Comments on: Seven-year opt out isn’t necessary, or helpful http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 00:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: hedleykow http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140897 Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:11:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140897 sing it bigtiki . . . .

. . . . Land of the Brave, and the Home of the CHIEFS!

]]> By: bigtiki007 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140649 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:16:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140649 @hansenbrothers: “I’ll be putting my money towards more important stuff”… Like Chief’s Gear? *hehe*

]]> By: sylar1888 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140595 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:58:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140595 oldbrowndawg says:
Jul 23, 2011 12:15 PM
It’s becoming equally clear to me that the players may well be dragging this out so they can skip the first preseason game. Heck, they’ve already dodged the mini-camps and OTAs and they’re already looking at a shortened training camp (with no two-a-days). Hmmmm. You don’t suppose work avoidance is creeping in here, do you? Nah, with these prima donnas, never happen! They probably have some beachfront property in Nevada they’d like to sell the owners while they’re at it.

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Hey Oldbrowndawg, When did California fall into the ocean?? I wasn’t aware Nevada had “beachfront property.” No wonder these players are taking so long to sign this deal.. I do agree with you work avoidance theory though! Lol

]]> By: 4uthetruth http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140555 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:57:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140555 @httr73: Agreed.

I played 23 seasons of organized baseball and softball for love of the game. I’m not wealthy. But I HAD over 1,000 ticket stubs from MLB games, none since the 1994 strike; I believe the players have an almost sacred responsibility not to kill the series. Bye y’all.
I am a FAR bigger fan of football than baseball. I played 24 years for love of the game. NFL players seem to have lost sight of: they NEED the FANS. We don’t NEED them. And it doesn’t bother me if the owners make a profit. Capitalism is millions of times better than socialism! I don’t sympathize PERIOD with men who will betray the fans because “$500,000 is just NOT enough! I need $510,000, or I will kill the game!” If you do, for me it’s College Football! and Sundays FREE!

]]> By: httr73 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140482 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:08:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140482 The players didn’t want the opt out until the owners passed it with 31 votes. The it became a case of “well the owners like the deal too much, so it must not be good for us”. Childish.

]]> By: deadeye http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140475 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:52:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140475 “If the owners had and used the opted out clause in the last CBA, the players should be able to have one in this one. If its a deal breaker, then so be it. No fair deal…no football.”

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This is kindergarden caliber reasoning. The owners needed the opt out because the smaller market teams could not turn a profit under the last CBA. Those small market owners knew that during the negotiations and insisted on the opt out. The players allowed the opt out because they knew they were getting a great deal, even if it was only for two seasons.

This CBA is different. The players are scoring big time with a 90% salary floor. Opting out of a 90% floor is moronic, and I guarantee that if any of the small market teams struggle year in and year out under this deal, the union will never see a 90% floor ever again. The wise move for the players is to accept it and lock in for the next decade.

]]> By: whitetail28 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140473 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:50:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140473 Sounds about right. The players want to be able to opt out of a contract.

]]> By: bdawk20 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140452 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:17:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140452 Wait, the players did not elect to take contract law and comprehension in college?? Maybe the owners should have organized the CBA as a Movie similar to ones viewed in “Motion Picture Cinema Watching 101″.

]]> By: ytsejamer1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140448 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:12:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140448 I don’t see why there can’t be a provision in the CBA that if one party wants to change something, they can bring it up at the next set of annual meetings, etc. If it’s truly important, they can work it into the existing framework?

Players are being douche-nozzles at this stage of the game. They were supposed to know what was what and at this point, they are running around like spoiled brats, complaining about something that isn’t even applicable to them.

Grrr…

]]> By: eaglesfanxx http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140435 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:58:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140435 I never knew how dumb the players really were until they began to comment on the owners agreement (George Wilson, Heath Evans, Joshua Cribbs).

De Smith is a moron. He had an issue with the NFL creating a supplemental revenue sharing program. That’s not an issue that affects the players. The owners work out the details of revenue sharing in order to help small-market teams. It’s doesn’t affect how much money the players receive in any way.

The players got a very good deal. The GM’s have to sign free agents and rookies in just three days. Why can’ the players work out the issues that can only be settled after they recertify in three days?

That’s why the players haven’t voted yet. They want more time than three days to resolve issues like player discipline. The players also feel the owners are pressuring them to vote.

Take the vote and go back to work!

]]> By: jacksaysfu http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140434 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:58:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140434 Bravo to the owners, I’m now 100% on their side. They did their job by voting and signing, now the nflpa* is effin with my emotions. GET TO WORK CLOWNS!!

