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Irsay on Manning: “There’s only so much you can pay one player”

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With the salary cap down to $120 million and quarterback Peyton Manning’s franchise tender at more than $23 million, Colts owner Jim Irsay has a problem.

For well over a year, he has been promising to make Manning the highest-paid player in NFL history.  Suddenly, Irsay is singing a different tune.

“To me, this isn’t about how much money I have to spend,” Irsay said in a conference call transcript distributed by the team. “The money is going to be spent and we’re already up against the cap and we already have to do something to make adjustments. . . .

“I’ve offered to make him the highest paid player.  We know when we look at our team, we need people to surround him to have a chance to win a Super Bowl.  With the cap actually going down this year, [Tom] Brady’s contract is something that would be reduced so-to-speak.  There’s only so much you can pay one player.  Whatever the number is, $20 million, you’re topping off there.  Then it becomes very difficult to be competitive and to field a team.”

So what does Irsay think will happen?

“To me, I hope we get something done in the next couple of days.  We’ve been ready and I’ve been ready.  It’s really important that we get the deal done so we plan going forward, not only cap-wise, but competitive-wise.  It’s something I hope gets done quickly and quite frankly, it is should get done quickly.  He is going to be the highest paid player and he is going to make more than Brady.  At the same time, under the system, you cannot pay a player $25 million dollars. It’s just not going to work and you’re not going to be able to compete.  We have to get something done and I look forward to doing that.  I’ve had a conversation with Tom Condon and we’ve talked in the last couple of days.  Bill Polian and him will process in the next days to come. It’s something that we need to get done.”

Irsay is right.  The problem is that the Colts paid Manning top dollar in 2004, and the team still found a way to put enough quality parts around him to win a Super Bowl two years later.  Thus, Condon could decide to tell Irsay that figuring out how to pay everyone else isn’t Peyton’s problem.

For now, Peyton could rely on his neck surgery and rehab to justify staying away until he gets the deal he wants.  At some point, however, Peyton will face a backlash from fans who realize first that he has more money than his great-grandchildren will ever need and second that his apparent effort to max out his next contract will undermine the team’s chances to win another Super Bowl.

In the end, Peyton has to ask himself whether it’s more important to make money or build a legacy.  If he retires with only one Super Bowl win, there’s simply no way he’ll be remembered as the greatest quarterback of all time.

But at least he’ll be able to dry the tears of regret with $100 bills.

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86 Responses to “Irsay on Manning: “There’s only so much you can pay one player””
  1. southyank7 says: Jul 25, 2011 11:45 PM

    Manning should have enough money to last him the rest of his life. if he was smart he’d take a hometown discount if he wants to have a above avg team around him to make a few more attempts @ SB runs, but Gordon Gecko says GREED is good

  2. tecmobowl34 says: Jul 25, 2011 11:47 PM

    Something tells me Manning ain’t up for renegotiating his contract

  3. firethorn1001 says: Jul 25, 2011 11:47 PM

    Someone has to take the reigns from Favre for the most loved/hated QB in the league.

  4. drewtip76 says: Jul 25, 2011 11:47 PM

    Save a Texan make money.

  5. wwwfella says: Jul 25, 2011 11:49 PM

    GREED! It’s the American way.

  6. crunation says: Jul 25, 2011 11:49 PM

    Irsay is correct

  7. riverhorsey says: Jul 25, 2011 11:53 PM

    Manning will sign for less, he’s a team guy and doesn’t want to leave the colts.

  8. infowarsaj says: Jul 25, 2011 11:55 PM

    God Damn that was a helluva an ending to the article (about the $100 bills). Pardon the language, but his writing is like music.

  9. thephantomstranger says: Jul 25, 2011 11:56 PM

    Pay-a-ton Manning.

