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Peyton Manning won’t be ready for the start of camp

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Peyton Manning has more to think about these days than antitrust litigation and a new contract.  He has to get healthy fast.

Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star reports that Manning will not be ready to fully participate in training camp when it opens because of neck surgery done earlier this offseason.

“A source familiar with Manning’s health situation said Tuesday that Manning will not be able to participate at the outset, and at this point, there’s no way of knowing how much time he might miss.  It could be a week. It could be a couple of weeks. Or even most, or all, of training camp,” Kravitz writes.

The Colts said they had “little or no worry” about Manning’s May surgery, but the Manning family has sung a different tune.  Archie Manning raised concerns about his rate of recovery in June, and Peyton said he has “no idea” when he’ll be ready a few weeks ago.

Apparently the Colts have a better idea now. After an offseason without OTAs or minicamps, Manning will miss more on field work.

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  1. fballguy says: Jul 20, 2011 8:30 AM

    I think Manning’s days of worrying about the franchise tag are over.

  2. wtfru2 says: Jul 20, 2011 8:32 AM

    No special benefits, no play…..

  3. tramonisland says: Jul 20, 2011 8:35 AM

    Curtis Painter to the rescue…. Lol

  4. kstoutdog says: Jul 20, 2011 8:39 AM

    If there is anyone in the NFL that can handle this situation… it’s #18. Peyton Manning is the man… period

  5. descendency says: Jul 20, 2011 8:41 AM

    So, he’s Brett Favre’ing it?

  6. benh999 says: Jul 20, 2011 8:44 AM

    Will he be well enough to participate in an Oreo dunk-off against Eli? He’ll have to do something to make up for the money he is losing by not getting a franchise tag exemption out of the Brady settlement.

  7. eaglesfootballfan says: Jul 20, 2011 8:45 AM

    This is a big problem for the Colts. After all the lost OTA’s and Minicamps, you need your starting QB as soon as the lockout is over. If I am the Colts, I would be worried.

  8. mightymightylafootball says: Jul 20, 2011 8:45 AM

    This ought to get interesting….

    Surgery + Slow Recovery + Missed Camp + New Contract Yet to be Signed + Special Treatment Rumors + Old + Very Talented + Crappy O-Line = DRAMA!

  9. coxandreweric says: Jul 20, 2011 8:45 AM

    It’s all lockout talk. Yadayadayada.

  10. tombradyswig says: Jul 20, 2011 8:46 AM

    PLUS he wants 22M a YR!!!!!!!

  11. mocheese1921 says: Jul 20, 2011 8:57 AM

    good i hope he misses some of the regular season.who is their backup qb? curtis painter?

  12. Matt-NC says: Jul 20, 2011 9:10 AM

    These “elite” level players always seem to schedule their surgeries so recovery will take them out of training camp.

    Does it suck that much? Seems to me you’d want to get the surgery done and be ready to go. I can see wanting some time after the season to rest and be with family before going right in for surgery. But May? Come on…. that’s to duck out of camp and everyone knows it.

  13. hydenja says: Jul 20, 2011 9:12 AM

    He’s starting to give me a pain in the neck..

  14. nflsucker says: Jul 20, 2011 9:22 AM

    I’ve been dying to see Air Painter show his amazing stuff.

    Peyton who?

  15. bigvinnyinjax says: Jul 20, 2011 9:23 AM

    Well at least he has that new clause where he can’t be traded, cut, franchised, sacked, or mocked by opposing linebackers.

    twitter.com/vincenthale

  16. sundayisthebestday says: Jul 20, 2011 9:23 AM

    Training camp or not, Manning will be ready for the season, and that’s what matters most.

  17. greenbaypeckers says: Jul 20, 2011 9:30 AM

    No worries, their great running game will save them.

  18. edwardosanchez says: Jul 20, 2011 9:30 AM

    How is his neck ever going to heal when it has to support that giant head?

