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	<title>Comments on: Peyton Manning and Drew Brees request settlement terms</title>
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		<title>By: breeshasabush</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1134304</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I hesitate to even dignify the false media reports with a response, but obviously they are leading people astray. I want no special perks. My job is to get a fair deal for all players, and I am proud to represent them all - past, present and future. All media claims about me wanting a personal reward for this deal are false. I hope you all know me better than that.&quot; - Drew Brees]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hesitate to even dignify the false media reports with a response, but obviously they are leading people astray. I want no special perks. My job is to get a fair deal for all players, and I am proud to represent them all &#8211; past, present and future. All media claims about me wanting a personal reward for this deal are false. I hope you all know me better than that.&#8221; &#8211; Drew Brees</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1134283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Breeshasabush-INDEED...we are getting punchy! I too appreciate your reasonable debate. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breeshasabush-INDEED&#8230;we are getting punchy! I too appreciate your reasonable debate. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: breeshasabush</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1134218</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear ya but I think we can both agree that its a different league today and the Franchise tag isn&#039;t looked upon as it was now as it was during that time. I remember my father talking about making this guy and that guy a franchise player and it was a good thing.... definitely not the case here. Something we can all agree on is we need football because no matter how any of our views differ, the one thing we all have in common is we have love for football and we want it back... in the end it is us who have suffered the most. Glad to debate with you CKL, nice to see someone who isn&#039;t completely dellusional and narrow minded. Refreshing! TIME FOR FOOTBALL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya but I think we can both agree that its a different league today and the Franchise tag isn&#8217;t looked upon as it was now as it was during that time. I remember my father talking about making this guy and that guy a franchise player and it was a good thing&#8230;. definitely not the case here. Something we can all agree on is we need football because no matter how any of our views differ, the one thing we all have in common is we have love for football and we want it back&#8230; in the end it is us who have suffered the most. Glad to debate with you CKL, nice to see someone who isn&#8217;t completely dellusional and narrow minded. Refreshing! TIME FOR FOOTBALL!</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1133642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Breeshasabush-
I see your point, and it has logic  but I believe that Reggie White and those other guys who got the exemption from the FT for their part in the 87 negotiations did not result in other players getting that same exemption or being able to argue that they should because those other guys did. Now maybe I don&#039;t know that much about that situation, but that&#039;s how it looks to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breeshasabush-<br />
I see your point, and it has logic  but I believe that Reggie White and those other guys who got the exemption from the FT for their part in the 87 negotiations did not result in other players getting that same exemption or being able to argue that they should because those other guys did. Now maybe I don&#8217;t know that much about that situation, but that&#8217;s how it looks to me.</p>
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		<title>By: breeshasabush</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1133417</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeshasabush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CKL

If he were to be &quot;exempt&quot; from the rule (which he didnt ask for) then it would inevitably change the rule. There&#039;s no way 1 or two players can be exempt from a rule, I know that, you know that, don&#039;t you think the rest of the NFL knows it? Anyway, the real question is do you REALLY think Manning or Brees is going to get franchise tagged? No, they won&#039;t and their respective teams had no intention of doing so. So if there was a move made by Manning or Brees regarding the franchise tag then rest assured that it had to do with all the players, not just themselves bc it really doesnt apply to them. 