  10. hammerlights says: Jul 25, 2011 11:57 PM

    Any player who holds out after all this lockout BS can go Fox himself

  11. darthobama says: Jul 26, 2011 12:01 AM

    Hold out peyton…don’t take that sh#t…they are disrespecting you if you take less than 25 mill…you have to hold out to teach them greedy owners a lesson…at least untill week two ought to do it…

    GO TEXANS!

  12. jaggedmark says: Jul 26, 2011 12:01 AM

    In the end, Peyton has to ask himself whether it’s more important to make money or build a legacy.
    ———————–
    He is building a legacy, which is a guy with a .500 playoff record who’s willing to endorse any product for a price.

  13. holdthemayo123 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:02 AM

    lets face it.. its important to him to win the $ battle because he NEVER will be considered better than brady on the field, save by some delusional folks in indy..

  14. nuclearwarfare says: Jul 26, 2011 12:03 AM

    Does anyone else feel like this might be the beginning of Life After Manning?

  15. craggt says: Jul 26, 2011 12:04 AM

    Any chance Lucas oil needs a new spokesman? Let’s get creative here people

  16. deadeye says: Jul 26, 2011 12:07 AM

    Manning will do the right thing, not because he’s a Saint, but because his union made the decision for him.

  17. Soulman45 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:07 AM

    Brady have been giving the hometown discount for years.

  18. toddyarbroughjr says: Jul 26, 2011 12:10 AM

    Since his years at Tennessee he has portrayed an image of a unselfish team player. The love of the game and of his team has always outweighed his greed. However, with Brady holding 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl rings, and 2 Super Bowl MVP’s (among multiple League MVP’s) Manning may see getting a bigger contract as the only thing keeping him in the same breath of talent between the two. I am not a Patriot fan, nor a Colts fan to clarify. I believe that both quarterbacks are phenomenal and if I had a vote I would put Manning in the HOF before Brady. Not taking anything away from Brady, but he has always been surrounded by talent, whereas Manning can make mediocre players look like Pro-bowlers. The question is does Manning see red when he looks at Brady’s resume’? If so, there may be another “lockout” in Indy if Irsay doesn’t come off of some cash…and soon.

  19. jjrs89 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:10 AM

    According to his forehead I would assume he was born on easter island

  20. oscojoe says: Jul 26, 2011 12:12 AM

    After 6 months and a few stories on Mannings intentions he releases a statement:

    “My objectives were two-fold when joining the group of named plaintiffs in the labor-related lawsuit. First, to show unified strength on behalf of benefiting all players; second, to see a resolution that recognizes the interests of players and management.

    Now we will see if some of the stories were true about him being selfish. He shouldn’t be paid more then Brady but to satisfy his ego the colts will.

    Anything more then 19 Million a year will show the true Manning. As I have written in previous responses. I won’t hold my breath. He is not the Team Player or Leader that Brady is.

  21. favrelous says: Jul 26, 2011 12:12 AM

    This is an attempt to pu public pressure on Manning. Irsay is a Richard.

  22. descendency says: Jul 26, 2011 12:16 AM

    Technically, you can pay him 120 million – 45 * vet minimum. Or 79 million.

    And with the way people talk about Manning, he’d still manage to be 12-4 or better.

  23. jacks40 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:17 AM

    “if he was smart he’d take a hometown discount”

    Is he signing with New Orleans?

  24. pacificnw7722 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:18 AM

    “Thus, Condon could decide to tell Irsay that figuring out how to pay everyone else isn’t Peyton’s problem.”

    It will be interesting to hear what Manning says about himself and the team in the coming months.

  25. benlw2 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:28 AM

    So we finally have football back. Funny how in all the talk about what was fair, no one represented the fans. Here we have an article about how much (in excess of $20 million) Peyton Manning will make while the country faces financial default, and thousands of people are out of work or are struggling at the poverty level. The average Joe can’t afford to take his family to a game when cheap tickets cost at least $65.00. Congratulations Peyton, (and NFL). Good job bilking the people that pay for the stadiums. Hope it feels good when you raise concessions, parking and ticket prices just so you can fulfill your promise to make one guy the highest paid player ever in NFL history. Good Job!

