The Manning, Brees, Mankins, Jackson backlash begins

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With four of the 10 named plaintiffs who supposedly are representing all players trying to cut their own deal, possibly at the risk of blowing up the entire settlement, the other 1,896 players can’t be all that happy about this.

Now, at least one of them has gone on the record.  (Sure, he’s a punter.  But he’s still technically a player.)

Vikings punter Chris Kluwe has posted the following message on his Twitter page:  “Sigh, and once again greed is the operative byword. Congrats Brees, Manning, Mankins, and Jackson for being ‘that guy’.  #douchebags.

We love you, Chris Kluwe.  Even though you’re just a punter.

131 responses to “The Manning, Brees, Mankins, Jackson backlash begins

  1. The franchise thing can be solved in 5 seconds. Just make it retroactive. Jackson and Mankins have been franschised before, they are exempt. Brees and Manning haven’t…wait a season. That is the fair solution.

    And it counts for everyone. Not just the lawsuit guys.

  2. I hope this Lockout ends sooner rather than later, but a little bit of me is hoping the owners go the FU route on this one, and I would love to see the remaining 1,900+ players speak up. I’m sure they have a lot of emotion brewing for the extended lockout to begin with.

    Brees is the worst of them right now in my opinion. He is so phony. We know about Vincent and Manning.

  3. I’m gonna start following that punter guy.

    seems pretty cool, for a viking punter

  4. It really irks me to agree with a punter but they filed the lawsuit for betterment of all players not for the betterment of themselves. Trying to use it to benefit themselves while hurting the rest of the players seems selfish and wrong.

    I understand and sympathies with Mankins and Jackson wanting to leave their teams. But that does make it right what they are doing. But the worst is Manning “Mr. Perfect image.”

    But maybe I am jumping to a conclusion here. It is possible that these players are being asked by the Players association to demand compensation as negotiating ploy to give all the players a little extra. If that is the case I apologize and applaud them as they are trying to do something for all players while their image takes a hit as a result. Essentially an act of self sacrifice.

  5. Wait a minute. Are these four guys the mosquitoes Jerry Jones is trying to circumcise? Now THAT would put the phrase “cut their own deal” in a new light..

  6. Hammer these clowns with all the social media we can: twitter,facebook,etc!! All the negotiations and it comes down to these greedy b@tches?

  7. Manning doesn’t care what some liquered up punter thinks!

    Ironic that a teams wussiest player is the one that has the most courage to speak up. I hope for his sake he’s a good punter.

  8. “Here we are, I’m out at this darn hearing, I’m about to go in and and help get a new CBA done, we’re about to get a deal finished, and we’re talking about an idiot punter who got liquored up and ran his mouth off.”

  9. Sounds like this punter will need to have his head on a swivel the next 4th down he plays.

  10. As a Packer fan, I have a pretty strong hatred for all Vikings. That said, I’m finding it hard to not like Chris Kluwe – He’s a pretty hilarious dude.

  11. “omegalh says: Jul 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    The franchise thing can be solved in 5 seconds. Just make it retroactive. Jackson and Mankins have been franschised before, they are exempt. Brees and Manning haven’t…wait a season. That is the fair solution.

    And it counts for everyone. Not just the lawsuit guys.”

    Mankins has not been franchised, he was a restricted free agent last season. This year would be his first season under the franchise tag…..

  12. When Chris Kluwe leads his team to a Superbowl and generates billions of dollars for the NFL then I guess people would have to listen to what he has to say. Seeing that he’s wearing a Vikings jersey further lets me know how much to truly care.

  13. I think these guys should be interviewed to get their version of why they are placing themselves above all of the other players and jeopardizing football being played in 2011.

  14. I think there is more to the story that is being told. Manning has puposely held a low key position in the talks so that he doesn’t piss off fans or owners… I can’t imagine that he’d take thist stubborn stand now that it’s almost over.

    Then again, if it’s true… Scr** them!

  15. Better grab what you can Potato Head and Birth Defect, because your off field marketing value just when down the toilet with a loud swoosh and a gurgle.

  16. I expected nothing less from the greedy Peyton Manning. Hey Peyton, go find another 15 products to endorse to make up that money.

  17. Without individual plaintiffs, there is no lawsuit. Without a lawsuit, there are no negotiations. Instead, there’s the owners dictating what the revenue split will be and an 18 game season beginning in 2012.

    I wonder if Chris Kluwe considered that. Probably, as a punter, he doesn’t care much since his contract will likely be vet minimum.

  18. Wow, it amazes me how many of you tough guy posters here don’t get the importance of the punter. He is the guy that has to come out on fourth down to bail out your sputtering offense and try to get your defense decent field position all the while hoping not to get killed because of a missed assignment. One of the most important positions in the league.