 bearsandjazz

So what you&#039;re telling me is that in the &quot;LAWSUIT&quot; it actually says &quot;Drew Brees is greedy&quot;. Listen up sport, if you&#039;re going to try to call me out or bring an argument to me then be educated about it. First off, that lawsuit you&#039;re referring to is TOM BRADY vs the NFL and Manning and Brees are the only other two plantiffs who have released their names publicly, so its very likely that one of the other 10 could be your most beloved home team player. Second off, THE LEAGUE has come out and said that Manning and Brees &quot;have not asked for anything individually&quot;. Soooo you must be an inside source that knows something that none of us know being that the league (with whom Brees has been on the opposite side of the negotiating table) has actually come out and said &quot;No, he nor Manning have asked for special treatment&quot;. You are the exact person I am talking about: the Nancy Grace, torch carrying, south park townsperson... you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about but you still manage to sputter out the dumbest thing that comes to your head... &quot;MR Bree&#039;s is greedy, he wants more than the other plantiffs... ITS IN THE LAWSUIT!&quot; Oh yeah, what page is it on in that copy of that paper work of the lawsuit that you have? As far as me being objective, please! I have bashed Brees for some of the things he&#039;s said that i didnt agree with, I dont like Manning or Brady but I certainly don&#039;t blame them for their part. The things I say are things that I have thought out and put reason and logic behind. I&#039;ll not respond to your next comment because without a doubt it will be similar if not worst than your last.... leave the educated debate to people like  CKL who can actually put together an intelligent thought and can debate like an educated adult.          &quot;ITS IN THE LAWSUIT&quot;...seriously!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CKL</p>
<p>If he were to be &#8220;exempt&#8221; from the rule (which he didnt ask for) then it would inevitably change the rule. There&#8217;s no way 1 or two players can be exempt from a rule, I know that, you know that, don&#8217;t you think the rest of the NFL knows it? Anyway, the real question is do you REALLY think Manning or Brees is going to get franchise tagged? No, they won&#8217;t and their respective teams had no intention of doing so. So if there was a move made by Manning or Brees regarding the franchise tag then rest assured that it had to do with all the players, not just themselves bc it really doesnt apply to them. </p>
<p> bearsandjazz</p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re telling me is that in the &#8220;LAWSUIT&#8221; it actually says &#8220;Drew Brees is greedy&#8221;. Listen up sport, if you&#8217;re going to try to call me out or bring an argument to me then be educated about it. First off, that lawsuit you&#8217;re referring to is TOM BRADY vs the NFL and Manning and Brees are the only other two plantiffs who have released their names publicly, so its very likely that one of the other 10 could be your most beloved home team player. Second off, THE LEAGUE has come out and said that Manning and Brees &#8220;have not asked for anything individually&#8221;. Soooo you must be an inside source that knows something that none of us know being that the league (with whom Brees has been on the opposite side of the negotiating table) has actually come out and said &#8220;No, he nor Manning have asked for special treatment&#8221;. You are the exact person I am talking about: the Nancy Grace, torch carrying, south park townsperson&#8230; you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about but you still manage to sputter out the dumbest thing that comes to your head&#8230; &#8220;MR Bree&#8217;s is greedy, he wants more than the other plantiffs&#8230; ITS IN THE LAWSUIT!&#8221; Oh yeah, what page is it on in that copy of that paper work of the lawsuit that you have? As far as me being objective, please! I have bashed Brees for some of the things he&#8217;s said that i didnt agree with, I dont like Manning or Brady but I certainly don&#8217;t blame them for their part. The things I say are things that I have thought out and put reason and logic behind. I&#8217;ll not respond to your next comment because without a doubt it will be similar if not worst than your last&#8230;. leave the educated debate to people like  CKL who can actually put together an intelligent thought and can debate like an educated adult.          &#8220;ITS IN THE LAWSUIT&#8221;&#8230;seriously!</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1132502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ tommyf15

I think 4 yrs FA is a good tradeoff for one year of a FT. Yes they have the length of the contract to negotiate a new deal but sometimes cap, getting a replacement up to speed, etc. can make it a little more complicated, and it will be moreso IMO with a 4 yr FA limit. Teams want to see multiple years of production before they pony up cash, and rightfully so.

