Comments on: Goodell, Smith still in talks this morning http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 18 May 2013 15:10:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: tommyf15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135689 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:07:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135689 glac1 says:
Roger… get up and tell the NFLPA that they can take it or leave it, you have to know by 5pm today and walk out. Quit playing the union’s game. They have nobody but their leaders and league darlings at heart. They could care less about everyone else.

I like how Goodell is being addressedas if he’s actually logged onto this site, reading it, hoping to get some sage advice from one of the posters here.

]]> By: moochzilla http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135685 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:05:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135685 Goodell will be the ONLY one to suffer any lasting damage.

Not any of the owners.

Not any of the players.

He, sadly, owns this lockout.

]]> By: rooneyruleblues http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135609 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:34:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135609 The players made Goodell their bitch. The man lost much of his luster this offseason and respect. The players now have more power now then they ever had.

People need to realize that there are 4 owners in this game that control it. The rest have very little effect.

]]> By: glac1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135594 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:24:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135594 Roger… get up and tell the NFLPA that they can take it or leave it, you have to know by 5pm today and walk out. Quit playing the union’s game. They have nobody but their leaders and league darlings at heart. They could care less about everyone else.

]]> By: fballguy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135588 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:21:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135588 Everything the owners say has an optimistic tone…everything from the players has a pessimistic tone.

Screw the NFLPA*….Go get new players. Let Mankins and Jackson earn 100K in the CFL.

]]> By: tommyf15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135581 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:18:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135581 m2karateman says:
First off, the players are asking for money that they originally agreed they would not be entitled to via the previous CBA.

If it’s so simple and so cut and dry, why are the owners insisting the suit be dropped?

I seriously doubt there’s anything in the previous CBA that says “the players aren’t entitled to any damages from a future anti-trust suit”.

]]> By: tommyf15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135554 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:11:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135554 Kaz says:
Jul 21, 2011 11:44 AM
echoplex89 says:
Jul 21, 2011 11:40 AM
how much is a “majority” of 1,900?
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10. Cause all it takes is one person on the suit to not agree with the settlement offer.

The Owners Union can sign a new agreement without the suit being dropped. If they choose not to, hold them accountable for making that choice.

]]> By: tombradyswig http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135545 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:10:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135545 Great!!! Maybe Irsay can sing us a song about it!

]]> By: sj39 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135523 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:02:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135523 Every time I see a picture of those two I feel like I need a shower.

]]> By: m2karateman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135517 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:01:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135517 Rhode Island Patriots Fan says:
Jul 21, 2011 11:21 AM

Put yourself in the players’ shoes. Wouldn’t you feel that you should get something to settle your lawsuits, especially if the owners did not get you to agree up front that their offer of terms was explicitly contingent upon you dropping your legal claims? Be honest.

Unlike many, I respect what the players are doing here……….
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First off, the players are asking for money that they originally agreed they would not be entitled to via the previous CBA. So the fact is, they shouldn’t get something to settle their lawsuits, since now it is no longer about the league, but is instead about themselves. Unless they are fighting for every single player, the answer is NO. If they filed this lawsuit to get a new CBA forced, then their mission is accomplished and the suit should be dropped once their representative tells them the CBA is good.

That is why the folks on here and across the country don’t respect the players. It has gone beyond solidarity, and is now looking like individuality.

]]> By: jetsfan1234 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135513 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:57:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135513 echoplex89 says: Jul 21, 2011 11:40 AM

how much is a “majority” of 1,900?

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951!

]]> By: easyeddie http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135508 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:53:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135508 Rhode Island Patriots Fan says:
………”BOTH “parents” need to push just a little harder to make it happen.”
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Sorry but Mom Goodell and Pa D-Smith can’t push much at all right now as Uncle Jeff Kessler is holding this up on behalf of the two brats V-Jax and Mankins.

]]> By: oarangecrush http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135505 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:52:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135505 These guys need to hammer this out and skip lunch and dinner till it’s done! He’ll I skip lunch and dinner with only 15 employees counting on me and they also have fans! At least I think I’m still a fan. Hockey is looking pretty good again!

]]> By: firethorn1001 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135506 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:52:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135506 ‘Wouldn’t you feel that you should get something to settle your lawsuits, especially if the owners did not get you to agree up front that their offer of terms was explicitly contingent upon you dropping your legal claims? Be honest.’

Someone had to be on the lawsuit and I took the 10 just to be a mix of people representing various interests (high profile, near retirement, rookies) that decided to bring a lawsuit on behalf of the other 1,900. Unfortunately now it seems those people are wanting to cut their own little side deal.

I’m sure if the other 1890 people thought they could get a little sweeter deal, they would have put their names on the lawsuit too.

