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Your Kevin Kolb sweepstakes update

Kevin Kolb, Anthony Spencer AP

Plenty of folks expected a Kevin Kolb trade to be agreed to sometime around 10:01 a.m. ET on Tuesday.  That clearly isn’t going to happen.

We’ve seen a lot of reports about Kolb out there, and they repeat the same point: This could take time.

Adam Caplan of FoxSports.com writes that the Seahawks remain interested in Kolb.  Paul Domowitch of the Philadelphia Daily News says there will be no Kolb announcement Tuesday.  (No surprise there.)

Jason La Canfora reports the Eagles would want a first round pick from Seattle, and that perhaps the Seahawks don’t have a veteran player they want.   He also said that no contract talks have taken place between Kolb and other team.

The Cardinals, meanwhile, are working “several fronts” at quarterback according to Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic. It makes sense for them to hold on to some leverage with Kolb by having other options.

Kolb did not show up to the Eagles facility on Tuesday, which is no surprise.  We’ve said it for a while: We’d be shocked if Kolb doesn’t wind up in Seattle or Arizona.

The Eagles will probably try to play the NFC West rivals against each other.

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96 Responses to “Your Kevin Kolb sweepstakes update”
  1. trbowman says: Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM

    Kevin Kolb finna come to the desert.

    And I can’t wait.

  2. andyreidisfat says: Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM

    They better do something. If they miss the boat on a top corner because they are trying to get a 1st instead of a 2nd with DRC and they miss the boat all together on all the other free agents they are going to look relly stupid and Reid may just get booed right out of Philly

  3. goldeelox says: Jul 26, 2011 1:38 PM

    Reassuring picture.

  4. phillychzstk2012 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:38 PM

    i just want to get rid of him honestly. not that i dont like him. im just growing tired of all the trade talks

  5. shamburg says: Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM

    Hurry up and cash in that chip, Eagles!

  6. jakek2 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM

    Kevin Kolb “sweepstakes”? If he is a “sweepstakes”, what do you call the 50 other FAs that are 10x better than Kolb? LOL

  7. feldman9000 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM

    Kevin Kolb is the next great QB….of the Seattle Seachickens.

  8. dcbassguy says: Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM

    Make this happen as quickly as possible, before the Cardinals and Seahawks realize how bad he becomes once there is any pressure on him.

    He kills bad teams, and gets killed by good teams. Go look over the stats and see where he has done his damage.

    I think Rodgers-Cromartie is a joke as well, but I’d rather have him and a pick than Kolb. DRC will be a great 3rd CB once the Eagles sign Nmandi.

  9. drop703 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:42 PM

    Broncos just put Orton on the block…Is Kevin really better than Kyle? Keep DRC, trade for Orton and win the West…after all, Orton has proven that he’s a winner.

  10. shieldsisland37 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM

    Can someone explain to me why Kolb is more appealing then a rookie option? What has this guy done except get thrashed by Clay Matthews? Im not bashing or hating, but a 1st round pick?

  11. jaseguy30 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM

    Music City needs Kevin Kolb. If I was Philly though, I wouldn’t be letting him go. You can count on Vick missing 2-3 games this season. You need someone like Kolb who can come in and make plays in that case. You gotta pay to play.

    But, as a Titans fan, i’ll trade you Vince Young for him straight up.

  12. laeaglefan says: Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM

    The Eagles won’t wait for a resolution on Kolb to talk to free agent cornerbacks. If they can sign one that they like better than DRC then the Cardinals will have to come up with another option that the Eagles want. It may take a while to flesh out the market for Kolb. The Eagles would be best served to not be in a rush to trade him.

  13. hendawg21 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    So tell me why and what has he done to make Silly I mean Philly think he’s worth a 1st round pick+ hmmm, I’m still trying to understand the hype about Kolb someone please fill me in!

  14. marcus158 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    Please…as a Cardinals fan….GO AND GET ORTON!!!

