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James Harrison on Roethlisberger: You aren’t Peyton Manning, you just get paid like him

James Harrison, Mohamed Massaquoi AP

We’ve heard Steelers linebacker James Harrison trash Roger Goodell before, so his words about the Commissioner in this month’s Men’s Journal weren’t exactly shocking.  (Although adding urine and homophobia to the equation was a nice touch.)

The more surprising and possibly lasting comments Harrison made were about quarterback Ben Roethlisberger’s performance in the Super Bowl last year.

“Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again,” Harrison said. “Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does.”

Awesome.  Roethlisberger could point out Harrison made very little impact for much of the game, finishing with one tackle.  The Steelers just didn’t get consistent pressure on Aaron Rodgers until it was too late.

It’s at this point in the news cycle where Steelers coach Mike Tomlin would call Harrison and tell him to zip it for the sake of the team. Of course, Tomlin can’t talk to Harrison until the lockout ends.  Heck, this interview (and this picture) may not have gotten past a Steelers P.R. staffer if there was no lockout in place.

At least the work stoppage was good for something.

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  1. silvernblackpa says: Jul 13, 2011 10:36 AM

    You’re right, James, Roethlisberger isn’t Manning.

    Ben has 2 Super Bowl rings and Manning has 1.

    I’m a lifelong rabid Steelers hater, but facts is facts.

  2. southbeachtalent says: Jul 13, 2011 10:38 AM

    Nice, that should really go over well in the locker room….

  3. imjinbrdgr says: Jul 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    One tackle? Glass houses Harry.

  4. giveseanpaytonhisjuicyfruit says: Jul 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    Will James Harrison be the first player to claim someone hacked his brain?

  5. iflounder says: Jul 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    now ya’ll just hatin’ on my man lil’ jh.

  6. 34sweetness says: Jul 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    He’s got more rings than manning. Just saying.

  7. thevillain112 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:41 AM

    If anyone is allowed to get away with comments like that, it’s James Harrison. Dude is crazy. If I were Ben I would act like nothing happened…

  8. SpartaChris says: Jul 13, 2011 10:41 AM

    Classless to call out your teammates like that, especially when you yourself had little to no impact in that game…

  9. bucs5heels50pistons7wings40tigers24 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:42 AM

    Burned!

  10. tombradysponytail says: Jul 13, 2011 10:42 AM

    Ha! Looks like the Steelers are right on track for collapsing the year after a crushing defeat in the Super Bowl!

  11. rayvens says: Jul 13, 2011 10:43 AM

    wow, this guy has completely lost it……its to the point where I feel sorry for the Steelers, and im a Ravens Fan.

  12. aweber102405 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:43 AM

    wow what a great teammate….does this guy ever shut up…

  13. bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 13, 2011 10:44 AM

    Anything coming from that guys mouth I would take as a grain of salt. I have dropped Turds smarter than Harrison. The Steelers are becoming the most Dysfunctional team in the NFL. Proud to be a Browns Fan.

  14. carlgerbschmidt says: Jul 13, 2011 10:46 AM

    This is my third favorite stealers moment in the past 12 months. My first is when they lost to the Packers in the Super Bowl. My second is when Mike (Blanky) Tomlin trotted out Shaun (Worst. Kicker. Ever.) Suishsam to kick that 52 yarder. I’m still laughing about that!

  15. boedavis says: Jul 13, 2011 10:46 AM

    Class-less fool…who would want to play this dirtball. I hope you do retire, I’m sure no one would care.

  16. sprest83 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:46 AM

    I wish this guy would just leave.

  17. boothisman says: Jul 13, 2011 10:46 AM

    As Jim Ross would say, this has gotten ‘bowling shoe ugly’.

    Is that picture from his rap cd?

  18. allinblindsevenduece says: Jul 13, 2011 10:47 AM

    What a week for this guy. Stay classy Harrison

  19. randysavage4ever says: Jul 13, 2011 10:48 AM

    HARRISONS TD WAS IRRELEVANT IN THE SB BECAUSE EVEN WITH THAT THE CARDS TOOK THE LEAD LATE IN THE 4TH…

    IT WAS ROTH-BERGER WHO MADE ALL THE PLAYS WITH HIS FEET AND ARM ALONG WITH HOLMES TO WIN THE CLUTCH MOMENTS AT THE END AND CAPTURE A TITLE…

    WITHOUT BENS HEROICS HARRISON HAS A GREAT INT FOR A TD BUT NO RING…

    also bens shoe lace tackle in the colts 06 AFC playoff game…

    bettis fumbles, big ben saves the day…

    WHY R WE QUESTIONING BIG BEN- HES CRUCIAL ON THE FIELD…he has 2 rings!

    ha

    and i hate the steelers, im just being real

  20. hobartbaker says: Jul 13, 2011 10:49 AM

    A few years back all the Steelers fans were so smug about their “model” franchise. Now it’s a joke. They could win the next three Super Bowls and still be generally despised and ridiculed.

  21. pkrjones says: Jul 13, 2011 10:49 AM

    YOUR sub-par SB performance has already been duly noted, why not trash your teammates. Keep in mind you were virtually shut-down by a 35 yr. old LT with 2 shot knees.
    You’re no Clay Matthews, even though you get paid more…

  22. b7p19 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:50 AM

    It’s gonna be tough for Steeler fans to stick up for him when he’s trashing his teamates. He’s about to lose the respect of the one city he still (kinda) had it in.

  23. steelerfan77 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:51 AM

    I know we sucked in the Superbowl on both sides of the ball. We did not play to our best potential at all, but Harrison needs to forget about that and move on to being better this year.

    Keep youe mouth shut…please!!

  24. jcg23 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:52 AM

    Love it!!

  25. mvp43 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:52 AM

    What a tool…………….

    Roethlisberger has made more big plays for the Steelers than Harrison ever will. Aaron Rodgers made you look like a pop-warner player you jag.

  26. aldashex86 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:53 AM

    Harrison is just mad because he isn’t the best linebacker on his team anymore….he may not even be the 2nd best. Trade this idiot to the Raiders where no1 will pay attention to him.

  27. hobartbaker says: Jul 13, 2011 10:53 AM

    Harrison’s I.Q. is somewhere south of the pitbulls that maul his kids.

  28. terripet says: Jul 13, 2011 10:53 AM

    Harrison knows who the best qb is and that is MANNING

  29. jbpanthers says: Jul 13, 2011 10:54 AM

    It’ll be interesting to see what the Steelers do with him, I don’t think they’ll take disrespecting their franchise QB lightly.

  30. duanethomas says: Jul 13, 2011 10:54 AM

    WoW! James to Ben: “theres a bus leaving in 5 minutes…be under it”…LOL.

    Later today he will say he was misquoted and the statements were taken out of context.

    10:1 Odds on that.

  31. biggerballz says: Jul 13, 2011 10:55 AM

    wow the steelers are imploding before the season even started, first ward’s dui now this, i love it.

  32. allascowboys says: Jul 13, 2011 10:55 AM

    Harrison is a waste of space

  33. jetfaninla says: Jul 13, 2011 10:56 AM

    What a d-bag. I’m curious what type of reception he’ll get when he goes back into the locker room.

  34. jamaltimore says: Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM

    Finally he’s starting to make some sense!

  35. turtlefox1 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM

    Wow, this current Steeler team has single-handedly changed how this franchise is viewed. Roethlisberger, Harrison, Mendenhall, and most recently Hines Ward. I’m from Pittsburgh and this is just flat out shameful.

  36. bradymancrush10 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM

    Big Ben 2 Super Bowls
    Manning 1 Super Bowl

  37. fflnick says: Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM

    Harrison is proof the NFL was too slow to react in preventing a slowdown in concuss hits. The guy is clearly suffering from a head injury w/ these comments.
    Maybe the NFL can save the next guy.

  38. billinva says: Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM

    Does this guy want to get cut? Or worse yet, traded to some crappy team?

  39. shaggytoodle says: Jul 13, 2011 10:58 AM

    He has more rings is than Manning.

  40. 3octaveFart says: Jul 13, 2011 10:58 AM

    “You aren’t Peyton Manning”

    Thank god… Manning is an under-.500 playoff choker…

  41. johnnyjagfan says: Jul 13, 2011 10:58 AM

    He’s done in the burgh now. Just sealed his fate. Dissing Big Ben for a bad throw in a SUPER BOWL? It wasn’t week 3. Wait, oh yeah, Ben didn’t play in week 3. But even the reason why he didn’t play in week 3 wasn’t enough to tarnish the boy. Bad move, James Harrison. You threw a rock at the company car.

  42. ricofoy says: Jul 13, 2011 10:59 AM

    Harrison is a breath of fresh air. Calls it like he sees it and honestly, everything he said was pretty much true.

  43. buckhuckster says: Jul 13, 2011 11:01 AM

    Everytime you bad-mouth a teammate, Harrison, the terrorists win.

  44. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Jul 13, 2011 11:01 AM

    Ben Roethlisberger on James Harrison: You aren’t Ray Lewis and somehow you make more than him.

  45. rooneyruleblues says: Jul 13, 2011 11:03 AM

    The guy is pretty much speaking the truth. Everything he said about Goodell is true, Bruschi as well. Roethlisburger was more concerned about his easy targets after the game and who he could easily bed (rape).

