Comments on: Report: De Smith tells player reps there is “no agreement” with NFL http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 00:48:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: bjb2865 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137740 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:43:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137740 LOL..I think its funny how alot of the responses say that they are done with it,and over it and dont care..lol. Nobody wants football back more than me,and this crap pisses me off to no end…But Im not over it nor am i done with the NFL….And neither are yall. Just as soon as the chains come off…your TV will pop right back on every sunday. Calm down everyone…..The deal will get done by at least the first week,and we will have football.

]]> By: buflo66 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137695 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:14:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137695 the saddest thing is the the players think they actually matter. The league recycles every 3-4 years. Look at your fantasy drafts from 3 years ago…half are gone. Players do not have the ability to see themselves as anything but players. But they mean nothing. The owners will be there for decades and decades as they have been.

Fans care about their teams and their current players. Does anyone care about Larry Johnson, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James, Rudi Johnson, Shaun Alexander??? They were elite 4 years ago, now they do not exist.

The league chews them up spits them out and fans cheer for the next guy. Out of sight out of mind.

]]> By: daveduz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137521 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:38:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137521 tramphand, i agree but like any company(business) the workers make the money for whom they work for. this is no different, except for the fact that they get well compensated for what they do. there are many other jobs out there that are far more dangerous than football. they don’t get paid millions, i’m sure they aren’t complaining about their jobs(mainly because they still have it.)

]]> By: tramphand http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137413 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:07:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137413 I would not trust the owners as far as i could kick them. Everyone bashing the players should try to put in two snaps in an NFL game. Get maimed or have your brain scrambled all for the sake of make owners like Jones even richer. The players and the players alone make this league, not the billionaire owners. You don’t tune in on Sunday to watch the owners sitting in there suites. Yeah lets put Scott Walker in charge you flippin nitwit. Most bashing the players I bet have no idea what the owner agreed to. Just shoot from the hip and bitch.

]]> By: tommyf15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137306 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:47:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137306 deadeye says:
What provision are you referring to? The revenue sharing provision?

How does that screw the players? Those details are to worked out among the owners, the players have no business trying to dictate how the revenue sharing will apply.

Are you sure about that, or are you just expressing your opinion on the way you think things should be?

I already know the answer- I followed the 2002 MLB labor strife closely (as I am this one) and it was universally reported that according to federal law that all revenue sharing amongst the teams was subject to collective bargaining with the MLBPA. MLB put several revenue-sharing plans before the MLBPA that were rejected before one was agreed upon.

deadeye says:
Quit being a pro-union shill and actually think about the fact that NFL franchises will remain afloat.

Dude, do you see how much money each of the 32 franchises bring in from national television revenue alone?

The last thing anyone has to worry about is an NFL team staying afloat.

]]> By: lostsok http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137282 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:44:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137282 OMG football fans are a bunch of childish WHINERS!

All of you.

“I’m so over it” “I’m done” “It’s all about me-me-me”

WAAAAAHHHHH

You people are pathetic!!!

]]> By: azpackerbacker http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137252 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:36:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137252 If I’m Goddell I threaten to do what Ronaldus Magnus did to the PATCO air traffic controllers back in the 80′s and terminate the contracts of all 1900 or so players for being in violation of the owner ratified agreement should they not accept this. Doubt he has any legal ground to so such a thing but still would be cool to see at this point

]]> By: daveduz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137186 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:24:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137186 well let me start off with i am a union man and i have just had a lot of sh*t taken from me by Mr. Christie. but i can’t agree with the players on this one. you can’t tell the owner of a business that you aren’t gonna work because you aren’t getting enough money, well let me rephrase that, you shouldn’t. Any normal american would be tossed to the curb due to the fact that unemployment is through the roof and thousands of people are looking for jobs. Players pull your heads outta your arses and realize that you are lucky to have what you do.

]]> By: ramsfanjoe http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137184 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:24:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137184 Talk about taking a sure victory and placing it in the jaws of defeat! De Smith is a Crook and he needs the agreement stuck where the sun don’t shine! Piss on the NFL!!!

]]> By: deadeye http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137177 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:23:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137177 “Apparently not. The owners pulled a dirty trick by adding provisions to the CBA that hadn’t even been discussed!”

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Yes I read the article. What provision are you referring to? The revenue sharing provision?

How does that screw the players? Those details are to worked out among the owners, the players have no business trying to dictate how the revenue sharing will apply. they get a certain percentage of the profits, as negotiated, and the owners get to do whatever they want to do with the rest.

Quit being a pro-union shill and actually think about the fact that NFL franchises will remain afloat. How is that a “dirty trick”?

