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	<title>Comments on: New CBA has protections for career-ending injuries</title>
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		<title>By: sanjose61</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/new-cba-has-protections-for-career-ending-injuries/#comment-1143466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sanjose61]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bcgreg and dcbassguy,

Thanks.

I see it was explained much better in the SI/Peter King link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bcgreg and dcbassguy,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I see it was explained much better in the SI/Peter King link.</p>
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		<title>By: KIR</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/new-cba-has-protections-for-career-ending-injuries/#comment-1142533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KIR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bleedgreen

I’m pretty sure you don’t have to pay an agent a fee for an injury related insurance settlement. And lawyers fees for an injury settlement should be provided by the Union. 
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Wrong again my clueless friend. Those agents fees are earned when the rookie contract is first negotiated. Obviously, you&#039;ve never been around money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bleedgreen</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure you don’t have to pay an agent a fee for an injury related insurance settlement. And lawyers fees for an injury settlement should be provided by the Union.<br />
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<p>Wrong again my clueless friend. Those agents fees are earned when the rookie contract is first negotiated. Obviously, you&#8217;ve never been around money.</p>
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		<title>By: dcbassguy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/new-cba-has-protections-for-career-ending-injuries/#comment-1142386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dcbassguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From MMQB

&quot;Guaranteed contracts for injury. This went over everyone&#039;s heads all weekend. Let&#039;s say a player signs a three-year, $6-million contract with a $2-million bonus and salaries of $1.1 million, $1.3 million and $1.6 million. And say he gets a career-ending injury in game five of the first season. He keeps his bonus. He keeps his first-year salary. That&#039;s normal. Now he&#039;d get to keep $1 million of his year-two salary and $500,000 of year three. In the old days, he&#039;d have been able to keep the bonus and year-one salary, a total of $3.1 million. Now he&#039;d be able to pocket $4.6 million because of the maximum of $1.5 million in injury-protection money.&quot;

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/07/24/labor/index.html#ixzz1T89XDMzy


I trust the way he breaks it down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From MMQB</p>
<p>&#8220;Guaranteed contracts for injury. This went over everyone&#8217;s heads all weekend. Let&#8217;s say a player signs a three-year, $6-million contract with a $2-million bonus and salaries of $1.1 million, $1.3 million and $1.6 million. And say he gets a career-ending injury in game five of the first season. He keeps his bonus. He keeps his first-year salary. That&#8217;s normal. Now he&#8217;d get to keep $1 million of his year-two salary and $500,000 of year three. In the old days, he&#8217;d have been able to keep the bonus and year-one salary, a total of $3.1 million. Now he&#8217;d be able to pocket $4.6 million because of the maximum of $1.5 million in injury-protection money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/07/24/labor/index.html#ixzz1T89XDMzy" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/07/24/labor/index.html#ixzz1T89XDMzy</a></p>
<p>I trust the way he breaks it down.</p>
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		<title>By: bcgreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcgreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ sanjose61

If a rookie gets injured in year 1, he keeps his year 1 salary AND signing bonus.

THEN, if years 2-4 of his rookie contract total MORE than $1.5 million (say $2M), then he&#039;ll only get $1.5 million as protection (losing out on $500K).

If years 2-4 of his rookie contract total LESS than $1.5 million (say $1M) , then he&#039;ll get that full $1M.

Meaning the most he&#039;d get as protection for career ending injury is $1.5M.  Before, they got nothing.  So, it is a better deal for the players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ sanjose61</p>
<p>If a rookie gets injured in year 1, he keeps his year 1 salary AND signing bonus.</p>
<p>THEN, if years 2-4 of his rookie contract total MORE than $1.5 million (say $2M), then he&#8217;ll only get $1.5 million as protection (losing out on $500K).</p>
<p>If years 2-4 of his rookie contract total LESS than $1.5 million (say $1M) , then he&#8217;ll get that full $1M.</p>
<p>Meaning the most he&#8217;d get as protection for career ending injury is $1.5M.  Before, they got nothing.  So, it is a better deal for the players.</p>
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		<title>By: thetooloftools</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetooloftools]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the 1.5 million is the MAX. 
A player could have 3 million remaining on his deal, but he would only get 1.5. 
if he was to make 750,000, he wouldn&#039;t get any more then that, but would be paid off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 1.5 million is the MAX.<br />
A player could have 3 million remaining on his deal, but he would only get 1.5.<br />
if he was to make 750,000, he wouldn&#8217;t get any more then that, but would be paid off.</p>
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		<title>By: bcgreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcgreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or you could just have a great owner like Robert Kraft, who took care of Robert Edwards after a career ending, off seaon injury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could just have a great owner like Robert Kraft, who took care of Robert Edwards after a career ending, off seaon injury.</p>
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		<title>By: bleedgreen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bleedgreen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@KIR

I&#039;m pretty sure you don&#039;t have to pay an agent a fee for an injury related insurance settlement. And lawyers fees for an injury settlement should be provided by the Union. 