  15. robthevoice says: Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    Kevin Kolb is not going to be the man you want him to be cards, and Hawks.. There is a lot to learn, very little time, and no chemistry makes it hard for me to see this as a successful year for Kolb and/or any QB that is going into a new system.

  16. manderson367 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    When is the last time the Eagles traded an effective QB away? Let Seattle take the risk. I’d rather see Orton in Cardinal Red.

  17. minormillikin says: Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM

    Someone needs to explain the Kolb hype. The stats definitely don’t justify it.

    It seems like Orton would be more of a sure thing (and cheaper) than Kolb, but for some reason people are just bored by him.

  18. chipwade says: Jul 26, 2011 1:45 PM

    Fragile Kevin Kolb is going to get lit up just like every Cards QB did last year. Their o-line may actually be worse this year.

  19. netherscourge says: Jul 26, 2011 1:45 PM

    Kevin Kolb is a completely overrated system QB.

    He will fail like AJ Feeley did in Miami.

    Eagles QB’s only look good in Eagles’ uniforms. Just ask Donovan McNabb.

  20. dan7800 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:45 PM

    Kevin Kolb = Rob Johnson

  21. azpackerbacker says: Jul 26, 2011 1:47 PM

    The cards are working on “several fronts”, Lord Favre?? For the love of god say that aint so!

  22. flutieflakes says: Jul 26, 2011 1:47 PM

    Really don’t understand why he is worth so much, I’d rather have Orton; he just isn’t that good. But people will be duped into that contract a la Carson Palmer.

  23. trbowman says: Jul 26, 2011 1:48 PM

    I won’t brag too much when Kolb leads the Cardinals to the post-season next year.

  24. moonischasinme says: Jul 26, 2011 1:49 PM

    A first round pick for a guy with a 3-4 record as a starter with 11 Tds and 14 INTs. Yeah that makes sense.

  25. hendawg21 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM

    If someone gives Philly anything of value for Kolb they should be fired… his stats shows he’s not worth what they are asking.

  26. packattack1967 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM

    I hope it’s someone on our schedule.

    Signed,

    Clay Matthews

  27. roniii says: Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM

    If my options are Kolb or Whitehurst Ill take Kolb all day.

  28. flagstaffphotos says: Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM

    Cards ought to kick the tires on old VY while they are at it. Maybe he would build one of those awesome steakhouses in Tempe.

  29. jacksaysfu says: Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM

    HATERS OH AND KOLB DESTROYED THE FALCONS SO GET UR STATS RIGHT dcbbassguy.

  30. riverhorsey says: Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM

    Kolb is not worth a first round pick, he hasn’t proven anything like that.

  31. gallaghedj311 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM

    For the idiots who don’t understand the first round pick for kolb discussion, he was drafted 36 overall. #32 was a first round pick. Soooooo kevin was really close to being drafted in the first round. Ever hear of google or wikipedia?

  32. We'reFineThere says: Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM

    For those who don’t understand the Kolb hype, google image search for some of his presidential poses.

  33. scoops1 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM

    Kolb is taking over for Steamin Willie Beamen

  34. goawayeverybody says: Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM

    Isn’t it nice to have real football stories and not “Chad Ochocinco has decided to try and fight an 800-pound shark” type stories?

  35. tformation says: Jul 26, 2011 1:56 PM

    Well, Kolb would be better than what the Cards have at the moment: next to nothing. Is he worth a 1st rounder? I’m not so sure…

    Trading/Value-wise, Philly appears to be playing its CARDS right.

  36. sj39 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:57 PM

    Man, if the Cards give up DRC for Kolb and the Hawks stick with Charlie Whats-his-name and the niners stand pat, Sam and the Rams are going to dominate that division.

  37. nineroutsider says: Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM

    “The Eagles will probably try to play the NFC West rivals against each other.”

    Good…hope one of them gets raided by the Eagles for Feeley…I mean Kolb.

  38. tb12eatitbitches says: Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM

    It’s going to be hilarious when Vick tears his ACL in week 4 trying to get on ESPN’s highlight of the night. And all you idiot Philly fans are gonna be begging you still had Kolb.

