Tell me what doesn’t make sense about my comment about the preseason. Where does it say that you have to watch the starters play in the preseason? Again, you are a dumbass to believe that you are entitled to see starters playing in the preseason. The preseason is not for you. If you don’t like the preseason then do as I said. Either don’t go or don’t be a season ticket holder. The preseason is where coaches make final decisions on who they are going to keep and let go. They also use the preseason to try out new things in a game situation.

You sit here and complain about not having quality football in the preseason because the starters don’t play, but you don’t mind them taking games off at the end of the season. Doesn’t that still count as games that dont have any quality to them in your book? Maybe you are too dumb to realize how stupid you make yourself look with the way you contradict yourself. Again, you are a dumbass.

Yeah, I can’t afford to buy season tickets, but in reality, I still wouldn’t do it even if I did have the resources. I have better things to spend my money on anyway and still get a better seat than you at my house. I don’t need to buy overpriced beer, food, and other items to enjoy a game. I don’t need to be bothered by people I don’t like and having to wait in long lines to go to the restroom.

Lastly, I am not a Steeler fan. I am and always will be a Baltimore Ravens fan. Again, if you don’t like preseason because of the price, then don’t be a season ticket holder. Do yourself a real favor and go play in traffic in the middle of the freeway. NOBODY will miss you or your dumbass posts.

7) It is obvious you are a Squealers loser who hasnt the resources to even get NFL season tickets…if you did, you might understand. Paying for a 10 game package and having 2 of those be meaningless pre-season games which cost the SAME as regular season games is ridiculous. That works out to one paying 20% for crap. And…one cannot “opt out” of paying it. Get a life and a clue loser!

1) That is pure speculation on your part..you really have NO IDEA how Davis got a roster spot….so shut your trap

2) Your idiotic point about the preseason makes no sense

3) It is obvious that you cannot even read…i never said the preseason was for the FANS

4) Everyone agrees that the pre-season isnt a real game and every season ticket holder doesnt want to pay for preseason games……your comments are outlandishly stupid.

5) Yes it is called preseason because the games DONT COUNT..which by factual comparison means THEY ARE NOT REAL GAMES

6) Comparing starters NOT playing at the end of regular season because they have locked up a playoff spot is far different than a preseason game you tool…yes, they arent preseason because THEY STILL COUNT

I have never in my life seen a PFT poster who is as much of a total lame-brain as yourself…do everyone a favor in here and go jump off a bridge so we dont have to read your lunacy again…

You have to be even more of an idiot to believe that the preseason is for the fans. Saying dumb things like it isn’t a real game and I don’t want to pay for it is ridiculous. Don’t go if you dont want to see the backups playing. Don’t be a season ticket holder if you are going to complain about having to pay full price for preseason games. Nowhere does it say that the fans HAVE to see the starters battling it out in the preseason. It’s called a preseason for a reason. Do you get mad when the starters don’t play much towards the end of the season? Those aren’t preseason games and you still happily pay for those. Now do you see the B.S. you are talking about?

Secondly..most players that do well in preseason anyway are labelled only as doing so….how many QBs have we seen do well in preseason but it is dismissed as.”oh, its only preseason” or they fail miserably in the regular season.

Preseason games are not a good basis for judgment in the first place.

‘paying customer’.

Even though it is found in the completely absurd sentence “the owners decided to listen to the paying customers” – there it is.

Do MLB clubs expect their players to play all 162 games a season ? No, they have an expanded roster to take account of injuries.

That’s all that needs to happen here, just expand the gameday rosters to 60 or 61, and give current vets the chance to opt out of the extra game(s) if they don’t want to play the extra games. Simple.

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I’m a fan of the NFL and I’m opposed to the 18 game regular season, and let me tell you why:

1) The current scheduling formula is perfect and cannot be improved upon. Any change is automatically inferior, and an 18 game season would change the current formula.

2) Injuries would go up, and the quality of football would go down as a result. This is one area where I sided with the players, 16 games is enough. Just ask any rookie trying to adjust from a ten game schedule, it’s brutal.

3) Overexposure is a problem that baseball currently faces, and the assumption that people will automatically embrace a longer season is dubious at best. Part of football’s charm IMO is that the season doesn’t drag out forever.

I probably could think of more, but there’s no point. Thankfully 16 is still the number.

In fact people like to say how the games are a rip off i tend to believe the opposite. In fact some of the hardest play goes on in the preseason. Sure the guys who know they are going to make the team don’t play much and not really hard when they do, but that doesn’t bother me.

I really enjoy rating the the players and trying to figure out who is going to make the team. I love watching the how hard the young guys try in the pre season.