@breeshasabush-
I haven&#039;t called DB names and despite the fact that I disagree with some of the things he has said during this whole mess, I have complimented him on here for sticking up for what he put his name behind. He&#039;s done good things for your  city and team but I can&#039;t forget how much he said about how grateful he was to the one team willing to pay what they did for him coming off injury. He doesn&#039;t &quot;owe&quot; your team anything beyond being a good citizen and playing well but it&#039;s still hard to see what exactly he wins for future players by asking for an exemption for himself (if this is true). Whether a guy is right or wrong I never see the good in making a public argument for special treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tommyf15</p>
<p>I think 4 yrs FA is a good tradeoff for one year of a FT. Yes they have the length of the contract to negotiate a new deal but sometimes cap, getting a replacement up to speed, etc. can make it a little more complicated, and it will be moreso IMO with a 4 yr FA limit. Teams want to see multiple years of production before they pony up cash, and rightfully so.</p>
<p>@breeshasabush-<br />
I haven&#8217;t called DB names and despite the fact that I disagree with some of the things he has said during this whole mess, I have complimented him on here for sticking up for what he put his name behind. He&#8217;s done good things for your  city and team but I can&#8217;t forget how much he said about how grateful he was to the one team willing to pay what they did for him coming off injury. He doesn&#8217;t &#8220;owe&#8221; your team anything beyond being a good citizen and playing well but it&#8217;s still hard to see what exactly he wins for future players by asking for an exemption for himself (if this is true). Whether a guy is right or wrong I never see the good in making a public argument for special treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: bearsandjazz</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1132458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bearsandjazz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[breeshasabush- Sounds like your a little to close to MR. Bree&#039;s to look at this objectively. No wonder he demands so much when he has reach around partners like you fighting his battles. Simple fact is he&#039;s greedy, plain and simple. This isnt an opinion or assumption....ITS IN THE LAWSUIT. He wants more than the rest of the players except the other plaintiffs mentioned in the lawsuit. THats Greed not off base accusations by the Loyal NFL fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>breeshasabush- Sounds like your a little to close to MR. Bree&#8217;s to look at this objectively. No wonder he demands so much when he has reach around partners like you fighting his battles. Simple fact is he&#8217;s greedy, plain and simple. This isnt an opinion or assumption&#8230;.ITS IN THE LAWSUIT. He wants more than the rest of the players except the other plaintiffs mentioned in the lawsuit. THats Greed not off base accusations by the Loyal NFL fans.</p>
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		<title>By: breeshasabush</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1132321</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeshasabush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CKL

The end justifies the means. If Brees and Manning get that exemption it will prove to the rest of the NFL that they can as well. Its not Brees&#039; job to do so for every single player in the NFL, eventhough he has been fighting for them for just about every other rule during the lockout and people call him &quot;Drew Greed&quot; for it, itsDe Smith&#039;s job. So whats wrong with Brees saying &quot;hey this is what I personally want&quot; and if he gets it then that opens the door for other players to step up for themselves and say &quot;Well Brees got it, so should I&quot;. I understand that fans are upset about the lockout and they just want football (so do I) but if you look at the entire course of this thing you will see how fans have been swayed in each different direction and how most of the people who are pulling a Nancy Grace on Drew Brees and Manning haven&#039;t taken a firm stand on this lockout or dont really know much about it. They follow the masses, kind of like the towns people on south park when something bad happens, constantly changing sides carrying torches to the players houses and then when the players explain it theymarch back to the owners houses with torches in hand, and back and fourth and back and fourth. they just want to blame someone rather than understand whats going on and realize that in this type of situation there&#039;s not one person to blame and both sides have points to their arguments.