  39. steel6times says: Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM

    Can someone fill me in on why Kolb is such a hot commodity? I mean he’s about to turn 27, 11 career TDs to 14 INTs. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Where did this hype come from?

  40. hendawg21 says: Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM

    gallaghedj311 says:
    Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM
    For the idiots who don’t understand the first round pick for kolb discussion, he was drafted 36 overall. #32 was a first round pick. Soooooo kevin was really close to being drafted in the first round. Ever hear of google or wikipedia?

    Ah first being close only counts in horseshoes…and I think everyone is aware of when Kolb was drafted and on that note if anything they should be asking for a 2nd round pick in return there’s nothing he’s done that warrants anything higher…

  41. asublimeday says: Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM

    I love all these people calling Orton a “winner”. He had EXCELLENT defenses in chicago and got benched for grossman twice. He can’t complete a pass over 25 yards without looking like he just blew out his shoulder. He’s so boring and would never win a playoff game against a half-decent defense that defends the short-medium game well, because Orton has zero deep game.

    No running game, no defense, and noodle arm neckbeard at qb = 2-14. At least you’ll get luck!

  42. 15gb2 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM

    Neckbeard > Cornkolb.. any guy who can rock a neckbeard and a mullet is well worth having for your starting QB, pluss I heard orton is related to Kenny Powers

  43. oldblueeyes182 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM

    “He kills bad teams, and gets killed by good teams. Go look over the stats and see where he has done his damage.”

    Were the Falcons a bad team last year? I’m confused.

  44. goldeelox says: Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM

    Andy Reid likes this.

  45. deconjonesbitchslap says: Jul 26, 2011 2:02 PM

    Tavaris Jackson has done more in the NFL than Kevin Kolb. Why the mania over this?

  46. punkrock90 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:03 PM

    i hate how greedy eagles fans are they are always trying to get more than what their players are worth.I say f**k kolb and get orton he has better stats then him anyway I would never trade DRC for kolb let alone a first round pick.

  47. broncotis3000 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:05 PM

    Orton has debunked that noodle B.S…..He can get the ball downfield with no problem..ask Brandon Lloyd…Id send him to AZ..for Darnell Dockett and a draft pick.

  48. sj39 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:06 PM

    steel6times says:
    Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM

    Can someone fill me in on why Kolb is such a hot commodity? I mean he’s about to turn 27, 11 career TDs to 14 INTs. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Where did this hype come from?

    Andy Reid

  49. tb12eatitbitches says: Jul 26, 2011 2:06 PM

    Andy Reid is fat.

  50. leevi98 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:06 PM

    It amazes me how a QB can play a few games well and most average at best and be considered a top flight QB who has NEVER STARTED A FULL SEASON! He has only played 2 games well….TWO! His Qb rating is only 76.1 and He threw 7 Tds and 7 ints and was sacked 102 times!!!Shouldn’t that be better since he ONLY played a few games? In one of the two game he played “well” in vs the 49ers he was sacked 26 times! UGH!! Media has hyped this guy up…He is ok at best and fragile.

    any team who trades draft picks for him to come in and expect him to be the savior is dreaming LOL WHAT A JOKE! and the eagles are wanting a first rounder? WOW Just WOW!

  51. oldbyrd says: Jul 26, 2011 2:09 PM

    Last i saw kevin he was eating corn

  52. zeussuperman says: Jul 26, 2011 2:09 PM

    I’m sure that, if Kolb goes to the Cardinals and they win the West, all these people who have been saying “Kevin Kolb is a scrub, bring in first ballot HoF QB Kyle Orton!” will be pretending that they knew Kolb was the man all along.

    It’ll be pretty damn funny.

  53. tdk24 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:10 PM

    I don’t understand the hype with unproven commodities.

  54. zeckwreck says: Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    Here’s what I don’t get. How can people act like AZ has great weapons, when in fact it’s just Larry. No line, no running game, and Breaston is gone. How is this appealing to a QB again?

    At least the hawks have a revamped line, Marshawn Lynch, and a solid receiving corps. From a QB’s perspective, Seattle is the obvious choice.

