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	<title>Comments on: Golden Tate says NASCAR drivers aren&#8217;t athletes, hears it from racing fans</title>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;anactualnflowner says:
Jul 20, 2011 1:53 PM
NASCAR fans… You tell me why NASCAR is a sport and I’ll tell you why poker is a sport.&quot;


Nascar, or any high speed competitive racing requires physical stamina and endurance which is part of the definition of an athlete.  That &quot;and&quot; the fact that it is highly competitive with large amounts of money on the line makes it a sport.  Poker and chess for that matter is not a sport, it is a game, because it involves &quot;mental&quot; endurance only, not physical endurance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;anactualnflowner says:<br />
Jul 20, 2011 1:53 PM<br />
NASCAR fans… You tell me why NASCAR is a sport and I’ll tell you why poker is a sport.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nascar, or any high speed competitive racing requires physical stamina and endurance which is part of the definition of an athlete.  That &#8220;and&#8221; the fact that it is highly competitive with large amounts of money on the line makes it a sport.  Poker and chess for that matter is not a sport, it is a game, because it involves &#8220;mental&#8221; endurance only, not physical endurance.</p>
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		<title>By: powderedme</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mikeyfan5599 says: 
&quot;Then come back an appology about your ignorance.&quot;

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You first, champ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikeyfan5599 says:<br />
&#8220;Then come back an appology about your ignorance.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>You first, champ.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeyfan5599</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a bunch of ignorant people on this board like Golden Tate was.  But Golden was smart enough to do a little research and now has changed his mind and concedes that NASCAR drivers are some of the best athletes in the world.  

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/6789712/nascar-golden-tate-coming-drivers-athletes

Oh, and Race car drivers as a whole are much better athletes than football players are.  

Just review the results from the American College of Sports Medicine report from 2002.

http://www.acsm.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home_Page&amp;TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&amp;CONTENTID=4285

Then come back an appology about your ignorance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a bunch of ignorant people on this board like Golden Tate was.  But Golden was smart enough to do a little research and now has changed his mind and concedes that NASCAR drivers are some of the best athletes in the world.  </p>
<p><a href="http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/6789712/nascar-golden-tate-coming-drivers-athletes" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/6789712/nascar-golden-tate-coming-drivers-athletes</a></p>
<p>Oh, and Race car drivers as a whole are much better athletes than football players are.  </p>
<p>Just review the results from the American College of Sports Medicine report from 2002.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.acsm.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home_Page&#038;TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&#038;CONTENTID=4285" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsm.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home_Page&#038;TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&#038;CONTENTID=4285</a></p>
<p>Then come back an appology about your ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When are you idiots in here going to get it.......?????

There is a difference between sports and athletics.......race-car driving IS a sport......it is NOT athletics.....basketball &amp; football are athletics.....and yes, a sport.........but athletics ARENT required for something to be a sport. Bowling, golf, skeet-shooting, hunting, racecar driving are ALL sports...not athletics!!!!!!!!!!

Stop saying something is not a sport because you dont have to be an athlete........WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are you idiots in here going to get it&#8230;&#8230;.?????</p>
<p>There is a difference between sports and athletics&#8230;&#8230;.race-car driving IS a sport&#8230;&#8230;it is NOT athletics&#8230;..basketball &amp; football are athletics&#8230;..and yes, a sport&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;but athletics ARENT required for something to be a sport. Bowling, golf, skeet-shooting, hunting, racecar driving are ALL sports&#8230;not athletics!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Stop saying something is not a sport because you dont have to be an athlete&#8230;&#8230;..WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!</p>
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		<title>By: jkennedy1970</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jkennedy1970]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the words of the great Ricky Bobby, &quot;If you&#039;re not first, you&#039;re LAST!&quot;  

