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Victim alleges she was drugged, impregnated by Perrish Cox

Perrish Cox

Months after Broncos cornerback Perrish Cox was arrested for rape, details regarding the charges have emerged.

According to Carlos Illescas of the Denver Post, the alleged victim claims she was drugged and raped by Cox on September 6.  The alleged victim has since had a child, and DNA tests confirmed that Cox is the father.

The alleged victim reportedly told police she consumed roughly four drinks on the evening of September 5 and into September 6, and that she believed she’d been drugged because she passed out at Cox’s apartment.

She claims that Broncos receiver Demaryius Thomas and Broncos cornerback Cassius Vaughan were present.  The alleged victim reportedly recalls kissing and being fondled by Thomas, who claims he left Cox’s apartment after the alleged victim passed out.

Cox is charged with sexual assault while the victim was physically helpless and sexual assault while the victim was incapable of determining the nature of the conduct, and he faces two years to life in prison.

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  1. deadeye says: Jul 22, 2011 4:59 PM

    This will force me to adjust my Fantasy football Big Board.

  2. cantonbound13 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:00 PM

    See what happens when overpaid, lazy athletes have time off?

  3. rayvens says: Jul 22, 2011 5:01 PM

    This is truely sad……

  4. albanyhawker says: Jul 22, 2011 5:02 PM

    well, with a name like Cox, what can you expect??!!

  5. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:03 PM

    What kind of simp traps a woman like this? Taking Biggie’s lyrics too literally (“Big Poppa”)

  6. greenbay4ever says: Jul 22, 2011 5:04 PM

    Not surprising. Doesn’t seem to be out of the norm for NFL players.

  7. jdnales says: Jul 22, 2011 5:04 PM

    Perrish should keep his Cox to himself

  8. bearskoolaid1985 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:05 PM

    I guess that if you get her waisted enough she can’t say NO
    What a tool I VOTE LIFE.

  9. mike83ri says: Jul 22, 2011 5:05 PM

    She may want to reconsider how to play her hand here. Putting the guy in jail instead of letting him play will change her baby momma child support income dramatically.

  10. everydayimfumbilin says: Jul 22, 2011 5:06 PM

    who cares?

  11. tv426 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM

    This seems more suited for Cincy!

  12. 2sloweggroll says: Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM

    eggplant

  13. smartbutlazy says: Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM

    Gonna be kinda hard to claim it was consensual if D.Thomas is admitting that she was out-cold when he left her alone with P.Cox.

  14. pdxpanther says: Jul 22, 2011 5:09 PM

    @deadeye,

    that made me lul

  15. daudi88 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:09 PM

    Wow! I get to say it twice in one day, “Playmakers was a totally over the top, inaccurate portrayal of the NFL.”

  16. awestcave says: Jul 22, 2011 5:10 PM

    NFLPA, GIVE THIS MAN MORE MONEY!

  17. shieldsisland37 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:10 PM

    life in jail is too good for a dirtbag like this

  18. 2sloweggroll says: Jul 22, 2011 5:11 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Jul 22, 2011 5:03 PM
    What kind of simp traps a woman like this? Taking Biggie’s lyrics too literally (“Big Poppa”)

    …. Simp? What is this the Bay Area circa 1992?

  19. jjrs89 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:12 PM

    There should be

  20. t16rich says: Jul 22, 2011 5:17 PM

    Roger Goodell has sentenced Perrish Cox and Demariyus Thomas to one hour in a bathroom with Ben Roethlisberger.

  21. bjbroderick says: Jul 22, 2011 5:19 PM

    I wonder if there is any relation to Patrick R. Cox from TaxMasters. He’ll solve your IRS problems. Not so sure about your rape problems, though.

  22. phillyrick22 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:22 PM

    this is just a damn shame, you would think with all the money this dude makes he could have hired an escort, hooker or stripper… Just plain sad… I feel bad for the victim, and I hope that the law truly punishes this man.

  23. rando74 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:23 PM

    He wont go to jail. Once she realizes jail dont pay a starting CB s–t, shes gonna make sure he gets to play.

