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Golden Tate learns a lesson: Don’t mess with NASCAR fans

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After Seahawks receiver Golden Tate caused a controversy by saying NASCAR drivers aren’t athletes, he has decided to relent.

Tate appeared on SiriusXM NASCAR Radio and said that after hearing from hundreds of NASCAR fans on Twitter, he wants them to know he doesn’t mean them any disrespect.

“I will say this: NASCAR fans, do not mess with them,” Tate said. “Do not mess with them. They will eat you alive.”

Tate said that when he tweeted that NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson doesn’t deserve to be considered a great athlete, it was just an instant reaction and not intended to be an insult.

“I wasn’t really too familiar with Jimmie Johnson,” Tate said. “I didn’t mean it to be any disrespect although it might have come across that way.”

In the days since Tate tweeted about NASCAR, he said he has learned a lot about it and is impressed with the drivers.

“I did read up and educate myself, and I will say this: They are incredible people to do that,” Tate said. “After reading up on it I do have respect and I do want to apologize to NASCAR nation.”

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  1. movieman5 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:11 AM

    yeah but that still doesn’t mean he is wrong.

  2. ncoolong says: Jul 16, 2011 9:13 AM

    oh come ON!!! He never said anything about them being lesser people! He just said Jimmie Johnson shouldn’t be considered a great athlete!

  3. promin1 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:14 AM

    When Golden Tate can win 5 straight championships like Jimmy Johnson has maybe then he can open his ignorant mouth. Till then, shut it. Maybe someone will recognize you.

  4. nickster2k says: Jul 16, 2011 9:15 AM

    Dey took aarr jrrrrbs!!!

  5. Steeler's Will says: Jul 16, 2011 9:15 AM

    Tate just learned about damage control.

  6. eagles83 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:16 AM

    That’s great…Now get the deal done!!

  7. fcs34 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:18 AM

    What he meant to say is NASCAR is racist and Jimmie Johnson is no Dale Ernhardt and Kyle Busch fumbles too much.

  8. rayvens says: Jul 16, 2011 9:18 AM

    Im not sure who’s more irrelevant, Golden Tate or NASCAR?

  9. coleman121280 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:18 AM

    I hate this whole BS of trying to make NASCAR, WOMENS SOCCER, AND any womens sport in general important.

    I was watching ESPN interview jockey’s last fall and all I could say is “really?….really?……..really?”

  10. cometkazie says: Jul 16, 2011 9:20 AM

    I suppose it depends entirely on how you define athlete. The Concise OED says “a person who is proficient in sports.”

    If automobile racing is a sport, then the drivers are athletes.

    But this depends on one’s definition of sports and it goes off on another tangent.

    Mega sigh!

  11. dewalt2990 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:20 AM

    by definition they’re athletes, but nascar still sucks.

  12. bigcid10 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:23 AM

    Nascar Drivers aren’t athletes
    their drivers ,that’s a strategy position
    only thing it requires is a car and beer sponsorship
    oh,and beer too
    ever been to the infield at Daytona
    Now those are athletes!

  13. selgaeinla says: Jul 16, 2011 9:24 AM

    Remember when NASCAR was going to take over as the number one sport in America? How’d that work out for you?

  14. therealsmiley says: Jul 16, 2011 9:24 AM

    What he meant to say is Jimmy Johnson can’t run a 4.3 forty and dodge a 250lb linebacker who’s trying to take your head off. Just a different type of athleticism. Hail!

  15. turk2875 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:25 AM

    Why apologize for something thats true? I honestly think I can be a decent driver. And how do you become a NasCar driver, do you get recruited by having a clean drivers record or is it a plus to have multiple speeding tickets??

  16. stlrams1055 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:26 AM

    They are athletes…. They just sit in a chair for a few hundred miles and make left turns. It still takes a ton of skill to drive 200 MPH. If there was someone who could drive away from the law it would be a nascar driver. lol

  17. warmachine2112 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:26 AM

    NASCAR: A sport where having enough IQ to programme a GPS is irrelevant.

    “I wasn’t born with a plastic spoon in my mouth!”

  18. jnbnet says: Jul 16, 2011 9:27 AM

    Does JJ drive alone….or is his goat in the passenger seat?

  19. blackbeardk says: Jul 16, 2011 9:27 AM

    Here’s a tip Golden…if they are following you make a right hand turn they won’t understand it and you will lose them….

  20. jetsetfred says: Jul 16, 2011 9:33 AM

    Jimmie Johnson is more of a Great Athlete than Peyton Manning!

  21. nickster2k says: Jul 16, 2011 9:35 AM

    ===========================
    coleman121280 says:
    Jul 16, 2011 9:18 AM
    I hate this whole BS of trying to make NASCAR, WOMENS SOCCER, AND any womens sport in general important.
    ===========================

    I would tend to agree, except that the FIFA US Women’s World Cup games have been pretty exciting to watch. I could take that every 4 years.

    Plus it’s pretty cool watching the game and thinking about which players you’d want to bang. Probably how Flacco feels when he’s reading opposing defenses.

  22. buddrick7908 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:39 AM

    We all must be atheletes… hell we all drive…

    Nascar is as dumb and hick as the fans. Let’s all go drive in circles, damn window lickers.

  23. jw731 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:41 AM

    Someone should remind “Golden” that the top Nascar drivers will make more this year, than he will his entire NFL career……Now, tell me bitch, does it matter, if you consider them athletes…..All about getting paid right?

  24. friendlylittletrees says: Jul 16, 2011 9:43 AM

    They really do have children named Walker and Texas Ranger.

    NASCAR fans are what keep this country nice and dirty.

  25. krow101 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:43 AM

    They aren’t athletes. He was right. Rednecks don’t like hearing the truth. They get their panties in a bunch.