  55. kolb2fitz says: Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    Philly is dropping the ball…getting greedy. DRC for Kolb is in itself a good trade for both teams. Their demands for a high pick on top of that is why the iggles suck and will suck for a long time. If im the cards I start IMMEDIATLY having serious talks with Denver. Kolb would be great but its time to crap or get off the pot….

  56. leevi98 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    jacksaysfu says: Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM

    HATERS OH AND KOLB DESTROYED THE FALCONS SO GET UR STATS RIGHT dcbbassguy.

    So your basing his worth on one game vs a very bad pass defense???? LOL

  57. zeussuperman says: Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM

    asublimeday says: Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM

    I love all these people calling Orton a “winner”. He had EXCELLENT defenses in chicago and got benched for grossman twice. He can’t complete a pass over 25 yards without looking like he just blew out his shoulder. He’s so boring and would never win a playoff game against a half-decent defense that defends the short-medium game well, because Orton has zero deep game.

    No running game, no defense, and noodle arm neckbeard at qb = 2-14. At least you’ll get luck!

    ————–

    Thank you! I agree that Kolb has a lot to prove and doesn’t have a lot of gametime experience… but do Cardinals fans ever watch Bears/Broncos games?

    Kolb is an unknown, but you know absolutely what you’re getting with Kyle Orton — total mediocrity.

  58. 15gb2 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:12 PM

    I don’t get how ppl say orton has no deep game, top 3 in QBs with cmpl of 25yrds or more.. I think he had 35 compl of 25yrds or more and 9 for 30 or more check ur stats dude.. orton made Brandon Lloyd look like Randy effin moss last year

  59. We'reFineThere says: Jul 26, 2011 2:13 PM

    ^^ are you sure you arent talking sack yards, bub? You think a 26 sack game slipped by us all but you?

  60. moonischasinme says: Jul 26, 2011 2:13 PM

    “For the idiots who don’t understand the first round pick for kolb discussion, he was drafted 36 overall. #32 was a first round pick. Soooooo kevin was really close to being drafted in the first round. Ever hear of google or wikipedia?”

    Donte Witner was a first round pick. Does he have first round value?

  61. dobolina says: Jul 26, 2011 2:15 PM

    Matt Flynn will be a better QB than Kolb.

  62. smackadabassmon says: Jul 26, 2011 2:17 PM

    15gb2 says: “Neckbeard > Cornkolb.. any guy who can rock a neckbeard and a mullet is well worth having for your starting QB, pluss I heard orton is related to Kenny Powers”

    Agreed, unless his name is Charlie Whitehurst…..

  63. 706vet says: Jul 26, 2011 2:22 PM

    minormilliken. I’ll try to explain the Kolb hype. Let’s closely examine the stats.

    2008, 2nd half at Ravens. Not good. The rest garbage time.

    2009 2 games started (1-1), 1 POW and bad game vs. Saints (SBChamp).
    Set NFL record for most yards thrown 1st 2 NFL starts.

    2010 Mauled by Clay Matthews, concussed in 2nd quarter (SBChampions). 5 more starts 2-2 + start with 3rd string offense in week 16 loss.

    Games in which Kolb starts and finishes in career (- Dallas 3rd string) 6 total, (3-3). 16 game projection 4,600 pass yards, 26 TD’s 18 picks. Not too bad. He’s smart, young, mobile in the pocket, commands the huddle, inexperienced, and his arm strength not great. he also had good receivers around him in Philly.

    He’s certainly worth a 1 + 3 or DRC + 3 or 4.

  64. romeisfallingagain says: Jul 26, 2011 2:23 PM

    This truly is A.J. Feeley all over again.

    Two years ago, the Chiefs traded just a second round pick for Matt Cassel. He was coming off a season in which he had to deal with the pressure of stepping in for the best QB in football, to which he responded by throwing for 3,700 yards and 21 TDs while going 10-5 as starter. The Pats also threw in Mike Vrabel in that trade.