  24. greenbaypackerbacker says: Jul 22, 2011 5:26 PM

    Why put him in jail? that just drains on tax payers etc. etc. tec….

    Remove his Cox so he is just plain old Parrish!!!

    Let him play football…

    Its a win-win scenario! No one has to adjust their fantasy draft boards, he can’t repeat his actions being just plain Parrish!, and he pays her tons of child support from his football salary.

    solved!

  25. wetpaperbag2 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:26 PM

    The Denver Broncos will remain in the cellar of the AFC West for a second year straight: going back to re-learn how to run the ball because they can’t win games, will be starting “The Messiah” at QB, and now will likely be without real depth at the corner position behind an aging/ailing Champ Bailey.

    LOL!

  26. favrelous says: Jul 22, 2011 5:26 PM

    Innocent unil proven guilty.

    I can’t imagine a girl participating in a gang bang would later feel bad that were no second dates.

  27. scoob766 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:28 PM

    I love how everybody jumps on the broncos players before hearing the facts. She remember kissing and being fondled but forgot making the deal? That’s interesting, she might be right but he might not have raped her too. Did they find traces of any drugs?

  28. trbowman says: Jul 22, 2011 5:30 PM

    how do you face TWO years to LIFE in prison?

    law just makes no sense to me.

  29. bigwhitey says: Jul 22, 2011 5:37 PM

    Wait. Where was Mike Tyson when this happened?

  30. themightyraven says: Jul 22, 2011 5:43 PM

    Ray Lewis Was Right!!!

  31. coleman121280 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:45 PM

    So let me get this straight. She waited how long to press charges? And now that I imagine he is strapped for cash b/c of the lockout = she’s strapped for cash b/c of the lockout…

    Lets press rape charges and get the ball rolling for those ends she figures…

    INNOCENT UNTILL “PROVEN” GUILTY!!!

  32. asublimeday says: Jul 22, 2011 5:45 PM

    Two years to life? Well, at least that isn’t an absurdly vague range.

  33. descendency says: Jul 22, 2011 5:45 PM

    I guess she got more Cox than she wanted…

  34. hobartbaker says: Jul 22, 2011 5:46 PM

    Perrish going DOWN. Hate to see Bey Bey Thomas involved, he seems above that. I’m sure he probably is. I think Cox had three kids before he left college. No wives though.

  35. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 22, 2011 5:47 PM

    “sexual assault while the victim was incapable of determining the nature of the conduct, and he faces two years to life in prison.”

    Too bad for him he didn’t do it in Georgia. They’ve never even heard of that law there.

    Although he is black so they probably could have gotten him for something else.

  36. wyobroncoboy says: Jul 22, 2011 5:47 PM

    There was reason the Broncos were able to draft Cox at such a low round. (Know to be an A-hole in the past). Every time the Broncos “Take a chance” their a-hole gets bit bigger.

  37. boknowsvt says: Jul 22, 2011 5:48 PM

    Is the lockout over? Did this guy get traded to the Bengals.

  38. jamie54 says: Jul 22, 2011 5:52 PM

    Dummies cantonbound13 and themightyraven, this happened LAST September 5/6 right when the year started not in the offseason. Some people don’t even read the story and feel they have to comment. Just plain stupid.

  39. rickditka says: Jul 22, 2011 5:56 PM

    the victim is the child. pig mother, criminal father. that’s some DNA.

  40. descendency says: Jul 22, 2011 6:01 PM

    @scoob766

    You miss-read it. It said Demarius Thomas was kissing and fondling her. Not Perrish Cox.

  41. tjacks7 says: Jul 22, 2011 6:11 PM

    i believe it.

    story needs more details, are we talking four – four locos? or four wine coolers?

  42. snaponrules says: Jul 22, 2011 6:18 PM

    This would be no big deal if he was the squealers QB.
    He needs to take the Rapethburger approach and starting writing checks until she drops the charges.

  43. nyjalleffingday says: Jul 22, 2011 6:24 PM

    That’s truly disgusting. Finding someone to have sex with you isn’t that hard, and I’d imagine it’s even less so when you have millions of dollars in your bank account.

    SMH at people.