  26. jw731 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:55 AM

    Even the lowest of nascar drivers don’t break into donut shops in the middle of the night……I swear, stop thinking with your mouth…….IDIOT

  27. ny82jy says: Jul 16, 2011 9:56 AM

    Some of these comments about nascar are truely some of the most ignorant comments i have ever read on this site! Even if you dont like it why all the hate? Nascar is a american sport just like football is. Its been around since the 50′s and they have a huge loyal following and a ton of great history. Nobody should be trashing it, instead maybe some of you guys should educate yourselfs a little more like Tate did. People just have to talk s**t about everything and anything on this site. Nascar is great imo, its a big team sport which most people dont relize either and in what other sport do people show up on friday and not leave till sunday night. Thats every weekend, the fans are some of the most die hard in any sport. Last i read people call the drivers and fans rednecks or racists etc. You know what how many times do you hear about nascar drivers getting in trouble with the law. How many gunshots, dwi’s, rapes,arrests,domestic disputes etc do you hear about in nascar? None and you know why? Cause nascar drivers for one have brains and they have class too. Something that alot of nfl nba mlb players dont. Now i love the nfl and mlb dont get me wrong but im just sayin its true. People shouldnt be bashing nascar and the drivers the way they are.

  28. spartyfi says: Jul 16, 2011 9:57 AM

    Not many of you could go that fast for that long and avoid all the other cars. They may not have the athleticism but they have the reactions and instincts and skill to rival all other athletes.

    But it is boring!!!

  29. packerzman says: Jul 16, 2011 10:02 AM

    in what other “sport” would a 50 year old competitor (mark martin) still be competitive…and the next fledgling star to the “sport”that everyone is SO EXCITED about coming full time be a WOMAN…in NO OTHER athletic endevour would this be a plausible scenario. The drivers of NASCAR have a very unique gift to drive a racecar but the argument that it makes them great athletes is laughable and ignorant.

  30. xxxviichamps says: Jul 16, 2011 10:03 AM

    Half of you jackasses cant keep it between the lines on the interstate…Give credit where credit is due. Driving 175+ mph for 500 miles with a car one foot in front of you….and one about three feet away to each side…sounds like one of the most stressful ways a person could possibly spend three hours.

  31. chadmurdigan says: Jul 16, 2011 10:04 AM

    Driving a car 180 MPH and occasionally getting tapped on the ass by Junior trying to pass isn’t nearly as athletic as getting hit in the chops by James Harrison going 60 MPH.

  32. dboysfan94 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:07 AM

    Denny Hamlin will take Tate in any neutral sport he wants it I hope Tate or one of these other ignorant writers fans or “athletes” would take him up on it I’d put a grand on Denny Hamlin!!

  33. yankees2009 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:07 AM

    stlrams1055 says: Jul 16, 2011 9:26 AM

    They are athletes…. They just sit in a chair for a few hundred miles and make left turns. It still takes a ton of skill to drive 200 MPH. If there was someone who could drive away from the law it would be a nascar driver. lol

    ———————–

    That first sentence is so contradictory it’s funny. It’s is not possible for them to be athletes if all they do is sit on their asses, make left-hand turns and sweat due to heat for 3-4 hours. It’s over nearly 100 degrees in my house right now and I’m sweating pretty damn good, does that make me an athlete? What if I sit in a sauna for a bit? No?

    Point is, this activity is physically exhausting due to the the heat, big whoop. It’s not because they are doing any athletic maneuvers (at all) to raise their body temperatures.

    So what if it takes a lot of skill? So does chess, poker, spelling, golf, competitive eating (the polar opposite of athletes).

    It also takes a lot of skill to do construction, ace a statistics course, pleasure a woman multiples times in one session, etc. Does that make someone and athlete? If so… I should turn pro!

    NASCAR drivers are not athletes, deal with it.

  34. lucky5934 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:13 AM

    Golden Tate did the smart thing in relenting…but i ultimately agree with him that Jimmy Johnson is ATHLETE enough to be considered for Male Athlete of the year. Johnson is a very skilled driver no doubt, but i would not consider him to be the same type of athlete as an NBA, MLB, NFL, or other professional sports. Nascar fans are passionate about their sport…almost to the point of being barely coherent enough to recognize being a successful nascar driver has more to do with being skilled than it does with having athletic ability.

  35. wtfchiefs says: Jul 16, 2011 10:13 AM

    Nascar Driver is to Athelete

    as

    O’Douls is to Beer

  36. balzosteel says: Jul 16, 2011 10:14 AM

    “If YOU don’t like NASCAR, why don’t you just get out of the good ol’ U.S. of A. *spits tobbacco in half-crushed Old Style can*…….BUUUUUDY!!!” – Typical NASCAR fan reaction to Tate’s comments

  37. steelers4385 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:18 AM

    I once saw the National Championship’s of Scrabble on ESPN….i would consider that more of a sport than NASCAR. Smelly, beer drinkn, yee hawing, marrying your sister hillbillys.

  38. dieselfan44 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:27 AM

    drivers great athletes…nah..can’t see it..I think being a great athlete involves more than moving your hands and feet no more than a few inches at any given time….pit crews different story…those guys must be in tip top shape and must be able to excel physically at what they do….(maybe except for the gasman)..If you have ever been to a race and seen a pit crew member close up and a driver close up, there is no question who the athlete is on the race team. Being able to drive great does not equal being great athletically.

  39. chris6523 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:28 AM

    I guess since I have Danica Patrick and Dale Earnhardt Jr. at the top of my most overrated athaletes (homage to Vince Duley) list, I’ve unwittingly acknowledged racecar drivers as athaletes.