    So if anyone could possibly explain to me how Kevin Kolb and his 11 TDs and 14 picks is worth a 1st rounder and possibly more, I’m all ears.

    Somebody is going to get hosed.

  65. gtmann says: Jul 26, 2011 2:25 PM

    The Eagles would be crazy to trade Kolb . We own him cheap (1.4 mil) . And with Vick’s style of play he is bound to get hurt . Plus I saw him regressing to his old Atlanta self late in the season .That pick to close the GB game was just STUPID ! It was 1st down , 33 sec on the clock , and he had Macklin wide open down the middle !!! When Vick goes down , or goes into meltdown , do you really want to hand the keys to Kafka who has NEVER taken a snap in a regular season game ?!!!

  66. tjv027 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:25 PM

    Anyone who thinks they’ve seen enough of Kolb on Sundays to decide if he’s for real or not is an idiot. If you don’t understand why you’d give up a first round pick for him, ask yourself this: if a loophole allowed Kevin Kolb to enter the NFL draft this last April, where would he be selected? That’s right, the first round.

    Kolb is a prospect, a prospect that has a chance of panning out and a chance of failing, just like any of the QBs that were taken in the draft last April. However, the luxury that teams have on Kolb is that they have about four full games of NFL quarterbacking that they can watch, as opposed to zero games of NFL quarterbacking that is available for quarterbacks they could draft in the first round. The Cards and Hawks will pay a premium for this information, not to mention how valuable that information is when it involves the most impactful position in professional sports.

  67. myeaglescantwin says: Jul 26, 2011 2:26 PM

    let me first say that i dont think KOLB is going to be elway.. but he is more talented than half the starters in the league.. he has more upside then a dated Orton who MIGHT have 1or 2 good seasons left. (before you preach on him, remember who he was in Chicago)

    the only knock on Kolb is his pop gun arm..
    I’ve seen Kolb play, honestly i wouldnt give a 3rd up for him. The dude cant throw more than 45 yds. (ask Riley Cooper).

    for you stat junkies who obviously havent seen him play, 4 int’s came against the best defense in the league in 09′ / ravens. discount that game and he is about .500 on Int to TD.

    Honestly i dont think he is worth even DRC straight up, but realisticly i see us only being able to get DRC& 4th rounder for him.

    Seattle, let go straight up Loffa Tatupo for Kolb..

    & after all this i would like everyone to remember AJ Feeley to Miami,, that was awesome.

  68. daburgher says: Jul 26, 2011 2:27 PM

    Enough about Kolb.. THe guy has done nothing in his career and theres a good chance he never will. OVERRATED

  69. Spencer says: Jul 26, 2011 2:29 PM

    Orton is driving Kolb’s price down, rightfully so.

  70. dcbassguy says: Jul 26, 2011 2:31 PM

    @jacksaysfu says: Jul 26, 2011 1:52 PM

    HATERS OH AND KOLB DESTROYED THE FALCONS SO GET UR STATS RIGHT dcbbassguy.
    ————————————————

    Do you even watch football? Did you see how bad the Falcons Pass defense was/is?

    The back end of that defense was in the bottom of all defensive categories.

  71. daburgher says: Jul 26, 2011 2:32 PM

    Cards fans are delusional.. there will be no post season with an unproven QB.. especially when your genius GM and coach keep trading away your best defenders

  72. emoser says: Jul 26, 2011 2:34 PM

    punkrock90 says:
    Jul 26, 2011 2:03 PM
    i hate how greedy eagles fans are they are always trying to get more than what their players are worth.I say f**k kolb and get orton he has better stats then him anyway I would never trade DRC for kolb let alone a first round pick.
    _______________
    I’m sorry punkrock. I’ll get back on the phone with the Cards and tell them that I, along with all of the other fans here in Philly, are sorry for being so unreasonable in these negotiations.

    But while we’re at it, do you think you and the other Cards fans could work out some kind of trade with us for Patrick Peterson through the message board here?

  73. thefiesty1 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:41 PM

    They better keep him to replace the dog fighter when he gets hurt.