  46. t16rich says: Jul 13, 2011 11:03 AM

    HAHAHAHA. Hey James. Keep your helmet up. Cause with the new head shot rules being enforced harder this year. I could see you being the reason your team loses some games.

  47. fflnick says: Jul 13, 2011 11:03 AM

    The Steelers are a mess. Their star quarterback was accused of rape. Their star wide receiver is arrested for DUI. The star rb was accusing the government of orchestrating 9/11 and now the star OLB is discussing urine and the commissioner in the same sentence.
    It does reflect poorly on head coach Mike Tomlin. They didn’t behave like this under Bill Cowher.

    Tomlin and the organization needs to take a firm stand. They have been too complicit in their response.

  48. folkcrusader says: Jul 13, 2011 11:04 AM

    I’m not a huge fan of Harrison, but I’ve always given him his props as a great player at his position. It’s one thing to take some shots at the comissioner, everyone wants to do that. Throwing your teammates under the bus when you had one tackle in the SB? While opposing QB throws for 300 on you? He doesn’t need to be pointing fingers.

  49. camcameronsucks says: Jul 13, 2011 11:04 AM

    Can this organization and it’s players get anymore classy? didnt think so…..

  50. camdenyard says: Jul 13, 2011 11:05 AM

    Ben ‘s girl problems.

    Mendenhall defens Bin Laden.

    Whines Hard blows a DUI.

    Harrison throws his QB under the bus.

    I’m loving this show. More, please!

  51. aldashex86 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:07 AM

    @youmadcauseimstylingonyou

    Furthermore: You aren’t Lamarr Woodley or DeMarcus Ware either you just get paid like them.

  52. Kaz says: Jul 13, 2011 11:07 AM

    I take it back. We all love J.H outside of the Steal City!
    Signed,
    Your new number 1 fan!

  53. mcconnellrules says: Jul 13, 2011 11:09 AM

    Don’t throw your teammate under the bus or anything.

  54. BlackandGoldMNBruinsFan says: Jul 13, 2011 11:10 AM

    Wow….classy picture. Suspension, anyone?

  55. Kaz says: Jul 13, 2011 11:10 AM

    Look at all the Stealer fans who was defending him in the other 2 posts coming out against him. Poor teamate, crazy, unstable, etc…smh. Just a post a go he was a “breath of fresh air”, “leader”, and “many around the league agree with him”…

  56. Spencer says: Jul 13, 2011 11:11 AM

    It’s not about who the better quarterback is. Every now and then Roethlisberger’s teammates let their true feelings about him be known. There is a clear lack of respect that shows that Roethlisberger is not the leader of that team.

  57. shaggytoodle says: Jul 13, 2011 11:12 AM

    I think he is angry due to the fact he is tight on cash, because the money he planned to save for the lockout, had to go towards paying his fines for illegal hits last season.

  58. melonnhead says: Jul 13, 2011 11:12 AM

    Sounds like Harrison wants to be the defensive version of TO… only TO performed exceptionally well in his Super Bowl loss. Harrison laid an egg.

  59. rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:14 AM

    Please chill with the “Steelers are imploding” talk. I have to listen to that every year. Last year was the same way when Ben got suspended and Santonio traded. I know it’s wishful thinking on your part but not likely. That being said Harrison needs to shut up.

  60. spartyfi says: Jul 13, 2011 11:19 AM

    To those of you saying he has more rings than Manning, let me remind you that Trent Dilfer has more rings than Dan Marino, does that mean he’s better? Of course not, just like Ben is NOT better than Manning (nor Brady, nor Brees, nor Rivers nor Rodgers nor even Vick — and I’m sure many others but this list was getting boring)!

  61. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 11:20 AM

    Apparently no one has mentioned to James that there’s no “I” in team.

    Despite being an outspoken critic of Goodell’s, even I found Harrison’s comments about the commissioner shocking in their classlessness and completely inappropriate for an NFL player. I’m sick of hearing about those fines. The situation was mishandled because it didn’t achieve the desired result of minimizing head injuries–not because it picked on poor James. That horse has been beaten to death. But you do not air team laundry in public and you certainly don’t throw teammates under the bus over a Super Bowl.

    As I’ve already said, this disrespectful behavior toward the league and his teammates–and by extension to Tomlin and the Rooneys–is out of control. I want him suspended at least for the Ravens game. And the rest of the team needs to keep their mouths shut.

  62. eaglesfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 11:20 AM

    Please tell me when James Harrison Shuts his mouth.

  63. mlarkin70 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:21 AM

    James Harrison is a miserable person.

  64. kwalk4780 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:22 AM

    Dude is a clown.

  65. kellyb9 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:22 AM

    “bradymancrush10 says:
    Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM
    Brady 3 Super Bowls
    Big Ben 2 Super Bowls
    Manning 1 Super Bowl”

  66. ubummer says: Jul 13, 2011 11:26 AM

    Hey Harrison, have you stopped beating your wife yet?

  67. minnesconsin says: Jul 13, 2011 11:27 AM

    dang, i hope he got paid well for the MJ interview, because that magazine is going to make an absolute killing off of him this month. the hits their website is taking right now? $$$$$

    i wonder if athletes will ever wise up. when the media comes to you looking for a story, they’re going to look to present the most shocking story they can milk out of you. it’s what sells. the good news is, you don’t have to give them anything if you don’t want to.

    ask yourself this question, James: who is going to be the primary beneficiary of this interview?

  68. rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:29 AM

    kellyb9 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:22 AM

    “bradymancrush10 says:
    Jul 13, 2011 10:57 AM
    Brady 3 Super Bowls *See Below
    Big Ben 2 Super Bowls
    Manning 1 Super Bowl”

    * – Illegal videotaping may have been partially responsible

  69. bison4me says: Jul 13, 2011 11:29 AM

    This guy needs a “No Man”, not now, but NOW!

  70. rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:31 AM

    If you put Rivers or Vick career wise above Roethlisberger you have a fantasy football fetish.

  71. kom2k10 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:31 AM

    Its not a coincidence that many people do not respect Big Ben as a QB. He’s a good QB, but far from “elite”. His defense got him 3 turnovers against the Jets in the opponents territory in the 2nd half alone!!… and yet the media credits Big Ben for being so “clutch” in the playoffs. I think most players recognize he’s a good QB on a great defensive team (which is why he was ranked in the 40′s by his peers), and now his own teammates are calling him out for being a fraud….

  72. dragonfly99 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:31 AM

    Wow. What’s going on in the Steelers organization? Roethlisberger’s off field problems, Mendenhall’s comments, Hines Ward DUI, and now this. It seems like Mike Tomlin and the Rooney family are losing control of this team. I wonder how this in-fighting will affect their performance next season. It is sad to see this happen to a once proud NFL franchise.

  73. rc33 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:33 AM

    Harrison’s a buffoon for having that picture taken. Idiot. Throwing your QB under the bus (for no apparent reason) after personally stinking it up the Super Bowl with one tackle? That takes some balls.
    Woodley’s clearly the best LB in Pittsburgh as it is.

  74. silverhornet says: Jul 13, 2011 11:36 AM

    James obviously realizes the shelf life of Steeler linebackers and knows now is the time to get it off his chest while he’s still on the team. Soon, he will go the way of Joey Porter, Kirland, etc.

  75. CKL says: Jul 13, 2011 11:36 AM

    @ Spencer, couldn’t agree more. I’ve never thought of BR as a true leader.

    How much you wanna bet that if any teammate criticized Harrison publicly he’d whine like a little girl? He strikes me as a “dish it, can’t take it” type.
    Sad thing is I bet Steelers players are going to be asked to comment on Harrison’s comments and if they are good teammates they will not be throwing him under the bus for throwing them under the bus.

    Take away his stage, Tomlin. Worst he can do is whine (more) like Seymour used to when BB did it to him.

  76. andrewfbrowne says: Jul 13, 2011 11:38 AM

    Wow, last summer Big Ben gets accused of raping a college girl in a dive bathroom, and I thought that would be it from the Steelers for a while, but add in Mendenhall, Hines Ward and now this from Harrison and they are the far and away the most controversial franchise in the NFL. The Bengals are off the hook.

    Wow, it is a good time to be a Browns and Ravens fan. Because this train is off the rails.

  77. joesphkerr says: Jul 13, 2011 11:39 AM

    Going to be a long line at the Rooneys door when the lockout is over. I ‘m sure they are just soooo proud of Mendenhall, Ward and now Harrison.

  78. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:40 AM

    I take back everything I said about Harrison in the previous 2 (or 3?) posts about his comments.

    Harrison throwing Ben under the bus like this is effing awesome. Keep trashing your teammates Jimmy, I love watching the Steelers implode like this. And the fact that it’s coming off a Superbowl loss makes it so much sweeter.

  79. piratefreedom says: Jul 13, 2011 11:41 AM

    Peyton has thrown picks that cost his team the superbowl and he also gets paid like Peyton Manning.
    Get over it James.

  80. fground says: Jul 13, 2011 11:41 AM

    Of course these kind of comments are made all the time by most people about the other people they work with or in groups of friends. They are just usually said to others in the group or workplace behind the back of the target of the comment.

    We take such sniping in stride every day. But when someone comes out and says such things publicly it makes us all cringe.

  81. 2mannings1cup says: Jul 13, 2011 11:42 AM

    Browns win the division.

