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	<title>Comments on: Vote could come sooner than Monday</title>
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		<title>By: gdt372753</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1140188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gdt372753]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the deal...players should have been up to speed with the verbiage and talking points of this thing all along. What, then, is causing the hold up?  Could it be that the players want to squeeze the owners before agreeing to the proposed settlement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the deal&#8230;players should have been up to speed with the verbiage and talking points of this thing all along. What, then, is causing the hold up?  Could it be that the players want to squeeze the owners before agreeing to the proposed settlement?</p>
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		<title>By: tommy57</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tommy57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 04:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m enjoying baseball more and more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m enjoying baseball more and more.</p>
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		<title>By: cjsports</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1140063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cjsports]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 03:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait, but at the same time the owners have lied, screwed everyone, and became greedy.  So to the players, take your time and read the whole proposal, this way we get the best football that us the fans can get.  We know in ten years the owners will screw us and the players again, so give us these next ten years so we can get over what will happen quicker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait, but at the same time the owners have lied, screwed everyone, and became greedy.  So to the players, take your time and read the whole proposal, this way we get the best football that us the fans can get.  We know in ten years the owners will screw us and the players again, so give us these next ten years so we can get over what will happen quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: TIM</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1140003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TIM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One good thing...if there is no season,then Alex Smith can&#039;t sign with the Niners again !!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One good thing&#8230;if there is no season,then Alex Smith can&#8217;t sign with the Niners again !!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bigstar2012</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigstar2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is what it boils down to. The players are greedy, the owners are greedy as well but smart enough to know when the time comes to make a deal. 

The owners are businessmen, the players, well..., they are players. IMHO the players need to put their egos in check and strike a deal when they can. I doubt they will because they have become their own worst enemy. They feel they are what generates the income when in fact it is the owners and the franchises they own that have created the revenue stream.

Replacement players? Maybe. If I was an owner I would tell them to take a walk. 10 million dollar contracts can set them up for life. For that matter $500,000 for 5 years is more than what most people make in a lifetime. 

Sorry players, you loose. Take the deal or walk. You aren&#039;t all that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what it boils down to. The players are greedy, the owners are greedy as well but smart enough to know when the time comes to make a deal. </p>
<p>The owners are businessmen, the players, well&#8230;, they are players. IMHO the players need to put their egos in check and strike a deal when they can. I doubt they will because they have become their own worst enemy. They feel they are what generates the income when in fact it is the owners and the franchises they own that have created the revenue stream.</p>
<p>Replacement players? Maybe. If I was an owner I would tell them to take a walk. 10 million dollar contracts can set them up for life. For that matter $500,000 for 5 years is more than what most people make in a lifetime. </p>
<p>Sorry players, you loose. Take the deal or walk. You aren&#8217;t all that</p>
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		<title>By: purpleman527</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purpleman527]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is hillarious. We&#039;ve been following this everyday since March 3, 2011, and just about every story written has some sort of deadline. &quot;It could happen tomorrow, or next week, or July 17.&quot;

Here is the real story in all of this. (Follow me on this)

The owners have given in to the players on many issues over the last month. The players have been acting like two year olds. The owners have just said &quot;enough of this crap&quot;, by virtue of ratifying an agreement. The lockout will end, meaning players will be free to go to the facility and work out. So now, its up to the players. If the season doesn&#039;t happen now, it will be the players fault. The players will have to now go on STRIKE, if they don&#039;t like the final deal because there is no lockout anymore.

Brilliant move by the owners. 

I&#039;m sorry to say that I believe a strike by the players is coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is hillarious. We&#8217;ve been following this everyday since March 3, 2011, and just about every story written has some sort of deadline. &#8220;It could happen tomorrow, or next week, or July 17.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is the real story in all of this. (Follow me on this)</p>
<p>The owners have given in to the players on many issues over the last month. The players have been acting like two year olds. The owners have just said &#8220;enough of this crap&#8221;, by virtue of ratifying an agreement. The lockout will end, meaning players will be free to go to the facility and work out. So now, its up to the players. If the season doesn&#8217;t happen now, it will be the players fault. The players will have to now go on STRIKE, if they don&#8217;t like the final deal because there is no lockout anymore.</p>
<p>Brilliant move by the owners. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say that I believe a strike by the players is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: rollolarson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rollolarson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who even gives a f*** anymore]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who even gives a f*** anymore</p>
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		<title>By: rabidmike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabidmike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if I have this right there is no deal because;

a. D Smith is worried about keeping his job in 2012.

b. Current unsigned veterans fear they will be cut when teams have a window to sign undrafted free agents, so they want to drag this out.

