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Wednesday’s talks are expected to continue into the night

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The owners and the players reconvened on Wednesday, for the first time in months without a mediator/chaperon/babysitter.

And yet somehow they have found a way to stay in the same room together for an entire day.

Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the Wednesday session is expected to continue into the night.

The overtime session comes amid a dispute as to how close the talks are — or aren’t — to completion.  Saints quarterback Drew Brees, a member of the NFLPA* Executive Committee and one of the 10 named plaintiffs in the Brady antitrust lawsuit, told Scott Kaplan and Billy Ray Smith of XX 1090 in San Diego earlier today that a deal is close.

We’re very close to a settlement,” Brees said. “We’re at that point in the negotiations where there’s just a few more details that need to be ironed out.”

Other players, including Steelers safety Ryan Clark and Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco, say it’s not close.  Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports has promised to explain it all in a new column that will be coming soon.

Our guess is that Brees has decided to play with the owners the game that the owners have been playing with the players — creating pressure to do a deal by building expectations that a deal is coming.  With fewer and fewer remaining disagreements, someone needs to blink.  The owners think it will be the players.  The players are letting the owners know it won’t happen.

And so once the owners realize that, the two sides can compromise on those final remaining issues.

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40 Responses to “Wednesday’s talks are expected to continue into the night”
  1. stairwayto7 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:00 PM

    No deal until Sept 27!

  2. jm11890 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:01 PM

    im so sick of this garbage. just get it done

  3. ICDogg says: Jul 13, 2011 7:04 PM

    Red Bull? Meh. Break out the booze!

  4. hawkjuice says: Jul 13, 2011 7:05 PM

    Somehow I’m more inclined believe a member of the executive commitee over Ochocinco and Ryan Clark about how close they are.

  5. nfl25 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:08 PM

    The owners just said a deal was close. The players came out and they took it a step further and threw in “we presented a fair deal to the owners and the ball is now in their court”. If they are fighting about the right to first refusal thing, then I agree with the players. No team should get the right of first refusal on any player. Most of these guys should have been free agents last year.

    These guys need some time off. They are working like 3 hours a day with weekends off, that’s rough.

  6. realitypolice says: Jul 13, 2011 7:09 PM

    Or maybe Drew Brees, who is involved in the lawsuit and probably being briefed by the lawyers on a regular basis, knows more about what is going on than a knucklehead who has spent the lockout getting injured filming reality TV shows.

  7. shian11 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:10 PM

    It’s time to get a deal done!!! Everyday that goes buy, the owners are losing more money!! Just today, the owners lost another $25,000 they could have fined Harrison. It’s time to get this deal done so we can get back to the real buisness of the NFL, fines and suspension and “protecting the shield” what a joke!!

  8. cincinnasti says: Jul 13, 2011 7:13 PM

    The question is can all this go through the court process quick enough for teams to get in to training camp on time? I don’t think so.. The eleventh hour is here and some very important things may have already been sacrificed or postponed.. Glad to see things are moving in the right direction though..

  9. p4hbiz says: Jul 13, 2011 7:15 PM

    Whatever!

  10. vbe2 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:16 PM

    If they were really serious about this they could have had a deal done a couple months ago. All they’d have had to do was talk to each other more than 2 or 3 days a week.

    Talk every day, 7 days a week 12 hours a day until a deal is tone.

    I’m sick of all this crap now, from both sides both owners and players.

    The ONLY ones happy are the scumbag lawyers.

  11. p4hbiz says: Jul 13, 2011 7:16 PM

    Call me when it’s signed.

  12. samoanjungle says: Jul 13, 2011 7:17 PM

    I shaved my eyebrows off today

  13. canetic says: Jul 13, 2011 7:23 PM

    Perhaps if they would have done some work on Monday and Tuesday they could have avoided working tonight. Poor babies must be exhausted with this difficult schedule. They might not make it to the strip clubs until 11:30!

  14. rambo08 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:24 PM

    You really can’t blame Chad Ochocinco for saying a deal isn’t close. I’m sure he’d rather sit out an entire season rather than deal with Mike Brown on a daily basis again.

  15. illwillthemick says: Jul 13, 2011 7:28 PM

    blah.. blah.. blah..

  16. JackLeone says: Jul 13, 2011 7:30 PM

    Whatever it takes to get a deal done…

  17. francheyes says: Jul 13, 2011 7:43 PM

    Wow, acting like grown-ups…I wish my biggest problem was trying to divide billions of dollars…oh well, it’s just the fans that suffer

  18. psr179 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:47 PM

    nothing bad will come from this. CBA agreement by the weekend. Book it dan-o

  19. intherelikeswimwear says: Jul 13, 2011 7:49 PM

    “…it gives you wiiiiiiiiiiiiings!”

  20. waketripper says: Jul 13, 2011 7:50 PM

    They had to wait this long before working “overtime” ? Wow.

  21. hobartbaker says: Jul 13, 2011 7:51 PM

    After hours instead of the usual bull, we get Red Bull.

