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Players, owners return to talks on Wednesday

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As the NFL and the players attempt to iron out whatever wrinkles remain in the labor negotiations, the lawyers are expected to spend Tuesday dwelling on the details before the principals return to the room.

Both Albert Breer of NFL Network and Sal “45 Down” Paolantonio of ESPN reports that the owners and players, along with Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith, will be back on Wednesday.

Per Breer, the lawyers for the two sides met for roughly five hours on Monday, after caucusing privately.  They’ll get together again tomorrow.

Paolantonio says that mediator Arthur Boylan will monitor progress via e-mail, and that he’s available for “a short phone call or two” if necessary.

Though we respect Boylan’s ability to take his vacation, speaking from the perspective of a guy who’s currently on vacation, there’s plenty of time in the day to take a short phone call or two.

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33 Responses to “Players, owners return to talks on Wednesday”
  1. gregski79 says: Jul 11, 2011 9:59 PM

    These numbnuts should not be relying on Boylan help or direction. Throw away the diapers and get this deal done!!!

  2. tbbucs09 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:00 PM

    Glad they’re taking this seriously and only meeting 3 times a week!

  3. footballfanatic3431 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:09 PM

    Wednesday? Awesome!

    Why meet Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday when you can put it off to Wednesday.

    They might as well walk into the meeting with signs on their backs that say “No Rush”.

  4. pkma says: Jul 11, 2011 10:10 PM

    I would fire Boylan’s boss for giving him a vacation at this time…

  5. chatham10 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:12 PM

    This sounds positive but this evening on Total Access Jason LaConfor(sp) was really negative and thinks they are not close. Who is telling the truth or I should say “who is trying to guess right”

  6. dolphins1121 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:14 PM

    A new deal WILL be signed and ratified by July 21st AT THE LATEST. This is almost over.

  7. trbowman says: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 PM

    Thursdays headline – “Report -progress made on rookie wage scale.”
    Fridays headline – “NFL hits roadblock, will break for the weekend.”
    Mondays headline – “Hall of Fame game likely to be missed.”
    July 21st headline – “First week of preseason cancelled, growing pessimism in labor talks.”

  8. barronhastoholdorakpo says: Jul 11, 2011 10:23 PM

    Wonder what the consulting fee is on a short phone call or two while on vacation? just sayin…

  9. catman72 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:29 PM

    Just get it done already, sheesh!

  10. toocooljoecool says: Jul 11, 2011 10:32 PM

    Of course..take your time..make us wait some more..

  11. p4hbiz says: Jul 11, 2011 10:37 PM

    Who cares.

  12. canetic says: Jul 11, 2011 10:41 PM

    Why rush back to work? Take off until Labor Day. You millionaires and billionaires deserve it.

  13. tjacks7 says: Jul 11, 2011 10:52 PM

    Good. One dumbass is out if the picture, hopefully he doesn’t have any cell reception. Now if we could just shake a couple more of these douche bags and get the guys who can/are actually trying to get a deal done together.

  14. seabike1234 says: Jul 11, 2011 11:18 PM

    Get a life guys & gals….its simply a game. Grow up and find something worthy…like the Cub Scouts, even your wife or hubby…god forbid if you spend this much emotional energy on your kids….duh! Single? then get a life!

    The power of marketing – everything communicates and too many of you are buying it. Owners own you and you don’t know it – FREEDOM to be an NFL drone fan…so sad!

  15. valman61 says: Jul 11, 2011 11:22 PM

    The mediator is a government employee who earns a salary, not consulting fees. And I honestly view the lack of urgency as a sense of comfort between both sides that this will be done on time. Worst case it is posturing and actually drags this out. Using logic I would assume this is the time to take final positions and make final concessions to close before they have to cancel things and really start an outrage amongst even the casual fan base. Here’s to hoping those in charge share in my logic.

  16. patswhatsup says: Jul 11, 2011 11:23 PM

    @pkma

    The dude’s had his vacation scheduled for many months… Fire DeMoron and Goodell…… After the CBA is done…

    I think boylan deserves credit for allowing any portion of his vacation to be tainted by this foolishness.

    Ring ring…
    Boylan: Hello?
    DeMo & Goodell in unison: He started it!!!
    Boylan: FML

  17. gnorules says: Jul 11, 2011 11:42 PM

    Anyone want to take bets on which happens first… a new CBA is agreed upon or Antonio Cromartie has another kid?

  18. chizzle20 says: Jul 11, 2011 11:51 PM

    Go ahead NFL, tak your time getting a deal done. I as a fan will also take my time in buying anymore NFL tickets, NFL SundayTicket, or NFL merchandise.

  19. Sayre Bedinger says: Jul 12, 2011 12:01 AM

    NCAA Football 12 comes out tomorrow, so I will be forgetting all about the lockout for a while…But it’s really dumb that these guys are skipping four days a week and saying that a deal is going to get done soon.