  19. o-lines won’t block for them – defense will easily end these money grabbers nfl careers! bring it on!

  20. I am not a Vikings fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I am going to order Kluwe jersey and waer it to opening day. Finally a player that tells the other spoiled kids to stop being selfish and acting like brats. Now if we could get some of the higher profile players, both past and present to do the same.

  21. Kluwe will either be the whiteboard illustration guy for that delivery service, or a comedian.

    He’s upset cuz he can’t practice his routine on teammates on the sidelines between punts.

  22. …123m…they filed on behalf of all the players really. They didnt have an epiphany and save the league. Now instead of acting as a team, they want to get more than they deserve.

    I wonder if you considered that, as a basement poster, you dont care much about sense, just that mom got you your Cookie Crisp.

  23. I know it doesn’t make any sense, but I’m somehow finding a way to draft this guy in every fantasy league this year…

  24. Just curious… when there is positive news w/ the NFLPA* Lawsuit, the headline always reads Brady or Brees’s name first. When it’s negative news, why is Manning now the first name listed???

  25. Always thought Brees and Manning goody-goody two shoes image was a bunch of BS. Jackson and Menkins deserve something since they are the one’s who really took the chance. B and M were supposed to just be figureheads representing the everyday player and end up trying to get something on their personal agenda. Hope this illuminates to fans what these two really are, self-centered individuals just as much as any other player, no better.

  26. While I agree with Kluwe, he needs to remember that kickers (especially punters) are like children. They’re better seen and not heard.

  27. I can see mankins and jackson being set free; they were tagged last year. Manning and brees should just move on. If a team doesn’t want to pay a guy let him go! Pay the guy or let them go, it’s that simple!

  28. I like how he called them all “dbags” at the end. lol. Kluwe definitely said what everyone in the world except Kessler is thinking.

  29. Hopefully these guys will delay the settlement so that the preseason games are missed and season ticket holders can get a refund.

    NFL Season Ticket Holders

  30. The real sad part is that they have to know that by demanding that much coin for one player, that the team cannot afford to surround them with top tier talent….and they don’t care as long as they get theirs.

  31. To those wondering…Kluwe is a damn fine punter! Last year he had a 43.0 yard average. He also placed 34 punts inside the 20 yard line. Not shabby.

    Yet, it is his common sense leadership that is truly remarkable. If any player can be a voice for the fan, it would probably be a punter; and Kluwe is probably the best punter for the job!

    All Hail the Punter…the everyday man in the NFL! All Hail Chris Kluwe!

  32. mightymightylafootball says:
    Jul 19, 2011 2:46 PM
    Kluwe is clearly a PFT commenter.

    Nice to hve you on board, Chris.
    __________________

    I can only think of one PFT commenter who is clever enough to be Chris Kluwe, and I’m not him.

  33. Here’s hoping defenders around the league remember what these guys did when the pads are on.

  34. His screen name is ChrisWarcraft – and it’s also not verified by Twitter. Not calling shenanigans, but just wondering…

    ————————————————–

    Its him…

  35. He got balls!

    Way to own it.

    nothing anonymous about that tweet.

    Unless his account was hacked

  36. Can’t believe Manning and Brees would risk the PR hit. Their good names are worth more in endorsements than any settlement.

    Mankins and Jackson have shown their selfish nature before so it isn’t surprising out of these two clowns.

  37. Kluwe is good stuff. He calls into KFAN (Minneapolis sports talk). They call him Warcraft because he is big into video games. Guy actually has a great radio presence. He’s also in a pretty decent rock group that plays local called Tripping Icarus. And he’s pretty hilarious.

    Oh and he happens to be one of the better punters in the NFL.

    Vikings now officially have had the two coolest punters of all time. Kluwe (hilarious) and Mitch Berger (hardest hitting punter I’ve ever seen, lol, and also that Snickers commercial guy).

  38. “Wisconsin77 says: Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    Say what you want about Favre, but he would never pull a dick move like what Manning and Brady are doing.”

    Brady isnt holding anything up from what I have read….

  39. omegalh says:
    Jul 19, 2011 2:46 PM
    The franchise thing can be solved in 5 seconds. Just make it retroactive. Jackson and Mankins have been franschised before, they are exempt. Brees and Manning haven’t…wait a season. That is the fair solution.

    And it counts for everyone. Not just the lawsuit guys.

    ——————

    How do people following this still have no clue what’s going on?

  40. I thought these guys were the faces of the NFL and all along there has been only one face of the NFL – Benjamin Franklin.

    It’s all about the Benjamins. Sad reality.

