Comments on: Minimum salaries shoot up under new deal

By: drpeppermd

drpeppermd — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:55:41 +0000

Jesus, there’s a lot of stupidity here in the comments. This isn’t something new. The minimum salary has ALWAYS gone up based on seniority. There’s been a thing where veterans who sign a one year deal for the minimum only count like $450k against the salary cap so that the veterans don’t get screwed. I very much doubt that the players would let that go away. In other words, same old same old.

By: liltifer

liltifer — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:16:41 +0000

“Tiki’s head just hit the table: Who will want to pay him $910,000 guaranteed to be a 3rd down back?”

Tiki wasn’t going to sign for the old minimum or the new minimum. With less money going to unproven rookies just because they got drafted high, there’s more to go around to the vets.

By: stealthjunk

stealthjunk — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:53:49 +0000

What a stupid system — good for young players, bad for vets at the tailend of their careers. I guarantee there will be veterans out there with 10+ years experience that would cut off their right pinky finger to play for only $500k/year. But no, the NFLPA says that is not OK and NFL owners will instead opt for younger players. Ironically, I bet the NFLPA thought this was a “win” in negotiations.

By: charleswoodson

charleswoodson — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:28:18 +0000

Tiki’s head just hit the table: Who will want to pay him $910,000 guaranteed to be a 3rd down back?

He was better off with the old minimum wage for 8+ year veterans.

Oh well, there’s always broadcasting. Whoops. Been there, failed that.

By: phreakin

phreakin — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:04:56 +0000

encinitasraider: Al Davis is someone who OVERPAYS practically everyone. So I doubt that was the reason.

By: alphaq2

alphaq2 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:03:49 +0000

I would say that its the veterans that will get the short end of the stick. I bet guys will be forced to retire a bit early because owners won’t want to pay such high minimum sallaries.

By: dcsween

dcsween — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:55:57 +0000

dcbassguy says:
Jul 25, 2011 4:33 PM

If as a GM you can save money by using 1st and 2nd year guys on special teams instead on 4th or 5th year guys, the leaves those GM’s more money at the top.

I’d be more concerned as an entry level player 4 or 5 years in.

>>>>>> Are you suggesting that John Beck should be concerned?

By: encinitasraider

encinitasraider — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:52:15 +0000

WTF? How does the NFL get to tell a franchise how to pay thier players? You pay players what there worth.
The only reason this was put into place was because of cheap arse teams not spending money. This is another reason AL DAVIS was against this deal.
The NFL is turning into a joke……

By: thefiesty1

thefiesty1 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:51:46 +0000

Poor guys are starving to death. How are the going to put food on the table? Good grief! The owners gave away the bank.

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:46:12 +0000

touchdownroddywhite says:
Jul 25, 2011 4:18 PM
Two years entails a raise of 40%…. I wish that applied at any place I’ve ever worked.

Such a bad deal those players had to get ironed out…
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Again, the PLAYERS had no need to get deal to get a deal “ironed out”. It was the OWNER’s who decided the deal needed to be redone.

Thank God there is no opt out this time so that the billionaire businessman owners can’t decide in 5 years that they want to take ANOTHER shot at besting a group of football players in a negotiation.

Because their track record so far? Not so great.

By: deconjonesbitchslap

deconjonesbitchslap — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:45:28 +0000

not bad for a job that you do for HALF a year.

“oh but we work out in the offseason”

pooooooorrrrr babies!

By: pacificnw7722

pacificnw7722 — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:38:04 +0000

“The good news for undrafted players is that, if they make a team, they’ll make a lot more money.”

More incentive to give it your all…….better for the game.

By: smacklayer

smacklayer — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:35:14 +0000

The problem with this kind of pay schedule is that unless you are a rock star player, look to be cut as you age. Look for this league to continue to get younger and younger. Even if you are a 10 year vet but still have a lot to contribute, you can’t take a pay cut to compete with a 2 or 3 year vet. Look for guys like LT and Moss to not play this year.

By: dcbassguy

dcbassguy — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:33:12 +0000

This really makes first year players more appealing.

If as a GM you can save money by using 1st and 2nd year guys on special teams instead on 4th or 5th year guys, the leaves those GM’s more money at the top.

I’d be more concerned as an entry level player 4 or 5 years in.

By: bluvayner

bluvayner — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:32:13 +0000

The drastically escalating minimum salary scale will serve to shorten careers. If a ten year vet and a second year player are both on the bubble, who do you think that they’ll keep? If a 10 year vet, and is willing to play for less than $910k, he should be allowed to.

By: lgbarn

lgbarn — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:26:53 +0000

broncobeta says:Jul 25, 2011 4:19 PM

Oh to be 300 pounds…

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You have to be able to do damage of a Bull Elephant that’s gone off the game reserve, not some guy looking to get his stomach stapled because he can’t stop eating twinkies…BIG DIFFERENCE

By: dcsween

dcsween — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:24:25 +0000

Is it annual or divided per game? Lots of these UDFAs are not going to get picked up even with the training camp roster expansions, but UDFAs will get picked up all season long as injuries will increase (due to the shortened off-season). On balance, seems like a wash … just different, not good or bad.

By: rcali

rcali — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:22:33 +0000

And most NFL players are broke just after a few years after leaving the NFL? ONE CAR! ONE HOUSE! NO MR. T STARTER SETS!

By: profootballwalk

profootballwalk — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:21:18 +0000

touchdownroddywhite says: Jul 25, 2011 4:18 PM

Two years entails a raise of 40%…. I wish that applied at any place I’ve ever worked.

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So what does that tell you about yourself?

By: broncobeta

broncobeta — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:19:00 +0000

Oh to be 300 pounds…

By: touchdownroddywhite

touchdownroddywhite — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:18:41 +0000

Two years entails a raise of 40%…. I wish that applied at any place I’ve ever worked.

Such a bad deal those players had to get ironed out…

By: skoobyfl

skoobyfl — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:17:13 +0000

Well there’s a plus.