To say Brees is Greedy, a hypocrite, selfish is just plain wrong. Brees from day one has taken a firm stand on what he believes and has done ALOT for every single player in the NFL. All of these rules that are being finalized, that are for the greater good of the players, is because people like Brees said &quot;No, we will not roll over and let the owners continue to be dictators&quot; and now with the lockout coming to an end the NFL looks like a better place for the players who matter. No more JaMarcus Russells coming in and robbing franchises blind having never proving themselves. The things that were done needed to be done, the owners cannot call all the shots when its the players who sell the product and Brees helped change that so I do not see your &quot;selfish&quot; point of view of Brees. Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CKL</p>
<p>The end justifies the means. If Brees and Manning get that exemption it will prove to the rest of the NFL that they can as well. Its not Brees&#8217; job to do so for every single player in the NFL, eventhough he has been fighting for them for just about every other rule during the lockout and people call him &#8220;Drew Greed&#8221; for it, itsDe Smith&#8217;s job. So whats wrong with Brees saying &#8220;hey this is what I personally want&#8221; and if he gets it then that opens the door for other players to step up for themselves and say &#8220;Well Brees got it, so should I&#8221;. I understand that fans are upset about the lockout and they just want football (so do I) but if you look at the entire course of this thing you will see how fans have been swayed in each different direction and how most of the people who are pulling a Nancy Grace on Drew Brees and Manning haven&#8217;t taken a firm stand on this lockout or dont really know much about it. They follow the masses, kind of like the towns people on south park when something bad happens, constantly changing sides carrying torches to the players houses and then when the players explain it theymarch back to the owners houses with torches in hand, and back and fourth and back and fourth. they just want to blame someone rather than understand whats going on and realize that in this type of situation there&#8217;s not one person to blame and both sides have points to their arguments.</p>
<p>To say Brees is Greedy, a hypocrite, selfish is just plain wrong. Brees from day one has taken a firm stand on what he believes and has done ALOT for every single player in the NFL. All of these rules that are being finalized, that are for the greater good of the players, is because people like Brees said &#8220;No, we will not roll over and let the owners continue to be dictators&#8221; and now with the lockout coming to an end the NFL looks like a better place for the players who matter. No more JaMarcus Russells coming in and robbing franchises blind having never proving themselves. The things that were done needed to be done, the owners cannot call all the shots when its the players who sell the product and Brees helped change that so I do not see your &#8220;selfish&#8221; point of view of Brees. Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: m2karateman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as players have a right to want to play elsewhere, teams have a right to have a mechanism to keep a player, if at least for a year, after their contract ends.  Many times teams do offer a lucrative contract to these players, but them, their agents or their &quot;posse&quot; convince them they&#039;re worth more when they rarely are.

These players are beginning to lose the battle in the court of public opinion.  Now, very close to a deal for the entire league being done, these individuals are showing that it&#039;s about themselves and not the &quot;solidarity&quot; of the NFLPA.  

De Smith needs to force these idiots to drop this anti-trust lawsuit and focus on the big picture and not the &quot;me&quot; picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as players have a right to want to play elsewhere, teams have a right to have a mechanism to keep a player, if at least for a year, after their contract ends.  Many times teams do offer a lucrative contract to these players, but them, their agents or their &#8220;posse&#8221; convince them they&#8217;re worth more when they rarely are.</p>
<p>These players are beginning to lose the battle in the court of public opinion.  Now, very close to a deal for the entire league being done, these individuals are showing that it&#8217;s about themselves and not the &#8220;solidarity&#8221; of the NFLPA.  </p>
<p>De Smith needs to force these idiots to drop this anti-trust lawsuit and focus on the big picture and not the &#8220;me&#8221; picture.</p>
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		<title>By: clayton43</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clayton43]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw Bree&#039;s... I had always liked him as a player, but I am not diggin him too much any more and sadly I cant see myself rooting for him anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Bree&#8217;s&#8230; I had always liked him as a player, but I am not diggin him too much any more and sadly I cant see myself rooting for him anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: tommyf15</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1132113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommyf15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@CKL

Good post and I&#039;m not trying to be argumentative, but IMO that still doesn&#039;t justify the franchise tag. The player and team have plenty of time to negotiate a long-term deal before the original contract expires. 

Everyone here is screaming that franchised players make &quot;enough&quot; money, but what if it&#039;s not a money issue? What if the player just wants to play somewhere else, even for less money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CKL</p>
<p>Good post and I&#8217;m not trying to be argumentative, but IMO that still doesn&#8217;t justify the franchise tag. The player and team have plenty of time to negotiate a long-term deal before the original contract expires. </p>
<p>Everyone here is screaming that franchised players make &#8220;enough&#8221; money, but what if it&#8217;s not a money issue? What if the player just wants to play somewhere else, even for less money?</p>
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		<title>By: jjrs89</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jjrs89]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forget these clowns and bring back favre!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget these clowns and bring back favre!</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1132048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@breeshasabush,
It&#039;s not greedy to me so much as SELFISH. I don&#039;t mind whatever they get paid if someone is willing to pay it WITHIN THE RULES. the point to me is  Brees et al are asking for exemptions ONLY for THEMSELVES and have done nothing extraordinary vis a vis the lawsuit to require such compensation. They are asking for a RULE EXEMPTION fr THEMSELVES ONLY...that&#039;s what bugs the ish out of me, not the money part.