]]> By: fatsack1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137171 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:22:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137171 owners slide things in at the last minute….if i was a player….i would not sign it either……

]]> By: brazilgt http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137078 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:05:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137078 As of five minutes ago per Mortensen on espn the players still have not received the final proposal. They received a summary. Would anyone on here honestly sign a long term contract without reading the final documents?

Positive is that the owners put a close to final draft on the table. Players will counter late tonight and we will have a deal very soon.

]]> By: heavyjumbo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137076 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:04:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137076 The owners made a play to garner public support and pressure the players into signing a deal that had all remaining unresolved issues decided by the owners. Judging by the comments here, their underhanded tactics to put public pressure on the players worked.

]]> By: pmars64 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137062 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:02:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137062 @ revolution22:

Yeah, you tell them! Time to start making the players and everyone else (including kids, but not the top elite) work for minimum wage, with no health benefits, no retirement, and 50% income taxes. And if they don’t like it, throw them in those for-profit jails that make Devil’s Island seem like a resort. Let’s make the world right again!

]]> By: jpmelon http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137044 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:59:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137044 I’d be happy watching scrubs play this year…..just knowing that the players are losing money is enough satisfaction for me at this point.

]]> By: moochzilla http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137040 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:59:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137040 What is the “supplemental revenue” part?

]]> By: footballnut2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1137016 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:52:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1137016 Can someone please just shoot this de bag smith A-HOLE. We don’t know what we are voting on…HUH… Four months is not enough time ?

]]> By: volder18 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136986 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:48:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136986 I wouldn’t piss on De smith if we was on fire…

]]> By: revolution22 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136942 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:41:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136942 Time to put Scott Walker in charge of this sh*t, and throw DeMaurice out on his @ss. Scott will fix this crap!

]]> By: halftermguv http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136939 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:41:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136939 Hey DE Smith, cancel 2011 and 2012 and see where your players are at….begging on street corners with their hat in hand.

I’ll never buy another piece of NFL merchadise again. Worthless one-trick-ponies!

]]> By: chucka2 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136931 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:39:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136931 You know, I have been a fan for quite a few years, since 1963 to be exact. But I think I have reached my limit with these players. My God, they should remember how tough things are right now and better hope they don’t loose this season. If they don’t get going pretty darn soon, I am done and I am pretty sure I won’t be the only one!

Chuck A

]]> By: eaglesfanxx http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136925 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:38:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136925 The players are completely unorganized. The lack of communication between the players and the NFLPA is ridiculous.

The players need a few days to process this information because A) they’re stupid and B) they’re not very adept at communicating.

This is a complete joke.

The players are getting killed in the PR battle.

]]> By: jeff061 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136918 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:35:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136918 Old tactic to make yourself look good “No deal, but I’m working hard on your behalf to make this work”

D. Smith and the players are ridiculous – have had it with all their bs

]]> By: rando74 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136916 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:35:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136916 Please. The players have basically gotten the owners to finally budge and now they are thinking about what else they can get.. The owners are waaaaaay to clsoe to preseason and all its monetary value. The players are just posturing because they dont want to play pre season games and they are gonna stretch it out as long as they can until they get jsut a little bit more money. Its just a staring contest now. Someone better blink quick.

]]> By: killxswitch http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136913 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:34:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136913 Someone read threefold520′s post. The owners are now also negotiating in bad faith. This is not just the players’ fault. They probably didn’t vote yesterday because they were reviewing the new crap the owners tried to sneak into the proposed deal.

]]> By: jesse1834 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136902 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:30:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136902 Booooo!!!!!!

]]> By: tommyf15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136899 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:29:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136899 Do the pro-owner drones even read the articles here before whining about the players?

Apparently not. The owners pulled a dirty trick by adding provisions to the CBA that hadn’t even been discussed!

God, the owners can get away with literally anything with some of the sheep that post here.

]]> By: vargafamily1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136898 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:29:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136898 This is an awesome power play by the owners. Ratify a new deal and throw it back to the players. Pure genius if you ask me. I have a feeling this is going to get a lot worse. At least the owners have the public on their side.

]]> By: rugdog100 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136894 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:29:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136894 The owners should just start fresh. Screw the NFLPA*************************** and start over. The players can use their “part-time” college education in nothing and join the American workforce. Note to players: The economy sucks, so you’re probably looking at Mc Donalds or WalMart. Try buying bling bling on minimum wage.

]]> By: whathappenedtovox http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/#comment-1136892 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:29:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=140724#comment-1136892 People… the owners voted on stuff the players never agreed to. I can vote right now that I get a free motorboat, but I’m not going to get it. The owners’ vote was nothing more than a PR move, period. Be mad at the players all you want, but it’s the owners here that just told you that you were going to Disney World but instead took you to the dentist.

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