    Never really looked up the definition of athlete, but I would have to say that most Nascar drivers aren’t going to put up great combine numbers.

  40. sdffa11 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:33 AM

    nascar and racing is NOT a sport. theyre using machines to do 95% of the work for them and the idiots who defend it as a sport are retards

  41. jw731 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:34 AM

    Hell…….i dunno…….I guess Golden “Donut stealing” Tate has reached the pinnacle of whatever profession he has chosen…..The fact he used Lefraud James as the best athlete is funny, i’m not a Nascar nut, but LeFraud is a loser, johnson has proven to be a winner…..

  42. peytonwantsaflag says: Jul 16, 2011 10:36 AM

    I definitely have a lot of respect for the drivers but, athletes? I don’t think so either. Are pilots athletes? What about hot air balloon racers? I don’t know, there’s a line somewhere and I think race car driver is still on the other side.

    As for the comment “I hate this whole BS of trying to make NASCAR, WOMENS SOCCER, AND any womens sport in general important.”

    Coleman, have you seen the number of people that go to a single NASCAR event? 130,000 plus, plus millions on tv. And I guess you aren’t paying attention to the news in regards to women’s soccer – huge right now. They ARE important, just not to you,

  43. peytonwantsaflag says: Jul 16, 2011 10:41 AM

    “Driving a car 180 MPH and occasionally getting tapped on the ass by Junior trying to pass isn’t nearly as athletic as getting hit in the chops by James Harrison going 60 MPH.”
    ————————————————-

    NEITHER of those are athletic though chad – AVOIDING getting hit by Harrison, that’s athletic.

  44. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 10:51 AM

    Remember when NASCAR was going to take over as the number one sport in America? How’d that work out for you?

    ——————————————————-

    It worked. NASCAR is the most popular spectator sport in the US. You’ll never see 180,000 fans at any football game. Races are broadcast to over 150 countries. I’m not a fan but it’s pretty silly to call it irrelevant or to try to downplay it’s popularity.

  45. halo81 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:51 AM

    The first time a NASCAR driver can beat the worst NBA player in a game of 21, run a 4.5 40-yard dash, hit a 90-MPH fastball 400 feet, skate around on ice with precision and pass a puck or even go six under par at Augusta … they can get pissed about not being called an athlete.

    They’re great drivers who undergo unbelievable physical stress during a race, but you’ve got to be kidding me.

    In fact, get me the most athletic NASCAR driver in the league. I’ll find a 14-year old that can out hoop them from my neighborhood with ease, 50 better high school football players within 10 miles and I have had two MLB 1st rounders from the area in the past two years out of high school as well.

    Piss off NASCAR.

    You’re awesome to your HUGE fan base and I’m sure they appreciate it, but in no way are your people athletes.

    I feel like I’m having the “Tiger Woods could play in the NBA/NFL” argument with my Father.

  46. nofunleague says: Jul 16, 2011 10:55 AM

    It’s nice to know that at 63, I am just a slow athlete. I can drive 500 miles but it takes me longer. As for do they get in trouble with the law, yes. Who was just stopped for doing 100 plus in his new sports car. And he will give away some tix to the next Neckcar event and get off. Athletes bunk. Skilled at what they do, and have good endurance. Yes. What’s all the fuss. Even the rednecks know they are rednecks.

  47. waynefontes says: Jul 16, 2011 10:57 AM

    NASCAR drivers aren’t athletes, neither are spelling bee contestants or golfers.

    It is funny that a guy named Golden is passing judgement on anyone or anything.

  48. jahbird says: Jul 16, 2011 10:57 AM

    NASCAR wishes it were a sport. Here’s how you tell; the fans were ready to give it up when the Winston (the cigarette people) had to withdraw their sponsorship.

    The real atheletes in NASCAR are the engineers who figure out how to get extra mileage out of a near empty gas tank and worn our tires, the mechnanics who perform those tweeks, and the pit crews who are required to beat personal bests and fastest times, and the vehicles themselves. After all that preparation, mathematics, and engineering, the driver is just an operator–a guy who pisses himself while doing laps in an oven.

  49. pftstory says: Jul 16, 2011 10:58 AM

    Golden Tate was correct they are not. But why is that an insult. It does not mean they dont excel at a skill set the average Joe does not have.

  50. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 11:00 AM

    Tate said that when he tweeted that NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson doesn’t deserve to be considered a great athlete, it was just an instant reaction and not intended to be an insult.

    ————————————————————

    Tate didn’t say that Johnson wasn’t a “great athlete”. He said “Jimmy johnson up for best athlete???? Um nooo .. Driving a car does not show athleticism”

    And yes, goobers… it’s spelled “athlete”. Not “athelete” or “athalete”, like PS 48 would have you believe.

  51. xxxviichamps says: Jul 16, 2011 11:01 AM

    Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary:

    Athlete – a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or STAMINA.

    When one of you publishes a legitimate dictionary, your opinion on this subject will matter…until then, you’re wrong and mostly ignorant.

    And lets not forget you dont have to look like a professional weightlifter to be an “athlete”…how “athletic” do you think somebody like Randy Johnson or Yao Ming are? They are two of the most awkward people you will ever see…yet they participate in a professional sport, thus making them athletes.