  44. tjacks7 says: Jul 22, 2011 6:26 PM

    NO WAY!!!

    jk it probably happened.

  45. jebdamone says: Jul 22, 2011 6:27 PM

    t16rich says: Jul 22, 2011 5:17 PM

    Roger Goodell has sentenced Perrish Cox and Demariyus Thomas to one hour in a bathroom with Ben Roethlisberger.

    ——————————————————

    best comment ive read on here in weeks.

  46. fjd10 says: Jul 22, 2011 6:35 PM

    I vote for LIFE! I am sick of these athletes

  47. kyleortonsarm says: Jul 22, 2011 6:35 PM

    Everything is normal here people. This young man is just polishing up his resume for consideration from the Steelers. Crimes like this are their bread and butter.

  48. siggy00 says: Jul 22, 2011 6:43 PM

    “Cox refused to voluntarily offer a DNA sample and didn’t allow one to be taken until after investigators obtained a court order, the document said.”
    _________________________

    Unlike Roethlisberger who went back to Georgia to submit his DNA sample for the police.

    That’s what innocent men do when they claim intercourse didn’t happen.

    Guilty men like Cox wait until the court order comes in.

    Be-lie-dat!

  49. ravenator says: Jul 22, 2011 6:50 PM

    And the NFL is going to give people like this more money…awesome. At this point, I say let the owners burn em all.

  50. outburst78 says: Jul 22, 2011 6:58 PM

    Perish, Cox.

  51. broncotis3000 says: Jul 22, 2011 7:22 PM

    There is no baby involved..(terminated pregnancy according to Fox 31 Denver)Im willing to wait to see how this plays out before I convict the man. I do know Ive seen her website/Facebook page..I think shes a goldigging(garden tool).

  52. dogsweat1 says: Jul 22, 2011 7:59 PM

    Lawrence Phillips is insulted…….

  53. deadeye says: Jul 22, 2011 8:18 PM

    Fondling drugged women is not synonymous with high character. DT was drafted by Josh McDumb partly on the basis of his high character. Something is not adding up here.

  54. beyond2k says: Jul 22, 2011 8:24 PM

    They’re both stupid. Her and him.

  55. Soulman45 says: Jul 22, 2011 8:44 PM

    It bad a like down the drain a baby born out of wedlock jail time might be in his future a lost lost lost not good for any one.

  56. citiciti says: Jul 22, 2011 8:48 PM

    yo-yo-yo
    you are the baby daddy-pay up

  57. browniebuck says: Jul 22, 2011 8:49 PM

    I know that they don’t look much alike, but is she SURE it wasn’t Ben Roethlisberger…he HAS been known to put himself in positions like this!

  58. istateyourname says: Jul 22, 2011 8:49 PM

    Was that wrong? Should I have not have done that?

  59. trickbunny says: Jul 22, 2011 9:17 PM

    Ben Roethlisberger is jealous.

  60. biggie900 says: Jul 22, 2011 9:20 PM

    2sloweggroll says:
    Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM
    eggplant

    Eggplant????? please help understand what u mean by eggplant.

  61. Deb says: Jul 22, 2011 9:25 PM

    @tfbuckfutter …

    Yes, Georgia law has the same statutes on the books. But when the medical exam shows no sex occurred, it doesn’t matter whether the woman was capable of consent. The act she alleged didn’t happen anywhere except in your fanciful imagination.

    And though we won’t know what happened here until the evidence is presented, the allegation is that she was drugged–not that she willingly bent her elbow like the Georgia accuser.

  62. jimmysee says: Jul 22, 2011 9:46 PM

    This is a horrible sad tragic situaton for everyone involved.

    Not something to be joking about.

  63. melikefootball says: Jul 22, 2011 9:49 PM

    Here comes the Steeler fans…Will all the sports station give as much coverage and bashing to Cox as Big Ben has in Pittsburgh, especially the NFL Channel. They are right it should.

  64. rickditka says: Jul 22, 2011 10:12 PM

    … if anyone would have told me…

  65. digirootune says: Jul 22, 2011 10:21 PM

    Demaryius? Is that a real name?

    Ron Swanson does NOT approve.