@tommyf15 
I am not in favor of the FT as it has been. I am  in favor of it ONLY as a one time per the same player per the same team mechanism in order to negotiate a long term deal. So technically I am in favor of it but I think it stinks the way it&#039;s been abused by some teams. If FA is 4 years then a team can franchise a guy only 1ce before he gets to walk, I think that is fair to both parties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@breeshasabush,<br />
It&#8217;s not greedy to me so much as SELFISH. I don&#8217;t mind whatever they get paid if someone is willing to pay it WITHIN THE RULES. the point to me is  Brees et al are asking for exemptions ONLY for THEMSELVES and have done nothing extraordinary vis a vis the lawsuit to require such compensation. They are asking for a RULE EXEMPTION fr THEMSELVES ONLY&#8230;that&#8217;s what bugs the ish out of me, not the money part.</p>
<p>@tommyf15<br />
I am not in favor of the FT as it has been. I am  in favor of it ONLY as a one time per the same player per the same team mechanism in order to negotiate a long term deal. So technically I am in favor of it but I think it stinks the way it&#8217;s been abused by some teams. If FA is 4 years then a team can franchise a guy only 1ce before he gets to walk, I think that is fair to both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: 2ndaryinsanity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2ndaryinsanity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what completely selfish jerks!!! Owners should say, &quot;enough is enough!&quot; Refuse to cave in to these &quot;Me First A##holes&quot;.  I&#039;d like to point out to Peyton, Brees, and the others that they&#039;re risking hurting everyone... their fellow players; all the &quot;little guys&quot; who are employed by the teams and stadiums;  loyal fans who spend their hard earned money on tickets to games, apparel,etc.  But they obviously don&#039;t give a crap. I&#039;ve about had enough of these selfish- diva players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what completely selfish jerks!!! Owners should say, &#8220;enough is enough!&#8221; Refuse to cave in to these &#8220;Me First A##holes&#8221;.  I&#8217;d like to point out to Peyton, Brees, and the others that they&#8217;re risking hurting everyone&#8230; their fellow players; all the &#8220;little guys&#8221; who are employed by the teams and stadiums;  loyal fans who spend their hard earned money on tickets to games, apparel,etc.  But they obviously don&#8217;t give a crap. I&#8217;ve about had enough of these selfish- diva players.</p>
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		<title>By: 4gone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4gone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sad part is as soon as the lockout is resolved, they will be forgiven and cheered by their fan&#039;s.  There will be no consequence.  Rich and Spoiled. 