  52. peanutbutter&jelly says: Jul 16, 2011 11:03 AM

    driving a car at speeds up to and over 200 mph in a group of other drivers doing the same thing for hours and at temps (in the car) that hit 100 plus sounds pretty challenging to me especially when you factor in that the slightest wrong move could cost you your life in an instant. i believe that most posters here are right even tho they have different opinions some say it’s a sport and some say it’s stupid some say it’s boring and imo you are all right in your own way.example-baseball is a sport and can be very boring at times,football is a sport and watching players give up thier bodies and seriously hurt themselfs over a ball seems stupid so if you think about it nascar has those same qualities so in fairness i think it should be called a sport.now i have a funnier sport for you-darts, i play darts in both in league and in tournaments and even i laugh when people call it a sport it is a challenge but a sport even imo- no way

  53. xxxviichamps says: Jul 16, 2011 11:04 AM

    “nascar and racing is NOT a sport. theyre using machines to do 95% of the work for them and the idiots who defend it as a sport are retards”

    EVERY CAR HAS THE SAME DAMN ENGINE IN IT! I bet if you just sat in a professional stock car and turned the key and put your foot on the gas, you wouldnt be competitive in very many races.

  54. snixxx says: Jul 16, 2011 11:07 AM

    NASCAR people are people too and should not be discriminated against based on lack of intelligence or teeth!

  55. snnyjcbs says: Jul 16, 2011 11:12 AM

    I guess that Jimmy Johnson was picked as the most important figure in sports over the great Brady or Manning lol really gets to these folks.

    Here is another little Heads up, Soccer all across the World is the Sport that has the Athletes. The World laughs at your game of Football and your arrogance to think it is the end all to the World.

    There was a Book out “The Ugly American” years ago. The Author has wrote another called “The Stupid American” When down comes to dirty and the s__ hits the fan I will take the NASCAR crowd in a Heart Beat over the Pot Bellied Face Painters lol.

  56. crumpledstiltskin says: Jul 16, 2011 11:13 AM

    So are fighter pilots great athletes, then? Their body undergoes more stress than NASCAR drivers enduring about 6 times the G-forces drivers do.

  57. imjinbrdgr says: Jul 16, 2011 11:14 AM

    NASCAR drivers do have a very high skill level but what would happen if they ever had to make a right turn?

  58. jw731 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:17 AM

    When Jimmy Johnson, whom i’
    m not a fan of, leaves the track after a race, he take? a helicopter ride to his private jet, can you say the same Golden?….Doesn’t matter what you think, i doubt he ever heard your name before you became an attention espy’s twitter troll….how about a GOLDEN rule, don’t mock a man who could wipe his ass with the money you make……….sound fair?

  59. schmitty2 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:17 AM

    These athletes needs to quit “retracting” their statements. Whether what they say is ignorant or not..be a man and own up to your beliefs

  60. kalispellmt says: Jul 16, 2011 11:18 AM

    Not athletes. Good drivers. You’re pride has been hurt. Get the hell over it, you’re just making it worse.

  61. marcus158 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:22 AM

    Watching NASCAR is like throwing a packet of M&M’s into the toilet and flushing it.

    Round and round and round and round we go…

    That said, I do think it takes a level of athleticism to be able to drive in 100 degree heat for 4 hours whilst maintaining a 175 mps speed and making sure that someone doesn’t try to rear end you.

    If it was as easy as most people seem to think, we’d all be NASCAR drivers.

  62. snnyjcbs says: Jul 16, 2011 11:26 AM

    Red 27, Red 27, hut hut lol. We are going to War men lol a bunch. Your sport is LAUGHED at around the World while Auto Racing is a Sport all over the World. And America wonders why it is becoming a second rate Nation, take a good look at the youth they have been raising, hut, hut lol a bunch.

  63. snnyjcbs says: Jul 16, 2011 11:30 AM

    Hey jw the Troll nice try, your grammer has inner City all over it.

  64. kirschmania says: Jul 16, 2011 11:31 AM

    selfsame and coleman – professional football is the only sport in the United States to hold more television viewers than NASCAR. Just because you don’t watch it doesn’t mean nobody else does.

  65. joesphkerr says: Jul 16, 2011 11:32 AM

    Nice to see that you used your athletic skills to steal doughnuts Golden.

  66. kalispellmt says: Jul 16, 2011 11:38 AM

    ***your pride has been hurt. Help, I’m turning into one of them!

  67. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 11:39 AM

    It’s nice to know that at 63, I am just a slow athlete. I can drive 500 miles but it takes me longer.

    ————————————————————

    Do you drive competitively? No? Then STFU.

  68. krow101 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:42 AM

    “If it was as easy as most people seem to think, we’d all be NASCAR drivers.”

    Nope. You have to be rich … or your daddy had to have been famous.

  69. jbcommonsense says: Jul 16, 2011 11:43 AM

    It’s bad enough that hours and hours of that boring NASCAR crap gets on TV at all. I don’t really care if they are athletes or not. NASCAR makes golf look exciting….

  70. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 11:45 AM

    You know what? Anybody can play football. Even chicks, there are powderpuff leagues everywhere. Not many women can race cars competitively.

  71. alexb64 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:54 AM

    If Tate is wrong why do NASCAR fans & drivers get so defensive about it then? Sounds to me like it hits pretty close to home & they feel insecure about it so they hope insults & harassment can make the statements go away.

  72. moezilla says: Jul 16, 2011 11:54 AM

    The fact of the matter is this. No one posting on this blog has ever played a game in the NFL, or driven 500 miles around Daytona.

    Does the fact that I started on the varsity football team in high school give me the right to bash on NASCAR drivers?

    Does the fact that I’ve driven a few fast cars give me the right to compare myself to Adrian Peterson?

    No, it doesn’t! Accept what you are, just a fan. You have no idea what it takes to compete at the highest level in either one of these SPORTS!

  73. grantgoodman93 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:56 AM

    Nascar fans have twitter?!? I didn’t know there was internet connection in the Louisiana bayou

  74. lostsok says: Jul 16, 2011 11:58 AM

    NASCAR is about as relevant as a “sport” as rodeo or a renascence fair. It’s a celebration of a previous age now. (Rodeo is no less cruel to animals than what Michael Vick did, by the way.)