If you&#039;re gross is 2 million, and you&#039;re going to pay taxes on it no matter what, you still end up with over a million dollars. If its invested properly and you live within your means, you should be able to live the rest of your life.

Of course most people here would get a million bucks and immediately go buy a Bentley and party like its going out of style, so I wouldn&#039;t expect anyone to really understand how to live an extended period of time on a lump sum of cash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KIR</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure you don&#8217;t have to pay an agent a fee for an injury related insurance settlement. And lawyers fees for an injury settlement should be provided by the Union. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re gross is 2 million, and you&#8217;re going to pay taxes on it no matter what, you still end up with over a million dollars. If its invested properly and you live within your means, you should be able to live the rest of your life.</p>
<p>Of course most people here would get a million bucks and immediately go buy a Bentley and party like its going out of style, so I wouldn&#8217;t expect anyone to really understand how to live an extended period of time on a lump sum of cash.</p>
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		<title>By: sanjose61</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/new-cba-has-protections-for-career-ending-injuries/#comment-1142273</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sanjose61]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it just me or does it seem like this sentence by Rosenthal was reversed?

&quot;So if the rest of the rookie’s contract in years two-through-four totaled more than $1.5 million, he would get $1.5 million.  If the remainder of the rookie’s contract was less than $1.5 million, he would get all the money due to him.&quot;

That&#039;s saying that the player would get the lesser of the two amounts… shouldn&#039;t he be getting no less than $1.5 million?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does it seem like this sentence by Rosenthal was reversed?</p>
<p>&#8220;So if the rest of the rookie’s contract in years two-through-four totaled more than $1.5 million, he would get $1.5 million.  If the remainder of the rookie’s contract was less than $1.5 million, he would get all the money due to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s saying that the player would get the lesser of the two amounts… shouldn&#8217;t he be getting no less than $1.5 million?</p>
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		<title>By: KIR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KIR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bleedgreen 

You ever heard of taxes agents and attorney fees? Now, how much do you have to live on for the rest of your life? What a dumb azz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bleedgreen </p>
<p>You ever heard of taxes agents and attorney fees? Now, how much do you have to live on for the rest of your life? What a dumb azz.</p>
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		<title>By: m2karateman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m2karateman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question, how would the cap be impacted by this?  Would the remaining years paid out be protected from being included in the salary cap?

@bleedgreen - you need to read this more closely.  The players don&#039;t get a $1.5M payout, plus their salary.  They get $1.5M maximum.  Some players may get far less (imagine a UDFA making rookie minimum for three years with no bonus).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question, how would the cap be impacted by this?  Would the remaining years paid out be protected from being included in the salary cap?</p>
<p>@bleedgreen &#8211; you need to read this more closely.  The players don&#8217;t get a $1.5M payout, plus their salary.  They get $1.5M maximum.  Some players may get far less (imagine a UDFA making rookie minimum for three years with no bonus).</p>
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		<title>By: bleedgreen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bleedgreen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a bad deal, if the player is intelligent. If someone handed me a million and a half dollars, plus the hundreds of thousands, if not millions from my salary + signing bonus, I could probably live pretty comfortably the rest of my life without working. If you can get a 5% return on $2M, thats $100K a year in interest alone. If you bought a $350-400K house cash, and had no debt, you&#039;d be pretty ballin with $100K a year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad deal, if the player is intelligent. If someone handed me a million and a half dollars, plus the hundreds of thousands, if not millions from my salary + signing bonus, I could probably live pretty comfortably the rest of my life without working. If you can get a 5% return on $2M, thats $100K a year in interest alone. If you bought a $350-400K house cash, and had no debt, you&#8217;d be pretty ballin with $100K a year.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmysee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmysee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably covered by an insurance policy taken by each owner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably covered by an insurance policy taken by each owner.</p>
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