  20. kalispellmt says: Jul 12, 2011 12:11 AM

    Sequester these clowns like they do some juries. That way, if they don’t get a deal done, they will at least be as miserable as they are making us. Did I mention no air conditioning?

  21. bpjensen says: Jul 12, 2011 2:05 AM

    This whole thing now seems like both sides are afraid to sign the deal because they don’t want to wake up the next day thinking the other side got the better of them and looking bad to their constituents. So, they come up with these nitpicky little things and make them into “major” issues. The rookie wage debate is ridiculous.

  22. sdboltaction says: Jul 12, 2011 2:52 AM

    I’ve got a case of (good, not piss) beer on this thing being resolved by the end of July… better make it happen, a holes!!!!!

  23. hanktheking says: Jul 12, 2011 5:06 AM

    Boylan taking a vacation during the most important time of the negotiations …sign of progress?

  24. saints25 says: Jul 12, 2011 6:43 AM

    awesome.Why dont they tell the truth,that the ..were really wasting time,but it looks good to the fans.What A bunch of BS,grown men who will not get anything done,again this week…:-)

  25. dewiseman says: Jul 12, 2011 6:47 AM

    Short history of 2011 lockout:
    1. NFL declares lockout
    2. Players union decertifies
    3. Minnesota district court rules in favor of players and ends lockout.
    4. MF calls for concessions by NFL
    5. NFL appeals
    6. 8th Circuit grants NFL temporary stay of district court’s order. Both sides return to bargaining table.
    7. MF calls for concessions by NFL
    8. 8th Circuit grants NFL permanent stay of district court’s order.
    9. MF calls for concessions by NFL
    10. Players union complains that it is tired of making all the concessions.
    11. Players union continues to make concessions.
    12. On or about July 21: Agreement announced. Final score: NFL 42 Players union: 7

  26. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Jul 12, 2011 7:42 AM

    Fantasy draft is scheduled… get this sh*t done ASAP!

  27. lovesportsandsurfing says: Jul 12, 2011 7:55 AM

    That old judge on vacation…ok if he needs to be talked to, he will be the old guy feeding the squirrels at the park….just have some little dweeb like LaCanfora dial the numbers on that hand held device he has, then Jason tells the judge, “its ok theres no wires attached, I promise you they can hear you”….then maybe the friggin deal can get done,..and the squirrels can resume their day with the silly old man walkin around the park looking disturbing in that robe.

  28. vahawker says: Jul 12, 2011 8:28 AM

    dewiseman..pretty unwise,mam…union decertified first, ran to the nanny state to do what DeMoron wasn’t man enough to do on his own, THEN came the lockout.

    pkma…bad news…most people don’t care about the lockout one way or the other…it just isn’t important when, if, or how this gets settled except to hard core fans.

    Boylan deserves his vacation, and if I were him, I wouldn’t make myself available at all. These idiots aren’t concerned enough to meet more than 2 times a week, why should my family put out because the because of them?

    Real leaders would have had this done by now.

  29. tomsd1 says: Jul 12, 2011 8:34 AM

    Mike – in all seriousness – a media guy I know said an agent very connected with the talks told him that these issues remain to be negotiated. What think ye?

    Owners want 500M off top of pie
    Owners want 4-Franchise-Transition Tags per year
    Owners want Rookie Pool cut from 50% of last years total
    Union now wants opt-out clause after 3-years of new deal if they don’t like way it is working
    Union wants elimination of all Franchise-Transition tags
    Union wants elimination of any form of Free Agent supplemental draft pick compensation

  30. skinsfaninillinois says: Jul 12, 2011 8:57 AM

    It’s time for these bozos to get a clue that the NFL needs the fans more than the fans need the NFL. This mess is going to ruin the loyalty of the fan base everywhere. I hope all this procrastination and laziness leads to the loss of the entire season. Then, maybe, these guys will finally feel a sense of urgency.

  31. easyeddie says: Jul 12, 2011 9:39 AM

    tomsd1 says:
    Mike – in all seriousness – a media guy I know said an agent very connected with the talks told him that these issues remain to be negotiated. What think ye?

    Owners want 500M off top of pie
    Owners want 4-Franchise-Transition Tags per year
    Owners want Rookie Pool cut from 50% of last years total
    Union now wants opt-out clause after 3-years of new deal if they don’t like way it is working
    Union wants elimination of all Franchise-Transition tags
    Union wants elimination of any form of Free Agent supplemental draft pick compensation
    ——————————————

    Then why hasn’t all this been reported?

  32. meyerla says: Jul 12, 2011 9:41 AM

    It’s amazing this hasn’t been resolved yet. I mean the players and owners are personally working almost 2 WHOLE DAYS per week on it.

  33. m2karateman says: Jul 12, 2011 10:17 AM

    Niether the players nor the owners have been in a hurry. There is no money to be made by the owners in the off-season. As a matter of fact they used this lock out to reduce staff and save money. For the players, they don’t have to go through as many workouts, but will still get game checks as long as they agree to a deal on time. By putting this off, everybody wins…….except the fans.

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