  82. Sandra Lee's Cans says: Jul 13, 2011 11:42 AM

    Hey Pittsburgh, when you run out of patience with this guy you can send him 90 minutes west to Cleveland. When it comes to guys like Harrison, it’s better to have him inside your tent pissing out than outside your tent pissing in.

  83. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:48 AM

    rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:14 AM

    Please chill with the “Steelers are imploding” talk. I have to listen to that every year. Last year was the same way when Ben got suspended and Santonio traded. I know it’s wishful thinking on your part but not likely. That being said Harrison needs to shut up.

    ———————————————-

    When one of your best players is publicly calling out your QB (and other teammates) that is a sign of a self implosion.

    It’s completely different than Ben last year and Santonio getting traded. When players start throwing each other the bus like Harrison is doing, it creates mistrust and builds animosity between players, which can then lead to players taking sides and creating even more tension on the team.

  84. sacram3ntal says: Jul 13, 2011 11:48 AM

    And the full interview isnt even out yet; come Friday this whole thing gets even more ridiculous, chances are.

    and if I may:
    From Kevin Siefert:
    “Harrison took a shot at Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for throwing two interceptions in Super Bowl XLV against the Packers. Harrison’s line for that game: 1 tackle.

    It was a sack that came on a stunt designed to get him away from Packers left tackle Chad Clifton, who pretty much owned him for the entire game. Packers center Scott Wells knocked Harrison down. He got up, and quarterback Aaron Rodgers stepped right into him. Perhaps if Harrison had done more to help the Steelers win, he would have been in better position to evaluate the performance of his teammates.”

  85. thephantomstranger says: Jul 13, 2011 11:49 AM

    Between Harrison, Ward, Mendenhall, and Roethlisberger, I’m almost glad the Packers beat them in the Super Bowl. Now if Mike Tomlin murders my mother, that would probably be enough to put me over the top.

  86. jeffperk says: Jul 13, 2011 11:53 AM

    Steeler on Steeler crime, LOVE IT!! That is better then Steeler on General Population crime! Get me some popcorn!!

  87. steeltiger34 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:54 AM

    As a life long Steeler fan, this is truly disappointing. You do NOT throw a teammate under the bus. Neither palyed there best game in the SB. Rodgers shreaded that secondary and where was the pressure?? Ben made some mistakes, but time to move forward. Trashing a teammate is disrutive at best. I like harrison’s play, but keep your moth closed!

    Why is this team seemingly unraveling under Tomlin? One could blame the explosion of social outlets but sexual misconduct accusions 2x, a potential DUI, defending bin laden, holmes drug use, Reed and his trouble with the law/fans and now harrison trashing Ben’s ability Did I forget any issues? Very troubling!

  88. iflounder says: Jul 13, 2011 11:54 AM

    His high school football ability was great, but his lack of maturity at times was a struggle. Harrison did not pay attention to his grades or college entrance tests, and by his senior year he had become disruptive to his football team. Early in his senior year, Coventry staff had to suspend him for two games for challenging an assistant coach to a fight. After he returned from his suspension, in his next game, he began the game by carrying 3 times for nearly 100 yards and 2 touchdowns. After his second TD, he ran down the opposing team’s sideline, and was ejected and later suspended for one game for making obscene gestures to the fans. Harrison was in court soon thereafter, after he shot a BB gun in the school locker room towards a defensive coach. He pled guilty to a minor charge and was able to return to school to finish his senior year. Due to his off-the-field issues, powerhouse football programs like Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Nebraska lost interest in him.

  89. sev3n5 says: Jul 13, 2011 11:55 AM

    Harrison acts like a hard ass but when have you ever seen him take on a guard or tackle, someone his own size? The only players he knocks out are small receivers that aren’t even looking his way. What a joke.

  90. radrhatr says: Jul 13, 2011 11:57 AM

    My kids love James Harrison. It shows them that education and humility aren’t important to succeed.

  91. agentcharlescarmichael says: Jul 13, 2011 12:01 PM

    That’s great, i don’t like the guy but he speaks the truth when he talks, Society really hates people for that. The steelers are imploding rather quickly. Feel bad for steeler fans for all this crap happening to their team this offseason, but I don’t feel bad for the players screwing everything up over and over. Stay classy, please? Cherry on top?…little rape in a bathroom on top? little DUI and acting as if your not responsible or even drunk at all on top?

  92. walkinginthewasteland says: Jul 13, 2011 12:05 PM

    group of comments.

    1) James will not come up with excuses for these remarks, he said them, he meant them, and he doesn’t run away from what he says. You may not like him, but JH doesn’t lack integrity.

    2) Effect on team chemistry? None. James is one of the leaders of the defense and is known as insanely intense. He has the respect of everyone in that lockerroom for how he practices and plays the game. Should he not have gone public, of course. But right now noone is/has been criticizing Ben over the SB loss more than Ben.

    3) Actions taken by the Rooneys? None. Maybe a conversation after the lockout ends. Its during the lockout, and it is understood this is just “James being James”. Do they wish he hadn’t said what he did about Turdwell? Of course. Do they understand why he said what did, sympathize and privately agree to most of it? Yes. The Rooneys are much more incensed over Hines and his DUI, then James and his verbal indiscretion.

  93. therevdewitt says: Jul 13, 2011 12:06 PM

    Hahahah! Way to keep it classy, Harrison. Gotta love seeing Steelers throw other Steelers under the bus. For once, I’m getting some serious enjoyment out of him.

  94. jakek2 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:08 PM

    Will Steelers fans now mercilessly boo Harrison like Giants’ fans have booed Tiki?

  95. feldman9000 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:09 PM

    Harrison really is a prime example of the Pittsburgh fanbase. An arrogant a** clown who runs his mouth and can’t back it up. I remember when Dan Morgan had 22 tackles in a Super Bowl loss. What have you done lately?

  96. d3murf says: Jul 13, 2011 12:13 PM

    Oh Boy. The “White Football Fans” are out in Mass I see. Let’s see. How many of you Morons are going to say James Harrison is uneducated b/c he spoke his mind?? Uh looks like about 97% of you have. He spoke his mind–now He’s no longer a college graduate? I thought the American Dream was to go get a higher Education and subsequently make MILLIONS? James Harrison followed through–Now he can buy and sell all of you Idiots combined! Get off his jock and go get some women!

    Oh and I guarantee you none of you would say those comments to James Harrison’s face. Ya’ll sound mighty tough behind that Keyboard.

    Give me a thumbs down if you’re White, Cowardly, and over compensating to make yourself feel adequate against Pro Athletes.

  97. arnoldziffel says: Jul 13, 2011 12:16 PM

    His high school football ability was great, but his lack of maturity at times was a struggle. Harrison did not pay attention to his grades or college entrance tests, and by his senior year he had become disruptive to his football team. Early in his senior year, Coventry staff had to suspend him for two games for challenging an assistant coach to a fight. After he returned from his suspension, in his next game, he began the game by carrying 3 times for nearly 100 yards and 2 touchdowns. After his second TD, he ran down the opposing team’s sideline, and was ejected and later suspended for one game for making obscene gestures to the fans. Harrison was in court soon thereafter, after he shot a BB gun in the school locker room towards a defensive coach. He pled guilty to a minor charge and was able to return to school to finish his senior year. Due to his off-the-field issues, powerhouse football programs like Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Nebraska lost interest in him.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Very interesting …

    Sounds like this guy has a jail cell just waiting for him.

  98. schmitty2 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:20 PM

    I’m waiting for Mendenhall to tweet that there’s a conspiracy against Harrison

  99. wildcat1935 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:21 PM

    What doesn’t kill the Steelers will make them stronger.

    The truth will set them free.

  100. rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:23 PM

    Enders –

    Every year the reason changes but fans still grasp for straws at why the Steelers will fail. Hines has criticized Ben in the past as well. It didn’t change anything. The management and player decisions are usually so good that they overcome anything. Less Steelers fans will like James Harrison. That’s about all this changes. They had a decision to make between him and Woodley over the next few years anyways. That just became a little easier.

  101. jpak12 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:23 PM

    What makes this comment even more stupid is the last time Manning was in the superbowl he threw an INT and the pick WAS IN HIS END, and it was a pick six to cost them the game.

  102. joesphkerr says: Jul 13, 2011 12:23 PM

    Rewind, isn’t this the same guy that did not want to go to the White House and meet the President after they won the Super Bowl a few years ago? Nice to see that he does not need to put on make up to become a clown.

  103. vmannj says: Jul 13, 2011 12:24 PM

    Wait a minute! According to the players’ arguement in the labor dispute, they want to be considered “business partners” with the owners, not employees. Well, guess what? Business partners don’t often discuss urinating on each other. Billionaires typcially use a little more class, even in areas of disagreement. I can’t wait to hear his victimized/race card/misquoted explanation when the fines and suspensions are handed down for this one!