Sorry Nascar homers....its not a sport...its what guys do who have limited athletic ability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of the great Ricky Bobby, &#8220;If you&#8217;re not first, you&#8217;re LAST!&#8221;  </p>
<p>Sorry Nascar homers&#8230;.its not a sport&#8230;its what guys do who have limited athletic ability.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsdrenched</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsdrenched]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nascar is not a sport. It’s drivers are not athletes. Nascar is one of the last events where fans can still bring their own coolers full of beer. It is nothing more than a tailgate party gone wild.
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This is a bad thing?  Seems like that would be a reason to go to a NASCAR race.  We&#039;re down to how much the beer costs as a determining factor in a sports legitamacy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nascar is not a sport. It’s drivers are not athletes. Nascar is one of the last events where fans can still bring their own coolers full of beer. It is nothing more than a tailgate party gone wild.<br />
*************<br />
This is a bad thing?  Seems like that would be a reason to go to a NASCAR race.  We&#8217;re down to how much the beer costs as a determining factor in a sports legitamacy?</p>
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		<title>By: dolphindad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphindad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the real breaking news here is that there are NASCAR fans on Twitter, or even that there are NASCAR fans that can read. 

boom!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real breaking news here is that there are NASCAR fans on Twitter, or even that there are NASCAR fans that can read. </p>
<p>boom!</p>
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		<title>By: dolphindad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphindad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh come on now. its hard to take that key and put it in the ignition. think of the muscles you need to push down on that gas pedal. and dont get me started with turning the wheel. years of training by Mr. Miagi (wax on wax off) are need to master the art of turning in a cirlce. not athletes? gimme a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh come on now. its hard to take that key and put it in the ignition. think of the muscles you need to push down on that gas pedal. and dont get me started with turning the wheel. years of training by Mr. Miagi (wax on wax off) are need to master the art of turning in a cirlce. not athletes? gimme a break.</p>
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		<title>By: anactualnflowner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anactualnflowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASCAR fans... You tell me why NASCAR is a sport and I&#039;ll tell you why poker is a sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASCAR fans&#8230; You tell me why NASCAR is a sport and I&#8217;ll tell you why poker is a sport.</p>
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		<title>By: secgreatness</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[secgreatness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@alldayap

Nope sorry, body mass index doesn&#039;t define ones athleticism.  Bottom Line, you sit in a car and go around in a circle.  Any way you slice it, it&#039;s not a sport, nor are they athletes.   Ping Pong players are more athletic than NASCAR drivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alldayap</p>
<p>Nope sorry, body mass index doesn&#8217;t define ones athleticism.  Bottom Line, you sit in a car and go around in a circle.  Any way you slice it, it&#8217;s not a sport, nor are they athletes.   Ping Pong players are more athletic than NASCAR drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: hatesycophants</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hatesycophants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tdk24 and djrand07,

NASCAR had an &quot;athlete&quot; busted for using meth.  Freaking meth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tdk24 and djrand07,</p>
<p>NASCAR had an &#8220;athlete&#8221; busted for using meth.  Freaking meth?</p>
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		<title>By: bturner032002</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont watch nascar but i do know that they can take around 4 to 5 g&#039;s on corners.

Thats almost the same as getting crushed by ray lewis twice a lap.  When they crash they can take a split second of 20-30 g&#039;s.  And it does get up to 120 degrees inside the car during the race. 

At least have to respect the guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont watch nascar but i do know that they can take around 4 to 5 g&#8217;s on corners.</p>
<p>Thats almost the same as getting crushed by ray lewis twice a lap.  When they crash they can take a split second of 20-30 g&#8217;s.  And it does get up to 120 degrees inside the car during the race. </p>
<p>At least have to respect the guys.</p>
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		<title>By: bigdawgy54</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASCAR drivers are NOT athletes. They have to be physically tolerant and possess hand/eye coordination but, that is not the full definition of an athlete. I would no more call an airline pilot (who sits) an athlete than I would a NASCAR driver.
Being an athlete means the &quot;individual&quot; themselves competes in physical skill tests such as speed, strenght, stamina, ability to maneuver, jumping, and using one&#039;s feet and full body in motion. A bowler is also a competitor but not an athlete. A pool player is a competitor but not an athlete.
NASCAR requires great skill and bravery. But, the driver does not meet the true definition of an athlete. I cannot classify someone performing on their butts as athletes.
Since they push on the gas peddle, maybe they could qualify as having &quot;athlete&#039;s feet.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASCAR drivers are NOT athletes. They have to be physically tolerant and possess hand/eye coordination but, that is not the full definition of an athlete. I would no more call an airline pilot (who sits) an athlete than I would a NASCAR driver.<br />
Being an athlete means the &#8220;individual&#8221; themselves competes in physical skill tests such as speed, strenght, stamina, ability to maneuver, jumping, and using one&#8217;s feet and full body in motion. A bowler is also a competitor but not an athlete. A pool player is a competitor but not an athlete.<br />
NASCAR requires great skill and bravery. But, the driver does not meet the true definition of an athlete. I cannot classify someone performing on their butts as athletes.<br />
Since they push on the gas peddle, maybe they could qualify as having &#8220;athlete&#8217;s feet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: granadafan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TheWizard says:
Jul 16, 2011 7:43 AM
If they want to call golfers athletes, drivers can be too.&quot;