  66. bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 22, 2011 10:45 PM

    I don’t condone what allegedly happened, but did the girl really think that she was going back to the apartment to play scrabble with a couple of drunk nfl players. Cox shoulda pulled a Rapesfurburger and done the deed in the bar bathroom and left. These Bonehead Nfl players just need to pay an escort or go to the Oriental Massage parlors instead up setting themsleves up for charges guilty or not. And hey drunk chics, if a Pro Athlete shows you attention or buys you drinks at a bar he is probably not looking to marry you when he brings you to his place or the bar’s bathroom stall later that evening. Wake up people.Why don’t we ever hear of WNBA players pulling these shenanigans, I’d be DTF for some dough!

  67. yahmule says: Jul 22, 2011 10:45 PM

    Cox had a well earned reputation for bad decisions and questionable character when the clown McDaniels drafted him.

  68. rickditka says: Jul 22, 2011 10:48 PM

    Soulman45 says:Jul 22, 2011 8:44 PM

    It bad a like down the drain a baby born out of wedlock jail time might be in his future a lost lost lost not good for any one.

    what are you, a freakin’ REtard. I can’t believe you were able to read the article.

  69. davikes says: Jul 22, 2011 10:56 PM

    It gets worse if you read the news reports in Denver. The victim was a friend of a woman that Cox was “dating”. And she told the police that “the only other person she had had sex with since was another Denver Broncos player she had dated, linebacker Wesley Woodyard.” Like to see the look on each of their faces when they read that. Talk about locker room schism. Welcome to today’s NFL, John Elway. Good thing the lockout is almost over, otherwise this is all we’d hear about.

  70. davikes says: Jul 22, 2011 11:24 PM

    So the police report redacted the victims name, but not the name of her friends, including the girl P. Cox was dating. Her name is Carthy Che, and she is a ridiculously hot model/go-go dancer. I normally wouldn’t put her name out there, but once you see the pictures you would probably agree that she wants all the fame she can get. And, since the doc is linked in the Denver Post, everyone is going to know her name soon enough anyway. It also proves that P. Cox is a complete idiot, because dating this girl sober is going to be immensely better than any other option.

  71. Soulman45 says: Jul 23, 2011 12:00 AM

    @rickditka
    What ever I am it should not be your life worry.

  72. FinFan68 says: Jul 23, 2011 12:19 AM

    biggie900 says:
    Jul 22, 2011 9:20 PM
    2sloweggroll says:
    Jul 22, 2011 5:08 PM
    eggplant

    Eggplant????? please help understand what u mean by eggplant.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    racial slur

  73. croqkbh says: Jul 23, 2011 5:58 AM

    This is why the players need more money. To pay for all the kids they bring in to the world with random women urchins.

    Why not just pay a hook? It is sad when Charlie Sheen is more astute than you are.

    You don’t pay for sex, you pay for them to leave!

  74. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 23, 2011 7:19 AM

    bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 22, 2011 10:45 PM
    I don’t condone what allegedly happened, but did the girl really think that she was going back to the apartment to play scrabble with a couple of drunk nfl players.

    ————————————–

    How, exactly, is that not both condoning what happened AND blaming the victim?

  75. souldogdave says: Jul 23, 2011 10:12 AM

    So, his fellow player is making out with a girl, and she passes out. He does the deed when she is incapacitated. Sloppy seconds! Almost necrophilia if she can’t respond.Who drugged her? And now she’s dating another player on the same team!WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

  76. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 10:51 AM

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    So it’s an “allegation” with Cox but with Roethlisberger, where there’s a medical exam showing the sex never occurred, you’re still calling him a rapist. Yeah, you’re proud to be a Browns fan and have no ax to grind. You’re just a swell, objective guy–we get that from your user name :roll:

    And did you seriously ask why this doesn’t happen with women athletes? You have the IQ of a peanut.

  77. richm2256 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:18 AM

    @Deb:

    Please, shut up about Roethlisberger already.

    Is the guy PAYING you to defend him here?