  26. dbellina says: Jul 26, 2011 12:30 AM

    Dan Marino has zero Superbowl wins and his is way up there when talking about the greatest QBs of all time. Also, Favre only has one Superbowl win too.

  27. eatingwings says: Jul 26, 2011 12:36 AM

    “I’ve had a conversation with Tom Condon and we’ve talked in the last couple of days. Bill Polian and him will process in the next days to come. It’s something that we need to get done.”

    __________________________________

    If the NFLPA just voted today, how has Irsay been in talks with Condon. Did he just admit to breaking the lockout rules. That means Irsay has been in neg. with a Free-Agent during the lockout…did I read that correctly..

  28. ICDogg says: Jul 26, 2011 12:39 AM

    I don’t get all the love for Irsay. He’s a jerk, always was and always will be. Let’s see how good the Colts are after Peyton plays out his franchise tag and becomes a UFA next season.

  29. rangenius says: Jul 26, 2011 12:41 AM

    wwwfella and other morons.

    GREED is the reason stadiums are built in NFL and College. It’s the reason uniforms are made and people play football. To make a living. The reason the NFL is so great and state of the art is the chase to make a living and make money. GREED IS GOOD you left wing idiots. Bring Obama in to put salary controls on everyone haha

  30. rangenius says: Jul 26, 2011 12:42 AM

    Manning has only won a single Superbowl and it was against Grossman and weak Bear team. Now you gonna pay him 20 mil? He’s old. Let him walk…

  31. geshtahl says: Jul 26, 2011 12:45 AM

    Two points here:
    1) The above commenters are right. Manning has enough money to allow Irsay to spend a little on other players.
    &
    2) I disagree with the assertion that having only 1 ring means that Manning won’t be remembered as one of the greats. Marino has no rings and is clearly one of the greats. Therefore, the idea that rings make the QB is a false argument. Football is either a team sport or one driven by the QB. You can’t have it both ways.

  32. melonnhead says: Jul 26, 2011 12:47 AM

    Use the Jerry Jones Rule!

  33. stanklepoot says: Jul 26, 2011 12:47 AM

    The irony is that in paying Peyton the way they have for all this time, the Colts have put Peyton in the driver’s seat in negotiations. It’s not simply a matter of his starting salary being so high. It’s that they pay him so much that they haven’t been able to afford to pick up a quality backup QB or rookie prospect to develop. Because of that, if the Colts try to pressure him in negotiations, his agent can always push back with the fact that the team will likely be sub-.500 without him. The Colts have invested so fully in Peyton that they’ve left themselves weak elsewhere.

  34. southyank7 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:48 AM

    peyton just turned 35 in march, how many more years he thinks he gonna play & how many more chances does he think he can make a SB run? career playoff record of W/L of 9 – 10 passer rating of 88.4…1-1 in SB’s…

  35. paul197343 says: Jul 26, 2011 12:49 AM

    Pay the man…No Peyton, no chance the Colts will compete for a long time.

  36. killxswitch says: Jul 26, 2011 12:51 AM

    The guy loves football. That can’t be disputed. He puts in too much time, effort, etc. He is obsessive about it. The greatest achievement in football is to be the QB of the team that wins the super bowl. Logically it would seem to follow that he will need to take a reasonable (but still quite enormous) contract in order to reach that highest height again. If he were to “only” make $12M this year, but make more and more each following year as the cap inevitably goes up, he will still be the highest-paid, he will still make ridiculous money, but he will allow the Colts to build an actual team.

    The time for Manning carrying the Colts on his back all the time should be over. It’s time to take a page out of Elway’s book. Take a step back, let the team help, win a couple of SBs and go out on top.

    If he hamstrings the Colts, I will be very disappointed in him. There is more to life than money. And don’t forget, he’s still made a hell of a lot of it!

  37. heisthejuan says: Jul 26, 2011 1:02 AM

    I don’t understand what the obsession is with signing for more than Brady.