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Golfers aren&#039;t athletes either and neither are drivers.  John Daly can barely WALK 18 holes without looking like he&#039;s going to start flopping like a flounder. Tom Watson, a senior citizen can still compete with the young guys. Golf is not a sport. It&#039;s a game.  Just because it&#039;s popular doesn&#039;t make it a sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheWizard says:<br />
Jul 16, 2011 7:43 AM<br />
If they want to call golfers athletes, drivers can be too.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Golfers aren&#8217;t athletes either and neither are drivers.  John Daly can barely WALK 18 holes without looking like he&#8217;s going to start flopping like a flounder. Tom Watson, a senior citizen can still compete with the young guys. Golf is not a sport. It&#8217;s a game.  Just because it&#8217;s popular doesn&#8217;t make it a sport.</p>
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		<title>By: packerzman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and yes nascar nation…i do know what im talking about…im the demographic of racing fan and sports fans that have left your sport in droves because of a number of things including increased commercialization (7 minutes of racing followed by 5 minutes of commercials) and the increased number of BORING cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks where racing IS like putting M&amp;Ms in a toilet and flushing…round and round they go and most of the excitement in a 4 hour race is in the pits or with 10 laps to go when they actually start to race on the track and cant stop crashing into one another. Todd Helton can try all he wants (the ever changing chase..wild cards..the car of tomorrow…the car of today…restrictor plates or not..god forbid the most over rated driver in ALL of motorsports Danica Patrick..) but until he finds a way to increase TV ratings and also fill those empty seats at most tracks disguised as fans Nascar will continue to struggle finding its niche in American sports landscape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yes nascar nation…i do know what im talking about…im the demographic of racing fan and sports fans that have left your sport in droves because of a number of things including increased commercialization (7 minutes of racing followed by 5 minutes of commercials) and the increased number of BORING cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks where racing IS like putting M&amp;Ms in a toilet and flushing…round and round they go and most of the excitement in a 4 hour race is in the pits or with 10 laps to go when they actually start to race on the track and cant stop crashing into one another. Todd Helton can try all he wants (the ever changing chase..wild cards..the car of tomorrow…the car of today…restrictor plates or not..god forbid the most over rated driver in ALL of motorsports Danica Patrick..) but until he finds a way to increase TV ratings and also fill those empty seats at most tracks disguised as fans Nascar will continue to struggle finding its niche in American sports landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: packerzman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to the people who say nascar is americas #1 sport because they “draw 150,000 people to every event” here are some things you might want to think about..on any given sunday across the united states there are between 12 and 16 NFL games going on with an average attendance of 80,000 people..so by my math (insert redneck joke here if you so wish) there are over 1 million fans attending games every sunday..just imagine for a minute how many fans the NFL would draw if like nascar they played 1 game a week in 1 stadium..and before you respond think long and hard about all the things todd helton has done for the last 5 years to try and stop the bleeding about declining attendance at most of the tracks and even more importantly worsening TV ratings..something the NFL hasnt had to worry about.After Dale Sr. was killed nascars ratings spiked through the roof for about 5 years and have been in decline ever since…partly because Dale Jr has been a huge disappointment and hasnt won a race in 2+ years. The argument of whether drivers are athletes can continue (and there have been some on both sides that have made me laugh out loud) but the argument that nascar is “americas favorite and most popular sport” is both naive and ignorant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the people who say nascar is americas #1 sport because they “draw 150,000 people to every event” here are some things you might want to think about..on any given sunday across the united states there are between 12 and 16 NFL games going on with an average attendance of 80,000 people..so by my math (insert redneck joke here if you so wish) there are over 1 million fans attending games every sunday..just imagine for a minute how many fans the NFL would draw if like nascar they played 1 game a week in 1 stadium..and before you respond think long and hard about all the things todd helton has done for the last 5 years to try and stop the bleeding about declining attendance at most of the tracks and even more importantly worsening TV ratings..something the NFL hasnt had to worry about.After Dale Sr. was killed nascars ratings spiked through the roof for about 5 years and have been in decline ever since…partly because Dale Jr has been a huge disappointment and hasnt won a race in 2+ years. The argument of whether drivers are athletes can continue (and there have been some on both sides that have made me laugh out loud) but the argument that nascar is “americas favorite and most popular sport” is both naive and ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: lostsok</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny reading the &#039;necks defend NASCAR.  Like anyone else even CARES.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny reading the &#8216;necks defend NASCAR.  Like anyone else even CARES.</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[backuppunter - what strength do drivers need? Please]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backuppunter &#8211; what strength do drivers need? Please</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Golfers aren&#039;t athletes either.........there are SOME athletes playing golf as there are some athletes that drive professionally..but they aren&#039;t athletes because of their profession.