    As to the ‘necks who would care about whether this is a sport or not…they probably count bowling and lawn darts. Who CARES what Bubba thinks?

  75. pencilfart says: Jul 16, 2011 12:03 PM

    Watching nascar makes my eyes bleed.

  76. democratsarestupid says: Jul 16, 2011 12:10 PM

    Give the man credit for taking the time to learn about NASCAR and then follow up with an educated comment. Way to go Golden Tate

  77. yajas says: Jul 16, 2011 12:16 PM

    If Nascar is a sport based on the fact that it’s a competition, is difficult, and requires some sort of body movement over an extended period of time, then so is video gaming, playing chess, and cheerleading.

    And if you find a way to compete against your neighbor or coworker, then go ahead and include landscaping, pogo-sticking, juggling, computer programming, drywalling, and pleasuring your wife.

    So yipeeee! We’re all athletes!

  78. keeponhating says: Jul 16, 2011 12:31 PM

    @snnyjcbs
    so because the rest of the world is lame and likes soccer americans should follow suit? how about we adopt the rest of the worlds socialist political systems too? and for no other reason than its the most popular. how about this soccer fans can keep watching their BORING sport and keep telling themselves is more athletic than american football oh and stay off our football blogs

  79. elleclouds says: Jul 16, 2011 12:32 PM

    These drivers are not athletes. There I said it. If you’ve ever been in a NASCAR, you’d know their cars are engineered to operate at fast speeds and to grip the track they’re on. Nothing like the cars the population drives on daily basis that fall apart if you get over 80 mph. I support the notion that the average good driver can get in a NASCAR and compete (maybe not win),but compete.

  80. stonedwhitetrash says: Jul 16, 2011 12:36 PM

    NASCAR has become just another scripted reality show most of it.s fans are the same sister loving rednecks and their sisters that will fight you if you dare say the WWE is scripted. However JJ and some of those boy drivers are cute.

  81. philyeagles5 says: Jul 16, 2011 12:44 PM

    “I was watching ESPN interview jockey’s last fall and all I could say is “really?….really?……..really?”
    —————————-
    horse racing is more popular than you think.

  82. 3ghostninja says: Jul 16, 2011 12:46 PM

    Tate shouldn’t mess with NASCAR fans. Because there’s nothing more dangerous than a pissed off redneck!

  83. packerswambulance says: Jul 16, 2011 12:47 PM

    Get in a NASCAR racecar and go that fast, with just a tiny bit of control, and most people pee about 3 liters worth, and poop about 1 fluid gallon. They’re athletes. That said, NASCAR still sucks…

  84. frank booth says: Jul 16, 2011 12:59 PM

    Football- finally tuned athletes

    NASCAR- finely tuned cars

    Football players are dependent upon their physical abilities.

    Race Car Drivers are dependent on their vehicles. If their vehicle is sub-standard, it doesn’t matter what their ability is.

  85. 3ghostninja says: Jul 16, 2011 1:04 PM

    175 mps?!?!?!? That’s freaking fast!!!! That’s 630,000 mph!!!

  86. truwarier90 says: Jul 16, 2011 1:14 PM

    I wanna hear James Harrison’s reaction towards Nascar, and see how those hillbillies react.

  87. hatesycophants says: Jul 16, 2011 1:26 PM

    I agree with the packerzman…. and it’s painfulllll! I just bury it deep down inside, that’s all.

  88. deadmanwalking47 says: Jul 16, 2011 1:31 PM

    it’s not easy being a nascar driver,and they are’nt just rednecks out on a sunday drive,but they are not atheletes either! they may be atheltic men driving race cars,but nascar is not really a sport in which one has to be athelitic to play!

  89. yankees2009 says: Jul 16, 2011 1:52 PM

    Anyone who thinks NASCAR is easy, is a moron.

    Anyone who calls NASCAR drivers “athletes”, is a moron.

    But the main point is: NASCAR drivers are not athletes (how much money they make is probably the weakest argument you could make). Golden Tate was right with what he first said. Move on

  90. schoolyardblitz says: Jul 16, 2011 2:44 PM

    I used to think the way deadman and yankees are talking. But after going a few times and really watching, I appreciate it a lot more.

    Whether you call it a sport or not, NASCAR draws more people to its live events than any other sport/event in this sports-mad country, and its roots are in our heritage. So WTF? Why the hate? Biggest spectator event in US every single year: Indy 500. Not NASCAR, but it’s racing. I personally prefer NASCAR over open wheel, and I am a passionate football and hockey fan. So I consider it a sport.

    Answer this: Do you really think, even with training, that you could EVER have the skill and balls to drive 200 mph while 6 inches from someone’s bumper, or with someone behind you? And throw in more contact in those vehicles than you will ever see in a baseball, basketball or soccer game. C’mon…even if you don’t personally like it, you haveto admit that’s a skill like baseball or golf. And I’m not knocking those sports…like NASCAR they require specific skills and balls/nerves of steel. But they don’t have to perform those skills while putting their body/health on the line at 200 mph.

    Go Dale, Tony, Carl, Jeff, Jimmie, Keslowski! (not so much the Busch bros!) :-)

  91. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 16, 2011 2:57 PM

    The only way you can disrespect a NASCAR fan is by hitting on his sister while they’re in the middle of a date.

  92. skoalbrother says: Jul 16, 2011 3:06 PM

    Is golf a sport? How about baseball? We have all seen the fat holders and baseball players. John Kruk even admitted it to a fan who was chastising him about smoking cigarettes. John said “maam I am not an athlete I’m a baseball player”. What is the criteria for what is or isn’t a sport.