  38. bucngator says: Jul 26, 2011 1:09 AM

    At some point, however, Peyton will face a backlash from fans who realize first that he has more money than his great-grandchildren will ever need and second that his apparent effort to max out his next contract will undermine the team’s chances to win another Super Bowl.

    ___________________________________

    Having already shown that these guys couldn’t care less what the fans think….. your statement should have read “the backlash from teammates”

    ….and even then, I seriously doubt that Manning gives a crap.

  39. rayvenmad says: Jul 26, 2011 1:12 AM

    He was a greedy SOB from day 1. He’ll bankrupt the colts as far as signing decent players and the next 5 years he will have what his dad had………………..great stats on a losing team!!!

  40. FinFan68 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:36 AM

    Once you start making that kind of money it doesn’t really matter. Why is it important to “be the highest paid player” and “make more than Brady”? Manning has made a ton of money already. He should be satisfied with $15M per year and the rest to get talent around him. For those that disagree, how can you say with a straight face that $15,000,000 per year is not enough compensation?

  41. dolphone says: Jul 26, 2011 1:38 AM

    “In the end, Peyton has to ask himself whether it’s more important to make money or build a legacy. If he retires with only one Super Bowl win, there’s simply no way he’ll be remembered as the greatest quarterback of all time.”

    That’s bullcrap. If he gets his 4-5 extra years, there’s simply no way he’s remembered as ANYTHING but the greatest to ever lace them up. But since he’s still doing amazing stuff week in and week out, it’s only natural people don’t appreciate it fully. Sad.

    Montana, Bradshaw had 4 titles. Neither was half the QB that Peyton Manning is.

  42. nahcouldntbethat says: Jul 26, 2011 1:59 AM

    Peyton Manning is 35 years old and he just had neck surgery. He’s a great QB, but he’s a great QB on the downside of his career.

    His numbers the last 3 years have been excellent but they’re a step down from his prime from 2004 to 2006.

    I think the Colts have a really hard call here if he holds out for a silly number. Signing him will hurt their ability to field a good team around him and there’s no guarantee that he’s not an 88.9 QB next year, which would mean no playoffs most likely.

    35 is 35. I think they do everything they can to bring him onboard for another season and hope he doesn’t force their hand.

  43. cornellsteelers says: Jul 26, 2011 2:16 AM

    /Grabs some popcorn

  44. indianheadmeatpackingcompany says: Jul 26, 2011 2:18 AM

    I want to call him greedy and most of the players and owners are. But at the same I, and nobody else out there reading this, can honestly say they would turn down money offered to them. Sure I would be happy with $1mil a year, but if they are offering me $5mil a year would I say “no thank you, I’ll just take $1mil.”? I wouldnt and pretty much nobody else in the world would either. Yeah we would be set for life and very happy with a fraction of $20mil a year, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t accept what they offer.

  45. patpatriotagain says: Jul 26, 2011 2:45 AM

    washed up. i can’t wait until the dolts get saddled with a huge contract and are basically paying the new fav-re.

  46. gimmeabruschi says: Jul 26, 2011 2:48 AM

    Looks like some trouble might be brewing regarding this contract.

    Peyton isn’t a kid anymore. It sounds like the Colts are reluctant to tie up enormous resources on a guy who will be 40 at the end of a long term deal.

    This could be interesting, but the Colts have been a noble rival to my Pats, so I hope they find a way to settle this that works out fairly for both sides. It has been a hell of a lot of fun watching these two teams do battle with one another the last 10 years.

  47. maverick5266 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:49 AM

    Anytime I Hear that filthy lawyers name I want to vommit. Tom condon is an oxygen thief. I love how Peyton Manning tries to hillbilly boy nextdoor routine, but has this slimy lowlife agent that is lower than whale *#^$. Hey Mr. Irsay save your cash. The old bucket head has a busted kneck.