  104. 58lambert58 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:26 PM

    From the majority of the comments, it’s apparent that very few of you ever played football and even if you did, playing Madden NFL 24/7 in your parents’ basement obviously doesn’t translate into real football IQ. Harrison is dead on about Ben’s performance in the last Super Bowl. He was off the entire game. Try watching it again from a coach’s perspective, not of a fan that memorizes statistics and cheers for a team because they like its logo. What Ben did against Seattle is irrelevant to the comments. Furthermore, Ben is NOT on the same level of Manning or Brady. Manning is a great QB that can’t win the big game. Ben is a very good QB that wins most of the time. Brady is a great QB that wins even more. Harrison only repeated what was already said in the locker room. Ben would be the first to admit it and I hardly think his feelings will be hurt by Harrison’s words. The locker room is not a kindergarten class in need of the squishy, political correctness that you espouse. As for Harrison’s performance, he was held the entire game (in fact, season), just the way the NFL wants it; don’t hurt the cash cow QBs! For those of you that are hoping this is a sign of the Steeler’s demise, nice try! Wishful thinking like that gets you planted on your back like Ed Reed being blocked by Hines Ward. All of you said the same thing last year, yet the Steeler Nation was only one TD away from another Super Bowl win. As for the comment that it is a good time to be a Browns fan, that is the funniest thing I have read in some time. Your owner cares more about his soccer team than your mistake on the lake franchise. See you on 12/8 ladies!

  105. lov3likerockets says: Jul 13, 2011 12:27 PM

    This is why we can’t have nice things

  106. gdeli says: Jul 13, 2011 12:30 PM

    big ben will not forget this crap. I wouldn’t. I love this drama on such a so called great franchise. Super bowl loss, harrison losing it…This guy is a moron! keep the great moments coming fool.

  107. cincyalldaway says: Jul 13, 2011 12:31 PM

    Real nice picture there James! I’m sure the Rooney’s will be so proud. You actually showed your true colors in that pic. Just another low rent, Reagan chesse eating piece of ghetto trash! As much as I despise BB I have a lot of respect for him as a player. As a human being he severely misses the mark, much like you James. And to throw himunder the bus like that! Especially after your piss poor performance in that game. The D sure as hell wasn’t going to bail anybody out in that game. In short, you suck James, so STFU already! Geez….

  108. feldman9000 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:32 PM

    @58Lambert58

    So then you agree? The Steelers just suck when it comes to real opponents correct? We can’t all play the Browns twice a year.

  109. zoxitic says: Jul 13, 2011 12:32 PM

    If your Roethlisberger and you don’t respond to this, it’s gonna show you are very soft.

  110. gdeli says: Jul 13, 2011 12:32 PM

    ps…violent, sadist, fool. What a terrible picture above. ick that was a baaad weekend for football fans!

  111. daburgher says: Jul 13, 2011 12:33 PM

    I’m a huge steelers fan and I’m ready to see this dude go.. He’s a beast on the field but he is just as replaceable as Porter was. As long as Keith Butler is around Pittsburgh will always have great linebackers

  112. johnnycamparm says: Jul 13, 2011 12:38 PM

    2 words James… Tiki. Barber. Google it.

  113. raiderinpa says: Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM

    I love this dissention in Pittsburgh!! The Steelers are racing to the top of the dysfunctional team list! At least James realizes that Manning is a better quarterback than Worthless-burger!! Sure, Ben-dover has more rings, but give Manning the D that Pittsburgh has had for the last decade or so, and that wouldn’t be the case…

  114. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM

    d3murf says:

    Oh Boy. The “White Football Fans” are out in Mass I see. He spoke his mind–now He’s no longer a college graduate? I thought the American Dream was to go get a higher Education and subsequently make MILLIONS? James Harrison followed through–Now he can buy and sell all of you Idiots combined! Get off his jock and go get some women!

    Oh and I guarantee you none of you would say those comments to James Harrison’s face. Ya’ll sound mighty tough behind that Keyboard.

    Give me a thumbs down if you’re White, Cowardly, and over compensating to make yourself feel adequate against Pro Athletes.

    ————————————————

    How old are you? :roll:

    I don’t care if Harrison is black, white, or dipped in 24k gold, his comments were classless and detrimental to the team. Please don’t judge me by your racism. Speaking his mind doesn’t suddenly make him uneducated. But certainly the measure of maturity is knowing when not to speak.

    The American Dream is about having the freedom to pursue any path you choose rather than being forced into a cubbyhole based on your race, ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, or socioeconomic status. Not all of us want to be filthy rich or are impressed like you with those who are. And I certainly don’t want to go get myself some women :roll:

    I firmly believe suspensions should be used more for league-related behavior than activities better handled by the criminal justice system. So despite being a diehard Steelers fan with a long history of defending Harrison, I’ve had enough and want the Steelers to suspend him at least one game for conduct detrimental to the team, primarily for those comments about Goodell. I can’t stand Roger, but Harrison represents the Steelers and the league and has a responsibility to do so respectfully.

    You had better believe I’d say that to his face. And I already feel more than adequate compared to pro athletes.

    Lunch is almost over. Time for you to stop your racist rantings and get back to class.

  115. dspyank2k11 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:41 PM

    What a horrible teammate.

  116. turk2875 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:45 PM

    Everyday James Harrison wakes up he should thank Big Ben by kneeling in his presence and kissing his feet for his Super Bowl ring. Last I checked they got torched by the Packers and torched by the Cardinals in the second half. Good thing Ben made one of the best throws in Super Bowl history to win that game… right James??

  117. mcthompso says: Jul 13, 2011 12:47 PM

    This guy reminds me of Joey Porter. He has some success in a Steelers uniform. He gets a loud mouth, acts like he, as a player, is the key to the Steelers success. He will demand more money, they drop him and find younger, cheaper talent who will have the same production. Harrison will go to a new, mediocre team and show he was a one trick pony who was only successful because of Dick Lebeau.

    The guy is a pretty good player. I don’t think he would be talked about so much if he did not blatanly break safety rules and then try to blame it on the league.

  118. lucky5934 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:47 PM

    Can we please find this guy an outlet for his internal aggression? Know wonder he is trying to cripple people with this much pent up anger. Sounds a lot like he is trying to get traded.

  119. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:54 PM

    rmm1984 says: Jul 13, 2011 12:23 PM

    Enders –

    Every year the reason changes but fans still grasp for straws at why the Steelers will fail. Hines has criticized Ben in the past as well. It didn’t change anything. The management and player decisions are usually so good that they overcome anything. Less Steelers fans will like James Harrison. That’s about all this changes. They had a decision to make between him and Woodley over the next few years anyways. That just became a little easier.

    ————————————-

    Are you talking about when Hines Ward said Ben should have played in the game against Baltimore a couple years ago when he had a concussion? That’s not exactly the same thing as what Harrison is doing. Ben made the right choice by not playing, he knows that. So I doubt Ben would even be offended by what he said.

    What Harrison said is completely different though. He called out Ben personally for his performance in the Superbowl. Ben (I’m assuming) tried as hard as he could and gave it 110% the entire game. It’s much easier to get offended when you try as hard as you can to do something but fail, and then have a teammate (someone who is suppose to be on your side) call you out publicly like this. Harrison was basically saying “You aren’t as good as you think you are, so stop trying to be.”

  120. hobartbaker says: Jul 13, 2011 1:15 PM

    All the iron that Musclehead is pushing up and down sure paying off. Look at the guns on the man.

  121. hobartbaker says: Jul 13, 2011 1:18 PM

    Harrison ragging Cushing about steroid use is a bit like…….well……..like the Steeler linebacker calling the Texan linebacker black.

  122. goawayeverybody says: Jul 13, 2011 1:23 PM

    Although I hate Pig Pen I’d rather have him on my team than Peyton Manning.

  123. indywilson40 says: Jul 13, 2011 1:27 PM

    If Manning played for Pittsburgh, he’d have at least 3 rings. Fact.

  124. pskotte says: Jul 13, 2011 1:31 PM

    Typical Steelers class act.

  125. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 1:31 PM

    @mcthompso …

    Porter had a big mouth … toward opposing teams. He was loved as a teammates and consistently did unselfish things for the guys on his own squad. That’s why he was always elected a team captain. He never threw his teammates under the bus.

  126. realfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 1:32 PM

    southbeachtalent says: Jul 13, 2011 10:38 AM

    Nice, that should really go over well in the locker room….
    ——

    Considering how many teammates have called Roethlisberger out on and off the record over the years (Ward, Porter, Harrison, Pro Football Weekly article with numerous off the record critical teammates right before the GA thing broke, etc), I doubt it makes too big of a differnce.

    Furthermore, Harrison seems to be a loose cannon as it is, and I doubt he and Roethlisberger even interact.

    However, Harrison’s wrong, Manning’s great, but so’s Ben. To average 8 yards an attempt in your career, perform like he has in big games, and beat Manning’s better team on the way to his first Super Bowl shouldn’t be overlooked.

    He’s actually underrated in this era because he bucks all the cliches that the media force feeds us of what it takes to be great (lousy work ethic, lousy teammate, horrible personal issues, general jerk), akin to this generation’s Ken Stabler, but even better.

  127. crumpledstiltskin says: Jul 13, 2011 1:41 PM

    Please do Hard Knocks in Pittsburgh. Please.

  128. minnesconsin says: Jul 13, 2011 1:49 PM

    interesting that he has only positive things to say about Saint Troy Polamalu. If you want to call somebody out for a lousy performance in XLV, you might start with Troy.

    Strangely enough, I don’t actually disagree with very much of what Harrison is saying, apart from his idiotic belief that his head-hunting constitutes legal NFL tackling.

