If some or all of it is cancelled, the players should throw back this math in the face of the owners and sue for triple their share (i.e. $400m times 3 = $1.2 billion) in damages.

No need to wait for missed regular game checks.

This was part of the last CBA. Both sides had the option to opt out of the CBA if it was not working for them. The previous CBA would not have been completed if not for this provision.

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2) owners instituted a lockout, the players did not ask them to.
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The owners also didn’t ask the players to walk away from the negotiating table, refuse to extend negotiations and decertify, BEFORE the CBA was officially ended. Yes, I said BEFORE the CBA ended.

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3) owners negotiated a bad faith television deal years ago, to collect money in the event of a lockout and cancelled season. That type of premeditation confirms to everyone but you that the owners, regardless of their reasoning (leverage), were willing to throw away a season or more to get their way. The players decertified this spring. Now you tell me who started this mess.
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I agree about the television deal, the owners were wrong to craft the deal as they did. However, the players telegraphed their intentions to decertify. In fact for the past few years it was a known fact that the players intended to decertify just like they did in the early 90′s. This would’ve forced the owners to defend multiple lawsuits. The owners recognized that this was the players’ goal and rightly planned for it by anticipating the need to use the lockout. Had the players stayed at the table months ago, there would not have been a need for the lockout or the lockout insurance from the networks to kick in.

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I understand it’s in the owners rights to institute a lockout and I agree it is an effective tool in negotiations, but let’s stop pretending the owners had nothing to do with this. The players decertified only because they were backed into a corner. I can’t blame them for trying to push back.
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Wrong. The players had ample opportunity to continue the negotiations (just like they had already been extended once) with a deal on the table from the owners. The players CHOSE to refuse to extend the talks, extend a counter-offer, then they CHOSE to decertify. It is a myth to state that the players were forced to decertify because they were locked out. The reverse is actually the truth.

Be nice to see some of those media geniuses own up to that mistaken forecast.

And also consign De Smith and Kessler to the ashbin of history, where they most certainly belong.

And also consign De Smith and Kessler to the ashbin of history, where they most certainly belong.

Maybe this rulling with be the final motivation the NFLPA needs to take the owners best offer.

One, those hoping the 8th Circuit would lift the lockout now understand it won’t.

Two, those hoping the 8th Circuit would end some of the litigation, now should realize that a long road of litigation still remains which could go either way in the end.

Hopefully those things add up to the two sides realizing the best possible world is one where they work out a deal at the negotiating table in the next few days.

Which has always been the best possible world, anyway.

Lets have the greed between these two parties take a back seat…the fans are driving this league anyway.

Don’t bite the hand that feeds you!

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Lets all prove that with a Fan lockout of the NFL !!!

Screw all these Greedy Ba$tard$ !!

1) owners opted out of current CBA. If there is no deal in place, it is their fault because they opted out.

2) owners instituted a lockout, the players did not ask them to.

3) owners negotiated a bad faith television deal years ago, to collect money in the event of a lockout and cancelled season. That type of premeditation confirms to everyone but you that the owners, regardless of their reasoning (leverage), were willing to throw away a season or more to get their way. The players decertified this spring. Now you tell me who started this mess.

I understand it’s in the owners rights to institute a lockout and I agree it is an effective tool in negotiations, but let’s stop pretending the owners had nothing to do with this. The players decertified only because they were backed into a corner. I can’t blame them for trying to push back. But at least it seems both parties have gotten over their pride and precious egos (sniffle) to work out a deal. Let’s hope this inconsequential ruling doesn’t derail any of that, or else both the owners and the players will be crying about losing millions in grand theft larceny money from the preseason.

Ok they blocked my first rebuttal. Can’t understand that as this site needs all the traffic it can get and we provide a great amount….

Anyways, my point is that the lockout is the fault of the players, always has been. At least a greater fault level is on them. My second point is that Nelson has already been over ruled once, what makes you think she wouldn’t be in future cases that may find the league liable? I understood the point of the article, I am thinking next step type stuff.

I honestly hope that this is ignored and that they continue to work on the progress that has already been made. I think that is what is likely to happen anyways.

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You couldn’t figure that out when Judge Nelson tried to illegally lift the lockout?

You mean you still haven’t canceled SNFLT?

That is a strange, and completely inaccurate statement.

If the lockout continues and the season is cancelled, their is still a possibility that the lockout can be declared illegal after the season is missed, which would leave the league open to huge damages- possibly up to 12 billion dollars.

Which is pretty clearly spelled out in the article, which I’m not really sure you actually read past the headline.

Maybe they feared (or heard) that one side or the other was dragging their feet a little holding out hope that the ruling would shift the leverage and they wanted to get the ruling out of the way so that wouldn’t be the case.

No matter- deal will done in advance of training camp opening, which is all that really matters.