  78. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 1:03 PM

    @richm2256 …

    Ah, yes, the great defender of women doesn’t have any problem telling one to shut up when he doesn’t like what she has to say. Isn’t that typical? Just another blowhard who’s all talk and no substance. No, he isn’t paying me. I don’t even like the guy. What I like less is jerks like you who pretend to have law enforcement experience but ignore evidence for the sole purpose of turning rape into a running football catcall.

    Clearly you’re the type of man who likes to put women in … a-hem … their place by telling them to “shut up.” I’ve taken worse from bigger bullies. And I still say what I please when I please.

  79. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 23, 2011 2:25 PM

    Deb says: Jul 22, 2011 9:25 PM

    @tfbuckfutter …
    And though we won’t know what happened here until the evidence is presented, the allegation is that she was drugged–not that she willingly bent her elbow like the Georgia accuser.

    —————————————

    God I hate engaging you….but I will point out, AGAIN, that consent can’t be given by a drunken person, so therefore if she’s coerced, forced, or whatever, into “bending her elbow” it is STILL SEXUAL ASSAULT and the fact that she can’t even determine the NATURE OF THE ASSAULT is even more PROOF OF IT. Especially when the AGGRESSOR admits that some sexual activity took place with a black-out drunk girl.

    But please, continue with your incredibly misguided misogyny and blaming-the-victim mentality….oh, also also keep inquiring why your lunacy-ridden posts are constantly downvoted.

  80. bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 23, 2011 4:09 PM

    @ Deb
    Did you ever consider, with that huge alleged I.Q. of your that people use this website for entertainment purposes and comic relief as opposed to a way to serious forum for legal discussion and debate. 90% of people who post here on PFT just enoy being able to make smart *ss comments to rib the rivals of their teams etc. to get a rise out of them, not to actually cause them anguish. It’s obvious to many here that YOU take this site and yourself way too seriously. I’m sure you feel very empowered by being one of the few females posting on PFT. with your limited Football knowledge (oustide of the Steelers /Benny R. and his every coming and going) it is very tiresome to see your constant same line regarding no evidence was shown that sex occurred BS in defense of the QB of your favorite team. It’s obvious you have way too much time on your hands to constantly be trolling PFT to make yourself heard in the name of Big Ben. Join Jenny Craig , Get a Boyfriend/Girlfriend go out on the town, do some charity work, something just please stop trying to be something your not on these blogs- a truly informed Pro Football Fan. Save that for the big Boys. Actually the best thing you could do is get a sense of humor, and a large dose of humility. No one really cares what you have to say because you bring nothing to the table other than repeated info you read from an article or heard on espn. As for the screenname and IQ comments I’ll throw my Masters up against your AS in BS, any day, sweetie pie. Go Browns. and yes I actually know more about Ben than you, I grew up in Findlay, and know him / his sister Carlee etc. quite well. So don’t always judge a book by it’s cover. As I hardly buy most of the fabrications you spew daily. I do however feel sorry if you are truly a rape victim. Dont agree with you often putting that out there for sympathy or reaction whatever . Which is probably a slap in the face for true victims. Look in the mirror, as you are not any more intelligent, informed mature, or above anyone else that posts here. Now go get yourself a vulgar screenname and stop taking yourself so seriously, life is too short.

  81. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 5:17 PM

    @tfbuckfutter …

    Yes, I’m sure you would prefer not to engage me. And I couldn’t care less about getting thumbs down. Clearly I don’t tailor my opinions to be popular.

    As I said, the medical exam showed the intercourse she alleged never occurred–a fact you persistently omit. Consent or the ability to consent is not an issue when no sex occurred. Multiple witnesses at different clubs said the accuser bought her own drinks all evening before she voluntarily drinking from the rounds Roethlisberger bought for the room, which were deposited on the table. No one set out to get her drunk. By witness accounts, Ben was also slobbering drunk rather than soberly calculating. And no, he never admitted sexual contact as was rumored.

    My only concern is victims. That’s why I give no quarter to women who falsify rape accusations … and why I’ve stuck to my guns despite verbal abuse that was sometimes vicious enough to reawaken my own flashbacks. Congrats on that. Please don’t talk to me about misogyny; yours is well-documented. I find the whole Milledgeville incident disgusting. But both were equally responsible for their sordid behavior. Roethlisberger has demonstrated himself to be a jerk, and I don’t believe people can change overnight. But they can be shaken up enough to want to change and in time they can grow up. I hope Roethlisberger is sincere in wanting to do that. Time will tell.