Also, fat lineman ARE athletes.......they aren&#039;t chiseled athletes like a Terrell Owens but they are still athletes...they train with weights...they ARE strong (which they need to be for their sport) and they do have (at least to some degree) some cardio training...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golfers aren&#8217;t athletes either&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;there are SOME athletes playing golf as there are some athletes that drive professionally..but they aren&#8217;t athletes because of their profession.</p>
<p>Also, fat lineman ARE athletes&#8230;&#8230;.they aren&#8217;t chiseled athletes like a Terrell Owens but they are still athletes&#8230;they train with weights&#8230;they ARE strong (which they need to be for their sport) and they do have (at least to some degree) some cardio training&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TheWizard - doesn&#039;t matter.......they are not athletes.....workers in a steel mill work long and hard......they aren&#039;t athletes......construction workers work long and hard, they aren&#039;t athletes........sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheWizard &#8211; doesn&#8217;t matter&#8230;&#8230;.they are not athletes&#8230;..workers in a steel mill work long and hard&#8230;&#8230;they aren&#8217;t athletes&#8230;&#8230;construction workers work long and hard, they aren&#8217;t athletes&#8230;&#8230;..sorry</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[denverdude7 - WRONG...NASCAR IS a sport.......it is NOT athletics.........drivers are sportsmen NOT athletes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>denverdude7 &#8211; WRONG&#8230;NASCAR IS a sport&#8230;&#8230;.it is NOT athletics&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;drivers are sportsmen NOT athletes!</p>
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		<title>By: SpartaChris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SpartaChris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Alldayap: VERY well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alldayap: VERY well said.</p>
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		<title>By: alldayap</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alldayap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those of you who say its not a sport.  Any competition among others is a sport.  Look it up.

Those of you who say you have to be fit, Pat Williams isnt exactly the most chiseled bodied specimen out there.  Ortiz on the Sox looks pretty hefty, Tony Gwynn didnt exactly light the scale on fire.

Those of you who think its merely sitting in a seat and driving on a freeway, you&#039;re as ignorant as they come.  Perhaps they don&#039;t fit your definition of an athlete, or a sport, but that doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t fit (95% of them anyway) and is no different than many other sports in the same way.

In fact if you wanted to go the body mass route, only soccer and basketball would be considered sports, but even in basketball you see some heftier guys (yeah you Shaq).

Oh, and about the whole alcohol deal, more fights break out at baseball and football games than at a NASCAR even which houses more people at each venue then a football and baseball game combined.

Suck on those facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who say its not a sport.  Any competition among others is a sport.  Look it up.</p>
<p>Those of you who say you have to be fit, Pat Williams isnt exactly the most chiseled bodied specimen out there.  Ortiz on the Sox looks pretty hefty, Tony Gwynn didnt exactly light the scale on fire.</p>
<p>Those of you who think its merely sitting in a seat and driving on a freeway, you&#8217;re as ignorant as they come.  Perhaps they don&#8217;t fit your definition of an athlete, or a sport, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t fit (95% of them anyway) and is no different than many other sports in the same way.</p>
<p>In fact if you wanted to go the body mass route, only soccer and basketball would be considered sports, but even in basketball you see some heftier guys (yeah you Shaq).</p>
<p>Oh, and about the whole alcohol deal, more fights break out at baseball and football games than at a NASCAR even which houses more people at each venue then a football and baseball game combined.</p>
<p>Suck on those facts.</p>
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		<title>By: denverdude7</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nascar is not a sport. It&#039;s drivers are not athletes. Nascar is one of the last events where fans can still bring their own coolers full of beer. It is nothing more than a tailgate party gone wild.

