Source: NFLPA* remains optimistic a deal can be reached

AP

Despite a pair of sphincter-tightening e-mails that are making the rounds in the wake of the NFL’s decision to agree . . . with itself regarding a new labor deal, which has sparked a potential pissing match between the players and the owners, a high-ranking NFLPA* official expressed optimism that the situation will be resolved.

That said, the belief within the NFLPA* is that the owners shouldn’t have done what they did.

Meanwhile, it would be wise for the NFL to not let general counsel Jeff Pash (pictured) talk publicly until this matter is signed, sealed, and delivered.  The players don’t like Pash, and even if he’s saying exactly what the players need to hear, they don’t want to hear it from him.

47 responses to “Source: NFLPA* remains optimistic a deal can be reached

  1. screw it…cancel the season and let these d bags suffer…I’m over this crap…i officially hate the nflpa and the players it represents…

  2. If a deal isn’t reached soon, I want all this nonsense to end. Bring on the scrubs because one thing stands clear: Either the players or the people who represent them have not been acting in good faith. I was firmly on the players’ side, but now it seems as though they have been lying all this time.

    So I say, bring on the scrubs. I want to watch some football. And I’m tired of all the prima donnas like Chester Pitts trying to throw cold water on everything. Kick out all the “stars” and let people who are truly hungry for it play.

  3. It’s on, it’s off!

    It’s on, it’s off!

    It’s on, it’s off.

    I must be a sadomasochist to keep reading this site.

  4. Look at the list of player reps. A large number of them are at the end of their careers or in danger of being replaced this year. A short training camp would make it easier for them to keep their jobs for one more year.

  5. I am a HUGE NFL fan. If this does not go down due to the NFLPA, I swear I will boycott the NFL until this group of players are out of the league.
    I’ll focus my attention on MLB.

    This has been enough of a strain on my nervous system.

  6. The PFT collective EKG meter must really be something over this last hour, or so.

    …and somewhere Al Davis sits blissfully unaware of the whole ordeal. He wouldn’t have voted, even if he had known about the lockout. The NFL wasn’t going to agree to his free daily facelift demands.

  7. Y’all know what???

    Somebody needs a good ASS whuppin’! I wouldn’t be surprised of all other fans feel like beating all their asses…and yes I said ASSES on this site… KISS MY ASS! I’M PISSED…just like every other fan is!

  8. The players could have voted Wednesday. They didn’t. They could have voted this morning. They didn’t.

    Now the NFL votes on and sends them the offer they collectively worked on, and De Smith pulls this? The players are scuzzy in all this, plain and simple. They have been since Day1 with their sham of a lockout. I don’t see how anyone can support them.

  9. regardless, the ball is in the Players court now. Unless they want to look like the jack@$$ and be the ones responsible for postponing the season because they are being even more greedy. It’s time for the them to shut up and put pen to paper and say yes, we will agree to this!

  10. Vincent Jackson is the one causing the problem right now. All the other plaintiffs are happy with the deal.

  11. “Meanwhile, it would be wise for the NFL to not let general counsel Jeff Pash (pictured) talk publicly until this matter is signed, sealed, and delivered. The players don’t like Pash, and even if he’s saying exactly what the players need to hear, they don’t want to hear it from him.”

    Yea that seems like a good idea. I doubt his little joke with Batterman about if you even except that the union could decerify went over well with any of the players. I have no stake in this I wanted to smack that dumb smirk off his face. I can only imagine what the players want to do after having to listen to this wiesel for the last 100+ days.

  12. I completely trust Jerry Richardson (Panthers owner who is huge in the negotiations), and Sal Paolantonio just reported that he asked Richardson about it off camera and Richardson was, “baffled.”

    Is it D.Smith or the stupid lawyer?!?

    I WANT FOOTBALL!!!

  13. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

    “That said, the belief within the NFLPA* is that the owners shouldn’t have done what they did.

    Meanwhile, it would be wise for the NFL to not let general counsel Jeff Pash (pictured) talk publicly until this matter is signed, sealed, and delivered. The players don’t like Pash, and even if he’s saying exactly what the players need to hear, they don’t want to hear it from him.”

    Thats been the problem all along with the players, everyone tells them what they need to hear. God forbid someone upset the poor, poor players. They should be handled with kid gloves right! F*&^ that. This is exactly what should have happened!

  14. I REPEAT… The owners should just start fresh. Screw the NFLPA*************************** and start over. The players can use their “part-time” college education in nothing and join the American workforce. Note to players: The economy sucks, so you’re probably looking at Mc Donalds or WalMart. Try buying bling bling on minimum wage.

  15. I was a HUGE baseball fan up until the 95 (?) strike. Since then, I watched maybe a dozen games on TV and haven’t watched a game in person or bought any apparel.

    With College Football on some Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, I think I can make it without the NFL. Sure, the NFL won’t miss my money. But they better hope there aren’t more fans like me.

  16. Am I understanding this right that the owners sent a proposal that was different than what the players negotiated with them? So both sides are now negotiating in incredibly bad faith? Screw them both. Ugh.

  17. Why should anyone give a crap what the players think or how the feel any more?They’re living their dreams and being compensated quite well for it and yet they don’t seem to smart enough to realize how they’re ruining it for themselves.
    “Optimistic”, my ass. You don’t deserve the support of the fans — you know, the one’s who make it possible to have the lives that you do.

