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Approval of CBA by players should be a no-brainer

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As the NFLPA* Executive Committee and the NFLPA* board of player representatives gather in Washington to consider the proposed labor deal, there’s a chance that things could get (even more) interesting.

Jim Trotter of SI.com reported via Twitter on Tuesday that some of the player representatives are “expecting a spirited debate.”  Why a spirited debate?  As Trotted explained it, “[S]ome players feel they finally have leverage and want to use it.”  (If having “leverage” means relying on the fact that they’ll lose only $96 million for each week of the preseason that is canceled and that the owners will lose $104 million, then the players apparently have “leverage.”)

Truth be told, there should be no debate.  There should be no discussion.  There should be no hesitation.  The players hired DeMaurice Smith for one purpose:  To stand in front of the proverbial tank in Tiananmen Square and force the owners to greatly reduce their demands for givebacks in the new labor deal.  After months of maneuverings and rhetoric and, ultimately, negotiations, Smith has forged an agreement that he is willing to recommend to the players.

Put simply, if the players won’t immediately accept the recommendation of the man whom they hired to make a recommendation they could immediately accept, then they should immediately fire De Smith.

Sure, the players need to understand what they’re agreeing to.  And the Executive Committee and board of player reps possibly need to vent about a few things before inevitably recommending that the rank and file reform the union and accept the terms of the proposed CBA.

Any stiff resistance would be a surprise, and it simply shouldn’t happen.  The players necessarily pre-approved this deal when hiring DeMaurice Smith.  Failure to accept his recommendation now would amount to an admission that they hired the wrong guy.

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50 Responses to “Approval of CBA by players should be a no-brainer”
  1. meyerla says: Jul 20, 2011 10:41 AM

    Your posts reek of a desperate desire to see the lockout end and football start. I love it!

  2. grpatriot says: Jul 20, 2011 10:42 AM

    Just get it done!

  3. aaronitout says: Jul 20, 2011 10:43 AM

    I wish I could hate the players for holding this up, if they do. The truth of the matter is I love NFL football so much that I’ll be waiting like a puppy for it to start again, no matter what happens.

  4. tomsd1 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:44 AM

    We shall see if Jackson and Mankin sign off.

  5. SteveBeans says: Jul 20, 2011 10:45 AM

    There will be a loud minority of players speaking up, but the reality is they know they’re seriously close to missing checks, so I bet this will pass easily.

    This will be like the issues yesterday, a few trying to squeeze every penny until they see the backlash of it and quickly back down. I’ll be shocked if it’s not approved by the players.

  6. patsfan89 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:46 AM

    I will be surprised if even one of the player reps votes against. This has to go through, listening to players in interviews everywhere, they just wanna get back to playing. Up here in Canada all i have right now is the CFL please save me i want my NFL back. LETS GO!!!

  7. realitypolice says: Jul 20, 2011 10:48 AM

    Approval of CBA by players should be a no-brainer
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    That’s good, because most of them have no brains.

  8. thecross2 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:50 AM

    I actually think they may do the NFL more harm than MLB, if they get greedy now. In this economy, with everyone struggling like they are… we all need football to dull the pain. For them to stab their fans in the back for a few extra bucks might do irreparable harm.

  9. captainwisdom8888 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:52 AM

    Just look at Demaurice Smith and ask yourself again why you think this took so long….

  10. t16rich says: Jul 20, 2011 10:53 AM

    Did these players get a bachelors in greed instead of business with those scholarships? CMON MAN!!! Quit making me a fan of the owners.

  11. kspec1982 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:55 AM

    I’m soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo over this.
    Shut your mouths players.
    Shut your mouths owners.
    especially shut your mouths lawyers.

    GET THE DEAL DONE NOW.

  12. austinbrownsfan says: Jul 20, 2011 10:55 AM

    Majority of players don’t make 1st round/superstar coin. They won’t accept missing any paychecks … this thing gets approved by NFLPA today! Go Browns!

  13. bmac187 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:57 AM

    realitypolice says:
    Jul 20, 2011 10:48 AM
    Approval of CBA by players should be a no-brainer
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    That’s good, because most of them have no brains.
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    Yet all wildy more successful than you I imagine.

  14. glac1 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:57 AM

    Don’t count on it…”brains” and the NFLPA are involved. Greed, selfishness, an “I” attitude and union involvement could hamper things…….