  19. obsession55 says: Jul 20, 2011 9:30 AM

    @ eaglesfootballfan

    How is this a big problem?? Hes the best in the game, I dont see how missing a few practices will hurt anything

    @ mocheese1921

    He hasnt missed a game his whole career, you think hes gonna start now?? Get a freakin clue

  20. spt79 says: Jul 20, 2011 9:33 AM

    Plus he pulled a whammy backpedaling off his petty demands

  21. spt79 says: Jul 20, 2011 9:34 AM

    *hammy

  22. obsession55 says: Jul 20, 2011 9:34 AM

    Last time he had a minor injury that caused him to miss some training camp (2008) he went on to win MVP…yea i’m real concerned if I’m the Colts

  23. 1historian says: Jul 20, 2011 9:52 AM

    I am not a indy colts fan and never will be, but their fans better get used to life w/o peyton because when it starts they will be TOAST.

    I’m no fan of peyton but he is a GREAT quarterback.

  24. glac1 says: Jul 20, 2011 9:56 AM

    He’s one of the “elite” that will be marked by the common player if and when he returns after this fiasco during the lockout. Brady is another one…

  25. touchdownroddywhite says: Jul 20, 2011 9:56 AM

    @obsession55 – How is this a big problem?? Hes the best in the game, I dont see how missing a few practices will hurt anything

    _______________

    Remember when he whined about the possible removal of some of the off season workouts? He stated how Blair White never would have made last years contribution without the time he and Manning spent together playing catch. The timing will be off for the first few games of the year causing them a slow start and a few key losses during the season could result in no playoffs…

  26. jnbnet says: Jul 20, 2011 10:04 AM

    obsession55 says:
    Jul 20, 2011 9:30 AM
    @ eaglesfootballfan

    How is this a big problem?? Hes the best in the game, I dont see how missing a few practices will hurt anything

    @ mocheese1921

    He hasnt missed a game his whole career, you think hes gonna start now?? Get a freakin clue

    ==================================
    There is no doubt that he is one of the best, however he is getting older, and as anyone who is older can tell you, your body doesn’t handle it as well as when you are a twenty-something kid. And don’t forget, ALL football players are one play away from being on I R. Brady, who had not missed any games, went down in the first minutes of the season. It happens!

  27. Kaz says: Jul 20, 2011 10:07 AM

    Call it like it is Greg. A glorified holdout. Something tells me he will be fine when he signs a long term contract.

  28. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 10:16 AM

    It is hysterical that so many uneducated fans of the game would dislike Peyton Manning so much? If nothing else, the guy demands/deserves respect. He has never missed a game. He has never skipped training camp. He is always respectful to media and other players. He has never been arrested. He has done NOTHING but good for the NFL. I can understand hating a player that torches your team (this includes every team in the NFL in this case) because he beats you repeatedly, but the disliking of Peyton for any other reason doesn’t make sense if you are a true fan of football and the NFL. Not only does #18 hold most records for QB ALREADY but he does it with class and hard work ethic. Just man up and accept the fact that not only is he the best quarterback of his generation, but he completely revolutionized the quarterback position by calling his own offense at the line of scrimmage. Peyton Manning when it is all said and done will go down as the GREATEST QB TO EVER PLAY THE GAME. Numbers don’t lie folks. Time to accept it.

  29. jnbnet says: Jul 20, 2011 10:33 AM

    he completely revolutionized the quarterback position by calling his own offense at the line of scrimmage. Peyton Manning when it is all said and done will go down as the GREATEST QB TO EVER PLAY THE GAME. Numbers don’t lie folks. Time to accept it.

    =================================

    Many QBs called their own plays in the 70s and 80s….its nothing new. Payton is good….O K …he’s great, but Brady is still better.

  30. klunge says: Jul 20, 2011 10:36 AM

    The reason Manning doesn’t want the franchise tag is that unlike most other players, it’s a paycut for him. When you’re the highest paid player in the NFL, getting paid the average salary of the top 5 at your position is a reduction.