  48. phillychzstk2012 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:50 AM

    about time an owner actually admitted it.

  49. skoobyfl says: Jul 26, 2011 3:15 AM

    Cut him so the Buffalo Bills can sign him, they’re going to be $25 Million away from the floor anyways. Then directv might put the Bills games below the 714 channel, maybe.

  50. dsfrantz says: Jul 26, 2011 3:34 AM

    This is one of those scenarios where we’ll just have to wait and see. Traditionally Manning has been more about having a solid team than making money– I think this highest-paid player business came about before the salary cap was an issue. If money is no object, then heck why not hold out for a massive amount. Once it comes down to cutting players, I think there will be a little more give. Also consider that the Colts have not associated with Manning for months, so neither side really knows where the other is at.

  51. andyreidisfat says: Jul 26, 2011 4:26 AM

    Like i get a player should be paid what they are worth but….

    And this goes for all Americans especially the ones who jobs are to just make money (wall street types) when is enough enough ??? Whats your number ??? as the line in the movie goes.

    I make around 50 thousand a year and i live just fine. Now if i was offered more sure i would take it. If i was offered a choice between keeping my 50 and some other dude keeping his and his job or i get the whole 100 and dude hits the the road, i am keeping my 50 and letting the guy keep his job..

    I just don’t under stand greed. I don’t get it. People say you get more power when you have money =, but the only real power you get is the power to get even more money. At what point in this country is enough enough, What is America’s number ?

  52. pc1976 says: Jul 26, 2011 4:28 AM

    Colts are on a cliff. This year or next, they’re going to fall off it

  53. borisbulldog says: Jul 26, 2011 4:29 AM

    Since 2007 Manning has thrown 14,12, 16 and 17 INT’s. Lowest passer rating at 91.9 last year since ’01.

    Manning’s done. Shame the Colts will spend $100MM and find that out in 4 years!

  54. denverdude7 says: Jul 26, 2011 5:15 AM

    Save the Colts franchise. Trade Manning now and get the rebuilding process started early.

    A three way trade between Indianapolis, Philadelphia and Arizona could result in all three teams benefitting.

    Just think of the possibility of Manning throwing to Fitzgerald. Plus, the warm, dry air could lengthen Manning’s career, allowing him to make even more money in the future.

    Kolb would be the Colts new young gun and The Eagles would be loaded with draft picks.

    Everybody wins here.

    As an added benefit, Manning would be out of the AFC.

    GO BRONCOS !!!

  55. insider7 says: Jul 26, 2011 5:38 AM

    “Lee Harvey” Manning is clearly – and publicly – placing himself ahead of his team, something that Brady never did during his contract negotiations.

    This factor will play into the ongoing debate…who would you rather have on your team, Brady or Manning?

  56. billinlouisiana says: Jul 26, 2011 5:51 AM

    Seems Manning screwed himself on this. The Colts tried to offer a deal shortly after the season started last year and he refused to even look at the offer.

  57. Jose Reyes says: Jul 26, 2011 6:30 AM

    I don’t understand where the drive to pay him more than Brady comes from. I mean, why? Is it a mechanism to play to Manning’s pride? If so, that’s super childish.

  58. dontouchmyjunk says: Jul 26, 2011 6:40 AM

    It’s funny how nobody ever says “Jim Irsay has more money than his great-grandchildren will ever need”, or “Jerry Jones has more money than his great-great grandchildren will ever need”. Players have a limit to how much they ought to be able to earn. Yet owners, (you know, the guys who charge you full freight for fake exhibition games) and who receive corporate welfare from taxpayers and get special anti-trust exemptions from the Feds, have no limit to how much they ought to be able to earn.

  59. greenbaypeckers says: Jul 26, 2011 6:50 AM

    Especially one who is 35 yrs old and has had 2 neck surgeries in the last 15 months……maybe he would like some money spent on his oline or rb to give him some protection, but hey, that’s money out of his pocket.

