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	<title>Comments on: Report: Hines Ward arrested for drunk driving</title>
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		<title>By: enders9</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1123090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[enders9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hilarious watching Steeler fans do whatever they can to defend Hines. 

To see a picture of Deb, just google &quot;fat steeler chick&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hilarious watching Steeler fans do whatever they can to defend Hines. </p>
<p>To see a picture of Deb, just google &#8220;fat steeler chick&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: footballrulz</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1122433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[footballrulz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thephantomstranger says: 
Jul 11, 2011 1:40 PM 
marilynpost says:
Jul 10, 2011 12:02 PM
I meant “puiblically” just typed it too fast- sorry
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I’m saving this one for my collection.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thephantomstranger says:<br />
Jul 11, 2011 1:40 PM<br />
marilynpost says:<br />
Jul 10, 2011 12:02 PM<br />
I meant “puiblically” just typed it too fast- sorry<br />
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<p>I’m saving this one for my collection.<br />
********************************************Priceless</p>
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		<title>By: supashug</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1122080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[supashug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.0218 = drunk, end of story]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.0218 = drunk, end of story</p>
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		<title>By: ravenator</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1121330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what exactly did Rice say that was so bad? That a DUI is not a good look? Considering he had a family member killed by a drunk driver, he sure could have said a whole lot worse. People defending Hines Ward seriously need to readjust their outlook on life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what exactly did Rice say that was so bad? That a DUI is not a good look? Considering he had a family member killed by a drunk driver, he sure could have said a whole lot worse. People defending Hines Ward seriously need to readjust their outlook on life.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1120820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tombradysponytail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@thephantomstranger says: 
Jul 9, 2011 11:54 PM 

Classless. And we know you’re just trying to get her to post a picture
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I gotta say. You might be the only one, worldwide, that wants to see a picture of Deb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thephantomstranger says:<br />
Jul 9, 2011 11:54 PM </p>
<p>Classless. And we know you’re just trying to get her to post a picture<br />
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<p>I gotta say. You might be the only one, worldwide, that wants to see a picture of Deb.</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1120769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marilynpost says: 
Jul 10, 2011 12:02 PM 
I meant “puiblically” just typed it too fast- sorry
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I&#039;m saving this one for my collection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marilynpost says:<br />
Jul 10, 2011 12:02 PM<br />
I meant “puiblically” just typed it too fast- sorry<br />
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<p>I&#8217;m saving this one for my collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Kave Krew</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1120175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kave Krew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And thank you marilynpost for concluding the Steeler Fan Legal Interpretation Club show..........

We&#039;ll be back next time very soon i&#039;m sure with another episode with a new or repeated Steeler offender and the  &quot;class act&quot; team&#039;s legal trouble.......

Good night everybody......drive safe.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thank you marilynpost for concluding the Steeler Fan Legal Interpretation Club show&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be back next time very soon i&#8217;m sure with another episode with a new or repeated Steeler offender and the  &#8220;class act&#8221; team&#8217;s legal trouble&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Good night everybody&#8230;&#8230;drive safe&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: marilynpost</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marilynpost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant &quot;puiblically&quot; just typed it too fast- sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8220;puiblically&#8221; just typed it too fast- sorry</p>
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		<title>By: marilynpost</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marilynpost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s NOT pubically crucify Hines Ward for what must be a good cop&#039;s ERROR. In GA it is known that breathalzer is NOT FOOLPROOF; plenty of dui&#039;s are mistaken test results and get dismissed; 

If you don&#039;t know Hines Ward&#039;s amazing football credentials in GA (college) let me mention: he was under tight watch his entire college days and NO INCIDENCES- NOTHING. as a NFL Player NO PRIOR INCIDENCES - Nothing!

I know that the mere thought of having to play nfl football with Roethlisberger would cause a normal nfl player to turn to drink for comfort- 
but Hines Ward is Innocent.