  41. In related news, Chris Kluwe is the odds on favorite to win the MVP award this year.

  42. three of the league “darlings” blowing it for the league as a whole. I hope the spoiled jerks are happy with themselves. I hope they’re treated accordingly if and when they ever play in the league again…

  43. homelanddefense says:
    Jul 19, 2011 3:41 PM
    “Wisconsin77 says: Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    Say what you want about Favre, but he would never pull a dick move like what Manning and Brady are doing.”

    Brady isnt holding anything up from what I have read….
    _____________

    Are you guys doing this on purpose? I do recall something about Favre pulling something and holding something up.

  44. Why is it that everyone is so quick to jump on the players backs? Even guys who make the league minimum make money I can only dream of, so I don’t feel any pity for any of them.

    Guys like Peyton and Drew put butts in the seats and they deserve to get whatever they can. I’d rather see the Franchise tag go away completely. Seems whenever a team uses it they just alienate the player they’re trying to keep.

    This could also just be a smoke screen to take the pressure off the negotiations and put the focus on the player’s lawsuit, which will be dismissed as soon as the CBA is signed.

    Never forget that every player in the NFL puts their body and future on the line every time they line up for a play. Whatever they can get, is whatever they can get. The business side of professional sports bores the hell out of me. Just come to an agreement and start the league year, please!

  45. What do you expect from Brady… He’s still bitter because he wasn’t drafted higher. The junior high kid never grew up.

  46. “omegalh says: Jul 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    The franchise thing can be solved in 5 seconds. Just make it retroactive. Jackson and Mankins have been franschised before, they are exempt. Brees and Manning haven’t…wait a season. That is the fair solution.

    And it counts for everyone. Not just the lawsuit guys.”

    Mankins has not been franchised, he was a restricted free agent last season. This year would be his first season under the franchise tag…..”

    Okay. then he sits a season. rules still holds.

  47. well I know who I’m voting for for the cover of Madden next year –

    PUNTERS ROCK

  48. Like many NFL fans I’ve been waiting for a CBA, until now.

    I could listen to Kluwe for another week or two.
    Too damn funny, besides pre-season blows.

  49. @rbirving – how dumb are you? Tell me, if you were one of the 1896 other guys who would be risking missing game checks because of the greed of only four others who are already pretty well paid, would you be mad or have the same sentiment.

    Don’t bother answering, because I know the truth and so does everyone else. Besides, do you HONESTLY think that everyone in the stadium is there to JUST see Manning or Brees? If they deserve that much coin, let them do it without an offensive line, without receivers and without a defense to get them the ball back.

    Numbnuts.

  50. Another liquored up idiot kicker trying for his 15 minutes of fame. What is the over/under for his tryout in the CFL?

  51. Here’s hoping that one of Kenny Britt’s Facebook “hackers” isn’t the one that actually sent the tweet.

    Kluwe Rules!

  52. It would seem to me if ONE player wants something more to settle at the cost of the rest, the PA attorneys have a conflict on their hands!
    I wonder if any individual player would want to invest his own money to carry on a very expensive anti trust case against the NFL with substitute counsel?

  53. I’ll weigh in on Mankins. Yeah, he thinks he got screwed. But he knew what the playing field was like when he signed his deal and when he held out. He played hardball with the Pats and lost. If he wants to hold out again, that’s up to him. His record off the field isn’t as good as it is on the field. The punter is correct. These guys want to hold out for better deals for THEMSELVES.

    As far as Manning goes, the Colts offered him more than the MVP of the league Tom Brady got. What more does he want (other than Brady’s wife)? Some of these guys are pigs.

  54. @m2karateman

    I never have conversations with people who think it’s important to include personal attacks in their posts. Although I’m suspecting that Numbnuts was your personal signature.

    Has it even occurred to anyone that this last minute play is an effort of the NFLPA* to grind the axe on the Franchise tag? Show me a player who likes it? I might agree with the negative assessment if this actually leads to a break down in the talks, I don’t think it will though.

  55. If anyone is a douche bag, it’s this guy. Now it’s their fault for bringing on the lockout? If he was given the opportunity to be a plaintiff, you think he would have passed? Someone is mad that they aren’t as important as the other guys. Awwww…

    I guess punters have to make the “highlight” reel somehow.

  56. One high-ranking NFLPA executive told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen: “Any media reports of a last-minute power play by players are misleading and erroneous. There are unresolved issues and we remain focused on resolving them.”

    I knew it was just media bs

  57. Kluwe needs to conserve his energy … he’s going to be more busy this season than a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest.