  82. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 23, 2011 6:24 PM

    “Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 5:17 PM

    As I said, the medical exam showed the intercourse she alleged never occurred–a fact you persistently omit. Consent or the ability to consent is not an issue when no sex occurred. Multiple witnesses at different clubs said the accuser bought her own drinks all evening before she voluntarily drinking from the rounds Roethlisberger bought for the room, which were deposited on the table. No one set out to get her drunk. By witness accounts, Ben was also slobbering drunk rather than soberly calculating. And no, he never admitted sexual contact as was rumored.”

    You JUST stated that she gave him a handjob. THAT IS SEXUAL CONTACT AND IF UNWANTED (OR UNCONSENTED) CONSTITUTES ASSAULT.

    And your little “he was drunk” defense also holds no water as, you ought to know being a fake lawyer and all, being drunk is not a defense to a CRIME.

    And again, you admit the girl was so drunk she doesn’t even know WHAT happened, yet think she provided consent.

    Just as despicable as always, my dear. DONE.

  83. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 6:25 PM

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    Sweetie, you are so funny.

    I’ve never alleged having a high IQ. You came up with that on your own. And I post all over PFT and CFT, using all kinds of delicious smacktalk. As I told someone last night, I’m quite charming and well-behaved in my actual life, so I’m never more cheerful than when pulling the legs off insects on the football blogs. About the only thing I take seriously are the rape discussions. If you can’t understand that, guess what? I don’t care. I don’t care if you agree with me putting that out there. I don’t need or want the sympathy of anonymous twits on football blogs. But I don’t like little girls who cry wolf and will continue to say so as long as it suits me. I’ll also speak up on other serious matters from time to time. There’s no crying in football, but we are allowed to use our brains.

    I’m pretty well-versed in the game, its history and politics, both in the NFL and NCAA. Men not trying to prove their manhood don’t have a problem with that. I don’t worry about lil squirts. It’s not my nature to go onto rival threads and badmouth other teams. But when you bring it to me, I have no problem talking about your poison river, the resemblance between your GM and Miss Piggy, and your long, sad history of losing to my Steelers. No wonder you have to focus on my idiot QB’s off-field misadventures. His on-field play probably gives you nightmares. Until Ben made it necessary for me to delve into his legal issues, my only interest in him was his game performance. I don’t care what he was like in Findlay and didn’t even know his sister’s name. You obviously care much more about him than I do. My only interest is not enabling false accusers.

    Thanks, but I like my user name, my posts, and living a life that doesn’t need to be fabricated–one you’ve apparently given a lot of thought … ROFL. By the way … have you ever heard of the “enter” key? Life may be short, but your unigraphs are interminable.

  84. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 23, 2011 6:26 PM

    Oh, and one last point I omitted…..whether someone sets out to intoxicate a victim or comes upon the victim already intoxicated makes no difference.

    Much the same as it’s not ok to rob someone passed out drunk in an alley because YOU didn’t get him drunk.

  85. bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 23, 2011 8:25 PM

    @Deb,
    Awful feisty for a well aged gal, I do like your
    passion, just not the repetative delivery. I really don’t think at this time you should be “throwing rocks in a glass house” so to speak when it comes to franchises. Your classy Steeler organization is quickly becoming the punchline of the NFL. And if your up for a little wager I predict the Browns will beat your steelers twice this year. Any thing you wanna bet???

  86. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 10:49 PM

    @tfbuckfutter …

    ROFL … I just admitted she gave him a hand job??? Where did you come up with that? I’ve thought a lot of things about that episode in Milledgeville, but that’s never even crossed my mind. And I’ve never posted anything remotely like that. Are you posting from a bar?