This case will be dismissed for lack of evidence.
Too bad #86 must play the great game with Roethlisberger- when #86 is a better QB everyday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s NOT pubically crucify Hines Ward for what must be a good cop&#8217;s ERROR. In GA it is known that breathalzer is NOT FOOLPROOF; plenty of dui&#8217;s are mistaken test results and get dismissed; </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know Hines Ward&#8217;s amazing football credentials in GA (college) let me mention: he was under tight watch his entire college days and NO INCIDENCES- NOTHING. as a NFL Player NO PRIOR INCIDENCES &#8211; Nothing!</p>
<p>I know that the mere thought of having to play nfl football with Roethlisberger would cause a normal nfl player to turn to drink for comfort-<br />
but Hines Ward is Innocent.</p>
<p>This case will be dismissed for lack of evidence.<br />
Too bad #86 must play the great game with Roethlisberger- when #86 is a better QB everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: waynefontes</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waynefontes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, between this and Shin Soo Choo&#039;s DUI, not the best year for Koreans (or half-Koreans) in American sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, between this and Shin Soo Choo&#8217;s DUI, not the best year for Koreans (or half-Koreans) in American sports.</p>
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		<title>By: waynefontes</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waynefontes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, between this and Shin Soo Choo&#039;s DUI, not the best year for Koreans (or half-Koreans) in Americna sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, between this and Shin Soo Choo&#8217;s DUI, not the best year for Koreans (or half-Koreans) in Americna sports.</p>
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		<title>By: opiedamus</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[opiedamus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[robsterny says: 
Jul 9, 2011 3:23 PM 
LOL…I love this crap about ..”he was charged,not convicted”..and ..”there is a big differance”…Oh really!!…I dont know anyone who was “charged with a D.U.I.” that didnt get “convicted” or plead to driving while impared. ..Either way you screwed up!..You drove a vehicle under the influence…case closed.
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The authorities assume that you&#039;ll accept a plea, that&#039;s part of the game.  It costs so much to defend yourself in both time and money that most folks just take the path of least resistence.  If you have the time and can find enough money and fight an erroneous charge, you can and will win.


@ Bubby Brister:  I didn&#039;t give him hell for the supposed DUI charge, I won&#039;t give him hell for texting and driving.  However, it does prove my point.  He was arrested and charged with a DUI, yet he might &quot;only&quot; be guilty of Texting while driving.  HUGE difference and one that you&#039;d think the arresting officer would be able to distinguish.
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melonnhead says: 
Jul 9, 2011 3:28 PM 
The next step is, and what they want, prohibition. That worked so well the first time around…..

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But alcohol sales bring in so much tax revenue. Way to argue out of both sides of your mouth, champ.

When talking about a topic, it might be important to fully understand the context.  MADD makes zero money off alcohol sales there &quot;CHAMP.&quot;  The gov&#039;t makes money off both sides of the situation - arrests and taxes on alcohol sales.  MADD are the one&#039;s that want to end alcohol availability.  Way to just pop off, though, on your part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robsterny says:<br />
Jul 9, 2011 3:23 PM<br />
LOL…I love this crap about ..”he was charged,not convicted”..and ..”there is a big differance”…Oh really!!…I dont know anyone who was “charged with a D.U.I.” that didnt get “convicted” or plead to driving while impared. ..Either way you screwed up!..You drove a vehicle under the influence…case closed.<br />
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<p>The authorities assume that you&#8217;ll accept a plea, that&#8217;s part of the game.  It costs so much to defend yourself in both time and money that most folks just take the path of least resistence.  If you have the time and can find enough money and fight an erroneous charge, you can and will win.</p>
<p>@ Bubby Brister:  I didn&#8217;t give him hell for the supposed DUI charge, I won&#8217;t give him hell for texting and driving.  However, it does prove my point.  He was arrested and charged with a DUI, yet he might &#8220;only&#8221; be guilty of Texting while driving.  HUGE difference and one that you&#8217;d think the arresting officer would be able to distinguish.<br />
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<p>melonnhead says:<br />
Jul 9, 2011 3:28 PM<br />
The next step is, and what they want, prohibition. That worked so well the first time around…..</p>
<p>————————————————————</p>
<p>But alcohol sales bring in so much tax revenue. Way to argue out of both sides of your mouth, champ.</p>
<p>When talking about a topic, it might be important to fully understand the context.  MADD makes zero money off alcohol sales there &#8220;CHAMP.&#8221;  The gov&#8217;t makes money off both sides of the situation &#8211; arrests and taxes on alcohol sales.  MADD are the one&#8217;s that want to end alcohol availability.  Way to just pop off, though, on your part.</p>
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		<title>By: connie73</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[connie73]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ward has just hired Ben&#039;s PR people
They will hush everything up just like they did with Ben.   Then Ward will be off the hook
STAY CLASSY STEELERS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ward has just hired Ben&#8217;s PR people<br />
They will hush everything up just like they did with Ben.   Then Ward will be off the hook<br />
STAY CLASSY STEELERS</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@thephantomstranger ...