  60. aldavisisthenfl says: Jul 26, 2011 7:00 AM

    Low ball him, everyone else is in the same boat.
    Same thing goes for Nnamdi……

  61. daburgher says: Jul 26, 2011 7:01 AM

    This guy was the 10th highest rated QB last season.. and with another neck surgery, he doesnt break the top 10 this year.. no way he should make even 15 million.. i’m glad this shmuck isn’t on my team

  62. ham1 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:02 AM

    “make more money than Brady”

    Why? Is it because he has more Super Bowl wins than Brady?

  63. dickroy says: Jul 26, 2011 7:12 AM

    I could end up remembering him for his greed, instead of his accomplishments.

  64. dirtdawg55 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:26 AM

    Peyton’s legacy? 11 years with 10 or more wins. 8 years with 12 or more wins. But 7 one and done’s in the playoffs. Seven! 1 SB. 9 and 10 record in the playoffs.

    Has had a QB rating of less than 40 only five times, but three of those came in the playoffs. Playoff rating is about 6 points less than regular season rating.

    One of the greatest ever. In the regular season. One of the most pedestrian ever when the chips are on the line.

    He deserves most pay ever if you want him to win another 12 games. But then you have to be happy with going home soon after. Or, you could start the process of finding a QB who might actually win the big games for you. Take your pick.

  65. pigskin28 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:42 AM

    Too early to trade him, however 25 mil would ctipple the team. Most teams with the type of personnel that would allow Manning to win are set at qb cept maybe Az. No way they dish out fhe coin for Manning.
    Manning thinks he has more levaerage than reality suggest.

  66. jjrs89 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:43 AM

    If he really wants to make extra money, they could show the games on his forehead and it would rival the huge screen in the new dallas cowboy stadium

  67. kingmj4891 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:53 AM

    He trying to get as much money as possible so when he and Eli are done they can buy a team.

  68. kom2k10 says: Jul 26, 2011 7:59 AM

    if anything, Brady is the one that was proven to be overpaid… when he goes down, they throw in a backup that literally never started a game in college or pros and he goes on to win 11 games! Brady won the lottery playing for the pats, and so did cassel.

    manning has to carry the volts every year… he’s worth the money

  69. 4ever19 says: Jul 26, 2011 8:00 AM

    At $20 M, Peyton still would be the highest paid. He is greedy greedy greedy. The backlash already has begun in this corner of Colts Nation. We need him yes, but he needs guys around him on both sides of the ball. To not see that he would have to be a bigger Boehn-head than the GOP “leader” on the debt limit talks.

  70. NFLJunkie says: Jul 26, 2011 8:02 AM

    (toddyarbroughjr says):

    Not taking anything away from Brady, but he has always been surrounded by talent, whereas Manning can make mediocre players look like Pro-bowlers.
    —————————–

    This premise makes me laugh. But even if I believed that guys like Harrison, Wayne, Clark, James, and Addai (for example) were mediocre imposters not worthy of being first round picks while Brady was consistently surrounded by better talent, I think you’re missing Irsay’s point entirely.

    Hard to afford talent spread equally across the roster when you have so much money tied up in one player.

  71. robschwartzberg says: Jul 26, 2011 8:04 AM

    Peyton will not want to retire with the same number of rings as Trent Dilfer and Brad (I didn’t even start in college) Johnson. Or will he?

  72. m2karateman says: Jul 26, 2011 8:14 AM

    Greatest QB of all time?! He’s not even the greatest QB of HIS time. Peyton is a great QB, no doubt about it. But he’s been outshined by a former sixth round draft pick (Tom Brady) who has won more SBs than him. Hell, even Big Ben has won more than him.

    Greatest QB of all time? Not hardly. Greediest QB of all time? That’s something he’s got a shot at winning.

  73. dexterismyhero says: Jul 26, 2011 8:16 AM

    @4ever19 says:
    Jul 26, 2011 8:00 AM
    ===================================
    Irsay said he would make him the highest paid player. That doesn’t make PM greedy. I haven’t heard any type of backlash.

