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Reggie Kelly on players: “People have started to cool off”

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Following the labor rollercoaster of Thursday night, Florio tried to make sense of what happened.

Some of the problems came from business, and some from simple human relations.  Many players didn’t appreciate the public pressure put on them by the owners and fought back.

Now 36 hours later, it seems like the emotions are subsiding.

“I think guys at first were angry [Thursday night] because the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it. You need to negotiate and do it the right way,” Bengals alternate player rep Reggie Kelly told Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer.  “People have started to cool off. It’s not about egos and personal feelings. It’s a business. All in all it’s going to work out and we’re going to be ready to play.”

There are very real issues to settle before an agreement, but we don’t see any deal breakers in the group.   The free agency timeline the NFL set out Thursday has clearly been disrupted but not by that much. Yet.

Put emotions aside, and there is still time to reach an agreement without much further damage to the game.

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42 Responses to “Reggie Kelly on players: “People have started to cool off””
  1. youboettcha says: Jul 23, 2011 10:30 AM

    On the nine or so remaining issues, can’t Arthur Boylan tell the NFL and PA to each make a list of most important issues to least important issues and split a compromise down the middle?

    Also, vow that this headline will not come out again before the lockout ends:

    “________ Trying to Make A Last Minute Power Play”

  2. grpatriot says: Jul 23, 2011 10:31 AM

    The owners scheduled the meeting in June! The proposal is based on a full season n preseason.
    How then did the player Reps say they didn’t know the Owners were going to vote? Especially when DeSmith n Goodell had a meeting prior to the vote??? Can you explain that to me like I’m a 6 yr. old???

  3. miafins1 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:31 AM

    And The Beat Goes On

  4. hansenbrothers says: Jul 23, 2011 10:34 AM

    Who cares? This isn’t going to get worked out until at least August…the NFLPA* wants to get at the owners any way they can…and the players don’t want to go out in this 90+ degree heat and have training camps…we’ll have all 16 regular season games…but the quality will be noticeably lower

  5. dryheaveone says: Jul 23, 2011 10:35 AM

    “There are very real issues to settle before an agreement, but we don’t see any deal breakers in the group.”

    gee, never heard that one before (rolling eyes now)

  6. stubbyjones says: Jul 23, 2011 10:35 AM

    First time you heard about the proposal? What the hell have you been negotiating the past few months?

  7. steelcity09 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:37 AM

    It is clearly obvious to me at this point that these stall tactics by the NFLPA serve two purposes.

    1. Have less camp time/practices/preseason stuff.

    2. Take one last shot at the owners for locking them out in the first place. Maybe a week of preseason games are lost on top of it.

    Having said that, I still dont believe a deal will be done until it is done because D Smith has proven to be irrational and unprofessional rather than be civil and rational.

  8. brave13 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:39 AM

    Hahahaha…yeah….whatever. Means nothing until we see the players on the same fields as the coaches.

  9. whatsafairway says: Jul 23, 2011 10:41 AM

    If it’s “business” like you say Reggie, check your emotions at the door. There’s no place in “business” for emotions.

  10. goindy2006 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:42 AM

    Damage done!

  11. rm10038 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:44 AM

    I think the busines of football has really damaged the game itself.

  12. mathsimillion says: Jul 23, 2011 10:45 AM

    “….because the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it”

    Really? Then your leader, reps and lawyers obviously were not doing their jobs very well or keeping you informed. Since an alternate rep said this he really wasn’t doing his job.

  13. higgy1 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:46 AM

    You mean “GOING BROKE” F these players !

  14. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Jul 23, 2011 10:48 AM

    Must be challenging to negotiate a complex contract with large-bodied children.

  15. saturn1111 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:51 AM

    It’s an unpopular point of view, I know, but:

    Having been on both sides of many labor disputes, I sympathize with the players, and recognize their right to be as careful as possible with the new (and very confusing) CBA language that was handed to them *after* the owners ratified it.

    These guys put their bodies on the line every week for our entertainment; they live shorter lives than us as a result.

    They’re not shrewd billionaire businessmen, either.

    So if they want to spend the weekend parsing the language in this thing before they bind themselves (and future players) to it for the next ten years, that’s fine by me.

    The last time I checked, football didn’t entertain me in July.

  16. kampfire90 says: Jul 23, 2011 10:52 AM

    This shows why owners are owners & players are players. Business requires level-headedness. Get it together players & sign the deal! We want to see some football!

  17. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Jul 23, 2011 11:00 AM

    One person who was still angry with what some see as a power play by the owners is Chad Ochocinco, who said on his Twitter feed:

    “Wonder how many people understand the awesome strategic move that some genius came up with to shift the pressure and negativity on us.”

    Poor Chad. 30-something and still not grown up.

  18. southmo says: Jul 23, 2011 11:02 AM

    ”People have started to cool off. It’s not about egos and personal feelings.