  15. zerored78 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:58 AM

    “Put simply, if the players won’t immediately accept the recommendation of the man whom they hired to make a recommendation they could immediately accept, then they should immediately fire De Smith.

    Sure, the players need to understand what they’re agreeing to. And the Executive Committee and board of player reps possibly need to vent about a few things before inevitably recommending that the rank and file reform the union and accept the terms of the proposed CBA.”

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    What a strange, contradictory post.

  16. hydenja says: Jul 20, 2011 11:00 AM

    The players/owners need to quit acting like they are members of congress

  17. vmannj says: Jul 20, 2011 11:00 AM

    For the record, I still think they hired the wrong guy. I don’t think Troy Vincent would have decertified* the union. I don’t think Troy Vincent would have sought litigation, and ultimately avoided negotiations for over 2 months. And if former players (and soon-to-be-former players) wanted a louder voice in the process, then they should have picked a former player, not a lawyer.

  18. superdanlp says: Jul 20, 2011 11:01 AM

    There is a severe lack of lockout news on this site today. Of course it should be approved without any resistance, but from what I’m gathering it isn’t even ready to be voted on yet? How bout we get an article explaining the current state of the CBA.

  19. goldeelox says: Jul 20, 2011 11:02 AM

    Barring the introduction of unaccounted for t’s and i’s.

  20. spikeit2times says: Jul 20, 2011 11:05 AM

    The players are the reason Baskeball isn’t as popular as it once was.

    The players are the reason Baseball isn’t as popular as it once was.

    The players are the reson Hockey isn’t as popular as it once was.

    When will players start seeing the pattern here?

  21. pkrjones says: Jul 20, 2011 11:05 AM

    … and also a no-brainer for the owners. After voicing their concerns to the owner-negotiating “team” the owners should ALL be behind this deal. Those that aren’t happy and looking to pull the rip-cord early (again!!) should sell and find a less mentally-strenuous investment. A good negotiation means neither side is happy, but content with the outcome. Sign off and let’s play ball.

  22. goawayeverybody says: Jul 20, 2011 11:08 AM

    Failure to accept this recommendation now means I turn to college football for the rest of my life.

  23. oldbrowndawg says: Jul 20, 2011 11:09 AM

    Sad reality in a society in which millionaires cry like babies even as they’re luckier than almost all their peers in this country. Imagine Otto Graham or the guys he played with acting like this. Had they done so, I suspect pro football would have died in the crib.

    Oh well, just get the damned thing signed and let’s have some football. Nothing will ever change these narcissistic dudes, so let’s just move on.

  24. phreakin says: Jul 20, 2011 11:11 AM

    Just saw Kevin Mawae on NFLN from earlier today saying how they are not in a rush, and have no set time line to get a deal done. The reporters were throwing him softballs to just say they were close to being done and he said nothing close to it. He actually was quite the opposite.

  25. macjacmccoy says: Jul 20, 2011 11:12 AM

    “Any stiff resistance would be a surprise, and it simply shouldn’t happen. The players necessarily pre-approved this deal when hiring DeMaurice Smith. Failure to accept his recommendation now would amount to an admission that they hired the wrong guy.”

    And you think its worse to admitt that you hired the wrong guy then to agree to a bad deal? Thats an asinine way to think about it. Yea of course when you hired the guy you did so believing he would get you a good deal. But if he then comes to you with a recommendation for a deal that is no where near the kind of deal you thought he was hired to get you, your not going to say o well we hired the guy so we just got to live with the deal he brings. Doing that makes no sense.

    Of course I dont want that to happen but to act like admitting that you made a mistake when hiring a guy is so bad that its better to just agree to what ever deal he brings you so you dont have to admitt you made a bad hire is the most ludacrious thing I have ever heard. And it wasnt like it was an unanimous vote to appoint him anyway there were mutiple contenders that each had multiple supporters with in the union.

    So ya maybe there should be less debate from the guys who voted for De Smith. Even though they to have a right to admit they made a mistake when hiring him. But what about the other 49.9999%(or w/e the minium was) of the union that wasnt needed to get him elected? They cant question a deal that was negotiated and brought to them by a guy that they didnt even want to hire?

    I know its annoying but thinking before you make a statement, helps make that statement make more sense.