]]> By: wizahdry http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140430 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:52:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140430 I think I will opt out of my Sunday Football Package this year!

]]> By: nmeagle33 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140428 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:51:04 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140428 The players should have attended real classes thoughout their school careers then maybe they could act as the wise people they pretend to be instead of winding babies.

Geez, what over grown babies; it would be helpful if they could read.

]]> By: freedomispopular http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140427 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:50:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140427 I’m gonna start buying up popcorn so I’ll have it ready come 2021.

]]> By: bigperm33 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140426 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:50:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140426 There is no reason for the players not to want this either. Can anyone predict what the NFL landscape will look like 7 years from now? Sure, chances are it may be fine and the players may never want to opt-out. But why not have the protection? Especially with a commissioner like Goodell leading the sport, the players may want to opt out in 7 years not for financial reasons, but to put in place any rules they may want to stop this commissioner from taking even more unilateral actions then he has already taken.

And I don’t for one second believe anyone with the NFL is neutral or closer aligned with the players. Why would that be the case?

]]> By: scott8nj http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140425 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:48:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140425 We need a fans union. These are our demands…
1. The show must go on. Start negotiating two years early if you have to, but no work stoppage under any circumstances, ever.
2. No more price gouging. Not on tickets, parking or concessions. We will negotiate fair prices. $37 to park and $200-$900 for tickets are absurd.
3. See number one.

These demands need to be met or we will not support the NFL in any way. Then no one gets anything.

]]> By: buffedwhiteman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140417 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:41:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140417 With millions of people who have lost their jobs, millions of families who have lost their homes, and thousands of more people living on the street or in tent cities now, these million dollar athletes, who play a game which means little to nothing on the large scheme of life………………..Stuck on stupid (D.Smith NFLPA), morons.Sign the damn CBA.. Go get a real job….

]]> By: hedleykow http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140415 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:38:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140415 The gains the players have made in this process are actually pretty amazing. The senile owners obviously outsmarted themselves with their cute little lockout ploy. I bet they wish they could re-do that plan. LOL.

]]> By: jw731 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140414 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:38:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140414 For an occupation where the average time spent in such a career is less than 5 years or something, why in the hell are they haggling over 7 or 10 years length of contract?

]]> By: oarangecrush http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140412 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:34:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140412 The last paragraph of this article is dead on! Last sentence especially!! When these chumps(players) realize this is a partnership we can all move on!

]]> By: eaglemarkj http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140411 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:33:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140411 The players are enjoying there time off and are on a power trip. Its hot all over who wants to go to camp now!!

]]> By: tdprog1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140409 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:32:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140409 Its articles like this that make me wonder what in the hell is De Smith doing. These players are spouting on off on national TV and radio having little to no insight on the pertinent details of this agreement. It is making them look stupid. To say lack of communication on behalf of the NFLPA has been an issue is a gross understatement. I am starting to believe the players are just not smart enough to understand the details of this agreement.

On a unrelated note I really hate Heath Evans, did not before, but do now. JUST STFU!

]]> By: usa98j30t4 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140406 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:28:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140406 Would you be interested in representing the union so we can get thing done?

]]> By: bravin4evr http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140405 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:27:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140405 I am truly pro player but when this issue is put out there plain and simple, not mention makes sense it’s time to let it go vote and play football

]]> By: steelcity09 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140402 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:24:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140402 If I told Takeo SPikes I would give him one gold US Dollar coin for one of his $100 bills I bet he would say NO.

]]> By: cancelsundayticket http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140400 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:23:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140400 Since the players are not happy with their current employers, why don’t they do like everyone else and go find another job?

I’m sure, since most of them have 4 year degrees from prestigious colleges, they should have no problem finding another job where they can work 6 or 7 months out of the year and get paid a minimum of $325,000. per year! LOL

Sorry, I just have a hard time feeling sorry for a guy making millions for playing a game.

]]> By: duanethomas http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140399 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:23:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140399 If the owners had and used the opted out clause in the last CBA, the players should be able to have one in this one. If its a deal breaker, then so be it. No fair deal…no football.

]]> By: steelernfl http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140398 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:22:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140398 The players dont need an opt out clause. They have what blue collar workers call a “STRIKE”.

]]> By: oarangecrush http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140397 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:21:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140397 Best way to get all these guts to sign is start a fan revolt!!! Fans are in complete control and don’t even realize it! Stop buying NFL tickets! Jerseys! And so on..,,
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]]> By: steelcity09 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/seven-year-opt-out-isnt-necessary-or-helpful/#comment-1140396 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:21:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=141032#comment-1140396 Takeo Spikes doesnt even know what inflation is.

and with his huge salary he wont even notice it.

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