How can they even think that the common sports fan can relate to their plight????  You want to know what is wrong with the world and the economy - I give you exhibits A through D.  Turds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad part is as soon as the lockout is resolved, they will be forgiven and cheered by their fan&#8217;s.  There will be no consequence.  Rich and Spoiled. </p>
<p>How can they even think that the common sports fan can relate to their plight????  You want to know what is wrong with the world and the economy &#8211; I give you exhibits A through D.  Turds.</p>
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		<title>By: birdcrazy911</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[birdcrazy911]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m about to say F the whole thing and wait for Hockey to start. The best part about football is fantasy anyhow. I&#039;m sure this is some sort of planned stalling technique but i just blow my mind to think some of the more fortunate &amp; well paid people are screwing this up for everyone else. Let em all be free agents and lock them out again. See what there 230,000 insurance payment gets them. For the ones making that already it will feel like Christmas, for the ones B!tching about making 25 Mil a year it will hurt. Oh well I&#039;ll save my fantasy money for a new golf club.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about to say F the whole thing and wait for Hockey to start. The best part about football is fantasy anyhow. I&#8217;m sure this is some sort of planned stalling technique but i just blow my mind to think some of the more fortunate &amp; well paid people are screwing this up for everyone else. Let em all be free agents and lock them out again. See what there 230,000 insurance payment gets them. For the ones making that already it will feel like Christmas, for the ones B!tching about making 25 Mil a year it will hurt. Oh well I&#8217;ll save my fantasy money for a new golf club.</p>
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		<title>By: howiefeldersnatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[howiefeldersnatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peyton, Drew and any other player deserves every nickle they can get. Everyone on here seems to be against them racking up the big bucks but when was the last time any of you allowed an NFL team to make multi-millions off of your name? When was the last time anyone wore or even wanted a jersey with &quot;theguy57&quot; on the back of it? Never. NFL players have a very short window in their careers and are so entitled to capitalize on that. Anyone who is the best at what they do should have a larger slice of the pie and extra cool whip if they so desire.
The players who get less seem to give less. Who wants to give a huge contract or endorsement to the no name 3rd stringer who coasted through college, cant read and stutters through a mouth full of gold teeth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peyton, Drew and any other player deserves every nickle they can get. Everyone on here seems to be against them racking up the big bucks but when was the last time any of you allowed an NFL team to make multi-millions off of your name? When was the last time anyone wore or even wanted a jersey with &#8220;theguy57&#8243; on the back of it? Never. NFL players have a very short window in their careers and are so entitled to capitalize on that. Anyone who is the best at what they do should have a larger slice of the pie and extra cool whip if they so desire.<br />
The players who get less seem to give less. Who wants to give a huge contract or endorsement to the no name 3rd stringer who coasted through college, cant read and stutters through a mouth full of gold teeth?</p>
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		<title>By: breeshasabush</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I absolutely love the HATE that you people hurl towards Brees, it truly makes me laugh. You call Brees &quot;Greedy&quot;?... Really? You people obviously are all surface people and dont understand strategy. If there&#039;s one thing that Drew Brees isn&#039;t, its greedy. Setting up workouts at Tulane for all Saints players and rookies, including plane tickets and hotel rooms for them to come there and stay there... ALL out of his own pocket. Does that sound greedy?? If you&#039;re going to call manning and brees greedy and hate them as much as you do then you need to do the same for every single player in the NFL because the league minimum is enough to make everyone who posts on this site look like a complete bum. Just because Brees and Manning have been named throughout this entire ordeal doesn&#039;t mean that they are the only two people who have been &quot;holding up the process&quot;, its been the ENTIRE NFL, players and owners alike. All Manning and Brees are doing is making sure the owners dont try to use technicalities against them because they are due new contracts.... if every last one of you were in their position you would do the same. They&#039;re basically saying what happens if i get franchise tagged and then I get my knee blown out, hmmmm yes thats it i LOSE money and the team tries to lowball me the following year in contract negotiations bc im &quot;injury prone&quot; and &quot;up there in age&quot;. Its called security and every last one of us would do the exact same thing for ourselves, just because these guys are wealthy atheletes doesn&#039;t mean they dont want the same things we want: Job Security, Recognition for the good hard work you&#039;ve put in, compensation for personally bettering the company you work for, etc... Stop with this whole &quot;they&#039;re greedy, they have enough money so stop whining, i hope they get they&#039;re heads ripped off&quot;, the next time you personally start making billions of dollars for the company you work for and you DONT ask for a raise in pay or special priveleges then you can say whatever you want about those guys but dont pretend that you would do something that we all know you wouldn&#039;t!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love the HATE that you people hurl towards Brees, it truly makes me laugh. You call Brees &#8220;Greedy&#8221;?&#8230; Really? You people obviously are all surface people and dont understand strategy. If there&#8217;s one thing that Drew Brees isn&#8217;t, its greedy. Setting up workouts at Tulane for all Saints players and rookies, including plane tickets and hotel rooms for them to come there and stay there&#8230; ALL out of his own pocket. Does that sound greedy?? If you&#8217;re going to call manning and brees greedy and hate them as much as you do then you need to do the same for every single player in the NFL because the league minimum is enough to make everyone who posts on this site look like a complete bum. Just because Brees and Manning have been named throughout this entire ordeal doesn&#8217;t mean that they are the only two people who have been &#8220;holding up the process&#8221;, its been the ENTIRE NFL, players and owners alike. All Manning and Brees are doing is making sure the owners dont try to use technicalities against them because they are due new contracts&#8230;. if every last one of you were in their position you would do the same. They&#8217;re basically saying what happens if i get franchise tagged and then I get my knee blown out, hmmmm yes thats it i LOSE money and the team tries to lowball me the following year in contract negotiations bc im &#8220;injury prone&#8221; and &#8220;up there in age&#8221;. Its called security and every last one of us would do the exact same thing for ourselves, just because these guys are wealthy atheletes doesn&#8217;t mean they dont want the same things we want: Job Security, Recognition for the good hard work you&#8217;ve put in, compensation for personally bettering the company you work for, etc&#8230; Stop with this whole &#8220;they&#8217;re greedy, they have enough money so stop whining, i hope they get they&#8217;re heads ripped off&#8221;, the next time you personally start making billions of dollars for the company you work for and you DONT ask for a raise in pay or special priveleges then you can say whatever you want about those guys but dont pretend that you would do something that we all know you wouldn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: xli2006</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody who thinks Peyton is changing teams needs some serious help.