    As far as the criticism of his teammates — If he would’ve started by owning his own poor play in the Super Bowl, that would’ve probably gone a long way to making this a non-story. You have to be accountable for your own play before you even start to think about any specific teammate’s.

  129. supashug says: Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM

    whatdgou talkin bout willis

  130. golonger says: Jul 13, 2011 2:04 PM

    Hmmm….I’m begininng to see why the Ravens may have cut this clown!!

  131. mswravens says: Jul 13, 2011 2:10 PM

    @Deb – once again, I applaud your objectivity…but even I don’t want him suspended for the Ravens game…and not because I don’t want to hear excuses when we beat you, LOL! I honestly don’t know how you punish ignorance. I think you (i.e., Steelers organization) just have to deal with it…

    I must say, this whole episode is really hard to comprehend. The Steelers are noted to have one of the most cohesive teams around. Who knew such feelings even existed in their locker room, let alone that they would be aired in public. He has crossed so many lines, I’m just at a loss about it. I do know this – Bmore’s defense carries their offense a whole lot more than the Steelers D carries their O…we always wonder here when the D would turn on the O, and it’s never really happened. To see it coming from Pburgh is strange.

    I’ll say this, if we get more of this from the Steelers, it’s almost enough for me to wish for the lockout to continue a little longer!!! (JK of course…)

  132. tombradysponytail says: Jul 13, 2011 2:10 PM

    Deb says:
    Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM

    The American Dream is about having the freedom to pursue any path you choose rather than being forced into a cubbyhole based on your race, ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, or socioeconomic status.

    ______

    Deb should know. One of her many experiences is that she has worked with founding fathers who have struggled with delineating a phsilosophy on which a new nation should be based.

  133. gimmeabruschi says: Jul 13, 2011 2:11 PM

    You have to be pretty disgusting to make a non Steeler fan want to defend BR. Harrison gets that job done.

  134. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 2:13 PM

    Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM

    How old are you? :roll:

    I don’t care if Harrison is black, white, or dipped in 24k gold, his comments were classless and detrimental to the team. Please don’t judge me by your racism. Speaking his mind doesn’t suddenly make him uneducated. But certainly the measure of maturity is knowing when not to speak.

    ——————————————-

    You seem to think that everything is about you. If someone refers to Steeler fans in general, you take it as they are directly talking about you. d3murf says “White Football Fans” and you take that as him judging you personally.

    It’s called generalizing. Just because you are white or a Steeler fan, that doesn’t mean anyone is talking to you directly when they refer to a Steeler fan or a “White Football Fan”

    (starts whistling “You’re so vain”)

  135. phinfan says: Jul 13, 2011 2:18 PM

    And the Steelers franchise sinks

    lower… and

    lower

  136. chicagoraven says: Jul 13, 2011 2:20 PM

    I think that someone should put Channing Crowder and James Harrison infront of a group of reporters til the lock out ends.. it would be hours of entertainment and WTF moments..

  137. yankees2009 says: Jul 13, 2011 2:21 PM

    If Roethlisberger played for just about any other team, he’s a backup QB at best. The Steelers make him look good.

    It amazes me how flat-out stupid some football fans are. Football is a team sport, and so is winning a Super Bowl. Since when has a team won a Super Bowl ONLY because of a quarterback? NEVER.

    You think Montana would have 4 Super Bowl wins had he played for any team other than the 49ers at the time? Highly unlikely. Would Trent Dilfer have a ring had he not ridden the Raven’s defense to a Super Bowl title? No. It’s a terrible argument when comparing QB’s.

    Manning is better than Roethlisberger. I don’t give a **** about rings, watch the two play, compare and contrast using a non-biased perspective, and tell me who the better QB is.

  138. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 2:27 PM

    realfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 1:32 PM

    However, Harrison’s wrong, Manning’s great, but so’s Ben. To average 8 yards an attempt in your career, perform like he has in big games, and beat Manning’s better team on the way to his first Super Bowl shouldn’t be overlooked.

    He’s actually underrated in this era because he bucks all the cliches that the media force feeds us of what it takes to be great (lousy work ethic, lousy teammate, horrible personal issues, general jerk), akin to this generation’s Ken Stabler, but even better.

    ————————————————

    Harrison wasn’t saying Ben was less than great, he was just saying that Ben is not Peyton, and Peyton is more than just great. And what big games are you talking about Ben performing so great in? In the biggest game (aka the Superbowl) he has thrown 5 interceptions and only 3 TDs combined in his three superbowls. And in his first Superbowl he had a QB rating of only 22.6, which is straight awful. And last year he had a 77.4 qb rating, which is far from a good performance.

    And the only part of the 05 Colts that was better than the 05 Steelers was the Passing game. The Steelers had a better running game and a much better defense. And if that game shouldn’t be overlooked, then neither should his 22.6 QB rating in the very next game (the Superbowl).

    And Ben is not under rated, most people have him ranked in the top 5 QBs, which is right where he belongs. You could argue top 3, but you could argue top 3 for several QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, and Ben. With Brady and Manning being the clear 1 and 2)

  139. kindbass says: Jul 13, 2011 2:30 PM

    I would love to see someone walk up to James Harrison in that picture and tell him that you don’t like what he said.

  140. trickbunny says: Jul 13, 2011 2:31 PM

    Gotta love the poor saps that are writing things like “Ben has more SB rings than Manning” (as if that indicated that he’s a better QB.)

    We all know that it was Pittsburgh’s running game and defenses that got them to the last couple SBs where Ben played like CRAP.

    Yes, Ben has more rings than Manning… but God knows that Manning earned his while Ben got his riding the coattails of his more successful-in-thier-positions teammates.

    With the kind of dumb logic Steeler fans try to get away with, they must also think that Trent Dilfer is a better, more accomplished QB than Dan Marino because, after all, Trent has a ring and Dan doesn’t. RIGHT?

  141. kindbass says: Jul 13, 2011 2:31 PM

    Remember when Joey Porter was supposed to be “scary”? I always thought he kinda looked like an overgrown fetus. Now this guy (Gruden voice), this guy is a scary dude.

  142. footballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 2:47 PM

    And the only part of the 05 Colts that was better than the 05 Steelers was the Passing game. The Steelers had a better running game and a much better defense. And if that game shouldn’t be overlooked, then neither should his 22.6 QB rating in the very next game (the Superbowl).

    *********

    Actually Pitt beat Denver in the game before the Superbowl. Ben actually played pretty good in that game from what i remember.

  143. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 2:53 PM

    yankees2009 says: Jul 13, 2011 2:21 PM

    If Roethlisberger played for just about any other team, he’s a backup QB at best. The Steelers make him look good.

    It amazes me how flat-out stupid some football fans are. Football is a team sport, and so is winning a Super Bowl. Since when has a team won a Super Bowl ONLY because of a quarterback? NEVER.

    You think Montana would have 4 Super Bowl wins had he played for any team other than the 49ers at the time? Highly unlikely. Would Trent Dilfer have a ring had he not ridden the Raven’s defense to a Super Bowl title? No. It’s a terrible argument when comparing QB’s.

    Manning is better than Roethlisberger. I don’t give a **** about rings, watch the two play, compare and contrast using a non-biased perspective, and tell me who the better QB is.

    ————————————————-

    I agree with your main point, that Peyton is better than Manning. And using Superbowl rings to compare QBs is a bad argument. Football is the ultimate team sport, you can’t attribute any one Superbowl to any specific player. Every aspect of your TEAM has to play good to make it to the superbowl and especially to win a superbowl. But some of the other stuff you said was just nonsense lol.

    Ben would be the clear starter on every team except for maybe 5 (Patriots, Colts, Chargers, Packers, and Saints). He has a good arm, and an amazing ability to avoid being sacked/tackled and turn broken plays into gains.

    You could put Montana on a few other teams and he still would have won multiple SBs, maybe not 4 (or maybe even more than 4). But he still would have more than one Superbowl ring depending on what other team he played for at the time. But Ben shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as Montana as far as QB greatness goes.

  144. d3murf says: Jul 13, 2011 2:59 PM

    @Deb says: How old are you? :roll:

    I don’t care if Harrison is black, white, or dipped in 24k gold, his comments were classless and detrimental to the team. Please don’t judge me by your racism. Speaking his mind doesn’t suddenly make him uneducated. But certainly the measure of maturity is knowing when not to speak.
    ——————————————————
    Umm a lil Self Absorbed huh Deb? Who are you to tell James Harrison when to speak? When was the last time you provided his family with proper nurturing? All of you fans should just stick to what goes on between those Hash Marks–and chill with telling another human being what to do with life. lol @ You trying to pretend you’d say some of these Corn Ball comments to James Harrisons face. You’d be screaming for an order of protection quickly! Keyboard Warriors come out so hard on these message boards.

    I’m not racist in the least bit–I just know that 99% of these people saying these lame comments are ‘White Football Fans”. Pretending to be hard oh my lord check your temperatures! Notice how the top 10 most commented posts are all about Negativity? Why’s that? Don’t say that most of the stories posted are about Negativity either. It’s easily like 20-1. Bottom line is (IMO) ‘White Football Fans” need to feel like their better somehow than these Black Pro Athletes.
    That’s why we always see comments about Grammar Usage and Education. WTF does that have to do with Football? Get a Life!

    Please Give me a “Thumbs Down” If you’re White, Lame, Jealous, Talentless (@ Sports) and Cowardly..

