding players income tax?

    A very slippery slope indeed.

    Much better to exclude NOTHING and let the actual percentage split take care of ticket and corporate and TV and …. income taxes.

  32. seahawks670 says: Jul 5, 2011 5:48 PM

    By July 15 they will need more time to make up their mind. I’m starting to just give up on NFL with all their BS.

  33. isphet71 says: Jul 5, 2011 5:50 PM

    The player’s antitrust lawsuit is like a nuclear weapon in this otherwise conventional war. If they break talks and the anti-trust case succeeds, it will forever change the NFL, permanently.

    Sure the players would then walk into their newly conquered territory, but what would be left?

  34. gimmeabruschi says: Jul 5, 2011 7:22 PM

    Of course a deal is close. The players are on the edge of actually losing money. Don’t worry, this will take as long as assuring no game day checks are lost, and not one minute more.

    These players aren’t going to lose perhaps years of big money with the antitrust suit so some unknown future players will reap the benefit. C’mon. Would you?

  35. rolandsloan says: Jul 5, 2011 7:40 PM

    I’m SO sick of that picture…….

  36. CKL says: Jul 6, 2011 8:36 AM

    realfann says:
    Jul 5, 2011 5:19 PM
    I believe that both Silver and writers here are misunderstanding the significance of excluding sales tax from the revenue calculations.

    The deal offered by the players (months ago by the way) is to split gross revenue (and not revenue after subtraction of expenses) to avoid (amongst other things) the teams having to “prove” expenses by opening their books.

    A GREAT IDEA!!!!

    But Silver & writers here are quite happy to make an exception for ticket sales tax. In fact they think its stupid not to allow the exception.

    But once you allow an exception you’ve opened the door to a host of other exceptions. How about excluding tax on the TV rights? corporate tax on franchises?

    How about excluding players income tax?

    A very slippery slope indeed.

    Much better to exclude NOTHING and let the actual percentage split take care of ticket and corporate and TV and …. income taxes.

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    How is it a slippery slope when sales tax isn’t in any way, shape or form any type of revenue? All you are as a business is an entity that does the state’s work for them by collecting it and remitting it to the state. There are no loopholes or ways around it. It is NOT INCOME.

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