This is a strategic move giving both maximum leverage. We might not like it, but how can we blame them for wanting the Tag eliminated.

IT&#039;S CALLED LEVERAGE and these players are Businessmen as much as they are Athletes.

The Colts would actually save money by Tagging Manning instead of paying him the contract they are about to pay so wisely Manning would like the Tag off the table. That really doesn&#039;t make sense to Manning or even the Colts.

The Manning Deal will likely be around $20 Million and be one of the most lucrative in the NFL. Expect it to be around 5 years or so.

Peyton will retire a Colt... fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who thinks Peyton is changing teams needs some serious help.</p>
<p>This is a strategic move giving both maximum leverage. We might not like it, but how can we blame them for wanting the Tag eliminated.</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S CALLED LEVERAGE and these players are Businessmen as much as they are Athletes.</p>
<p>The Colts would actually save money by Tagging Manning instead of paying him the contract they are about to pay so wisely Manning would like the Tag off the table. That really doesn&#8217;t make sense to Manning or even the Colts.</p>
<p>The Manning Deal will likely be around $20 Million and be one of the most lucrative in the NFL. Expect it to be around 5 years or so.</p>
<p>Peyton will retire a Colt&#8230; fact.</p>
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		<title>By: siggy00</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Manning wanting special treatment?  

Oh go on.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Manning wanting special treatment?  </p>
<p>Oh go on&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: 504in860</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/peyton-manning-and-drew-brees-request-settlement-terms/#comment-1131871</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[southcakpanther says: Jul 19, 2011 1:48 PM

Like I needed another reason to stoke my sports hatred of the Saints and Drew Brees. The bandwagon “who dat” or “who dey” fanbase was bad enough, but now add the whinny QB that keeps trying to derail progress to fill his wallet. Go back into the shadows where you’ve been hiding the last month Drew.
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The Panthers. LMFAO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southcakpanther says: Jul 19, 2011 1:48 PM</p>
<p>Like I needed another reason to stoke my sports hatred of the Saints and Drew Brees. The bandwagon “who dat” or “who dey” fanbase was bad enough, but now add the whinny QB that keeps trying to derail progress to fill his wallet. Go back into the shadows where you’ve been hiding the last month Drew.<br />
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<p>The Panthers. LMFAO</p>
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		<title>By: goawayeverybody</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goawayeverybody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When is the lockout ending?]]></description>
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		<title>By: tommyf15</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommyf15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all say we love &lt;b&gt;competitive balance&lt;/b&gt;, right? 

If you&#039;re such a believer in &lt;b&gt;competitive balance&lt;/b&gt;, why would you support the franchise tag? 

From a &lt;b&gt;competitive balance&lt;/b&gt; standpoint, the Colts retaining Peyton Manning for less money than he&#039;d get in the open market is an unfair advantage, thus being a hinderance to &lt;b&gt;competitive balance&lt;/b&gt;.

Don&#039;t be lazy and just hit the thumbs down button if you don&#039;t agree with me. Tell me WHY you think the franchise tag is good for the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all say we love <b>competitive balance</b>, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re such a believer in <b>competitive balance</b>, why would you support the franchise tag? </p>
<p>From a <b>competitive balance</b> standpoint, the Colts retaining Peyton Manning for less money than he&#8217;d get in the open market is an unfair advantage, thus being a hinderance to <b>competitive balance</b>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be lazy and just hit the thumbs down button if you don&#8217;t agree with me. Tell me WHY you think the franchise tag is good for the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: gtmann</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fine. Let these a holes  be free agents. Some team will sign Brees and Manning for sure . I&#039;m not sure that the Colts can addord to pay Manning $25M . At least not if they want to field a quality team . He has already hurt the in that respect.