  145. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 3:05 PM

    tombradysponytail says:
    Jul 13, 2011 2:10 PM
    Deb says:
    Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM

    The American Dream is about having the freedom to pursue any path you choose rather than being forced into a cubbyhole based on your race, ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, or socioeconomic status.

    ______

    Deb should know. One of her many experiences is that she has worked with founding fathers who have struggled with delineating a phsilosophy on which a new nation should be based.

    ********************
    Okay, that made me laugh out loud and I’m still cracking up. Point to you, ponytail :lol:

    (FYI … I wasn’t talking about our country … there are others :) )

  146. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 3:13 PM

    @enders9 …

    Duh, that was the point, genius. Generalizations are offensive. They’re the basis of stereotypes and bigotry. It’s offensive when he decides all the people disagreeing with Harrison must be white, males, and when he decides they must be bigoted and jealous of athletes, and that they are cowards. It’s just as offensive as declaring that all football players are stupid or all African-Americans like watermelon. You don’t group people together based on their skin color, religion, gender, or any other arbitrary factor and start assigning them offensive characteristics.

    I take people individually based on their individual comments. So when I say you are being a jerk and demonstrating your ignorance, you can be sure it is all about you.

  147. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 3:16 PM

    @d3murf …

    I didn’t tell James when to speak. He’s free to say what he wants when he wants. But he represents the team just as I represent my business. I’m free to say what I want when I want, but actions have consequences and it may cost me business. James’s disrespectful attitude and unsportsmanlike behavior needs to cost him some playing time.

    Your bigotry and immaturity speak for themselves.

  148. kodiak77 says: Jul 13, 2011 3:22 PM

    walkinginthewasteland,brother you said it all

  149. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 3:22 PM

    @mswravens …

    Hey … just socked you on another thread for messing with Mr. Rooney :)

    I think James should have been reined in last season when he kept being mouthy longer than necessary to make the point. This is what happens when you let a player get too big for his britches. Unfortunately, the lockout means he hasn’t had Tomlin or anyone in the Steelers front office to temper his worst impulses … and he’s a pretty impulsive guy. I want the team to sit him the same way Belichick sat Welker. Do you think any other Pats will be talking out of turn this year? James needs to remember he’s part of a team, not the James Harrison Show. And it won’t hurt to remind everyone else, either.

  150. get2thepointsir says: Jul 13, 2011 3:23 PM

    Have any of you people even played the game before?
    lol..this is to funny! I mean when I read James comments I had to just laugh. Just like I had to laugh at a lot of comments here.

    ” The Steelers are going to implode”….” oh how are they going to manage?”… “omg.. there loosing it”!! ha.ha…you people crack me up.

    That’s a real man right there!! Yeah the teammate public thing don’t care for , but it is what it is.

    FYI, Ben did have a bad game..heck he’d tell you that.
    As far as Rashaad ( I hold my breath every time he carries the ball)Mendenhall, I’m just getting to the point where I’m almost speechless with this guy.

    Look..the whole team didn’t play up to par, but turnovers is the reason they lost. The final score reflects that. (6 points).

    Also all you “he can’t back it up” talk behind your keyboard tough guys. I’m willing to bet a grand none of you would walk up to James ( I’m a real man) Harrison and just tell him to STFU! I don’t pay medical bills.

  151. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 3:24 PM

    footballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 2:47 PM

    And the only part of the 05 Colts that was better than the 05 Steelers was the Passing game. The Steelers had a better running game and a much better defense. And if that game shouldn’t be overlooked, then neither should his 22.6 QB rating in the very next game (the Superbowl).

    *********

    Actually Pitt beat Denver in the game before the Superbowl. Ben actually played pretty good in that game from what i remember.

    ================================

    Whoops, you’re right. For some reason I was thinking the Colts/Steelers game was the CCG and the Broncos/Steelers was the Divisional round game. Thanks for correcting me.

    My point still stands though. Ben played awful in the superbowl, which is THE biggest game of the season.

  152. thephantomstranger says: Jul 13, 2011 3:24 PM

    That makes the score Deb 403, Ponytail 1.

  153. thephantomstranger says: Jul 13, 2011 3:28 PM

    get2thepointsir says:
    Jul 13, 2011 3:23 PM

    Also all you “he can’t back it up” talk behind your keyboard tough guys. I’m willing to bet a grand none of you would walk up to James ( I’m a real man) Harrison and just tell him to STFU! I don’t pay medical bills.
    _______________

    Real tough, betting a grand with anonymous people who can’t find you to collect.

  154. rabidbillsfan says: Jul 13, 2011 3:34 PM

    @d3murf

    Actually there not called “white football fans” there called idiots, and you sir, belong in that discussion. I don’t want what James Harrison has, I’d rather have what Tom Brady has. And a bit of hypocrisy in your post, “…All of you fans should just stick to what goes on between those Hash Marks–and chill with telling another human being what to do with life…” but aren’t you telling another human being what to do with life? I actually do feel like I am better than alot of athletes not just African American athletes. I wouldn’t want to be in Erik Ainges shoes, nor Matt Jones. And actually, to tell you the truth, I would say that to James Harison, and any other Pro-Athlete who opens his mouth only to let sewage come out. These guys are role models, act like one. I wish I could thumbs down your post an infinite amout of times, but why would that matter? We are ALL only “keyboard Warriors”…

  155. rabidbillsfan says: Jul 13, 2011 3:38 PM

    @phantomstranger

    Apparently he has the cash too, because it seems he’s “played the game”…

  156. trollaikman8 says: Jul 13, 2011 3:39 PM

    This guy is pure gold. I want to live in a world where J.Harrison is mic’d up at all times.

  157. get2thepointsir says: Jul 13, 2011 3:52 PM

    Real tough, betting a grand with anonymous people who can’t find you to collect.

    lol…..Well would you??????

    @ thephantomstranger.. See there you go. Made my point for me. Calling someone names and saying that he can’t back up his words……well

    it’s just plain silly..ha.ha

  158. trollaikman8 says: Jul 13, 2011 4:04 PM

    Let’s not forget that if P.Manning played in Pittsburgh, he would have 7 SB rings by now.

    Roethlisberger is Dilfer 2.0…and he rapes people.

  159. childressrulz says: Jul 13, 2011 4:12 PM

    @d3murf-Let me guess your “hard.” You probably grew up on the streets and are as tough as they come. The reason people talk about grammar and language is they are trying to keep this country from falling further into the craper you and your kind have dragged us into. Nobody is sounding tough behind a keyboard. Telling Harrison to STFU is just good advice for this overrated, mentally challenged individual. If I ever see Harrison I will make fun of his SB performance. I could care less about Raplessberger and Mendenhall or taking a punch from a wealthy (asking to be sued) individual although I doubt he is dumb enough to take a swing (even though he is hard as you say). Deb is right you sound racist as hell!

  160. stairwayto7 says: Jul 13, 2011 4:17 PM

    trollaikman8 says:Jul 13, 2011 4:04 PM

    Let’s not forget that if P.Manning played in Pittsburgh, he would have 7 SB rings by now.
    ———————————————————-
    Manning would have cos tthe Steelers 3 Super Bowls! He is a playoff choker!
    Ben 2 rings and a 9-3 post season record
    Manning 1 ring and a 10-9 post season record!

  161. d3murf says: Jul 13, 2011 4:51 PM

    @ Childressrulz So You have to grow up on the streets to be “Hard”? hmmmm I’m calling it as I see it. I have not said any ‘Slurs” to demean anyone.

    How is “Nobody” Sounding hard behind a Keyboard? Have you read these comments? Saying you’d make fun of his performance in the SB in his face is Laughable at best. Cut it out man. Like I said–you would be singing to the Police asap. Trying to get yourself KO’d for money is the worst way to make some money. Use that beautiful education and proper Grammar usage to buy some BALLS. Get off these Athletes balls while you’re at it. What are you some type of Male Groupie?

    People please “Thumbs Down” this post if you’re a White, Jock Sniffing, Male Groupie who would pee his pants if they had to back up their message board antics..

    lol @ that dude who said he would Thumbs Down my post infinite times…Under those pretenses I provided, I bet you would “Thumbs Down” my post. As for you other people calling me out—**Snoooorre**

  162. melonnhead says: Jul 13, 2011 4:58 PM

    Umm a lil Self Absorbed huh Deb? Who are you to tell James Harrison when to speak? When was the last time you provided his family with proper nurturing? All of you fans should just stick to what goes on between those Hash Marks–and chill with telling another human being what to do with life.

    —————————————————————-

    Hypocrite much?

  163. melonnhead says: Jul 13, 2011 5:01 PM

    I’m not racist in the least bit

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    Anybody that starts a diatribe like that is deeply racist.

  164. melonnhead says: Jul 13, 2011 5:13 PM

    d3murf, I have to ask… are you James Harrison’s woman? If you are, thumbs down this post.

  165. get2thepointsir says: Jul 13, 2011 5:13 PM

    rabidbillsfan says:
    Jul 13, 2011 3:38 PM
    @phantomstranger

    Apparently he has the cash too, because it seems he’s “played the game”…

    @rabidbillsfan.. Umm I guess you’re replying to my comment…… yes to the first, and hell yes to the second!!

