I understand when people say things like “resturants can’t get together and decide to all pay cooks minimum wage.” I also understand that under current law this applies to sports leagues too.

But I believe the application of the law is stupid because Chilli’s does not need Applebee’s to do well to have max profits, where the Colts are better off when the Texans do well too.

Is it a law that should be changed?

“Half the people on this site seem to be nothing more than gun toting tea party D*** sucking, Sarah Palin day dreaming, Reatards. Get a life folks. Oh and watch another news channel other than fox. you morons.”

1) Franchise Tag only once in a players career.
Solution: Allow them a franchise tag only once in their career PER TEAM.

2) $300 Million in benefits.
Don’t give it to them. They had years to prepare. Both sides did. Now the players want to penalize the owners for doing it better?

Besides, it was recently revealed the players had insurance as well…it just doesn’t kick in until they miss games. And that’s the problem they’re having. They want money. It’s all about the money.

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Now here’s the biggest issue I have….all the players talk about taking care of past players…where in the deal do those retired players get increased coverage? Where is the lifetime medical?

The players keep telling us it’s not about the money…but take a good look…it’s all about the cash.

These players are out of control.

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And pray tell – what are the Players really crying about?

Hacksaw Lee Hamilton (AM 1090, http://www.xxsportsradio.com, ) gave a good summary yesterday of what the Players will receive under the new – 10 year CBA – and here is what they are gaining (as best as I can remember).

(1) While the number of 48% of the Revenue is used for the players rake (v. their current 50+%) – it’s 48% of all the Revenue – without taking a Billion off the top – and it includes the largess from sky boxes, etc. Moreover – the $9.5 Billion annual revenue is expected to grow significantly – thanks to the good management of the Owners.

(2) Players now will wear skirts to all but one practice during the week – as they will only have to hit once a week – other than in games. (Coaches have to just love that one eh?) And then no hitting in practice the last month of the season, or some such.

(3) No hitting during the second practice of two a days either (Oh – where oh where has the tough camp mentality gone – as Vince Lombardi surely must be spinning in his grave) – and the players get a new vacation – from Feb to May – as there will be no voluntary (read – semi-mandatory) workouts.

(4) Health Insurance/benefits have increased for not only active players – but also for the retired players. And if they have a serious injury – they can collect a cool Million the next year and also something thereafter.

(5) Players can also reasonably buy into insurance plans after they retire.

(6) Rookies – whom the current NFLPA greatly envy wrt their huge contracts – will sign for about half as much – and the savings will be applied to the retired players health/benefits coverage.

(7) $120 million salary cap per team – and teams have to spend 99% of cap, unlike the current what – 80% or some such?.

OK – there were some other benefits for players too – but you hopefully get the idea.

It wouldn’t be $4B if the season was played.

If the season was cancelled the players could claim actual losses of $4 Billion (trebled to $12B) since they would have actually lost $4B in wages thanks to the lockout.

If only Vince Jackson continues the suit his damages would be far less than that, but still sizable- possibly $70 Million or so.

You & the other Obama lovers need to stick to the political websites you jerkoff!!

Obama will be gone during next years NFL season & hopefully you & your lib posting pals as well!

This is pro football talk web page… not I’m a loser lib who drank the koolaide web page!!!

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What’s your excuse now? We need more time? Over 36 hours later……we still need more time, my reading comprehension skills aren’t good……..Oh, those dirty owners made us look back. How can I create “A Kessler” and screw this thing up. The NFL Owners caught us with our pants down. Not prepared, we’ll show those owners….who’s boss. We’re going to be “The Problem”, not “the Problem Solver” -the solution makers. Yeah, yeah…..The Public is behind us, everybody makes over $300,000 per year like us “NFL Players”

This a reminder. Wake up and smell the coffee. NFL Players, you got FREE AGENCY after 4 YEARS, WOW! Or at worse, after 5 YEARS if you’re a first round rookie pick. Once again, WOW! IMPROVED HEALTHCARE CARE and PENSION BENEFITS. Ask how many AMERICAN workers got those benefits this year in their employment. ONCE AGAIN, WOW.