  93. osnap305 says: Jul 16, 2011 3:07 PM

    Jesus, people. Makes me wonder how mad you would be if Tiger Woods won.

    “Pfffttt…anyone can hit a ball into a hole…I DO IT ALL THE TIME IN MINIATURE GOLF!!!!11!”

    I can’t believe the sheer ignorance of some of these comments.

  94. schoolyardblitz says: Jul 16, 2011 3:14 PM

    To Halo and all the other haters: By your misguided logic, the NFL is not a sport because George Blanda played when he was 48, and won AP Athlete of the year at age 43. And you can say the same about NHL (Gordie Howe) and MLB (Minny Minoso and 100 others).

    Here’s the tiebreaker: two years ago, Jimmie Johnson was named AP ATHLETE of the year. That’s right, Athlete. Same award that’s been won by Stan Musial, Bradshaw, Brees, Orr.

    And Jackie Stewart won the SI Sportsman of the Year award. So I guess you all know way more about this than the people who cover SPORTS.

    jackasses. Let’s see if anyone has the brains to counter that.

  95. titan40 says: Jul 16, 2011 3:48 PM

    I wanna be a NASCAR driver, but I’m too smart and rich to. I’m gonna dip Vagisil and sell all my stuff and be reals stupid so I can drive fayst. I wanna go fayst!

  96. fresh2deafbill says: Jul 16, 2011 4:22 PM

    you know I couldn’t agree more with tate. those guys are not athletes…they drive a car and occasionally turn left…anybody with a functioning brain could do that

  97. indianheadmeatpackingcompany says: Jul 16, 2011 5:01 PM

    How is sitting in a stationary position for hours make you an athlete? Nascar drivers are NOT in any possible way athletes.

  98. billsfan27 says: Jul 16, 2011 5:25 PM

    Golden Tate is full of crap. He played his high school ball in Nashville and anyone who’s ever been there – and lived there – knows how big NASCAR is down there.

    That’s like saying he grew up there but doesn’t know what country music sounds like.

  99. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 5:34 PM

    Football- finally tuned athletes

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    Remember that the next time you see a 360 pound tub of lard that can’t run the 40 in under 6 seconds and realize that he’s wearing a football uniform.

  100. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 5:35 PM

    These drivers are not athletes. There I said it. If you’ve ever been in a NASCAR, you’d know their cars are engineered to operate at fast speeds and to grip the track they’re on. Nothing like the cars the population drives on daily basis that fall apart if you get over 80 mph. I support the notion that the average good driver can get in a NASCAR and compete (maybe not win),but compete.

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    So what’s stopping you? Don’t you consider yourself an average good driver?

  101. burntorangehorn says: Jul 16, 2011 5:39 PM

    Agree with yankees2009. Driving in NASCAR may not be easy, but just because something is difficult does not make people who are good at it athletes.

    Golden Tate should stand by what he said. I do.

  102. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 5:47 PM

    You know what? Anybody can play football. Even chicks, there are powderpuff leagues everywhere. Not many women can race cars competitively.

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    It’s true. Look around you. There’s a PeeWee league near every one of you. Little kids playing football.

  103. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 5:50 PM

    NASCAR has become just another scripted reality show most of it.s fans are the same sister loving rednecks and their sisters that will fight you if you dare say the WWE is scripted.

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    The WWE is headquartered in Connecticut for a reason.

  104. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 5:55 PM

    NASCAR is about as relevant as a “sport” as rodeo or a renascence fair. It’s a celebration of a previous age now. (Rodeo is no less cruel to animals than what Michael Vick did, by the way.)

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    Remember that the next time you eat a cheeseburger.

  105. goforthanddie says: Jul 16, 2011 5:56 PM

    BFD. Get an angry mob of NASCAR fans chasing you down the street. One right turn, you lose them all.

  106. burntorangehorn says: Jul 16, 2011 5:59 PM

    Performance capacities are what determine whether something is a sport, and whether people participating in it are athletes. Professional drivers are not the limiting factors in racing; their cars are. Real athletes’ own bodies are the limiting factors in their sports.

    Also, driving fast doesn’t make one an athlete. These guys have a skillset that allows them to react quickly, but that’s the only thing that sets them apart. There’s no workout regimen for drivers. There’s no injury report for NASCAR. Professional drivers don’t have nutritionists and trainers working with them to maximize their physical performance. There’s never been a NASCAR driver who has missed a race because he pulled a muscle. While a swimmer who wears the type of wetsuit most of the top swimmers in the Beijing Olympics wore certainly receives some resulting benefit, a NASCAR driver’s improvement in performance is based almost exclusively on improvements to his vehicle, not work he puts into his body or playbook.

    I don’t like NASCAR, but even if I did, I’d think it pretty obvious that drivers aren’t athletes by virtue of being drivers. That doesn’t mean that a driver couldn’t be extremely athletic, or even compete in a sport like baseball or football, but that’s not the norm at all.

  107. melonnhead says: Jul 16, 2011 6:02 PM

    The first time a NASCAR driver can beat the worst NBA player in a game of 21, run a 4.5 40-yard dash, hit a 90-MPH fastball 400 feet, skate around on ice with precision and pass a puck or even go six under par at Augusta … they can get pissed about not being called an athlete.

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    Do you think Roethlisberger can do all that? No, he can’t. He ran a 4.75 at the combines. Therefore, using your logic, he’s not an “athlete”.

  108. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 16, 2011 6:15 PM

    NASCAR is a sport the same way Chess is.

    You point out that it’s not a sport, a bunch of nerds get their panties all in a bunch and don’t shut up until you finally say “Fine, it’s a sport. Settle down spaz.”