Wow, the posters that think this site is a tool for the owners must be having fun with you guys today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I have this right there is no deal because;</p>
<p>a. D Smith is worried about keeping his job in 2012.</p>
<p>b. Current unsigned veterans fear they will be cut when teams have a window to sign undrafted free agents, so they want to drag this out.</p>
<p>Wow, the posters that think this site is a tool for the owners must be having fun with you guys today.</p>
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		<title>By: saturn1111</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saturn1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but I just can&#039;t blame the players for wanting some time to look over a very complicated CBA that will bind them for ten years once they sign it.  

These guys entertain us every sunday by playing a game that takes such a toll on them that they live shorter lives than the rest of us.  

If they want to take a few days to do everything they can to make sure that 32 shrewd billionaires haven&#039;t effed them up the arse for the next ten years, I&#039;m okay with that.  

It&#039;s July, people.  

There will be football soon enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I just can&#8217;t blame the players for wanting some time to look over a very complicated CBA that will bind them for ten years once they sign it.  </p>
<p>These guys entertain us every sunday by playing a game that takes such a toll on them that they live shorter lives than the rest of us.  </p>
<p>If they want to take a few days to do everything they can to make sure that 32 shrewd billionaires haven&#8217;t effed them up the arse for the next ten years, I&#8217;m okay with that.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s July, people.  </p>
<p>There will be football soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: drumzan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drumzan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole thing is simple.  Favre has asked the NFLPA* to stall as much as possible so he can heal up and play again next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing is simple.  Favre has asked the NFLPA* to stall as much as possible so he can heal up and play again next year.</p>
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		<title>By: drboogerlips</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drboogerlips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This mess is getting old.  $hit or get off the pot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This mess is getting old.  $hit or get off the pot.</p>
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		<title>By: odessabucs</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139951</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[odessabucs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The inmates are running the asylum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inmates are running the asylum.</p>
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		<title>By: pappysarcasm</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pappysarcasm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players  simply are stalling because they must give the rank and file 2 weeks to clean out before drug testing. You KNOW that the owners will have the pee cups out the minute they walk through the door!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players  simply are stalling because they must give the rank and file 2 weeks to clean out before drug testing. You KNOW that the owners will have the pee cups out the minute they walk through the door!</p>
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		<title>By: greenbay4ever</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139942</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greenbay4ever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That movie The Replacements is looking more and more like a good idea. Someone call Ryan Leaf  and Jamarcus Russel.  Wish Canadian football was more entertaining. I have more respect for those players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That movie The Replacements is looking more and more like a good idea. Someone call Ryan Leaf  and Jamarcus Russel.  Wish Canadian football was more entertaining. I have more respect for those players.</p>
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		<title>By: ohiogator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ohiogator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all crap.  Call me when the season begins.  I just hope we all can show the owners and players how freakin greedy they are by staying home when gametime rolls around.  Boycot those 7 dollar hotdogs and nine dollar beers too.  Freakin ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all crap.  Call me when the season begins.  I just hope we all can show the owners and players how freakin greedy they are by staying home when gametime rolls around.  Boycot those 7 dollar hotdogs and nine dollar beers too.  Freakin ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: tunescribe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tunescribe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re., riverhorsey says: Jul 22, 2011 6:14 PM

The players can’t get their stories straight because they’re to busy sticking their foot in their mouths.