  18. People’s reading comprehension needs to improve. This one isn’t on the players, the owners ratified an agreement that had terms they hadn’t negotiated with the players. A simple example of this would be I agree to see you an apple for 2 dollars and when you give me a five dollar bill I only give you a dollar in change.

    The owners are trying to slip a last second change under the players noses. I bet all of the people complaining about the players taking the time to read the agreement before signing it feel a little silly right now.

  19. It was smart for the owners to pass the deal and put pressure on the players now . That way they come out looking alot better eventhough they are the ones who locked out the players . BRILLIANT and shows why they make the money .

  20. dapell says:
    Jul 21, 2011 8:28 PM
    The players could have voted Wednesday. They didn’t. They could have voted this morning. They didn’t.

    Now the NFL votes on and sends them the offer they collectively worked on, and De Smith pulls this? The players are scuzzy in all this, plain and simple. They have been since Day1 with their sham of a lockout. I don’t see how anyone can support them.
    ===================
    Guess you haven’t read many of the other articles on here.

    The “agreement” the owners approved included significant items that were never collectively bargained.

    It was a last second maneuver to try and get something extra at the last second while appearing to be the party to most want a deal because they ratified the “agreement” first.

    Never mind that it wasn’t the agreement they had worked out with the players.

  21. Someone somewhere up at the top of the *NFLPA has no idea what they’re doing, that’s for sure.

    De Smith was on the phone with Goodell for what, 2 hours? Now he comes out and says that there was no deal.

    Just what has been going on? What have you been talking about for months? What did you talk about for the past 2 hours? Someone needs to answer. We need to get these guys in the same place at the same time and ask them both the same questions.

  22. Please actually read the reports. What the NFL voted on today was not negotiated with the players. It was their own proposal, and the players hadn’t even seen it yet.

  23. I am SO over my love of the NFL. When the MLB players went on strike in ’94 I swore that I’d never spend another moment of my time watching/caring about anything MLB related. I have now reached that point with this management vs labor “cluster f#@k”. A pox on both of their houses. Can’t wait for hockey season.

  24. this question of whether or not the players should vote is crazy…the owners wouldn’t ‘ratify’ a deal unless the respective councils have agreed upon a deal ?? The NFLPA is acting very irresponsibly as representatives of the players. At this point, they should be going to the players and saying…”Hey, this is what we’ve been working on for the last 2 yrs and we recommend that you ratify it… If they suddenly come up with more issues, what does that say about De Smith & co. as negotiators for their players ?? I certainly don’t understand the problem here. The responsibility of the reps is now to sell the contract on the floor, not suddenly take on more issues that should have already been addressed.

    The terms and procedures of re-shamification, er I mean re-certification of the NFLPA should be in place…shame on you again, De Smith if it’s not…

  25. “nce11
    Jul 21, 2011 8:39 PM

    People’s reading comprehension needs to improve. This one isn’t on the players, the owners ratified an agreement that had terms they hadn’t negotiated with the players. A simple example of this would be I agree to see you an apple for 2 dollars and when you give me a five dollar bill I only give you a dollar in change.

    The owners are trying to slip a last second change under the players noses. I bet all of the people complaining about the players taking the time to read the agreement before signing it feel a little silly right now.”

    Where’d you get this info ?? What have they been negotiating over the last 2 yrs if not the deal that is on the table at this point ? What, specifically, is in this agreement that the NFLPA hasn’t been involved in ?? My reading comprehension is fine…I see irresponsible leadership by De Smith if, there is in fact, things in this ‘agreement’ that have not been negotiated. So tell us ? Where’s the disconnect ??

    How inept is De Smith if he hasn’t been keeping his constiuents updated ??

  26. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are.

    Are you telling me that if you had a handshake agreement on a new contract with your boss, but the contract he actually sent you to sign had a bunch of stuff in it you had never even discussed, you would sign it?

    If you say yes, you are either a liar or an idiot.

    The players tried their last second power play, and it failed. Now the owners are trying their last second power play, and it will fail too.

    No worries, the players will get an acceptable contract that they will ratify shortly.

  27. “rugdog100 says: Try buying bling bling on minimum wage.”

    Dude…1995 called…it’s wants its slang back!

  28. It is hard to say who is telling the truth here. It is all hearsay at best.

    It could be a ploy by the players to say that owners put things in there to hold up the process and force them to cancel games to teach them a lesson, or the owners totally added in things after the fact to put the try to catch the players napping. If the players did that they are scum. It the owners did that they are scum.

  29. larryfinfan says:
    Jul 21, 2011 9:03 PM

    …What have they been negotiating over the last 2 yrs if not the deal that is on the table at this point ?…

    That’s the whole point. What the players are claiming is that the deal they’ve been working on isn’t the deal the owners actaully signed and sent to the players.

  30. nola4eva says: Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM

    Y’all know what???

    Somebody needs a good ASS whuppin’! I wouldn’t be surprised of all other fans feel like beating all their asses…and yes I said ASSES on this site… KISS MY ASS! I’M PISSED…just like every other fan is!

    LMAO @ That. Greed . Amen to that Nola

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