ROFL ... he does seem preoccupied with me now, doesn&#039;t he? Makes me feel a little guilty that I&#039;ve never given him a second thought ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thephantomstranger &#8230;</p>
<p>ROFL &#8230; he does seem preoccupied with me now, doesn&#8217;t he? Makes me feel a little guilty that I&#8217;ve never given him a second thought <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rooneyruleblues.

Classless. And we know you&#039;re just trying to get her to post a picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rooneyruleblues.</p>
<p>Classless. And we know you&#8217;re just trying to get her to post a picture.</p>
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		<title>By: rooneyruleblues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooneyruleblues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who else thinks Deb is fat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who else thinks Deb is fat?</p>
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		<title>By: rooneyruleblues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooneyruleblues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL.  FU CK YOU HINES!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  FU CK YOU HINES!</p>
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		<title>By: bensstinkyfingers</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bensstinkyfingers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ironic - The king of cheap shots, finally gets penalized fo too many cheap &quot;shots&quot; Even the Veteran leaders of P-Burg are irresponsible classless punks. That&#039;s Pissburg for ya!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic &#8211; The king of cheap shots, finally gets penalized fo too many cheap &#8220;shots&#8221; Even the Veteran leaders of P-Burg are irresponsible classless punks. That&#8217;s Pissburg for ya!</p>
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		<title>By: watermelon1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[watermelon1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamal Lewis, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward... 

I could continue with lesser known players...  but man... 

STAY OUT OF GEORGIA!  Those cops are out to get pro-athletes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamal Lewis, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward&#8230; </p>
<p>I could continue with lesser known players&#8230;  but man&#8230; </p>
<p>STAY OUT OF GEORGIA!  Those cops are out to get pro-athletes!</p>
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		<title>By: zsachse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zsachse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rooney&#039;s will cut him, they don&#039;t tolerate criminals]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rooney&#8217;s will cut him, they don&#8217;t tolerate criminals</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tell ...

I see what you&#039;re saying, but the players are still employed by the league, so I would think they&#039;re still subject to the PCP. But I don&#039;t know. It seems to me that Mike wrote an article on that issue near the beginning of the lockout. You might try searching PFT for &quot;personal conduct policy&quot; to see what articles come up. If he covered the subject, it would have been published since late March of this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tell &#8230;</p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying, but the players are still employed by the league, so I would think they&#8217;re still subject to the PCP. But I don&#8217;t know. It seems to me that Mike wrote an article on that issue near the beginning of the lockout. You might try searching PFT for &#8220;personal conduct policy&#8221; to see what articles come up. If he covered the subject, it would have been published since late March of this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bubby Brister ...

You&#039;re right. I was in full-on bulldozer mode and there you were standing in the road. Sorry about that.