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That covers the Jets. What about the rest of them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re., riverhorsey says: Jul 22, 2011 6:14 PM</p>
<p>The players can’t get their stories straight because they’re to busy sticking their foot in their mouths.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>That covers the Jets. What about the rest of them?</p>
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		<title>By: cryptker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cryptker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lockout is over,it`s not over,There going to vote,there not going to vote I`M SICK OF THIS NONSENSE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lockout is over,it`s not over,There going to vote,there not going to vote I`M SICK OF THIS NONSENSE!</p>
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		<title>By: wipastor</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wipastor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They didn&#039;t say which Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t say which Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: igglesnut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[igglesnut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bufny - Where are you getting that language from? All that I&#039;ve seen released is the CBA Term Sheet and the proposed revised league calendar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bufny &#8211; Where are you getting that language from? All that I&#8217;ve seen released is the CBA Term Sheet and the proposed revised league calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: cyday</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this fuss over Flag Football? Jeez!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this fuss over Flag Football? Jeez!</p>
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		<title>By: bobbyd12</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobbyd12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A more balanced, less emotional NFL.com has said that Monday meeting letter was between players, not anything official. Basically that means the Monday thing is nothing but fantasy. NFL.com is also reporting that Vincent Jackson will not sign off on the lawsuit. As far as getting majority vote, that&#039;s not a given either. The players are not happy, especially about health, safety and discipline. It still may take the players to re form the Union then negotiations on these issues before a deal gets done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A more balanced, less emotional NFL.com has said that Monday meeting letter was between players, not anything official. Basically that means the Monday thing is nothing but fantasy. NFL.com is also reporting that Vincent Jackson will not sign off on the lawsuit. As far as getting majority vote, that&#8217;s not a given either. The players are not happy, especially about health, safety and discipline. It still may take the players to re form the Union then negotiations on these issues before a deal gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: ehatem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ehatem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 25th, London.  Of July 2011 just in case.  As for the person who thinks the players are trying to skip preseason games because they want to stick it to the owners, understand that the hundreds of millions of dollars earned in the preseason?  That&#039;s revenue that is split between owners and players.  Should the deal not get done in time to save the first week of the preseason then the likelihood of a deal getting done goes down.  Because the 120 million dollar salary cap (plus the 20 or so million in benefits each team has) begins to shrink as that number is based off the revenue of an entire slate of games.  As that revenue number goes down, the player demands for more of a share of money will go up.  So if that&#039;s their strategy, welcome to the wonderful world of litigation and a lost season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 25th, London.  Of July 2011 just in case.  As for the person who thinks the players are trying to skip preseason games because they want to stick it to the owners, understand that the hundreds of millions of dollars earned in the preseason?  That&#8217;s revenue that is split between owners and players.  Should the deal not get done in time to save the first week of the preseason then the likelihood of a deal getting done goes down.  Because the 120 million dollar salary cap (plus the 20 or so million in benefits each team has) begins to shrink as that number is based off the revenue of an entire slate of games.  As that revenue number goes down, the player demands for more of a share of money will go up.  So if that&#8217;s their strategy, welcome to the wonderful world of litigation and a lost season.</p>
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		<title>By: thirstymofo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thirstymofo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are they reprinting the same article every week and just changing the date?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they reprinting the same article every week and just changing the date?</p>
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		<title>By: gfan8611</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gfan8611]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These &quot;articles&quot; about what could possibly, might happen are about ten times more annoying that anything the owners or players have or are doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These &#8220;articles&#8221; about what could possibly, might happen are about ten times more annoying that anything the owners or players have or are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: raiduhdude</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiduhdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If these guys are stalling because they haven&#039;t read every little thing, I can deal with that. But if they&#039;re wanting to skip TC, that&#039;s just turrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these guys are stalling because they haven&#8217;t read every little thing, I can deal with that. But if they&#8217;re wanting to skip TC, that&#8217;s just turrible.</p>
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		<title>By: httr73</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[httr73]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears to be that this could be resolved quickly if we just mix in a dash of common sense.

Issue: Players want to opt out after 7 years.
Solution: Opt out after 8 years with a significant penalty.  This is what was originally reported as a target any way.

Issue: Players want to recertify with actual cards being signed at the team facility and owners think that will take too long.
Solution: Let them.  You open the doors and allow players to meet with coaches and negotiate (but not sign) contracts.  On day one, they all sign their cards and send them back (it&#039;s called Fed Ex overnight delivery).

Issue: Players want penalties subject to independant arbitration (but it can&#039;t be agreed to until they recertify).
Solution:  Give it to them.  This is how the other leauges do it.  The new league year simply wouldn&#039;t start until the recertification is official (see Fed Ex comment).  The second that&#039;s complete you sign agreement.

Issue: Resolution of all outstanding lawsuits (the Doty ruling, etc.) which can be combined with the request for players to recoup lost benefits from last year.
Resolution:  The players agreed to the terms of the last CBA so they don&#039;t get the $320 MM for that.  However, the owners didn&#039;t act in good faith when negotiating the TV contract.  The players get 100% of the revenue from the first 2 preseason games.  This comes to about $200 MM extra in the players pocket and feels about right.  Plus, this has the added benefit of speeding things up if the deal includes a condition that the players loose out on the money for each of the first 2 preseason games missed.

Issues: Players feel disrespected.
Solution:  Get over it.  You&#039;re big boys.  You&#039;re negotiating.  Keep emotions out of it.