    The woman alleged vaginal rape. She didn’t allege a hand job, or any other kind of job. She may have been drunk, but she wasn’t drugged. She was on her feet and coherent enough to know what orafice was used. She first said they didn’t even have sex. Then she changed the details of her story umpteen times. The only detail she didn’t change–after that first denial–was vaginal rape. And the medical exam showed conclusively that did not happen. You and I can speculate all we want about what might have occurred in the less than 10 minutes witnesses put them alone together. But only she could make the allegation–and she alleged something that didn’t occur no matter how much you fantasize otherwise.

    No, it’s not okay to take advantage of a woman’s intoxication or other impairment. But all the witness evidence that night says this was a woman who set out to nail a celebrity athlete. Are the jocks dogs for taking what’s thrown at them? Probably … but I haven’t walked in their shoes. And neither have you. However, I have seen celebrity groupies in action and it’s nuts. Nothing … nothing in the documentation of this case suggests this woman was any kind of victim. And no matter how much you rant, I won’t dishonor real victims by saying otherwise.

  87. Deb says: Jul 23, 2011 11:02 PM

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    A well-aged gal? ROFLOL Omigosh, you are hysterical! This is the first time I’ve ever wished I could flip on the Web cam and say Hi! Yeah .. you just keep imagining me that way :lol:

    Actually, I’ve been posting for two seasons that the Browns are coming back. No, I don’t expect you to sweep, but who knows? We could split the series. It’s just impossible to predict anything in this nutty year.

    We’re good enough talentwise to return to the Super Bowl. But these Steelers have not played well the year following their Super Bowl wins. But we lost, so that could be good. And we’ve had some off-season issues–we usually play well when everyone thinks we’re falling apart. But I’m waiting to see what happens to our secondary during whatever passes for free agency.

    My thoughts on the Browns were with Mangini at the helm. Shurmur is a new ballgame. If he were a defensive guru like his uncle, I’d be really worried. Fritz was one of the best. But he’s an offensive guy and so is Holmgren. Will be interesting to see how that works out. Colt should fit that West Coast scheme well, though.

    Nope … too hard to predict this season. But I’m quietly confident :)

  88. bensstinkyfingers says: Jul 24, 2011 3:36 AM

    Well I am impressed with your knowledge of the Browns. As far as imagining what someone looks like based on posts, I would have guessed late 40′s to mid 50′s black hair, glasses, pear shaped, conservative dressing, 125- 145 lbs., librarian type?? I just turned 40 former athlete 12 pack with bag of chips lol, blue green eyes dark hair, does that fit your perception. Anyways not trying to sound like e-harmony client, just curious on the whole perception thing. Anyways, good luck on the up coming season and your daily battles with schmucks like me on PFT. Go Browns!

  89. Deb says: Jul 24, 2011 10:33 AM

    Omigoodness … not giving out too many particulars online. Definitely not a librarian type, though. Long auburn hair, green eyes. I dress pretty. All girl. No suits as though I’m trying to look like a guy. A little more Coke bottle than pear. Sweet face that can make people wrongly assume I’m a pushover :)

    I usually picture something associated with the user name or other post-related characteristic. Although your name is “stinky,” it makes me think “sticky.” So I’ve always pictured a guy with sticky candy all over his hands LOL Now I’ll picture a real person :)

    Good luck with your Browns. It’s too bad Shurmur didn’t get to prepare them during the off season. This may be a hard year for teams introducing new coaches, but I still think they’re on the way up. It would be nice to make that series competitive again.

  90. philriverslovespenis says: Jul 24, 2011 7:11 PM

    Wow, good thing Josh McAhole was so worried about character. I swear if I ever see that low life scum bag in person, it will be worth the jail time to hit him as hard as I possibly can.
    @ Soulman45:
    If you have failed your grammar class since kindergarten (all 4 years of it), please don’t attempt public blogging. I spent like 2 minutes of my life trying to decode that (and still couldn’t figure it out). BTW, Waterboy called, and they want their nipple pierced, babbling redneck weirdo back.
    @ bensstinckyfingers & tfbuckfutter:
    Don’t feel too bad about Deb. I’ve been ridiculed about my username as well. I for one DO have a sense of humor and think your usernames are hilarious.

  91. Soulman45 says: Jul 24, 2011 7:27 PM

    @philriverslovespenis
    Don’t try to read it, if you are some kind of police put me in jail.

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