    This team needs to start planning for life w/o him, it’s going to be brutal but if they get going now maybe it won’t be so bad when the time comes. Giving him 20% of the entire cap has crippled their ability to bring in quality depth though. If he wants to leave, where will he go that won’t have to cut 25% of the current roster to make room for his salary demands?

    He needs to miss a few games so the team can properly evaluate all the holes they need to fill.

  31. raqaiw says: Jul 20, 2011 10:45 AM

    he completely revolutionized the quarterback position by calling his own offense at the line of scrimmage. Peyton Manning when it is all said and done will go down as the GREATEST QB TO EVER PLAY THE GAME. Numbers don’t lie folks. Time to accept it.
    _____________________________________

    @iuhoosierben

    Unitas revolutionized the QB position with the REAL Colts from Baltimore by doing this. Numbers don’t lie, you’re right, and the numbers say Peyton has as many Superbowl wins as Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, and little brother Eli. Compare that to 4 for Montana and Bradshaw, 3 for Aikman and Brady, and 2 for Rex Ryan. (Oh wait, Ryan only thought he’d win. My bad!)

  32. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 10:47 AM

    “This team needs to start planning for life w/o him”
    ……………………………………………………………………………..

    Disagree. Why? Peyton is arguably the least hit quarterback in the game. Yeah, he takes dives so he doesnt get hit, he is THE COLTS so I appreciate he does this. I imagine Peyton can play for 7 more years. We dont need a Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers fiasco in Indy so we have 2-3 years before we even have to draft the future quarterback.

    Speaking of Favre, a mobile quarterback who got hit a lot in his career played until he was 41 or so, so my estimate on Peyton another 7 years is very feasible…

  33. CKL says: Jul 20, 2011 10:51 AM

    jnbnet says:
    Jul 20, 2011 10:33 AM

    Many QBs called their own plays in the 70s and 80s….its nothing new. Payton is good….O K …he’s great, but Brady is still better.
    _________________________________
    Hahaha that Colt fan’s post was such fanboi drivel wasn’t it? I started laughing at HE’S ALWAYS RESPECTFUL TO OTHER PLAYERS.

    I respect his skill as a player but that’s all I respect about him. Players don’t have to be criminals to be worthy of dislike.

  34. DC Sports Radio says: Jul 20, 2011 10:55 AM

    Yea, but who will Peyton be playing for??

    http://dcsportsradio.com/2011/07/19/could-manning-be-a-redskin-or-cowboy/

  35. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 11:01 AM

    Winning Superbowls takes a great team. Peyton has very few GREAT teams. His job is to go out on the field and play the quarterback position as best as he possibly can. He traditionally has one of the worst defenses in the league (bottom half AT LEAST), his run support is average at best…

    Aikman had a star studded roster. Brady had the best coach in football history, and theihr defense knew what play was coming before it happened for the majority of those superbowl wins, and had great defenses during that stretch as well. Montana had the total package. If you want to compare apples to apples, compare the stats on all of these quarterbacks and you know exactly what you will find- Peyton Manning has played the quarterback position better than any quarterback in the history of the game, again numbers dont lie. Opinions are simply that, an opinion. Here are the numbers…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning

    Click that link and then click on records. Not to mention Peyton Manning is the only 4 time MVP in NFL history.

    AND if you really want to get technical, Manning’s playoff numbers are better than Brady’s too. Brady just had better teams, better coach, better defense. It’s simple folks

  36. backuppunter says: Jul 20, 2011 11:07 AM

    for the first time in 15 years the colts may have to play qb2 in a game that isn’t already decided and actually matters

  37. just4given says: Jul 20, 2011 11:21 AM

    It may be ploy, it me be not. While Peyton is the Colts only chance at respectability, he is not the same Peyton Manning he was a few years ago. Even in 2009, he walked away with an MVP trophy when a handful of others (Brees, Favre, Rodgers, Chris Johnson) had maredly better seasons. At that point – and into last year culminating in a playoff nightmare – it was becoming increasingly obvious that he has lost some mustard on the deep out.