The end is on the horizon however. As it&#039;s growth continues, does anyone really believe the coolers of beer will be continued to be allowed? 

Of course not. The track owners will see all the potential $7 beer sales and move to take full advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nascar is not a sport. It&#8217;s drivers are not athletes. Nascar is one of the last events where fans can still bring their own coolers full of beer. It is nothing more than a tailgate party gone wild.</p>
<p>The end is on the horizon however. As it&#8217;s growth continues, does anyone really believe the coolers of beer will be continued to be allowed? </p>
<p>Of course not. The track owners will see all the potential $7 beer sales and move to take full advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: TheWizard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheWizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they want to call golfers athletes, drivers can be too.

For those of you not familiar with the sport, imagine strapping yourself in a machine for 3 straight hours, over 100 degree heat, keep your focus and attention at 100% for those three hours except for the occasional caution flag.

 Those guys are exhausted when they get out, even top-shape guys like Edwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want to call golfers athletes, drivers can be too.</p>
<p>For those of you not familiar with the sport, imagine strapping yourself in a machine for 3 straight hours, over 100 degree heat, keep your focus and attention at 100% for those three hours except for the occasional caution flag.</p>
<p> Those guys are exhausted when they get out, even top-shape guys like Edwards.</p>
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		<title>By: drednot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zeckwreck says: 
Jul 15, 2011 5:31 PM 
Thank you Golden…Anyone claiming that Kobe Bryant, Lance Armstrong, and Jimmie Johnson are all “professional athletes” is insane. 

NASCAR is definitely competitive, but you definitely don’t have to be a professional-level athlete all around to make it in that sport.

Same goes for bowling…

*******************************************

AND GOLF!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zeckwreck says:<br />
Jul 15, 2011 5:31 PM<br />
Thank you Golden…Anyone claiming that Kobe Bryant, Lance Armstrong, and Jimmie Johnson are all “professional athletes” is insane. </p>
<p>NASCAR is definitely competitive, but you definitely don’t have to be a professional-level athlete all around to make it in that sport.</p>
<p>Same goes for bowling…</p>
<p>*******************************************</p>
<p>AND GOLF!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bigmikeyreturns</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmikeyreturns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no doubt that it takes physical and mental skill, endurance and extreme concentration to be a NASCAR driver.  As well as being slightly nuts.  Whether or not that is the definition of an athlete is obviously up for debate.  

I think they&#039;re athletes.  There are no overweight slobs driving on sleep apnea in NASCAR.

If NASCAR drivers aren&#039;t athletes, neither are golfers.  Tiger Woods is not an athlete.

Go fast, turn left!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that it takes physical and mental skill, endurance and extreme concentration to be a NASCAR driver.  As well as being slightly nuts.  Whether or not that is the definition of an athlete is obviously up for debate.  </p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re athletes.  There are no overweight slobs driving on sleep apnea in NASCAR.</p>
<p>If NASCAR drivers aren&#8217;t athletes, neither are golfers.  Tiger Woods is not an athlete.</p>
<p>Go fast, turn left!</p>
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		<title>By: gibbsandflair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gibbsandflair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nate Nweton was an athlete, right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate Nweton was an athlete, right.</p>
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		<title>By: marcus158</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marcus158]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what is your defination of an athlete?

If driving a car at 150mph and maintaining control of it as other drives try to shunt and overtake you isn&#039;t a sport, you go and do it.

Let&#039;s see how long you last.

My reckoning is less than half a lap before you crash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is your defination of an athlete?</p>
<p>If driving a car at 150mph and maintaining control of it as other drives try to shunt and overtake you isn&#8217;t a sport, you go and do it.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how long you last.</p>
<p>My reckoning is less than half a lap before you crash.</p>
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		<title>By: donniebmc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[donniebmc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard a great acronym for NASCAR:

Non Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a great acronym for NASCAR:</p>
<p>Non Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks!</p>
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