Your point is well-taken, too. Fellow Steelers fans eviscerated me for arguing the case facts last year when Ben was an embarrassment. Then no charges were filed, things settled down, he came back to play well, and all was forgiven. But I expected as much. You just have to shrug and let it go. The great irony of the whole thing is that all these dimwits carry on about me &lt;em&gt;luvving&lt;/em&gt; Ben just when I&#039;m really not particularly fond of the guy. He didn&#039;t commit the crime and that&#039;s my only point, but he certainly has other behavioral issues and is extremely immature. So far he hasn&#039;t demonstrated the work ethic for that position and salary, either. Maybe he&#039;s changing; I hope so. But as of now, both Brister and Tomczak are ahead of him on my list of favorite Steeler QBs--by personality if not by talent :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bubby Brister &#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. I was in full-on bulldozer mode and there you were standing in the road. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>Your point is well-taken, too. Fellow Steelers fans eviscerated me for arguing the case facts last year when Ben was an embarrassment. Then no charges were filed, things settled down, he came back to play well, and all was forgiven. But I expected as much. You just have to shrug and let it go. The great irony of the whole thing is that all these dimwits carry on about me <em>luvving</em> Ben just when I&#8217;m really not particularly fond of the guy. He didn&#8217;t commit the crime and that&#8217;s my only point, but he certainly has other behavioral issues and is extremely immature. So far he hasn&#8217;t demonstrated the work ethic for that position and salary, either. Maybe he&#8217;s changing; I hope so. But as of now, both Brister and Tomczak are ahead of him on my list of favorite Steeler QBs&#8211;by personality if not by talent <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[drgfri says: 
@deb

You guys need to check into reality. You are defending the wrong guy at the wrong time. Just shut up now.
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Read my posts before you address me. I haven&#039;t &quot;defended&quot; Hines at all. Most of my posts haven&#039;t even been about this incident.

Yes, you should shut up now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drgfri says:<br />
@deb</p>
<p>You guys need to check into reality. You are defending the wrong guy at the wrong time. Just shut up now.<br />
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<p>Read my posts before you address me. I haven&#8217;t &#8220;defended&#8221; Hines at all. Most of my posts haven&#8217;t even been about this incident.</p>
<p>Yes, you should shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubby Brister</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubby Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb, you missed my point.

I&#039;m a huge Ben supporter. I believe he&#039;s innocent. Hell, I believe Bettis and Batch were as well. But there were (and let&#039;s be honest, still are) tons and tons of fans who, like lots of people on this very comment thread, ignored the lack of evidence and wanted him off the team in favor of starting Charlie Batch, who had similar baseless allegations against him. Nobody EVER talked about those allegations against Batch OR the ones against Bettis during the whole Ben fiasco because they are beloved in Pittsburgh. 

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and Mendenhall&#039;s overblown tweets had people banning together to get him off the team. Now, IF Ward is in fact guilty of a DUI (and it appears he&#039;s not and I hope he&#039;s not) I will not defend him. But I know for a fact that virtually every Steelers fan in existence would. Maybe you wouldn&#039;t, I can&#039;t say. But it just sickens me that the same Steelers fans who cried for months that Ben was a disgrace to Pittsburgh would defend somebody who actually committed a potentially deadly crime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb, you missed my point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge Ben supporter. I believe he&#8217;s innocent. Hell, I believe Bettis and Batch were as well. But there were (and let&#8217;s be honest, still are) tons and tons of fans who, like lots of people on this very comment thread, ignored the lack of evidence and wanted him off the team in favor of starting Charlie Batch, who had similar baseless allegations against him. Nobody EVER talked about those allegations against Batch OR the ones against Bettis during the whole Ben fiasco because they are beloved in Pittsburgh. </p>
<p>Fast forward to a few weeks ago and Mendenhall&#8217;s overblown tweets had people banning together to get him off the team. Now, IF Ward is in fact guilty of a DUI (and it appears he&#8217;s not and I hope he&#8217;s not) I will not defend him. But I know for a fact that virtually every Steelers fan in existence would. Maybe you wouldn&#8217;t, I can&#8217;t say. But it just sickens me that the same Steelers fans who cried for months that Ben was a disgrace to Pittsburgh would defend somebody who actually committed a potentially deadly crime.</p>
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		<title>By: tell</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Deb

I understand Goddell is a tyrant, etc..

BUT...two entirely different circumstances between Ben and Hines.  And...the CBA is part of the contract between the NFL and the NFLPA, correct...?  