These donkeys are going to end up costing themselves a boat load of money over &quot;final details&quot; if they are not careful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to be that this could be resolved quickly if we just mix in a dash of common sense.</p>
<p>Issue: Players want to opt out after 7 years.<br />
Solution: Opt out after 8 years with a significant penalty.  This is what was originally reported as a target any way.</p>
<p>Issue: Players want to recertify with actual cards being signed at the team facility and owners think that will take too long.<br />
Solution: Let them.  You open the doors and allow players to meet with coaches and negotiate (but not sign) contracts.  On day one, they all sign their cards and send them back (it&#8217;s called Fed Ex overnight delivery).</p>
<p>Issue: Players want penalties subject to independant arbitration (but it can&#8217;t be agreed to until they recertify).<br />
Solution:  Give it to them.  This is how the other leauges do it.  The new league year simply wouldn&#8217;t start until the recertification is official (see Fed Ex comment).  The second that&#8217;s complete you sign agreement.</p>
<p>Issue: Resolution of all outstanding lawsuits (the Doty ruling, etc.) which can be combined with the request for players to recoup lost benefits from last year.<br />
Resolution:  The players agreed to the terms of the last CBA so they don&#8217;t get the $320 MM for that.  However, the owners didn&#8217;t act in good faith when negotiating the TV contract.  The players get 100% of the revenue from the first 2 preseason games.  This comes to about $200 MM extra in the players pocket and feels about right.  Plus, this has the added benefit of speeding things up if the deal includes a condition that the players loose out on the money for each of the first 2 preseason games missed.</p>
<p>Issues: Players feel disrespected.<br />
Solution:  Get over it.  You&#8217;re big boys.  You&#8217;re negotiating.  Keep emotions out of it.</p>
<p>These donkeys are going to end up costing themselves a boat load of money over &#8220;final details&#8221; if they are not careful.</p>
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		<title>By: petedutcher</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[petedutcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what ESPN is saying, to resertify they need 3 instances of voting:

1st - 11 people involved in the suit
2nd - 32 player reps

And if it gets pass those:

3rd: 1900 players

Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t get. The NFLPA is claiming the NFL made a power play...but if that&#039;s the case, why did Smith and company leave the meetings as though all was a done deal?

I don&#039;t think there was a power play at all...I think Smith, who might lose his job soon, is pointing a finger and trying to shift the blame.

The media blew the announcement all out of proportion. In Goodell&#039;s conference, he made it clear that it wasn&#039;t a done deal yet...that it all dependent on the NFLPA resertifying.

Now the media is pointing fingers just like Smith is.

The biggest problem I see is too many players are so uninformed by the NFLPA about the process that now they are holding out. Not the fault of the owners. Look at Smith and the player reps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what ESPN is saying, to resertify they need 3 instances of voting:</p>
<p>1st &#8211; 11 people involved in the suit<br />
2nd &#8211; 32 player reps</p>
<p>And if it gets pass those:</p>
<p>3rd: 1900 players</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t get. The NFLPA is claiming the NFL made a power play&#8230;but if that&#8217;s the case, why did Smith and company leave the meetings as though all was a done deal?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there was a power play at all&#8230;I think Smith, who might lose his job soon, is pointing a finger and trying to shift the blame.</p>
<p>The media blew the announcement all out of proportion. In Goodell&#8217;s conference, he made it clear that it wasn&#8217;t a done deal yet&#8230;that it all dependent on the NFLPA resertifying.</p>
<p>Now the media is pointing fingers just like Smith is.</p>
<p>The biggest problem I see is too many players are so uninformed by the NFLPA about the process that now they are holding out. Not the fault of the owners. Look at Smith and the player reps.</p>
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		<title>By: pakrbakr76</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pakrbakr76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whatsafairway:

&quot;And here I sit reading this crap some more…

Time to put it away and go watch Gilligan Island reruns.

MaryAnn or Ginger?&quot;

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Both at the same time :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatsafairway:</p>
<p>&#8220;And here I sit reading this crap some more…</p>
<p>Time to put it away and go watch Gilligan Island reruns.</p>
<p>MaryAnn or Ginger?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Both at the same time <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will probably be dragged out well into next month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will probably be dragged out well into next month.</p>
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		<title>By: descendency</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/vote-could-come-sooner-than-monday/#comment-1139898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[descendency]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sounds like PFT scrambling to keep people interested in their website over the weekend, since if no Football news is going to be made over the next two days (and it likely won&#039;t be) then no one has a reason to view a football news site...

Or maybe that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like PFT scrambling to keep people interested in their website over the weekend, since if no Football news is going to be made over the next two days (and it likely won&#8217;t be) then no one has a reason to view a football news site&#8230;</p>
<p>Or maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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