  74. djax10isthebomb says: Jul 26, 2011 2:42 PM

    I’m going to laugh my butt off at a lot of people here if Kolb goes to Arizona or Seattle and tears it up.

    I think he’d excel more in Arizona with Fitz to rely on and a little better protection than Seattle, (a lil). If Big Mike Williams plays like he did last year or even improves, he’s going to be a real nice target to throw to also.

    One big problem, though,… is that Kolb is absolutely horrible at the long ball, he’s more of a game manager type…that’s why having an all pro like Larry to lean on would be perfect for a QB like Kevin. In No way do I think he’s horrible though. He’s definitely better than AJ Feely ever was as a franchise QB prospect.

  75. jbeatzz says: Jul 26, 2011 2:46 PM

    people know nothing…its not that hes so great, its what the market is you dotes…they got a 2nd rounder for aj feeley and he wasnt worth it either…and you cant just go by the stats, kolb has proven that he can play, but can he do it consistently is the question…he throws a nice ball and hes accurate, but in the face of pressure he seemed to lock on to 1 guy at times…his first game or 2 was rough but since then hes shown he can play effectively on the pro level…i like his demeanor and work ethic and he used to hunt and kill wild boar with a knife!!! scouts like what they see on tape, they look past the stats….that being said it wouldnt surprise me if he goes somewhere and stinks up the joint but i also wouldnt be surprised if he does well

  76. slothcat says: Jul 26, 2011 2:47 PM

    For all of you people saying that Kevin Kolb hasn’t done anything to deserve this kind of recognition, you’re probably right, however he does deserve a little bit.

    Fact : In his first two starts he combined for more passing yards than any QB in NFL history did in their first two starts.

    Fact : He torched the Falcons last year. The Falcons were a pretty good team last year.

    Fact : In games Kevin Kolb has started, finished, and had the 1st stringers on the field with him, he’s never thrown for under 230 yards in a game.

    Also, the Eagles know how to draft and mold offensive players. Most experts thought that Desean Jackson was too small to play WR in the NFL, and now he’s a 2 or 3 time Pro Bowler with multiple 1000+ yard seasons, and is the only player to have been chosen for a Pro Bowl at two different positions.

    Michael Vick went from being a laughable QB to an MVP candidate pocket passer AND runner, in only 2 years under Reid.

    Jeremy Maclin played in a spread offense…A lot of people thought it would take him a long time to get used to an NFL style offense, and in only his second year he flirted with 1000 yards, and 10 td’s.

    Lesean Mccoy was brought in as a “Westbrook clone”, and has already progressed a lot further than Westbrook did at the same time in his career.

    My point? Andy Reid knows offense, and the Eagles know how to draft offensive players. I’m not saying Kolb is the end all, be all of quarterbacks, and I’m not saying he’s even the best QB in this free-agent or trade talk class. However, based on what Andy Reid has done in the past, and his ability to produce great offensive players, there are going to be plenty of people willing to give up a small fortune to get Kolb.

  77. ace8842 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:48 PM

    Kolb put up over 40 points against the Falcons in routing them. He won on the road at SF. When given a good line, Kolb is very effective an accurate. Many of his bad statistics are because he was thrown into bad situations playing against first string defenses with lots of backups on offense. And against Green Bay he had a concussion, and GB only went on to win the Super Bowl.

  78. deenice810 says: Jul 26, 2011 2:49 PM

    I have never seen so much coverage of a player (Kevin Kolb) who really hasn’t done anything. The Eagles should unload this AJ Feely clone to anyone as fast as possible!

  79. kolb2fitz says: Jul 26, 2011 2:56 PM

    Re: emoser

    take it easy chief, still bitter after 2008? Hope that confetti didnt get in your eyes.

    Philly is about to blow this trade and everyone knows it. Greed is their own worst enemy. Could of traded him for a pro bowl corner and ran away the winners…..

  80. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 3:01 PM

    I don’t get the hype on this guy. It’s not like he had a good or great season. To me he is the next Rob Johnson or AJ Feeley and I don’t think it is a smart move for either teams.