  26. backuppunter says: Jul 20, 2011 11:16 AM

    yay football. i’m just going to stop reading the stories that say things like Deal Close But Wait!!!
    no i am over that. football is coming. at worst no hall of fame game and more out of shape players. oh well i’ll get over it. i love the new cap maximum/minnimum deal. looking forward to a full season. done with hating players/owners/lawyers/selfrightous know it all commenters on this web site.

    Am only reading actual football news from now on!

  27. bronco1st says: Jul 20, 2011 11:18 AM

    This is it on the CBA news? You guys left off last night with the lawyers taking a break for dinner and this is the only “news” since then? When did they return last night, how long did they work, did all the t’s get crossed and the i’s get doted? Was their any progress or new hangups? Is the proposal ready to be presented and voted on? Come on guys, have all the “sources” suddenly dried up? Did Albert Breers quit his “stakeout”? There should be more coverage at this point, NOT less!

  28. clintonrb says: Jul 20, 2011 11:21 AM

    this is so up and down
    d smith agrees with the proposal right?
    that parts done correct?

  29. clintonrb says: Jul 20, 2011 11:22 AM

    what is mawaes title?

  30. Kaz says: Jul 20, 2011 11:25 AM

    phreakin says:
    Jul 20, 2011 11:11 AM
    Just saw Kevin Mawae on NFLN from earlier today saying how they are not in a rush, and have no set time line to get a deal done. The reporters were throwing him softballs to just say they were close to being done and he said nothing close to it. He actually was quite the opposite.
    ___

    Your exactly right. I was refering to this in another comment thread (games top fullback leach thread, ofcourse people hated before they knew). If they thought things were going smooth today, it has been nothing but. We’ll see if things change this afternoon.

  31. narlo00 says: Jul 20, 2011 11:25 AM

    i love football as much as the next guy but when this lock out is lifted, i’d like to see just for one week out of the season, where, on sunday, not one person goes to a game, buys merchandise, watches it on tv, etc.. just to show these guys how much they need us. i know it won’t happen but would love to see it. although just like everybody else i’m constantly refreshing espn to see if they’ve lifted it.

  32. copman40 says: Jul 20, 2011 11:27 AM

    The players and their Union decertified. What is all this talk about the NFLPA, it doesn’t excist

  33. nineroutsider says: Jul 20, 2011 11:27 AM

    After some huffs and puffs, they will approve it.

    We all ripped on DeMo, but when it’s all said and done, he will deserve some credit. Same with Goodell.

    Can’t say the same about the lawyers (at least on the players side)…

  34. bengalanthony13 says: Jul 20, 2011 11:34 AM

    De Smith’s proposal to the NFLPA Executive Committee would probably sound like this:

    “I think that once you look at this proposed deal, you’ll really dig it. You’ll see that we dug in and received many of the concessions we were looking for from the owners. Let’s sign this and get back to playing the game of football–a game we really dig. Ya dig?”.

  35. psousa1 says: Jul 20, 2011 11:44 AM

    As a Pats fan I would not be surprised if Logan Mankins holds this up. He comes off as a condescending douche in every interview. He was not satisfied at being the 2nd highest paid guard in the league last year so he sat out 10 weeks. Lost all that $ (smart move!). Great run blocker but my lasting vision of him last year was the playoff game against the Jets where they sent every pass rusher over him and Dan Koppen. Willing to bet he holds it up.

  36. richsaint says: Jul 20, 2011 11:47 AM

    Not that it would matter at this point, but wouldnt it also admit that the representitives at the negotiations did not have full power to do a deal if the NFL PA then sent the deal back having not “Agreed” to it.

  37. southcakpanther says: Jul 20, 2011 11:50 AM

    this is like taking a huge, staisfying dump and then looking over to see there is no toilet paper

  38. southcakpanther says: Jul 20, 2011 11:51 AM

    meanwhile, the NFL and NFLPA are all pointing and laughing as we duck walk from stall to stall trying to find a roll

  39. rbirving says: Jul 20, 2011 11:53 AM

    I will be surprised if the players don’t accept the deal. I’ll be more surprised if there is no “heated” debate. We’re talking close to 2,000 men who are preparing to accept an agreement that will control their careers, why wouldn’t they debate it before they vote on it? I expect the same from the owners.