    Maybe because you are a flaming liberal who agrees with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the POTUS.

  74. jnbnet says: Jul 26, 2011 8:27 AM

    I don’t understand what the obsession is with signing for more than Brady.

    ================================

    This allows him to feel that he is better than Brady. He equates making more money with being better.

  75. eagleswin says: Jul 26, 2011 8:27 AM

    A great deal of Mannings success can be broken down into 2 categories.

    1. Same offensive scheme his entire career. He could call a play from 9 years ago and it’s the same play today.
    2. Indy consistantly uses it’s high picks on offensive skill players. To say Manning isn’t surrounded by alot of talent is ridiculous. The fact that he had an all-pro like harrison catching his passes during his glory years didn’t hurt.

    You take Peyton out of Indy and he’ll perform way below expectations unless you surround him with tons of offensive talent and use the exact same system he’s used his entire career. Other than when he was a rookie he never had to deal with a “learning curve”.

  76. redrew says: Jul 26, 2011 8:29 AM

    Attention Colts homers: Stop polluting this board with delusional comments that Brady has been surrounded by talent while Manning has had to do it all alone.
    Every year Polian surrounds Manning with 1st round WRs, RBs, OTs, TEs. On the other hand, Belichich has used ONE 1st round pick on offense since Brady became starter…an OG using the 32nd pick of the draft.
    Brady was winning SuperBowls with midround and castoff WRs. The one year that Belichick upgraded Brady’s weapons via trades, the Patriots set the league scoring record.
    And finally, check out Brady’s stats playing indoors….puts Manning to shame. Ever year Brady plays outdoors in NE, Buff, NYJ…often in blizzard conditions, while Manning gets room temperature windless conditions.
    So lets review, Manning gets ALL the team assets, the ideal environment to succeeed, and all the money….and one ring…..ALL WORLD BEST EVER

  77. marima07 says: Jul 26, 2011 8:51 AM

    It’s always been Peyton Manning’s mantra that the higher the contract he – or Brady – gets, is in the best interest of future quarterbacks in the league because it sets the negotiating points high for their contracts.

    So… Colts’ fans will try to convince you that Manning is only being unselfish and acting as a true leader while they watch him squeeze the most money he can get for himself from ownership.

  78. richm2256 says: Jul 26, 2011 8:56 AM

    toddyarbroughjr says:
    Not taking anything away from Brady, but he has always been surrounded by talent, whereas Manning can make mediocre players look like Pro-bowlers.
    ———————————————————
    You’re kidding us, right?

    Name three “all Pro’s” that Tom Brady has had on offense…. just three.

    Peyton Manning has had all-Pro level running backs (Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Dominic Rhodes) and Hall of Fame caliber receivers (Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark), plus Jeff Saturday.

    Brady had Randy Moss for two of his nine seasons, an end-of-career Corey Dillon, and Reche Caldwell, for God’s sakes. Oh, and Wes Welker, who most of you think is overated.

    Please.

  79. homelanddefense says: Jul 26, 2011 11:06 AM

    “Not taking anything away from Brady, but he has always been surrounded by talent, whereas Manning can make mediocre players look like Pro-bowlers.”

    What is this revisionist history all about? Maybe last year Peyton had mediocre players, but go back thru his career, he has always had at least 2, sometimes 3 probowl options to throw to (Clark, Harrison, Wayne)

    Brady was the guy who won superbowls with Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Deion Branch etc.

  80. CKL says: Jul 26, 2011 11:36 AM

    dontouchmyjunk says:
    Jul 26, 2011 6:40 AM
    It’s funny how nobody ever says “Jim Irsay has more money than his great-grandchildren will ever need”, or “Jerry Jones has more money than his great-great grandchildren will ever need”. Players have a limit to how much they ought to be able to earn. Yet owners, (you know, the guys who charge you full freight for fake exhibition games) and who receive corporate welfare from taxpayers and get special anti-trust exemptions from the Feds, have no limit to how much they ought to be able to earn.
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    Dude, no offense but tons of people bash the owners for greed, especially on here during the lockout.