I am originally from Baltimore so I have hated the Colts since the move and have never been a Manning fan . I&#039;m not sure if he is as goiod as he appears . Send him to the Redskins with a garbage line and no receivers . Let&#039;s see how well he does there .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine. Let these a holes  be free agents. Some team will sign Brees and Manning for sure . I&#8217;m not sure that the Colts can addord to pay Manning $25M . At least not if they want to field a quality team . He has already hurt the in that respect.</p>
<p>I am originally from Baltimore so I have hated the Colts since the move and have never been a Manning fan . I&#8217;m not sure if he is as goiod as he appears . Send him to the Redskins with a garbage line and no receivers . Let&#8217;s see how well he does there .</p>
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		<title>By: theguy57</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theguy57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Manning has been to 0 meetings! ZERO!
Mankins has been to ZERO (0)!
They have done nothing to further this cause. if this haults progress ... i am so sick of this whole thing. They almost made it through with no collateral damage ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manning has been to 0 meetings! ZERO!<br />
Mankins has been to ZERO (0)!<br />
They have done nothing to further this cause. if this haults progress &#8230; i am so sick of this whole thing. They almost made it through with no collateral damage &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: theguy57</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theguy57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My P. Manning jersey is on fire right now.]]></description>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the &quot;process&quot;?  Crap!  These greedy players just want every dime from the owners.  Just keep pushing and there will be no football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the &#8220;process&#8221;?  Crap!  These greedy players just want every dime from the owners.  Just keep pushing and there will be no football.</p>
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		<title>By: marthisdil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marthisdil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owners should tell the NFLPA lawyers &quot;If the named plaintiffs wish to continue this course of action, then we will have no choice but to scuttle the current deal, we will continue ahead with our claim that the NFLPA disbanding is in FACT a sham, and will not offer any protection against it.  Please have the 10 named plaintiffs explain to the other 2000 players how they are better than they are, and their exact reasons for screwing everyone else.&quot;

Nuff said.  I used to like Peyton...screw him and the rest now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owners should tell the NFLPA lawyers &#8220;If the named plaintiffs wish to continue this course of action, then we will have no choice but to scuttle the current deal, we will continue ahead with our claim that the NFLPA disbanding is in FACT a sham, and will not offer any protection against it.  Please have the 10 named plaintiffs explain to the other 2000 players how they are better than they are, and their exact reasons for screwing everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nuff said.  I used to like Peyton&#8230;screw him and the rest now.</p>
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		<title>By: nineroutsider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nineroutsider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help it, I wish Jackson, Mankins, Brees, and Peyton the very worst. They don&#039;t deserve anything extra!!!

Complete BS, obviously I want football, but what a joke. Offer Brees a mole removal procedure and Payton a forehead reduction procedure and call it all good.

For those that support these tools because of Reggie White&#039;s settlement terms, consider that White actually took a risk and produced a completely new set of benefits for every player that they never had before. These guys did nothing even close to it.

The NFL is also to blame, if they were just going to scramble to negotiate before the lockout could even be effective (accept to give the players a nice vacation), why do it and let these idiots take you to court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help it, I wish Jackson, Mankins, Brees, and Peyton the very worst. They don&#8217;t deserve anything extra!!!</p>
<p>Complete BS, obviously I want football, but what a joke. Offer Brees a mole removal procedure and Payton a forehead reduction procedure and call it all good.</p>
<p>For those that support these tools because of Reggie White&#8217;s settlement terms, consider that White actually took a risk and produced a completely new set of benefits for every player that they never had before. These guys did nothing even close to it.</p>
<p>The NFL is also to blame, if they were just going to scramble to negotiate before the lockout could even be effective (accept to give the players a nice vacation), why do it and let these idiots take you to court.</p>
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		<title>By: evrybdyhas1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evrybdyhas1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is that were doing this for all the players working out?
Vote no owners set you terms of employment and move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is that were doing this for all the players working out?<br />
Vote no owners set you terms of employment and move on.</p>
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