  109. tman50595 says: Jul 16, 2011 6:19 PM

    I’m a great go cart driver, does that make me an athlete? I don’t think so!

  110. whoisgonnasing says: Jul 16, 2011 6:24 PM

    @burn,

    You have a right to your own opinion but not to your own facts. Of course all pro drivers have a workout regimen. You’ve shown your ignorance here. I’m not trying to convert you to motorsports but please, read up a little before taking shots.

    I may enter a pro race next season, and I can tell you, my daily workout regimen is already pretty demanding.

    You’re dead wrong. Which is strange considering that this topic has been covered pretty well in forums ranging from ESPN to the Wall St Journal, who ran a long article on a drivers at home and travel routine as well as his diet.

    More curiosity. Less judgment.

  111. 4512dawg4512 says: Jul 16, 2011 6:46 PM

    I’ve run 40′s and run routes, caught balls. I know what it takes to be a WR. I’ve never held a car at 200 mph for 3 1/2 hours all while trying to protect a lead. So until I know what thats like I’m not saying a word

  112. browndp says: Jul 16, 2011 7:00 PM

    Sorry to say that any sport in which women are equal to men in athleticism, in not an athletic sport. NASCAR drivers are not athletes, they are highly skilled drivers.

  113. getweird4u says: Jul 16, 2011 7:03 PM

    First off…I am not a nascar fan but all you basement dwellers need to get a clue.I.E. if every nascar fan is a redneck or a racist that must mean that all nba fans sell crack and live in the ghetto right?

  114. mmmpierogi says: Jul 16, 2011 7:15 PM

    Whoa, wait — NASCAR still exists?

  115. psychoraider904 says: Jul 16, 2011 7:50 PM

    They may not be athletic, so to speak. But I’d like to see Tate try to drive 200 mph for 3 or 4 hours. I read that nascar drivers can lose any where from 3 to 12% of there body weight during a race due to the fact it gets so hot in the car during the race.

    I hate to say it, but if nascar wasn’t a sport filled with nothing but white guys he would have never made that comment. It’s sad to see how after all this time all we can focus on it skin color.

    Maybe Tate should keep his mouth shut, atleast untill he accomplishes something.

  116. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 16, 2011 8:28 PM

    “psychoraider904 says: Jul 16, 2011 7:50 PM
    They may not be athletic, so to speak. But I’d like to see Tate try to drive 200 mph for 3 or 4 hours. I read that nascar drivers can lose any where from 3 to 12% of there body weight during a race due to the fact it gets so hot in the car during the race.”

    So….welding is an athletic endeavor as well?

    “I hate to say it, but if nascar wasn’t a sport filled with nothing but white guys he would have never made that comment. It’s sad to see how after all this time all we can focus on it skin color. ”

    Umm….did you just make this a racial issue, and then say how sad it is that it’s a racial issue?

    I’m white and don’t consider NASCAR drivers athletes anymore than I consider someone who plays video games an athlete…..where’s the difference? Sit in one stop and tax on specific muscles in the arms and hands.

  117. 3ghostninja says: Jul 16, 2011 8:34 PM

    But they don’t drive 200 mph for 3 or 4 hours. At that speed. the race would only take 2 to 2 1/2 hours. 3 for that one on Memorial Day weekend.
    No, they spend at least an hour per race under caution. That fact diminishes the athleticism more than it already is.

  118. frank booth says: Jul 16, 2011 9:01 PM

    schoolyardblitz says:
    Jul 16, 2011 3:14 PM
    To Halo and all the other haters: By your misguided logic, the NFL is not a sport because George Blanda played when he was 48, and won AP Athlete of the year at age 43. And you can say the same about NHL (Gordie Howe) and MLB (Minny Minoso and 100 others).

    Here’s the tiebreaker: two years ago, Jimmie Johnson was named AP ATHLETE of the year. That’s right, Athlete. Same award that’s been won by Stan Musial, Bradshaw, Brees, Orr.

    And Jackie Stewart won the SI Sportsman of the Year award. So I guess you all know way more about this than the people who cover SPORTS.

    jackasses. Let’s see if anyone has the brains to counter that.

    ===================================

    As far as Jimmie Johnson’s AP Athlete of the Year award, the AP doesn’t list their criteria for the award, but it makes about as much sense as Jethro Tull winning a Grammy Award over Metallica for “Best Hard Rock Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental” in 1989. Simply winning the AP Athlete of the Year award no more makes Johnson a great athlete than winning a Grammy makes Jethro Tull a heavy metal band.

    As for Jackie Stewart’s SI Sportsman of the Year award, here are a few other winners:

    Pete Rozelle, NFL Commissioner
    John Wooden, UCLA basketball coach
    Steve Cauthen, Jockey
    Joe Paterno, college football coach

  119. lucky5934 says: Jul 16, 2011 10:27 PM

    just drove home from Washington DC tonight. made it in my fastest time ever. I was able to navigate through stop and go highway traffic while passing three cops, four road ragers, and 68 women drivers. That alone could win me an espy, but it doesnt mean I am an athlete.

  120. dodgeman01 says: Jul 16, 2011 11:39 PM

    as a fan of both sports i must say i find some of the coments fascinating, if the elitist out there can call nascar competitors rednecks can we then call football players jigaboos, hicks=porchmonkeys
    inbred=rapists
    beer guzzlers=watermelon munchers
    mulletheads=big lipped bastards
    just asking? if it’s ok to us slurs against one particular group of americans than it should be ok to use slurs against every group of americans

  121. westonsa21 says: Jul 17, 2011 1:17 AM

    Ah, ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. Okay. Where to begin.