]]> By: berniemadoffsides http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135504 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:51:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135504 Terrence Cody gets two votes because of how huge he is… lol

]]> By: purpleman527 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135502 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:50:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135502 “I’m not into the prediction business and I’m not about to get into details, but their side knows what our deal is and, again, we know where they stand.”
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Well, that sounds encouraging.

In theory, we are on the cusp of a new deal based on “insiders” wild ass guesses (WAGS). But the guy who is in on the negotiations won’t say anything.

I wonder if De Smith is warming up his Finger?

]]> By: mook68 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135500 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:49:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135500 Yes. It would be devastating to be forced to accept the franchise tag. Those guys should be compensated for all of the heartache they have had to endure in making 10-15 million for one year.

]]> By: xinellum http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135495 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:44:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135495 The problem is that the lawyers for the NFLPA want to take this to the courts and are doing everything they can to subvert the process and convince enough player reps that they could make more in the long run by taking this to court. And, of course, at the same time, they will be making a big name for themselves. The negotiating team from both sides have said the deal was done and ready for a vote. The CBA was made based on the fact that all legal suits would be dropped. Then, when it got back to the lawyers, they stirred up the pot with the players by saying the CBA did not cover the lawsuits when their negotiators negotiated that away in the closed room. This is the deal, vote on it, if the NFLPA doesn’t pass it, then negotiations will start anew and at that time it is time for the owners to open the doors and those players who wish to drop the lawsuit and play can play, those who are holding out for a later pay day from the courts, can sit on the sideline, make no money and wait for the check in the mail. Good luck with that. If a couple greedy players want to ruin it for everyone, then so be it, but football should go on without them and teach them that time waits for no one.

]]> By: Kaz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135494 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:44:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135494 echoplex89 says:
Jul 21, 2011 11:40 AM
how much is a “majority” of 1,900?
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10. Cause all it takes is one person on the suit to not agree with the settlement offer.

]]> By: deadmanwalking47 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135491 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:40:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135491 the players are doing a great job of making themselves look like the bad guys here!

]]> By: echoplex89 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135490 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:40:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135490 how much is a “majority” of 1,900?

]]> By: Kaz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135488 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:38:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135488 benh999 says:
Jul 21, 2011 11:18 AM
Maybe I am missing something, but how can they vote on a document that is still being negotiated by Goodell and Smith as of this morning?
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Exactly. A key hint to the disappointment that is coming as people realize the lockout won’t be over tomorrow.

]]> By: clintonrb http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135487 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:38:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135487 so ill ask again, why didnt they get everything ironed out before the took it to vote?

]]> By: chatham10 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135481 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:33:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135481 The discussion are not about the CBA but they are deciding No. 1 Who gets the credit for getting this done, 2. What insider should get the credit for reporting the CBA is approved and 3. When can I quit getting only a $1 salary and Smith .67 cents.

]]> By: goldeelox http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135474 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:27:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135474 There’s been a lot of “locks” and “booking it” with little results during this fiasco.

]]> By: pastorinisflak http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135475 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:27:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135475 I put this comment in another post today and I though it would be a good idea to include it here in this post:

I know this may fall on blind eyes but I’m just going to say it. I love the NFL. I have loved the NFL since I was a kid. As a kid I owned 15 or 20 NFL Films VHS tapes and I would watch them over and over. Every aspect of the game is so interesting and captivating to me.

I love to watch America’s Game, I follow every team religiously, I watch NFL network all the time, I go to a couple of games every year even though I can’t really afford it, and I could probably name starters and back ups from every team going back to the 1950s. I have invested years of my life into the NFL and I have loved every minute of it but this lockout is making me sick. I understand that everyone should have a goal to maximize their potiential earning in their respective jobs but the rollercoaster ride that the owners and players are putting us on has got to stop.

I hope and pray this new CBA is agreed upon and ratified today or else the NFL will be losing a true fan.

]]> By: commentcentral http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135472 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:27:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135472 thumbs up: Mike Brown votes Yes for the new CBA.

thumbs downs: Mike Brown votes No for the new CBA.

]]> By: goodandfast http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135471 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:27:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135471 “Both sides know where they stand. Both sides continue to work very intensively, as we have for SEVERAL weeks…”

Ummmm since when does 18=several?

]]> By: lovesportsandsurfing http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135465 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:23:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135465 Those two are in talks?…ok, thanks for the bad news,..every time those two get together nothing good happens,…no NFL in 2011, thats a lock.

]]> By: birdcrazy911 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-smith-still-in-talks-this-morning/#comment-1135463 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:22:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140575#comment-1135463 BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! WE WANT FOOTBALL, NOT A BUNCH OF GIRL TALK!!!

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