  38. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 11:39 AM

    18-26 passing, completion % rate of nearly 70%, 225 yards 1 TD 0 INTs, QB rating of 108.7???

    Nightmare playoff game? what are you smoking?

    Rex Ryan played to not let Peyton beat them. Unfortunately, it worked, Peyton took what he was given and did what he had to do. Too bad his special teams gave up a 40+ yard return and then the defense allowed Sanchez to drive into field goal range for the game winning field goal, ALL IN UNDER 2 MINUTES.

    I guess Peyton should have got out there and played Middle Linebacker too…

  39. thebiblestudent says: Jul 20, 2011 11:42 AM

    @iuhoosierben

    Peyton has missed a training camp before. He held out as a rookie.

  40. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 11:43 AM

    If you want to look at nightmare season ending playoff QB performances…see every post season game Tom Brady has played in since 2008. Pretty sure he is 0-3 with a miserable QB rating. Facts are Facts.

  41. kom2k10 says: Jul 20, 2011 11:49 AM

    @just4given:

    What was the “playoff nightmare” last year. Manning played really well… had more passing yds against the Jets than any other QB in the post season.. He led the Colts to a game winning drive with 40 seconds left on the clock… His own coach had some terrible clock management and his defense couldn’t keep the jets off the scoreboard for the final 40 seconds… how is that an indicator of Mannings decline???

    When Brady led his team to a field goal to take the lead in the playoffs, he’s labeled as clutch and a great QB…. Peyton does the same exact thing but his coach, special teams, and defense blow it and now you’re saying he’s the bum?? I don’t get it…

  42. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 12:39 PM

    iuhoosierben – if he hasn’t had greats, it would be because of the defense not the offense……he has always had great offenses around him.

    ..but, if his “team” i.e. defenses hasn’t always been top notch…….guess why???…because all the money was going to him and his offense…….and guess what……IT HASNT WORKED

    If the Colts had a lesser QB….taken that money and shored up their defense, they might have more SBs……

  43. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 12:40 PM

    Most playoff games for Manning are nightmares…..especailly when he plays the Pats and Chargers…

  44. melikefootball says: Jul 20, 2011 12:43 PM

    Manning is starting to lose Daddy’s favorite title.

  45. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 12:50 PM

    kom2k10 – you are the typical Manning apologist……please. Manning has more often than not……FAILED his team in the playoffs….making excuses such as the coach screwed up or the defense let him down is TOTAL BUNK. Brady doesn’t use excuses, he comes through despite whatever.

    In fact, the only time Manning “came through” was the year his defense, which was one of the worst during the regular season, somehow became the best in the playoffs that year (the year they beat the Bears). If the defense had continued to play the way it did…it would have been the same thing…..

    So, who rose up that year……..THE DEFENSE!……not Manning

  46. 1historian says: Jul 20, 2011 1:30 PM

    jnbnet – add 1 to peyton’s number and you get the greatest ever. and he always called the plays – If the coach sent something in he he didn’t like he just ignored it.
    And he didn’t play inside either

  47. 1historian says: Jul 20, 2011 1:32 PM

    Manning has incredible stats but he has only 1 SB ring and he is below .500 in the playoffs.

  48. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 1:47 PM

    “kom2k10 – you are the typical Manning apologist……please. Manning has more often than not……FAILED his team in the playoffs….making excuses such as the coach screwed up or the defense let him down is TOTAL BUNK. Brady doesn’t use excuses, he comes through despite whatever.”

    Obviously, you did absolutely zero research before making this statement. Here are the facts:

    Brady’s Postseason in 18 total games he’s amassed 4108 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs and a 85.5 QB Rating.