  58. Peter King is stupid. To say the people of Tampa want to sign Peyton Manning is ludicrous. we have a future superstar in Josh Freeman!!! Why would we want an old QB for big bucks!!!

  59. homelanddefense says:
    Jul 19, 2011 3:41 PM
    “Wisconsin77 says: Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    Say what you want about Favre, but he would never pull a dick move like what Manning and Brady are doing.”

    Brady isnt holding anything up from what I have read….
    ______________________________
    Homeland-He’s not, that Wisc77 dude HATES Brady and LOOOOOOOVES Favre so he will take any opportunity he can to hagiographize Favruh and hate on TB. It’s super annoying and puerile especially when his hero has 0 to do with anything in the article.

    I can’t believe Kluwe actually said that. Wowzers. On one hand if this whole thing is true it’s hard to blame him for being angry. On the other hand, it’s probably not a good idea to say it.

  60. I say let them have their special treatment, just so long as they also agree to accept 1 other exemption each.

    If they want freedom from the franchise tag, I say the league should insist on Manning and Brees being exempted from the “roughing the passer” rule. Vincent Jackson should be excluded from the protections for a defenseless receiver. Mankins should be exempt from any protection for defensive players cut blocking him in the knees.

    The league should insist on this as a concession to all the other players represented in the class action, who Manning, Brees, Jackson and Mankins are fine with being subject to franchise tag.

  61. I have mostly been on the players side on all this and think with my own limited knowledge that the compromise coming forth is a good deal for both sides. But a few big name players trying to use this for there own and only there own personal gain is disgusting. If these guys can’t operate under the rules they helped make for everyone else I really don’t need them even if they are some of the best playing right now. and i will now be a chris kluwe fan for life!

  62. Wisconsin77 says:Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    Say what you want about Favre, but he would never pull a dick move like what Manning and Brady are doing.
    _______________________________

    How the F__k did Brady get dragged into this discussion? He isnt holding up the negotiations, he isnt asking for special treatment. He is simply named in the lawsuit.

  63. Chris Kluwe is like that guy that sells Gremlins….
    “don’t let it eat after midnight, don’t dip it in water”…

    Dude is the voice of reason.

  64. Bravo to Kluwe! None of these self absorbed POS’s are worth 5.00. They do nothing of any social significance. 14 mil out of work and they bitch about money…..

    Pitiful.

  65. CKL says: Jul 19, 2011 5:54 PM
    Homeland-He’s not, that Wisc77 dude HATES Brady and LOOOOOOOVES Favre so he will take any opportunity he can to hagiographize Favruh and hate on TB. It’s super annoying and puerile especially when his hero has 0 to do with anything in the article.

    Really? Point to one post other the well deserved one in this thread where I “hate” on Brady? And yes, Brady is part of this lawsuit that is holding up the CBA along with the others, so he is not innocent in this either.

  66. endzonezombie says: Jul 19, 2011 4:47 PM

    Another liquored up idiot kicker trying for his 15 minutes of fame. What is the over/under for his tryout in the CFL?

    ——————-

    hey genius, if you knew at all what you were talking about, you’d know Kluwe’s actually one of the better punters in the NFL right now.

    And a hilarious guy.

    Nice try though

  67. Sorry but they didnt get asked to be a part of the settlement bc of name recognition they got asked to be part of it bc they knew these guys would have the best arguement against the franchise tag and the other areas of the suit. There are alot bigger names in the NFL then Mankins and Jackson. If it was just about name recognition they would pick dozens of guys before those two.

    No they used them bc of their expierence last year going against the nfl and the franchise tag. They both held out and lost significant time and money trying to fight against the tag. And Brees and Manning were added not just bc of their names but bc they were going to be franchise tagged next. Thats why these guys were added not just bc of their names but bc they were or were going to be effected the most by the existence of the franchise tag and making those situations public through a law suit was the best for them to put attention on the franchise tag so they could try to get rid of it.

    That was 1 of there main goals from jump street. It isnt a coincedence that most of the plantiffs had some kind of previous or impending run in with the franchise tag. Just bc a deal is almost done and the law suit is becoming obsolete doesnt mean the union leadership wants the franchise tag to be ebolished any less. So I dont doubt that they are privately pushing the plantiffs to ask for a life long exemption from the F-tag. Just so in the future when they are argueing that having a franchise tag is wrong, they can point that moment and say “back then you agreed to give life exemptions to the certian players, you guys most have obviously knew that there was something wrong about being able to hold on the rights to a player even after his contract expires, other wise you would have never agreed to do it”

    Who knows if thats exactly whats happening. But I do know theres A LOT more going on then the unions just picking these guys bc of there name recognition. and those 4 guys trying to take advantage of it so they can get something extra for themselves.

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