    While we have a hard time understanding that these people couldn’t figure out how to split a pie that big, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that the end result is a complicated document that all would want to understand before they agree to it.

  40. bigvinnyinjax says: Jul 20, 2011 12:20 PM

    How appropriate that De Smith and his band of morons are meeting in Washington DC – the Mecca of morons.

  41. mvp43 says: Jul 20, 2011 12:30 PM

    Pro-athletes & no brainers………one in the same.

  42. endzonezombie says: Jul 20, 2011 12:34 PM

    “That’s good, because most of them [ players]have no brains.”

    @realitypolice: Most of us who have had to read your pro-owner rants for the past few months are delighted that you, your brain, and your purpose have no further relevance. The players will soon get their fat paychecks, and you can go back to cleaning stadium toilets.

  43. crambow says: Jul 20, 2011 12:44 PM

    I like the Tiananmen Square analogy. All those “tanks” could not be parked in a more favorable position.

    Every turret housing economical uncertainty is the correct ammo to make the NFLPA wave their collective flags furiously.

    The owners, let’s hope, are not interested in advancing any further.

  44. dontcallmepete says: Jul 20, 2011 1:12 PM

    Last trip to this blog because it’s filled with fiction. Nobody has been trying to hold up any deal and what you reported yesterday (three players holding up deal) was pure fiction.

    You love to quote Mortensen but you didn’t last night when he said that there “was nothing” to media reports about three players holding out.

    If lawsuits were filed then they have to be settled before any agreement and it doesn’t just apply to pro football. You have a responsibility to be accurate if you report something as fact.

    Nothing, NOTHING written here can be assumed to be even moderately true. Loser blog.

  45. dontcallmepete says: Jul 20, 2011 1:16 PM

    In addition if you bothered to learn anything about the law you’d know one or two or five people could hold this settlement up. Any individual would have to continue to pay legal costs associated with the suit out of his own pocket.

    See anybody doing that?

  46. CKL says: Jul 20, 2011 1:17 PM

    Another consistently elitist poster heard from. What’s wrong with people who clean toilets? Are you saying those workers have no brains? Love the hypocrisy of the “we love the working class (butmantheyarestupidandnotworthyofactualrespectfromus)”guys.
    RP has NOT been pro owner AT ALL. He’s made many posts defending the players’ rights. You might actually know this if you weren’t trying to work your little agenda in.

  47. getitdoneplz says: Jul 20, 2011 2:14 PM

    De is caving and this smells of sellout like Upshaw did in ’92. De is secretive and wont tell player reps key components in conf call last friday. HE WAS PAID OFF. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE.

  48. PanchoHerreraFanClub says: Jul 20, 2011 3:12 PM

    Tell me again why the players should give up the right to get the most money for their services? The deal means that the player will have to vote to reform the union. How is that in their best interests?

  49. bucngator says: Jul 20, 2011 4:03 PM

    Wait just a damn minute here….. didn’t we read stories about how the players were pissed that “key people, capable of making a deal” weren’t available for negotiations?

    If they refuse to ratify, how is this any different?? Are you telling me that after all these months of negotiating, the players didn’t have the “key people, capable of making a deal” at the table?

    As I sit here, pondering buying season tickets for a team that plays 3000 miles away, making my NFL experience a three day week-end for every home game….. I’m getting a little pissed at myself, for even considering such a thing…..

    If there’s no deal this week……… I hope the owners make my decision for me, and shut-it-down…….

    ….let’s start over next year, with players that actually appreciate a few things, instead of the “entitled” players that we have now!!

  50. gdonz14 says: Jul 20, 2011 5:13 PM

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    As Trotted explained it, “[S]ome players feel they finally have leverage and want to use it.”
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    TRUE!
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    (If having “leverage” means relying on the fact that they’ll lose only $96 million for each week of the preseason that is canceled and that the owners will lose $104 million, then the players apparently have “leverage.”)
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    YES – THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. The players don’t get paid for preseason games. “Losing $96M” towards the overall pie does not impact the players in any tangible way. Only thing that effects them in their view is lost paychecks. Which is how they should view it. Owners lose a LOT more with lost preseason games. So in short – Yes, players have the leverage now.
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    Truth be told, there should be no debate. There should be no discussion. There should be no hesitation.
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    Wrong, wrong, and wrong. But nice try, Aiello Jr.

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