    Meanwhile, Manning’s Postseason in 18 games has been 5164 yards, 28 TDs, 19 INTs, and a 87.5 QB Rating

    Manning on average throws for 60 more yards per game in playoffs as well. Now, everyone I know you are going to say but Brady has 3 rings and Peyton has 1. Patriots have had better teams. period. Better coach too. Vinatieri booted in two deep field goals to win those superbowls. Cant forget how they even made it to the first SB with the “Brady Tuck Rule”…Cmon Raiders fans where are you? That could have been the worst call I have ever seen in a playoff game.

    So in summary, Manning has FAR SUPERIOR regular season numbers, also has better post season numbers…is the picture becoming clearer yet? It should be…

  49. just4given says: Jul 20, 2011 2:08 PM

    iuhoosierben – playoff nightmare has been a career pattern for Manning – losing games. I don’t care what kind of numbers you put up, it’s all about the W’s and L’s. Ask Dan Marino.

    As for the skill decline, the deep out is long gone.
    Tell me that his 17 picks in ’09 justifies the MVP award over the other names I mentioned. I envision an even swifter decline now coming off an injury.

    He will certanly go down as one of the best of all time – but that time is rapidly coming to an end.

  50. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 2:09 PM

    Manning’s stats will become less relevant as more and more upcoming QB do the same…..it is already happened……Brady topping his TD record….others coming close to yards, etc

    Manning is just the first to take full advantage of today’s liberal rules

  51. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 2:19 PM

    @just4Given…

    The 4th MVP? I agree, some others may have been more deserving, if the Titans weren’t so awful CJ2K certainly should have won that MVP…

    I do not see the skills declining even a little bit. Deep out is certainly still in the bag of tricks. All Reggie has to do is run the route and extend his hands and the ball falls in them.

    I honestly believe he has another 6-7 years left, 5 at an EXTREMELY high level. By the time he is done, even if his averages drop a bit over the next 5-7 years, with at least 1 SB ring, he will have to be considered the greatest of all time based on what he has accomplished in his career. He is going to own EVERY record in the books. You don’t win SB by yourself. This isn’t golf. It’s football. He plays less than 45% of the game. The other 55+% the quarterback has no control over…

  52. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 2:21 PM

    Manning would have blown 50 TD’s away in the season he threw for 49 TDS. He sat out of multiple quarters that year when the Colts were blowing teams out. I think he actually sat out the last game or two with the playoffs locked and division in hand. That record is Brady’s but you might as well put an asterisk beside it…

  53. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 2:31 PM

    iuhoosierbenb – that is hilarious……..AND YOU THINK BRADY DIDNT DO THE SAME THING????????

    You really are a blind, dellusional homer with no sense of reality…..none……

  54. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 2:34 PM

    “You don’t win SB by yourself. This isn’t golf. It’s football. He plays less than 45% of the game. The other 55+% the quarterback has no control over…”

    LOL

    Oh, so his regular season wins are ALL his doing…the playoff losses have nothing to do with him……cracks me up……typical dumba$$ Indy fan!

    You know NOTHING about football…….

  55. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 2:36 PM

    you’re better off putting an asterisk beside manning…….he has had MORE talent on offense for an extended time than anyone in history.and what do the Colts have to show for it?…..1 SB win predicated on the defense……LOL

  56. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 2:37 PM

    Nope, he didn’t…the Pats went for the undefeated season, remember?

  57. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 2:48 PM

    Yes he did…….there were a number of games they were way up and he scaled back……if he was just looking to break the record…..he would have had more…..sorry

  58. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 2:50 PM

    quote me where I said anything about Peyton getting all the credit for regular season wins. I have been touting his accomplishments and ridiculously strong numbers…

    AND to elaborate, Brady didnt do the same thing at all. Pats were running up scores. Brady was throwing on the goaline all day. Peyton had Edgerrin rush for over 1,000 yards that year. Had significantly less pass attempts than Brady did on 2007. You are probably too stupid to realize any of this because you just don’t do any research, you just hate on Manning. You sound like a typical New York a$$hole…Probably a Jets fan or even worse a Pats fan who isnt from Boston….