    Thing is that with someone like Manning, if his goal is to make the most possible $$ ever, it hurts his team. I think that’s what angers non-Colts fans. If Irsay wants to maximize his team revenues, doing things like selling the stadium naming rights doesn’t hurt anyone or hurt their chances of getting to a SB. And now with high dollar maxing owners like Kraft and Jones giving more to owners who don’t seem to care as much about winning like Brown and Bidwell (Bidwill? I always screw that up!) they have done their part IMO to do what’s best for their “team” meaning NFL and competitive balance. Hell they have to pay a 10 % tax for being good businessmen…but it helps keep the other owners in business.

    I personally have 0 issue with anyone making whatever anyone offers them within the rules/ ethics. All players who clock large bank aren’t bad or good, same for owners. Once you affect other people negatively and unnecessarily so or you seem selfish, you deserve criticism, be it owner or player.

  81. bucckevin says: Jul 26, 2011 12:22 PM

    Brady deserves his money. 6 years ago, he took less pay and made his contract cap friendly so his team could stay competitive. Now he is finally being paid what he’s worth.

    Manning just wants to be paid more than Brady so he can think he’s better. I hope he cripples his team financially. $25M per year. make it happen

  82. atron1 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:29 PM

    Peyton Manning is them best qb in the game but 25 millon is too much. But another problem is who are they gonna sign the Colts don’t sign free agents because they’re not good at it remember Corey Simon. They need to draft better on the defensive and offensive line because they can’t run it and they can’t stop it. The year they did they won the SB.

  83. slice60 says: Jul 26, 2011 8:31 PM

    I have a feeling Peyton (or maybe the Manning family) will OWN an NFL franchise in the future. And that takes many, many millions to reach that sale price.

    Do I want Peyton to give the Colts “a hometown discount” in order to field a better team?
    Of course I do.

    Does Peyton deserve every dollar he can get?
    Of course he does.
    Without him, there is no Lucas Oil Stadium, no 2012 Super Bowl in Indy, maybe no team in Indy at all!

  84. Rockets GM says: Jul 27, 2011 8:25 AM

    I don’t care what they pay him… he should remain a Colt. PERIOD.

  85. pubobby2004 says: Jul 27, 2011 8:49 AM

    rangenius says: Jul 26, 2011 12:42 AM

    Manning has only won a single Superbowl and it was against Grossman and weak Bear team. Now you gonna pay him 20 mil? He’s old. Let him walk…

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    for years the AFC Championship has been the defacto superbowl. look at some of the other superbowl losers. especially the ones vanquished by the pats. terrible. however, it’s a playoff system. so there is no possible way to argue that the best 2 teams at that time weren’t represented.

    regarding the “he’s old. let him walk”; you’re an idiot. sorry there’s no better way to say it. Our backup QB is Curtis Painter. we may go 0-16 without the “old” guy. with him, we’re still a 10-14 win team until he literally can’t throw the ball 25 yards.

  86. jasonculhane says: Jul 28, 2011 3:07 PM

    Its pretty clear Peyton Manning isn’t that interested in re-signing with the Colts. He is tagged though, so he will play football, probably for the Colts this year unless they trade him, which maybe they should at this time consider, I know it sounds crazy, but he’s almost forcing the hand.

    But there have been some reports that he hasn’t signed the Franchise Tag whatever that means. Its fair to say that at this time, he wants very little to do with the Colts Team. There are many reasons to consider why, my guess is because he’s an older quarterback and the organization is going through a turnover of coaches and management, with the roster having “Carolinalike” talent. Consider all these options then if your Peyton your asking yourself “if I were to start over, why not do it with a completely different team with great young prospects, as does the Lions, Arizona, SanFransico”. Those rosters are all more talented then the Colts if you take away Manning.

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