  22. eaglez10 says: Jul 13, 2011 7:53 PM

    If they keep up the good work this deal will be done in anthor year or two

  23. imatulsadawg says: Jul 13, 2011 7:53 PM

    Two years in, the deal is fixing to get done at the last moment. At least we’ve figured out that procrastination harbors no discrimination. It works equally well with 8th grade term papers and 9 billion dollar deals.

  24. raiduhdude says: Jul 13, 2011 7:56 PM

    Sweet. Although they should have been doing this from day one…no biggie right??

  25. clblay78 says: Jul 13, 2011 8:01 PM

    Amazing that they can spend so much time arguing over a rookie wage scale. There has to be other items they are haggling over. Oh well, at least they are continuing to work on it. Stay late, make progress.

  26. bubbabart says: Jul 13, 2011 8:13 PM

    Awww, I’m sorry mike….was that your party??

  27. cincinnasti says: Jul 13, 2011 8:19 PM

    realitypolice says: Jul 13, 2011 7:09 PM

    Or maybe Drew Brees, who is involved in the lawsuit and probably being briefed by the lawyers on a regular basis, knows more about what is going on than a knucklehead who has spent the lockout getting injured filming reality TV shows.

    ______

    That was T.O. that got injured not Ochocinco.. A better one would have been saying he was knucklehead for bull riding and playing soccer during the lockout.. Nice try though..

  28. johnjosephyossarian says: Jul 13, 2011 8:19 PM

    OMG, by totally having an opinion thinking that one side is more at fault than other that clearly means you’re BIASED and not capable of an impartial review of the known FACTS. Everyone knows that owners can’t be wrong because they OWN the team and are jOB CREATORS, and if you look over the situation and make a sober judgement they’re at FAULT you HAVE to be biased because even a person like me that is a complete NFL outsider just knows the OWNERS are right. And the only way a person could side by the players is if they are BIASED and stupid.

    If you’re not agreeing with my preconceived notions of things you’re obviously wrong!

  29. shian11 says: Jul 13, 2011 8:22 PM

    BREAKING NEWS!!!!! deal is close!!!!
    BREAKING NEWS!!!!! deal is far apart!!!!
    JOKE!!!!

    On a side note, mike marts said they could be ready for hall of fame game on one day notice, yet the bears offense has yet to be ready for a game in 2 years!! Interesting

  30. vetdana says: Jul 13, 2011 8:23 PM

    Its either close….or it is NOT. Even if it is close, all it takes is one issue, that neither side will compromise on, to stall the negotiations.No deal until it is signed and delivered. Period !!

  31. bobbyd12 says: Jul 13, 2011 8:30 PM

    For some reason I believe Chad Ochocinco, gut feeling. I also know the Giants have not asked their Season Ticket Holders for money yet, when that happens then the lockout is truly over.

  32. chatham10 says: Jul 13, 2011 8:30 PM

    The CBA will be signed but the quality of play will not be up to standard and all year the players and the press will say”it was because of the owners lockout” but one fact remains, the play might be late and it might be bad but the fans will still be playing full price.

  33. eaglesfootballfan says: Jul 13, 2011 8:31 PM

    Time to get this deal done ASAP.

  34. buckybadger says: Jul 13, 2011 8:48 PM

    Make it Friday. I got the 15th in my office pool.

  35. 1historian says: Jul 13, 2011 9:20 PM

    Two words:

    ex.

    lax.

  36. krashie21 says: Jul 13, 2011 9:35 PM

    Hey….if the talks go through the night….think of how quiet the strip clubs and police precincts will be in our major cities!!!!!!

  37. realitypolice says: Jul 13, 2011 9:51 PM

    cincinnasti says:
    Jul 13, 2011 8:19 PM
    realitypolice says: Jul 13, 2011 7:09 PM

    Or maybe Drew Brees, who is involved in the lawsuit and probably being briefed by the lawyers on a regular basis, knows more about what is going on than a knucklehead who has spent the lockout getting injured filming reality TV shows.

    ______

    That was T.O. that got injured not Ochocinco.. A better one would have been saying he was knucklehead for bull riding and playing soccer during the lockout.. Nice try though..
    =======================

    Ouch. My bad.

    I admit to having stupid opinions sometimes, but I usually try to have my facts straight.

    My point about Brees being closer to the negotiations than most others players survives my horrible botching of the facts, however.

  38. gimmeabruschi says: Jul 13, 2011 10:02 PM

    Of course a deal is coming. These union things go until the last minute with each side hoping the other folds.

    I’ve been in these sorts of things and the talk is all pure BS. When the time is up the deal gets done if it’s already close and you have more to lose by not making the deal than making it.

    The question in this is; when is the time up?

  39. tomwill21 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:11 PM

    I think Chad was upset that his name wasn’t in the news for a while. He hasn’t rode a bull or tried out for a soccer team or played catch with Pryor in a while. And it seems like every Steeler wants to get in the news. I do care about the CBA, but I don’t buy anything Clark or Ochocinco is selling…

  40. tomwill21 says: Jul 13, 2011 10:14 PM

    I don’t care about the CBA I mean

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