    Honestly. Get a clue, guys. If you think you’re so good at anything, go for it. I hope Golden takes up JJ’s offer for a go. I bet half of these jackasses would drop out after 50 laps. You have to be fearless to drop into a turn at well over 170 MPH (Talking 190+ guys) with a guy a foot from your front end and the guy outside of you trying to take that position PLUS be aware of the guy behind you that’s trying to slip through to the inside. Sound confusing? It is.

    NASCAR drivers are athletes as much as golfers. Also to the guy that commented about Mark Martin’s age? The guy has the body of a 30 year old. He’s fit and really strong. I’m a racer myself, he knows my dad and I got invited to go run with them both. (My father works for a company that sells high performance coatings). Anyway, Mark our ran us both and I’m pretty well in shape.

    Just being blunt. Athletes are humans who have skills beyond those of the average person. The ability to drive nearly 200 miles per hour while getting bumped on all sides plus having to fight the draft from the guy in front of you requires some level of athleticism. Just so happens theirs requires a higher thinking ability. Being a golfer requires sharp eyes to see how to line up the shot perfectly. Honestly all sports require some form of strength, speed, reactions, balance. etcetc. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t give you the automatic right to bash it. I like all sports to some extent. Okay, except basketball. I just find it boring and overhyped.

  122. jjbadd says: Jul 17, 2011 10:54 AM

    I’m from a small “hicktown” in SC, and I would be one of the 1st to tell you that NASCAR has gone too commercial, too political, & it is not what it once was! I used to love it until they started implimenting all of the crappy rules they have now! If you weren’t fortunate enough to see NASCAR IN the early to mid 80′s, then you probably won’t like it. It does take endurance though.

  123. bcgreg says: Jul 17, 2011 10:56 AM

    To all of you people DEFENDING NASCAR. Understand that Tate still did not call them athletes. He said he researched NASCAR and has a new found respect for what they do.

    I am no NASCAR fan, but I respect what they do. For all on here who say it’s easy, it’s not easy to be a NASCAR driver. It’s hard. It’s dangerous. BUT! That doesn’t make them athletes. They are not athletes. Just because there is competition and sponsers and they get paid doesn’t mean it’s a sport either. There’s competition, sponsers, and salaries in poker and darts, and those aren’t sports, and the participants aren’t athletes either.

    I will say this about NASCAR. To quote George Carlin (rest his soul), where else can you see a 20 car pile up and not be in it?!? Carlin had a great routine about what is a sport versus what is an ‘activity’. Quite funny. FYI, race car driving fell under the ‘activity’ category.

    This is just one of those issues where you won’t convince someone on the other side of the fence. Just the way it is. To NASCAR defenders, just because I don’t think it’s a sport or that the drivers are true athletes doesn’t mean I don’t respect what they do or respect the fact that you disagree with me. There’s no ‘hatred’ from here.

  124. craigblanchard says: Jul 17, 2011 12:11 PM

    If Golden Tate and any race car driver (F1, Indy or Nascar) were to have a 10 K foot race, I’d easily put my $ on the driver to win & I’d include Danica Patrick in that too.

    Most people don’t understand what kind of cardio is needed to be able to function at high sustained G-Forces for hours at a time.

  125. packerzman says: Jul 17, 2011 12:59 PM

    melonnhead says:Jul 16, 2011 5:47 PM

    You know what? Anybody can play football. Even chicks, there are powderpuff leagues everywhere. Not many women can race cars competitively. true. Look around you. There’s a PeeWee league near every one of you. Little kids playing football.

    yah…by that logic my son driving his big wheel down the driveway can be a racecar driver..you freakin tools quit showing your ignorance

    also…to the people who say nascar is americas #1 sport because they “draw 150,000 people to every event” here are some things you might want to think about..on any given sunday across the united states there are between 12 and 16 NFL games going on with an average attendance of 80,000 people..so by my math (insert redneck joke here if you so wish) there are over 1 million fans attending games every sunday..just imagine for a minute how many fans the NFL would draw if like nascar they played 1 game a week in 1 stadium..and before you respond think long and hard about all the things todd helton has done for the last 5 years to try and stop the bleeding about declining attendance at most of the tracks and even more importantly worsening TV ratings..something the NFL hasnt had to worry about.After Dale Sr. was killed nascars ratings spiked through the roof for about 5 years and have been in decline ever since…partly because Dale Jr has been a huge disappointment and hasnt won a race in 2+ years. The argument of whether drivers are athletes can continue (and there have been some on both sides that have made me laugh out loud) but the argument that nascar is “americas favorite and most popular sport” is both naive and ignorant.

  126. packerzman says: Jul 17, 2011 1:22 PM

    and yes nascar nation…i do know what im talking about…im the demographic of racing fan and sports fans that have left your sport in droves because of a number of things including increased commercialization (7 minutes of racing followed by 5 minutes of commercials) and the increased number of BORING cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks where racing IS like putting M&Ms in a toilet and flushing…round and round they go and most of the excitement in a 4 hour race is in the pits or with 10 laps to go when they actually start to race on the track and cant stop crashing into one another. Todd Helton can try all he wants (the ever changing chase..wild cards..the car of tomorrow…the car of today…restrictor plates or not..god forbid the most over rated driver in ALL of motorsports Danica Patrick..) but until he finds a way to increase TV ratings and also fill those empty seats at most tracks disguised as fans Nascar will continue to struggle finding its niche in American sports landscape.

  127. flashlight113 says: Jul 17, 2011 5:16 PM

    melonnhead:
    “Remember that the next time you see a 360 pound tub of lard that can’t run the 40 in under 6 seconds and realize that he’s wearing a football uniform.”

    Actually, there’s someone named Herman Johnson. He’s 6’7″, 360 lbs and he ran his 40 in 5.40 seconds. He’s probably faster than you judging you’re not a true athlete.

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