And currently, there is NO contract between the two. 

A lawyer, even Edgar Snyder (yeah, I&#039;m from the &#039;Burgh), could reasonably argue and prove that the Per. Cond. provision was not in effect because a relationship did not exist between the two entities.  

If that were the case, then the commish could punish for traffic tickets 5 years ago if unearthed...if the player was out of the game...or in college..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Deb</p>
<p>I understand Goddell is a tyrant, etc..</p>
<p>BUT&#8230;two entirely different circumstances between Ben and Hines.  And&#8230;the CBA is part of the contract between the NFL and the NFLPA, correct&#8230;?  </p>
<p>And currently, there is NO contract between the two. </p>
<p>A lawyer, even Edgar Snyder (yeah, I&#8217;m from the &#8216;Burgh), could reasonably argue and prove that the Per. Cond. provision was not in effect because a relationship did not exist between the two entities.  </p>
<p>If that were the case, then the commish could punish for traffic tickets 5 years ago if unearthed&#8230;if the player was out of the game&#8230;or in college..</p>
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		<title>By: dempsey63</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dempsey63]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mrcowpatty says:

@dempsey63,

86,

Was a cooks way of telling the waitress that a certain item on the menu was no longer available back in the day of cafes and diners. For instant,”86 on the roast beef.”

* * * * *

You are correct. It is also slang for taking someone&#039;s life, as in a Mob hit. That is why I added the attribution from Answerbag about a bartender refusing to serve a customer who has had too many drinks, so that Hines Ward fans wouldn&#039;t jump to the conclusion that I wanted to see him bumped off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrcowpatty says:</p>
<p>@dempsey63,</p>
<p>86,</p>
<p>Was a cooks way of telling the waitress that a certain item on the menu was no longer available back in the day of cafes and diners. For instant,”86 on the roast beef.”</p>
<p>* * * * *</p>
<p>You are correct. It is also slang for taking someone&#8217;s life, as in a Mob hit. That is why I added the attribution from Answerbag about a bartender refusing to serve a customer who has had too many drinks, so that Hines Ward fans wouldn&#8217;t jump to the conclusion that I wanted to see him bumped off.</p>
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		<title>By: drgfri</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drgfri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@deb
@paulieorkid

You guys need to check into reality.  You are defending the wrong guy at the wrong time.  Just shut up now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@deb<br />
@paulieorkid</p>
<p>You guys need to check into reality.  You are defending the wrong guy at the wrong time.  Just shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: jjbadd</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jjbadd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HaHaHa&#039;...so they got overgrown Webster. He looks like a giant Emmanual Lewis!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HaHaHa&#8217;&#8230;so they got overgrown Webster. He looks like a giant Emmanual Lewis!</p>
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		<title>By: halftermguv</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[halftermguv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No excuse for DUI, call a cab. 

One has to laugh at the twisted (il)logic used here to paint an entire organization as being evil.

Anyone who hasn&#039;t drove under the influence of alcohol, been distracted by talking on a cell phone gets to hurl the next verbal barrage.....cue the crickets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No excuse for DUI, call a cab. </p>
<p>One has to laugh at the twisted (il)logic used here to paint an entire organization as being evil.</p>
<p>Anyone who hasn&#8217;t drove under the influence of alcohol, been distracted by talking on a cell phone gets to hurl the next verbal barrage&#8230;..cue the crickets.</p>
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		<title>By: hobartbaker</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/09/report-hines-ward-arrested-for-drunk-driving/#comment-1119080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hobartbaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hines asked the cops if they knew who he was. 

Cop said, &quot;Sure, you&#039;re the guy from the Mr. Clean commercial. Man it looks like you had a real hard day of work, but you shoulda gone straight home and scrubbed off instead of stopping at the bar.&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hines asked the cops if they knew who he was. </p>
<p>Cop said, &#8220;Sure, you&#8217;re the guy from the Mr. Clean commercial. Man it looks like you had a real hard day of work, but you shoulda gone straight home and scrubbed off instead of stopping at the bar.&#8221;.</p>
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