  59. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 2:59 PM

    A recent questionaire was conducted by talking with the only 20 living Hall of Fame QB’s. Each vote counted as 1 point, with one voter saying he would take Brady in the 1st half and Manning in the 2nd half (by the way Mr. Clutch himself, Joe Montana, was the one who made this choice). This gave 1/2 of a point to each player. Long story short, the tally came to Manning 13.5 pts — Brady 2.5 points. Four QB’s abstained from voting on principal. All stats, championships, and technical mumbo jumbo aside, I’ll take the word of the greatest quarterbacks in history and go with Manning….hands down.

    So you know better than 20 Hall of Fame QB’s? Who is “dellusional”? Oh yeah, and you know how Brady is “Mr. Clutch”? LOL. Just so you know since you don’t know your football history at all, obviously, Manning holds the NFL Record for most game winning drives in the 4th quarter or OT in his career ALREADY! haha okay I will let you off the barrell I have you bent over now. Go play, loser…

  60. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 3:01 PM

    “Yes he did…….there were a number of games they were way up and he scaled back……if he was just looking to break the record…..he would have had more…..sorry”

    It’s common knowledge the Patriots were running up the score on teams. I personally didn’t have a problem with it though. It’s the NFL, its the defenses job to stop someone not the offenses.”

  61. kom2k10 says: Jul 20, 2011 3:28 PM

    I love the comparisons of 3 SB’s vs 1SB means that Brady is better… Really???

    So Bradshaw (4 rings) is better than Brady? Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson is better than Marino? Really??? I love that you guys just accept this simple philosophy as a no-brainer argument, and then when people actually start pulling up FACTS comapring the two QB’s, they are labled as “dillusional fans who know nothing about football”.

    Lets compare the Colts Postseaason TEAMs vs the Patriots Postseason TEAMs over their entire postseason careers…

    Better Rushing Yards Per Attempt? Patriots…
    Better Total Rushing Yards Per Game? Patriots…
    Better Rushing Yards allowed per attempt? Patriots..
    Better Total Rushing Yards allowed per game? Patriots…
    More Forced Turnovers by defense? Patriots…
    Less passing yards allowed by defense? Patriots…
    More Defensive 3 and Outs? Patriots…
    Better Yards per Punt? Patriots…
    Better Average Starting Field Position? Patriots…
    More possesions per game? Patriots…

    Benefit of Spygate? Patriots…
    Better Coach? Patriots…

    The ONLY time the stats start pointing in the Colts’ favor is when you look at QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!!

    Better Passing Yards Per Game? Colts/ Manning…
    Better Passing Yards Per Attempt? Colts/ Manning
    Better Passer Rating? Colts/ Manning
    More Touchdowns? Tied
    More INT’s? Manning/ Colts

    So, at the end of the day, Brady doesn’t “make excuses” because HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY!!! His Defense in the post-season has averaged giving up only 18 points per game! Manning’s defense has averaged almost 22 points per game!
    The ONLY area’s that the Colts have any meaningful advantage is QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!

    Manning is better than Brady… PERIOD!

  62. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 3:30 PM

    Yes, sometimes they did…..not every game…………..do you not think the Colts did the exact same thing????????

  63. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 3:36 PM

    “The ONLY area’s that the Colts have any meaningful advantage is QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!”…..now THAT is funny..and absurd…….it is well known and documented that manning had had superior talent on the offensive side of the ball……..when Brady FINALLY got an explosive receiver like that of Harrison or Wayne…..he bests Manning’s TD record…….give it up…….

    Yes, Brady had a few better defenses but thats because the Colts spend 65% of their cap money on offense…..do the Pats do that??? NO

    Manning just couldnt deliver…….sorry!

