But there have been some reports that he hasn’t signed the Franchise Tag whatever that means. Its fair to say that at this time, he wants very little to do with the Colts Team. There are many reasons to consider why, my guess is because he’s an older quarterback and the organization is going through a turnover of coaches and management, with the roster having “Carolinalike” talent. Consider all these options then if your Peyton your asking yourself “if I were to start over, why not do it with a completely different team with great young prospects, as does the Lions, Arizona, SanFransico”. Those rosters are all more talented then the Colts if you take away Manning.

Manning has only won a single Superbowl and it was against Grossman and weak Bear team. Now you gonna pay him 20 mil? He’s old. Let him walk…

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for years the AFC Championship has been the defacto superbowl. look at some of the other superbowl losers. especially the ones vanquished by the pats. terrible. however, it’s a playoff system. so there is no possible way to argue that the best 2 teams at that time weren’t represented.

regarding the “he’s old. let him walk”; you’re an idiot. sorry there’s no better way to say it. Our backup QB is Curtis Painter. we may go 0-16 without the “old” guy. with him, we’re still a 10-14 win team until he literally can’t throw the ball 25 yards.

Do I want Peyton to give the Colts “a hometown discount” in order to field a better team?
Of course I do.

Does Peyton deserve every dollar he can get?
Of course he does.
Without him, there is no Lucas Oil Stadium, no 2012 Super Bowl in Indy, maybe no team in Indy at all!

Manning just wants to be paid more than Brady so he can think he’s better. I hope he cripples his team financially. $25M per year. make it happen

Thing is that with someone like Manning, if his goal is to make the most possible $$ ever, it hurts his team. I think that’s what angers non-Colts fans. If Irsay wants to maximize his team revenues, doing things like selling the stadium naming rights doesn’t hurt anyone or hurt their chances of getting to a SB. And now with high dollar maxing owners like Kraft and Jones giving more to owners who don’t seem to care as much about winning like Brown and Bidwell (Bidwill? I always screw that up!) they have done their part IMO to do what’s best for their “team” meaning NFL and competitive balance. Hell they have to pay a 10 % tax for being good businessmen…but it helps keep the other owners in business.

I personally have 0 issue with anyone making whatever anyone offers them within the rules/ ethics. All players who clock large bank aren’t bad or good, same for owners. Once you affect other people negatively and unnecessarily so or you seem selfish, you deserve criticism, be it owner or player.

What is this revisionist history all about? Maybe last year Peyton had mediocre players, but go back thru his career, he has always had at least 2, sometimes 3 probowl options to throw to (Clark, Harrison, Wayne)

Brady was the guy who won superbowls with Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Deion Branch etc.

Name three “all Pro’s” that Tom Brady has had on offense…. just three.

Peyton Manning has had all-Pro level running backs (Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Dominic Rhodes) and Hall of Fame caliber receivers (Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark), plus Jeff Saturday.

Brady had Randy Moss for two of his nine seasons, an end-of-career Corey Dillon, and Reche Caldwell, for God’s sakes. Oh, and Wes Welker, who most of you think is overated.

Please.

So… Colts’ fans will try to convince you that Manning is only being unselfish and acting as a true leader while they watch him squeeze the most money he can get for himself from ownership.

1. Same offensive scheme his entire career. He could call a play from 9 years ago and it’s the same play today.
2. Indy consistantly uses it’s high picks on offensive skill players. To say Manning isn’t surrounded by alot of talent is ridiculous. The fact that he had an all-pro like harrison catching his passes during his glory years didn’t hurt.

You take Peyton out of Indy and he’ll perform way below expectations unless you surround him with tons of offensive talent and use the exact same system he’s used his entire career. Other than when he was a rookie he never had to deal with a “learning curve”.

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This allows him to feel that he is better than Brady. He equates making more money with being better.

Maybe because you are a flaming liberal who agrees with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the POTUS.

Greatest QB of all time? Not hardly. Greediest QB of all time? That’s something he’s got a shot at winning.

Not taking anything away from Brady, but he has always been surrounded by talent, whereas Manning can make mediocre players look like Pro-bowlers.
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This premise makes me laugh. But even if I believed that guys like Harrison, Wayne, Clark, James, and Addai (for example) were mediocre imposters not worthy of being first round picks while Brady was consistently surrounded by better talent, I think you’re missing Irsay’s point entirely.

Hard to afford talent spread equally across the roster when you have so much money tied up in one player.

manning has to carry the volts every year… he’s worth the money

Has had a QB rating of less than 40 only five times, but three of those came in the playoffs. Playoff rating is about 6 points less than regular season rating.

One of the greatest ever. In the regular season. One of the most pedestrian ever when the chips are on the line.

He deserves most pay ever if you want him to win another 12 games. But then you have to be happy with going home soon after. Or, you could start the process of finding a QB who might actually win the big games for you. Take your pick.

Why? Is it because he has more Super Bowl wins than Brady?