    ——————————————–

    LOL

  19. fballguy says: Jul 23, 2011 11:08 AM

    I’m so sick of hearing that there are “still real issues to settle”. If the issues aren’t dealbreakers, then agree in principal…start the season…and iron out the minor issues later.

  20. bbfe says: Jul 23, 2011 11:09 AM

    Hey, how is it that I knew the owners proposal was going to get voted on, and he didn’t. Every sports news outlet was covering it. Just read PFT and you know more than the players? I call shenanigans! They knew way before the owners vote.

  21. chadmurdigan says: Jul 23, 2011 11:12 AM

    That was one of today’s CBA warm fuzzies, PFT readers.

    Now be prepared for the cold water douse in a few hours.

  22. chiefsmoke2424 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    Of course they have cooled off realizing that they were the authors of their own drama: the revenue sharing model is a LEAGUE interest and has absolutely nothing to do with the players as it does not at all impact or include anything relating to their split of the revenue pie.

    Once the dumb-dumbs realized this, and once V-Jax gave up the gravy train, the players are starting to realize how one-sided this deal is IN THEIR FAVOR. They would be stupid to not ratify this deal.

    – Brady antitrust dropped? Check.
    – Revenue sharing model redundant? Check.
    – Players to re-form as a union? pending

    I would be shocked if this deal is not recommended by the executive council and the player reps by later today or tomorrow at the latest……….

    but the stupidity on the part of the PA and its amateurish lines of communication within have have disappointed before, and likely will again.

  23. jimphin says: Jul 23, 2011 11:18 AM

    In other words… the players are sissy girls.

    Stop pressuring me! Waaaaaaaa!

    As a fan, I also expect you to feel some pressure from me to quick your cry baby act and get this thing done.

  24. phinfan54 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:24 AM

    Reggie Kelly said “ …the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it.”
    The NFLPA is completely at fault for not communicating with its membership about the details of items that were agreed to. The language in the CBA CAN be confusing, but the NFLPA has only itself to blame.

  25. southmo says: Jul 23, 2011 11:26 AM

    saturn… I recognize the players right to be careful, but I also have a right to roll my eyes at them for saying this isn’t about egos or personal feelings right after they collectively threw a hissy fit.

  26. eaglesnoles05 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:27 AM

    Just keep this limbo going until I finish the bar exam wednesday, is all I ask. Otherwise, how could I POSSIBLY stay focused on that with ALL THE CHAMPIONSHIP MOVES THE EAGLES ARE GONNA MAKE AS SOOOOOON AS THIS ISH IS A DONE DEAL!

  27. gtmann says: Jul 23, 2011 11:27 AM

    “….because the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it”

    Now whose fault is that ? The owners ? Don’t think so . You have no leadership ! Why were De Moron and the player reps not all in the same room, preferable in the same building as the owners, when this was being presented to the owners with full knowledge that it eas going to be voted on ?

  28. screechingllama says: Jul 23, 2011 11:33 AM

    Every report says “we’re close, progress is being made, and we’re going to get a deal done.” In the end the only score that counts is another day passes and a deal is not done.

  29. yajas says: Jul 23, 2011 11:38 AM

    saturn1111 says: “…So if they want to spend the weekend parsing the language in this thing before they bind themselves (and future players) to it for the next ten years, that’s fine by me.”

    I agree that if the players wanted more time to make sure everyone understood all the complexities of the contract, that would be fine – even smart. But that is definitely not what happened. As soon as the owners voted on what was agreed on by their leadership on both sides, the players started spewing all sorts of crazy accusations acting like they had no idea the CBA negotiations had ever even started and that the owners somehow just made this all up by themselves in the middle of the night.

    This all stems from disorganization, disinformation, and competing interests on the players side.

  30. bluvayner says: Jul 23, 2011 11:40 AM

    At some point they need to realize that the owners are the owners, and they are the employees. They are not really partners, as much as they’d like to think so.

  31. willycents says: Jul 23, 2011 11:43 AM

    To the players complaining about not knowing anything about what is in the deal offered..It is not wholly the negotiators/union reps responsibility to keep abreast of developements. There is also a significant level of personal responsibility to keep oneself informed on matters that affect your life and livelyhood.
    Personally, if there were negotiations ongoing (a union contract covering me) I would damn certain be informed about the current state of negotiations and the subjects settled/unsettled if I had to call my rep every single day and demand an update, and promise severe repurcussions if I did not get it. Ignorance of what is transpiring in this situation makes the player reps look incompetent, it also makes the players look extremely foolish.

  32. bengalanthony13 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:44 AM

    Relatively good news. It seemed as if the prary reason the players didn’t vote was just because they got upset.

    On another unrelated note, if you don’t know who Reggie Kelly is, you’re missing out. The guy is a class act. A lot of people may recognize him from when the Bengals were on “Hard Knocks” a couple of years ago. He tore his Achilles and was tearing up in the training room when the trainer told him he’d be gone for the year in one of the episodes. Not the greatest football player, but he has been in the league for a long time and has been a great mentor to Jermaine Gresham and Chase Coffman. He’s a deeply spiritual man and a good guy. I just want to give him a shout out for being a great guy on a team seen as a group of turds.