I’m public safety worker who been exposed to TB virus, and suffered multiple injuries while saving lives. You’re talk is not cuttin with me anymore……. the B.S. is enough now.

NFLPA, JUST SAY IT AIN’T SO…………. You’re the part of the solution, not the problem……. But, right now, you are problem…….. the ball is in your court. “Be a Player, not a hater.”

Hold out for a “no Vick” clause!

Cancel the 2011 season, let the Brady anti-trust lawsuit proceed and end this crap once and for all.

No more draft, no more revenue sharing among teams. Every team negotiates it’s own radio, television and beer sponsorship deals. Every player is a free agent and can play anywhere he wants to, just like the rest of working America.

A wise man once said: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

PLAYERS:Please think about your new future if this should happen.

I think that’s basically extortion. The TV Revenue case never should’ve been heard by Doty (who was an automatic for the union no matter what) becuase the union agreed to a special master who ruled against them. Only then did they go crying to Doty. What’s the purpose of the special master if the union goes crying to daddy every time a ruling goes against them?

The union does not deserve a dime.

Wait a minute… The Brady anti-trust case continues and is to be separately settled?! The owners agreed to THAT! Isn’t that the one with potential triple damages that could be up to $4B? How could the owners possibly agree to that?

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That makes no sense to me either. I call bull because as soon as the union is reconstituted the case is done. There can be no antitrust case with a union.

Half the people on this site seem to be nothing more than gun toting tea party D*** sucking, Sarah Palin day dreaming, Reatards. Get a life folks. Oh and watch another news channel other than fox. you morons.

They mean the exact terms of the settlement aren’t known. Not the case goes on separately from the CBA. Unless and until all the suits are settled and the union recertifies the lockout will not be lifted. They may for the sake of time start some business, like negotiating deals, contact with coaches/players, but they will not finalize any deals, practice at all, or play any games until all of that is finalized.

Ten issues out of a 2,000 pg agreement is pretty minimal. They agreed to the major issues, like revenue split, salary cap, floor, free agency rules, health insurance, rookie wage scale, etc etc.

Other pft geniuses:

Ok let’s have the players vote on a non-unionized basis on a collectively bargained agreement. Collective bargaining, taken quite literally, means terms collectively agreed to by a union. You can’t have a collective bargaining agreement with individuals, only a union. Agreeing to a deal with anything other than the entire body of employees (the union) means that every player not subject to the CBA by unionization can individually sue the league for anti-trust laws (32 separate employers cannot come together on across the industry rules for every employee. Imagine every restaurant collectively saying were paying all cooks minimum wage. That’s illegal) so bottom line it’s all or nothing. Unless the union represents every player and agree to a deal as a whole we will have a free market system, same as baseball.

1. No!
2. No!
3. No!
4. No!
5. No!
6. No!
7. No!
8. No!
9. No!
10. No!

Wow, these players want it set up so they don’t have to work out anymore so they won’t have to EARN their millions of dollars. The owners have given in on almost EVERY holdup to this point, it’s time for the players to give in on some of their issues… If the players really want to “Just play football”, then sign the deal!

That 48% was the original offer from the owners. The players caved after the 8th circuit court rulling. Basically, this was about money. The players are accepting a 10% reduction (from 58% to 48%) of total revenue. This was the owners original offer that the players were so disgusted with.

The rest is trinkets. D Smith and the Union are just trying to save face by asking for everything else they can get (which is basically nothing compared to the 10% loss of total revenue).

So the owners won. D Smith will go down as an embarrasemnet to the NFLPA. They can’t ask for trinkets? What more do you want?

Just saying – if I was the owners counsel and I have been around the block a couple of times.

And une plus – the Exec Committee/Player reps are afraid to let the players vote as the rank and file would jump at this deal.

Somebody please get the NFL and NFLPA* reps a dictionary so they can look up the word “close”; as in “we appear to be close to a deal being completed”.

Also, with ten items still open, somebody please remind me exactly what had been agreed to after these last 3+ months of negotiations. Doesn’t seem like any.