  64. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 3:38 PM

    iuhoosierben – why dont you also go look at the survey that manning landed on as one of the most over-rated players in the game…….

    People used to think Fouts was great…….now, not so much……..that future awaits Manning as well!

  65. iuhoosierben says: Jul 20, 2011 3:54 PM

    Are you suggesting that in the future people won’t think Manning was a great QB?

    You make yourself sound dumber and dumber with every post! Please, just stop embarrassing yourself…

  66. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 4:34 PM

    iuhoosierben – you unfortunately cannot do that…..you have reached your peak……

    go to Cold, hard Football facts and learn something…..your middling Indiana high-school education certainly isnt doing anything for you! LOL

  67. kom2k10 says: Jul 20, 2011 5:02 PM

    @golonger… please post that survey that shows Manning is overrated! Who voted on that survey? Some Jo-Shmo’s from New England?

    Actual experts overwhelmingly prefer Manning over Brady. So if Manning is overrated, then what does that make Brady??

  68. kom2k10 says: Jul 20, 2011 5:09 PM

    @golonger PLEASE tell me what special sets of talents does Manning’s offensive weapons have??

    His receivers aren’t very fast, they’re not very tall, they don’t have excellent hands…

    The reason is they are ALL successful is because they relying on timing and accuracy. It’s not a coincidence that ANYONE who plays with Manning, looks like a pro-bowler! Literally name 1 single WR that has played a signficant role in Manning’s offense that hasn’t produced. I’ll name all the ones that have produced below…

    Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Jacob Tamme, Blair White, Anthony Gonzales, Brandon Stoakley, Marcus Pollard…

    Really, EVERYONE of those guys are just flat out studs?? NO!

    ANYONE who plays any signficant snaps in his offense LOOKS like a pro-bowler. Brady can’t and doesn’t do that…

  69. kom2k10 says: Jul 20, 2011 5:15 PM

    @golonger

    You’re comment that “Brady had a few better defenses” is a COMPLETE understatment. When Brady was “Clutch” in the Post-Season, his defense was allowing just 16.9 points per game, while Mannings defense was averaging almost 22!

    In the most recent 5 Patriot Post-Season Games, the Pats are giving up 21 points per game and “Magically” Tom Brady now sucks and his post season record in those games is 2-3!!!

    Brady was NEVER clutch! He RODE his team to Superbowls. I’m not sayin he’s a bad QB… he’s actually a very good QB, but those were very dominating Patriot TEAMS. Brady threw for only 140 yds in the Superbowl and still won!

    Manning threw for over 330 Yards in 2009 Superbowl and lost! He only had 3 offensive possesions in the 2nd half!!!! Brady gets like 14 possesion per game to make something happen! Manning has to sit on the sideline and watch teams dink and dunk 5 yard passes and runs on his defense for 12 minute scoring drives…

  70. brintfatre says: Jul 20, 2011 7:22 PM

    He’s pulling a Favre!

    He’s creating a story line for John Gruden, Matt Millen, & other empty heads to talk about during games when he’s running up the score on the 0-15 Texans, the 2-13 Titans, and the 0-14 Jaguars…

  71. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 9:24 PM

    Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Jacob Tamme, Blair White, Anthony Gonzales, Brandon Stoakley, Marcus Pollard…

    Really, EVERYONE of those guys are just flat out studs?? NO!………….

    …..Gee….most people (and anyone that knew anything) would disagree…………

    Marvin Harrison was great…..he was great BEFORE Manning got there………..LOL……you are truly clueless……not surprising for a low-life loser Indy fan………..

  72. golonger says: Jul 20, 2011 9:26 PM

    please post that survey that shows Manning is overrated! Who voted on that survey? Some Jo-Shmo’s from New England? – it was in SI…….go look it up yourself loser…………..

    No, nobody said Brady was over-rated….sorry

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