  33. lucky5934 says: Jul 23, 2011 11:45 AM

    Let’s call this for what it is… The players want a shorter preseason. END OF STORY! First they wuss out about wanting no more Two-A-Days. A time honored ritual of preseason football from high school on up to the Pros. Now they are dragging their feet to shorten the preseason. I mean why practice like professionals when you can shorten the preseason and get to the actual paydays of the regular season.

  34. seabreezes51 says: Jul 23, 2011 12:03 PM

    So, the players jerked around and wanted to vote last, but them decided they should have voted first, and now they want to back up and punt?

  35. samoanjungle says: Jul 23, 2011 12:04 PM

    What the owners did was a dirty move, with the way they presented the ratification with so much hoopla and like it was ending the dispute. Then they try to slide in some changes and put the public pressure on the players, trying to make it look like the players are now the only one’s holding things up.
    Obviously some people on this board are gullible enough to have fallen for it.

  36. ezmoover says: Jul 23, 2011 12:04 PM

    “I think guys at first were angry [Thursday night] because the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it.”

    Is this suppose to be a joke?

    That was DeFraud Smith’s responsibility to communicate the current events to the players!!!

    Not the owners’ responsibility!!!

    Has the entire world gone plumb STUPID? (Or just the players?)

  37. descendency says: Jul 23, 2011 12:16 PM

    Guys… calm down. It’s going to happen. Give it a few days. Complain when actual games are missed and not glorified scrimmages (ie the Hall of Fame game, Pro Bowl… please???)

  38. semperfi24 says: Jul 23, 2011 1:07 PM

    Reggie Kelly said “ …the first time we heard about the proposal was on TV when they voted on it.”
    _________________________________

    I have a couple of problems with this statement. My first issue, if the players didnt know anything until after the Owner vote, why were there players like Heath Evans for example, that were on twitter BEFORE the Owner vote, bitching about the new CBA that was going to be voted on by the owners??? That means the players DID know before the vote you dumb f_ck!

    My second issue is, if the players, like Heath Evans as mentioned above, already read the CBA, and understood it enough to be able to complain about some of the language in the CBA, as well as bitch about some of the things the Owners tried to “sneak into the CBA”, how does it take an entire weekend to digest the CBA??? Heath Evans read it in about 4 hours, but the rest of the Union* needs 4 days??? We know the players arent all lawyers, and I dont expect them to be able to read a document as complex as the CBA and understand all of it. That is why they have DeMoron, and all of his lawyers. DeMoron should be able to translate the CBA to all of the players, in terms that the players will understand, if he cant do that, he is useless

    I think this is nothing more than the players trying to battle the owners on public opinion, and to try to stick it to the owners as often as they can before signing any deal

  39. nflfan101 says: Jul 23, 2011 1:25 PM

    While players may be mad at the owners for voting to approve the deal, the real culprit is D. Smith for not getting copies of the agreement to the players. He should have kept the players informed all along the way and the players should have been ready to vote when the owners voted.

  40. pigskin28 says: Jul 23, 2011 2:55 PM

    [quote] On another unrelated note, if you don’t know who Reggie Kelly is, you’re missing out. The guy is a class act. A lot of people may recognize him from when the Bengals were on “Hard Knocks” a couple of years ago. He tore his Achilles and was tearing up in the training room when the trainer told him he’d be gone for the year in one of the episodes. Not the greatest football player, but he has been in the league for a long time and has been a great mentor to Jermaine Gresham and Chase Coffman. He’s a deeply spiritual man and a good guy. I just want to give him a shout out for being a great guy on a team seen as a group of turds.[/quote]

    Thanks for pointing that out Bengalanthony, I thought he sounded like someone on the owners side with the clear thinking and wellparsed words….to bad he’s an alternate.
    These are the type of guys I’d like to see in the forefront representing the players.

  41. CKL says: Jul 23, 2011 3:19 PM

    samoanjungle says:
    Jul 23, 2011 12:04 PM
    What the owners did was a dirty move, with the way they presented the ratification with so much hoopla and like it was ending the dispute. Then they try to slide in some changes and put the public pressure on the players, trying to make it look like the players are now the only one’s holding things up.
    Obviously some people on this board are gullible enough to have fallen for it.

    __________________________________
    I see nothing wrong with the owners holding a presser to announce that they passed the deal they had in front of them. If you had watched Thurs. evening’s NFLN coverage you would know that the owners weren’t by and large jubilant acting at all. In fact the reporters there commented that most of them were in somber “we’ll see” mode.

  42. jeepin08 says: Jul 23, 2011 6:12 PM

    The owners locked out the players. The players are about to lockout the fans.
    Plain and simple, git er done and quit trying to avoid a couple of pre season games.

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