    Now to your comment……

    rabidbillsfan says:
    Jul 13, 2011 3:34 PM
    @d3murf

    Actually there not called “white football fans” there called idiots, and you sir, belong in that discussion. I don’t want what James Harrison has, I’d rather have what Tom Brady has. And a bit of hypocrisy in your post, “…All of you fans should just stick to what goes on between those Hash Marks–and chill with telling another human being what to do with life…” but aren’t you telling another human being what to do with life? I actually do feel like I am better than alot of athletes not just African American athletes. I wouldn’t want to be in Erik Ainges shoes, nor Matt Jones. And actually, to tell you the truth, I would say that to James Harison, and any other Pro-Athlete who opens his mouth only to let sewage come out. These guys are role models, act like one. I wish I could thumbs down your post an infinite amout of times, but why would that matter? We are ALL only “keyboard Warriors”…

    “Actually there not called “white football fans” there called idiot”.

    That statement I can agree with you on. That’s to far out there. Just as all the silly name calling on a message board. “C’mon man” how tough does that really make you? It’s just funny to me.

    Now, (this is just my opinion) this whole society bs saying these guys are role models. No there not! There just individuals that just happen to be good at what they do. People make these guys and others with some type of elite standing bigger than they are. Then when they fall on the face or whatever it seems to be some huge let down. ” Hello these people are human also!!” There going to make mistakes. You can admire someone for what they have accomplish to get where they are and aim for the same thing. Just when you aim you aim higher and be better.
    Kids role model should be there parents and not some person that chances are they probably won’t even meet.
    Now would I want James Harrison to be a role model for my kid? Heck no!! I do want him to admire his work ethic and drive and not quit. I say to him all the time to get out and work hard for what you want, don’t expect anyone to give you anything, never let anyone tell you that you can’t do something and never ever quit. Sorry but the whole role model thing is crap.

  166. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 5:30 PM

    Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 3:13 PM

    @enders9 …

    Duh, that was the point, genius. Generalizations are offensive. They’re the basis of stereotypes and bigotry. It’s offensive when he decides all the people disagreeing with Harrison must be white, males, and when he decides they must be bigoted and jealous of athletes, and that they are cowards. It’s just as offensive as declaring that all football players are stupid or all African-Americans like watermelon. You don’t group people together based on their skin color, religion, gender, or any other arbitrary factor and start assigning them offensive characteristics.

    I take people individually based on their individual comments. So when I say you are being a jerk and demonstrating your ignorance, you can be sure it is all about you.

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    lol SOME generalizations are offensive, not all. It depends on the context. College students are generalized as college students, is that at all offensive? A generalization based on football is not offensive, saying that a certain teams fan base is XXXXXX isn’t offensive. It’s football, it’s competitive, which naturally means that the fan base’s are also going to trash talk each other. If you are offended by a Browns fan (for example) generalizing you precious Steeler fans, then you are taking it way too seriously. But even if you are offended, you shouldn’t turn it into something that is all about you like you have done several times. Because it’s not all about you, even if you are part of whatever was generalized.

    Yes d3murph brought race into it, but to be honest, what he said was so absurdly stupid that it wasn’t at all offensive. It was just laughable. And lol at anyone so thin skinned that they actually were offended. But I wasn’t referring to just that one instance, I’ve seen you respond to people generalizing Steeler fans like they were only talking about you specifically.

    Good for you for taking people individually. But when you are referring to a lot of people, or a large group of people, it’s easier/quicker/more convenient to just generalize them than it is to name of every individual you are referring to.

  167. holeinone09 says: Jul 13, 2011 5:39 PM

    Harrison is a complete and total idiot for making comments like this about his QB. I want to know if he said anything like this to his face in the lockerroom, where it is more appropriate for players to discuss each other’s play, right or wrong. In public is just wrong, for anybody on any team.

    The Steelers and the Rooneys normally don’t stand for this type of shananigans within the team environment, and I hope they don’t now. Suspend Harrison for one game, and fine him on top of it. This can’t happen again.

    Frankly, I could care less if they traded or cut him at this point. He is not bigger than the TEAM.

    DIEHARD Steeler fan

  168. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 5:48 PM

    melonnhead says:

    d3murf, I have to ask… are you James Harrison’s woman? If you are, thumbs down this post.

    ****************************************

    Your best post ever. Laugh-out-loud funny!

  169. enders9 says: Jul 13, 2011 5:50 PM

    stairwayto7 says: Jul 13, 2011 4:17 PM

    trollaikman8 says:Jul 13, 2011 4:04 PM

    Let’s not forget that if P.Manning played in Pittsburgh, he would have 7 SB rings by now.
    ———————————————————-
    Manning would have cos tthe Steelers 3 Super Bowls! He is a playoff choker!
    Ben 2 rings and a 9-3 post season record
    Manning 1 ring and a 10-9 post season record!

    —————————————————

    This is just idiotic thinking that only a Steeler fan could truly believe. If Manning was the QB of the Steelers, you would not have lost all three Superbowls. Manning wouldn’t have had 7 rings, like the other poster said, but he would at least have 3 by now.

    The Steelers won the Superbowl in 05 despite Ben having one of the worst performances ever by a QB in the Superbowl. A 22.6 QB rating in the biggest game of your life (at that point in his career) is the definition of a choke job. The fact that the Steelers were still able to win shows just how important Ben was to that Superbowl winning team.

    Ben has spent his entire career in a much better situation team-wise than Manning has ever had. Every year, the Steelers have a dominating top 5 defense (most years, if not all, they are arguably the best defense in the NFL). The Colts defense doesn’t even come close to how good the Steelers defense is. Steelers also have better coaching and a better running game than the Colts.

    If you take Ben off the Steelers, they are still a superbowl team. Proof of this is: Look at the 05 Superbowl, and remember the Steelers went 3-1 last year when Ben was suspended.

    If you take Manning off the Colts, the Colts become a 6-10 team at best. Just look at how bad the Colts are any time another QB is playing. It’s just ugly.

    Manning hasn’t been amazing in either of his Superbowl performances, but overall he has been a much better Superbowl QB than Ben has. You’ll never see Manning post a 22.6 in the Superbowl (and if he did, the Colts wouldn’t even come close to winning).

  170. Deb says: Jul 13, 2011 9:11 PM

    @enders9 …

    If you’ve seen me responding to people talking about Steelers fans as though they were talking only about me, it was because I defy stereotyping in many respects (liberal evangelical, Southern civil rights advocate, feminine football fanatic) and enjoy being the posterchild for not making assumptions. I also tend to call out searing stupidity and racism. But though I don’t go on rivals’ threads and pick fights, when they bring it to me, honey, I can fire up the good ol’ smacktalk with the best of them.

  171. pigeonpea says: Jul 13, 2011 9:32 PM

    d3murf says:
    I’m not racist in the least bit–I just know that 99% of these people saying these lame comments are ‘White Football Fans”.

    Need I point out the irony of this idiot statement, or can we just agree d3murf simply has the IQ of a golf shoe?

    LOL. What a tool.

  172. realfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 10:58 PM

    enders9,

    He (along with Santonio Holmes) kind of won the Super Bowl as time ticked off the clock a couple of years ago. And you’re seriously going to compare how he played vs. Seattle with the last 2 performances where he’s grown leaps as a QB. By that same take, Tom Brady was pretty inconsequential in New England’s first Super Bowl win and pretty mediocre in their last appearance. Still wouldn’t change my decision to start him over any other guy in the game today if I needed to win one game.

    Roethlisberger had a couple of turnovers in the Super Bowl, but he was one of the main reasons that they’d gained control of that game in the 2nd half.

    Let’s not forget that the momentum swung when Mendenhall fumbled because at that point the Steelers had taken over that game, and Ben was a big part of that. The Packers were on their heels.

    not to mention, the defense didn’t exactly hold up their end of the bargain since they were the ones who let Rodgers continuously throw to Jennings and Nelson at will.

    Manning is very good, but Roethlisberger is very much on equal footing with both he and Brady. Rodgers might be next in line in that club because he’s been very good his first 3 years as a starter with a Super Bowl ring and big games on his resume.

    For all the excuses people put up for Manning, his teams have averaged 14 ppg in his playoff starts over the years (well below regular season stats). He’s the guy who threw the interception with the Super Bowl on the line against a pretty suspect defense (New Orleans).

    Also, that ’05 team of the Colts was the first seed in the AFC, so what are you talking about the Steelers were better, they barely made the playoffs as they were the 6th seed.

    Sure they proved in the end to be but every indicator prior to the playoffs would point to otherwise as the Colts were at home, they were out of the elements, and their offense underachieved like it usually does around playoff time with Manning throwing a couple of picks for good measure..the defense certainly played well enough for them to win had the offense held up it’s end of the deal.

    Also, Edgerin James was on that team, so I guess that didn’t make Indy’s rushing attack comparable to an 80 year old Jerome Bettis and Willie Parker combination.

    People talk like he’s slugging through 14-10 games during the playoffs and being carried by his defense. Outside of Brady, there’s no QB I’d rather give the ball to with the game on the line all things being equal.

    Also, give me a break with the rating nonsense. He averages 8 yards an attempt for his career, do you realize how amazing that is. That’s the equivalent of a receiver averaging 16 yards a catch while catching 80+ balls a year.

    He doesn’t stack gawdy numbers (also doesn’t play in a dome half the time), but Roethlisberger is every bit on the same plane with those other two guys, he has the big game pedigree and rings to stand next to either of them, especially Manning.