Also if you take away the pre season it will make life hell for the coaches. All we ever hear about is how the players don’t need 4 games to get ready to play. Well what if the pre season isn’t just practice for the starters. What if it is also a place where coaches can try new things and mostly figure out whos going to make the team in some of the most important positons. Taking away games from the coaches would be a terrible idea. That would give the coaches 2 less games to decide who was going to make the team. A lot of times those choices effect who wins the super bowl… ask the Packers, half their team it seemed like was thrid string guys who made the team based on how they played in the pre season.

I think the clear route to go with the pre season is lower the prices for tickets. And stop making season ticket holder purchase the pre season games as well. Thats a simple solution. And for the starters who complain about not needing a pre season i say shut your mouth. You barely play any way. And in reality a lot that complain just don’t want some young kid getting a shot in the preseason and taking their job. I like the the pre season the way it is. I like the 16 game season the way it is. I even like how it is worked out with divisions playing eachother. These people have the greatest formula in american sports history and because of greed they trying to change it. Yes lets put the whole thing at risk because we want to squeeze a few more pennies out of it. This is quickly becoming the American way, screw everyone you can for a few pennies more. People need to realize this country wasn’t built on money it was built on the need to be free. Not on the need to be rich.

Next poll on the 18 game season find OFFICIAL SEASON TICKET HoLDERS who have had their seats 3+ years and you’ll see.

Non season ticket holders can kiss my rear!!!
You turn it on for free and stay at home. You should get NO SAY couch potatoes.

I hated the last poll as it’s all from people that don’t spend a dime.

Try spending $100 per ticket for two games that cost the same as a regular game, but you get no value.

Eat me non ticket holders!!!!

As a Jets season ticket holder, I don’t like paying the same price for 2 pre-season games as for each of the 8 regular season games. All they have to do is maybe cut the prices in half(or even more) for the pre-season games and there would be no complaints coming from the fans.
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As a Jest season ticket holder they should PAY you to attend that sorry teams games…..I mean after all when was the last time you dopes won a division much less a Super Bowl!! Don’t worry you guys will win it all again this year…Rex guarantees it again….ge thats a 3 peat!!

First of all, how do you know it wasn’t addressed?…we don’t know specifics of the deal yet (if there even IS a deal)

Secondly, if it is a non-issue, not surprising..why? Cause who does it affect the most????that’s right, the fans. and who do they care about LEAST…the fans.

Sitting through 4 dreadful preseason games doesn’t hurt the players (they still get paid) or the owners (they still make their money)………it just hurts the fans…..who have come dead LAST in all of this.

Ridiculous!

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I love that people are still crying “greedy owners/players don’t care about the fans” even though the fans lost absolutely nothing because of this lockout. So many people on this site want to complain about anything.

The 18 game season has a much greater effect on the players and owners then it does on the fans. If you don’t like Preseason games, don’t go. Jesus.

Most 6-0 or 7-0 teams don’t end their season at 7-9. Except the 1994 Eagles.

The players are still playing 20 games. Just make 18 of them count. Get it done.

I’ve never met a fan that is opposed to more football.

The people in this poll must be the same fools that don’t want a playoff in college football.

Don’t cave owners! it’s a matter of principle!
Make the player remember that without you they have nothing!
I take that back, they have something, they could go to work for wal-mart or jiffy lube.

They would still have 34 weeks off, especially if they get their way with the off season contact issue!

These guys are paid millions, and the whine over 2 extra weeks (with pay???)?

Most fans are for the 18 game season…the media only acknowledges the ones against it. Football has the shortest season of the 4 main sports…and the players are acting like a bunch of wusses.

And don’t hand me that bull over football being more gruelling…people who think that clearly have never been to a hockey game.

The truth is, we need a 24 game season at this point. And frankly, I do not care about the “health” of the players. They get paid the big bucks to put their bodies on the line.

Throughout this whole thing, the media has claimed that the players want nothing but what they have previously had under the CBA…that’s a load of crap too.

Take a look at the things leaking out…the players are robbing hte owners and you people are so happy about getting football back that you don’t care.

But rest assured, when ticket prices are high, blackouts are going strong and teams suck because players don’t want to have OTAs anymore, you’ll be whining for something to change…again.

Just like you did when Haynesworth got his big deal.

Completely backwards. More games means more opportunity to make up for a bad start, not less.

Owners don’t want to change the amount of games, just the importance. If three was an 18 game season, we would watch it and we know it, as NFL fans religiously watch the 16 reg season games already. The only difference would be going from 16 watched games and 4 forgotten to 18 watched and 2 forgotten.

Remind me again why fans complain about this.

I have a ton of fun watching every reg season game on sundays, for the entirety of the season—I know I would have fun in game 17 and 18.