    And I can’t even believe you mentioned Brees or Rivers, the biggest joke, in your response. Roethlisberger’s beaten him nearly every time they’ve ever played with what we’ve been told for half a decade was the best roster in football flanking him.

    I’m just tired of people slighting the guy just because he’s a jerk or he’s not what you’d think was an ideal role model qB or whatever. Look at that farce of the best player list, he wasn’t even in the top 15, that’s a joke.

    He’s just as good as those other guys, and I’m not a Steeler fan, just a real football fan.

  173. realfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 11:21 PM

    Here’s a pretty good breakdown of Peyton Manning’s shrinkage in his playoff career. Numbers don’t lie. Roethlisberger’s been the better post-season QB, period.
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_261_Brady_vs._Manning:_Complete_&_Unabridged,_Vol._II.html

  174. bcgreg says: Jul 13, 2011 11:32 PM

    Didn’t Harrison say at one point that he’d rather be hit in the head than the knee when all of the “head shot” issues came about last year? After reading the comments from the Men’s Journal article, I can only conclude that Mr Harrison suffered some head trauma.

  175. deconjonesbitchslap says: Jul 13, 2011 11:43 PM

    poor Big Ben. I feel so sorry for him now…

  176. enders9 says: Jul 14, 2011 12:10 AM

    realfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 10:58 PM

    enders9,

    [insert realfootballfan's (lol at that name) extremely long post that was almost entirely full of bs and not worth copy/pasting]

    ———————————————————

    You know what Tom Brady has never done in a Superbowl? Had a QB rating of less than 80. Ben has only exceeded 80 once, and that was in 08. There is a difference between Brady being inconsequential in his first Superbowl and Ben posting up one of the worst performances of all time in his first super bowl. Also, Brady has been to more Superbowls and has thrown only 1 interception compared to Bens 5. I’m not going to argue this further, because Ben can’t even sniff Brady’s jock strap. And anyone who thinks he can is a complete idiot.

    You say the momentum swung after Mendenhall fumbled, so when you also say that Ben was one of the main reasons they gained control in the second half I am going to assume you really meant just the third quarter. And to that I say lol. Ben barely did anything in the 3rd quarter. The only TD came on a drive where they ran it every time but one, and that one pass was for only 6 yards. The next drive was halted by an incomplete pass, a pass for negative yards, and a sack. Next drive was a three and out, 2 of which were passes. So what am I missing here that Ben did that was so amazing? Because all I see is him bringing on the punt team.

    Saying “the defense didn’t exactly hold up their end of the bargain” just proves my point. Ben can play one of the worst games ever by a QB in the superbowl, and the Steelers still win. But when the defense struggles some, the Steelers lose. So thanks for proving my point that Ben has been carried by his defense.

    Yes the Saints defense was suspect, but they were one of the top turnover forcing teams that year. What is another name for an interception again?

    You know who else has a career average of 8 yards an attempt? Philip Rivers, but apparently it’s only amazing if it is done by a Steeler QB, because you later go on to bash Rivers and laugh at even comparing him to Ben. But maybe you should go look at what Rivers has done over the past three years before you laugh at the comparison. Statistically, it’s better than anything Ben has ever done. No Rivers hasn’t won a superbowl in that time, but again, football is the ultimate team sport. One player isn’t going to win the team a superbowl.

    I’m not slighting Ben, I acknowledge he is one of the best QBs in the NFL. But he is not as good as Manning or Brady. He’s just had the benefit of playing on a much better team than Manning.

    Answer this Mr. Real Football Fan, which team would struggle more without their QB? The Steelers or the Colts?

    As far as the best players list, I’ll take the word of the people that play against Ben every Sunday over the word of a self proclaim real football fan (do you think calling yourself a REAL football fan actually means anything? Or places you above any other football fan? Because it doesn’t.)

  177. The Prophet says: Jul 14, 2011 2:25 AM

    Roethlisberger was unable to pull it off despite his defense in the SB, so what. he’s won more major playoff games in his short career than Peyton Manning ever did in his 14.

    And why is he even saying this crap anyway. This folks is why the Steelers suck.

  178. bringbacktheflex says: Jul 14, 2011 9:22 AM

    We need a top ten WORST TEAMMATES list. A player has to have had real talent and shown or have the potential to be a really good player, but through words or actions have the destructive power to alienate and fracture a locker room, and negatively impact on-field performance. Current and recent players only.

    Lets’ see:
    Terrell Owens
    James Harrison
    Adam Jones
    Randy Moss
    Brett Favre
    Albert Haynesworth
    Jay Cutler
    Vince Young

    That’s my starters. Need more coffee to continue.

  179. cincyalldaway says: Jul 14, 2011 9:51 AM

    melonnhead says:
    Jul 13, 2011 5:13 PM
    d3murf, I have to ask… are you James Harrison’s woman? If you are, thumbs down this post.

    ==================================
    Actually he’s sounds more like James Harrison’s biatch! Oh wait…..I’m not sounding like a “white football fan” am I?? S@#t!

  180. realfootballfan says: Jul 14, 2011 3:28 PM

    enders9,

    There’s really no need to get petty because you’re a a biased Colts fan, but the numbers don’t lie.

    Peyton’s playoff offenses have averaged around 14 ppg, so I don’t think his defense has anything to do with them losing. He had Edgerin James rushing for 1500 yards a year, and he was throwing to a Hall of Fame wide receiver (and another very good one since his decline), while playing indoors at home for most of these losses.

    He lost a playoff game to Jay freaking Fiedler once upon a time, lol.

    Bottom line is that Roethlisberger has better post-season numbers, but I guess that’s Dick Labeau’s doing, lol.

    I guess the defense has helped him have the best playoff completion percentage on 3rd downs in the playoffs the last 5 years too, huh?

    I guess the Colts regularly getting pushed out of the playoffs by lesser teams falls anywhere but on Peyton’s shoulders when his teams go from scoring 26-32 ppg to 14 ppg over his career in playoff games. Know who’s teams don’t dip in offensive productivity, Roethlisberger’s 3 playoff losses all involved his team scoring 25+ points, and I don’t remember them all being long rushing TDs while he sat and watched, lol.

    you keep bringing up Roethlisberger’s Super Bowls, but fail to mention that Manning kind of stunk in a lot more big spots before he ever got 1st and 2nd seeded teams to the game, which makes your whole premise laughable.

    Peyton’s great, but dude, he’s no better than Roethlisberger. Furthermore, those same players said that Michael Vick is a top 20 player, Ray Lewis (at 35), and a run down Ed Reed are also top 10, lol.

    And Rivers numbers are irrelevant in this conversation when he’s lost to the lower seeded Jetstwice and gotten rolled by Roethlisberger with a comparable roster.

    Also, if my posts are too long for you, stop retorting with your own overlogn posts, accept that you’re wrong, and let’s move on, lol.

  181. rarebuilder says: Jul 16, 2011 4:19 AM

    I thought this was a thread about Harrison’s comments?

  182. enders9 says: Jul 16, 2011 12:57 PM

    @realfootballfan

    Asking you about your name, and why you refer to yourself as a real football fan, isn’t petty. You obviously think putting the word “real” in front of “football fan” somehow places you above others. When it doesn’t. And I am not at all a Colts fan or a Manning fan. I just realize that football is a team sport, and Ben has always played on a much better overall team than Manning.

    MANNING lost to Jay Fiedler? Once again, thank you for proving my point. The Colts DEFENSE lost to Jay Fiedler (not Manning).

    Better post season numbers? Since Ben has been in the league they have both played in 13 playoff games, Manning has more yards (and it’s not even close), same amount of TDs, and less interceptions.

    And I don’t know where you are getting this 14 ppg average, the Colts have only scored 14 points or less in a playoff game 3 times in his entire career. I added it all up and came up with a 22 ppg average, so where are you getting 14?

    Look at their past several playoff losses. Generally, Peyton has played pretty well in all of them. Sure he has made mistakes, but overall he had pretty good games. A good example, the Jets this year. Peyton had a much better game in a losing effort, than Ben had in a winning effort.

    Ben has had more bad games than just in the Superbowl, I only bring up his terrible superbowl games because everyone tries to say Ben is such a huge big game QB. Yet, in two of his three Superbowls, he has been anything BUT a big game QB.

    And by saying Rivers numbers are irrelevant you have shown your bias and I don’t need to argue this further. You are just a fanboy of Roethlisberger.

    Any REAL football fan knows that Manning is by far a better QB.

    Also, you failed to answer this question: which team would struggle more without their QB? The Steelers or the Colts?

  183. thefightingfitzpatrick says: Jul 23, 2011 1:42 PM

    Oh…
    Let’s see how many endorsements these two QBs have!
    MANNING:
    Gatorade
    DirecTV
    Sony
    Sprint
    Oreo (with brother Peyton)
    ROETHLISBERGER:
    NO NATIONAL ENDORSEMENTS!

    I guess DiarreHarrison is right. Ben is no Peyton Manning. Roethlisberger will never get any national commercial deals. I know what commercial James DiarreHarrison can do…he can replace the mucus monster in those Mucinex ads! ;)

  184. danrooneyii says: Aug 2, 2011 5:46 AM

    Is everyone here delusional? You guys act like Ben wins with poor stats.

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