  81. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 3:13 PM

    @ace8842 – The Eagles won 31-17 that game. Out of the 4 games he played last season, that was his best performance. He threw as many ints as tds.

  82. slothcat says: Jul 26, 2011 3:19 PM

    Also, it’s funny all the people saying Kolb has a noodle arm, or a weak arm. Kolb has a hell of an arm. It’s not Aaron Rodgers or Vick-esque, but he has a big arm none the less. Just because you say something enough times doesn’t make it gospel. Let’s use some logic in this situation.

    Fact : Since 2009 Kolb has connected on as many 60+ yard TD passes as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning…..on 1/4 of the attempts.

    Fact : Since 2009 Kolb has connected on more 60+ yard TD passes than Drew Brees, Jay Cutler, Phillip Rivers, Matt Schaub, and Donovan Mcnabb.

    Fact : Kolb might not have the arm McNabb has, but so far early in his career he’s thrown a TD of 60 yards or more once every 78 attempts. McNabb in his career has thrown one every 382 attempts.

    But these things are actual statistics, and facts…something that a large amount of PFT viewers seem to have a problem with.

  83. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 3:30 PM

    @slothcat –
    Fact: Just because he has somewhat a good arm to throw deep doesn’t make him a good QB ala Jeff George.

    Fact: Kevin Kolb threw more ints than tds last season.

    Fact: In 7 games last season, Kolb was sacked 15 times and fumbled 6 times.

    Fact: No team he will go to will have Maclin and Jackson to run streaks all game for him throw deep to.

  84. phillycheez says: Jul 26, 2011 3:38 PM

    So…. since he’s only played in a small sampling of games, wouldn’t you attribute the value that the teams interested in trading for him to be based on their analysis of his potential? It’s really no different than paying an outrageous amount to a high rookie draft pick who has never taken an NFL snap, except in this case at least they have some regular season NFL experience to go by. How many qb’s do you dopes think had all-pro, veteran-like stats in their first handful of games?

  85. schmitty2 says: Jul 26, 2011 3:44 PM

    zeckwreck says:
    Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM
    Here’s what I don’t get. How can people act like AZ has great weapons, when in fact it’s just Larry. No line, no running game, and Breaston is gone. How is this appealing to a QB again?

    At least the hawks have a revamped line, Marshawn Lynch, and a solid receiving corps. From a QB’s perspective, Seattle is the obvious choice

    Seattle has a solid receiving corps??

  86. drop703 says: Jul 26, 2011 3:52 PM

    asublimeday says: Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM

    I love all these people calling Orton a “winner”. He had EXCELLENT defenses in chicago and got benched for grossman twice. He can’t complete a pass over 25 yards without looking like he just blew out his shoulder. He’s so boring and would never win a playoff game against a half-decent defense that defends the short-medium game well, because Orton has zero deep game.

    No running game, no defense, and noodle arm neckbeard at qb = 2-14. At least you’ll get luck!

    Wow, 3600 yards in 12 and a half games, turning Brandon Lloyd into a pro bowler and a top 100 player and he has a noodle arm? He threw the ball down the field a lot the last two seasons.

    I can tell you don’t watch much football. A winner is someone who wins. That’s why we call people that.

    Kolb has looked mediocre at best with his 3-4 record. We’ll see how it plays out but he’s definitely not worth a starting caliber DB and a high draft pick.

  87. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 4:53 PM

    @phillycheez – I would if the guy were a 2nd year guy.. This is 4th year and has yet to play a full season. If a team is serious about getting a good QB for the next couple of seasons, Hasselbeck is out there and doesn’t cost any picks.

  88. slothcat says: Jul 26, 2011 5:20 PM

    @djsteel

    When did I say that his arm strength is what makes him a valuable QB? I never did. I’d much prefer someone with a decent arm and tremendous accuracy than some one with a rocket arm, who can’t make the throws that an NFL starting QB is expected to make. I simply stated statistical evidence that shows that Kolb in fact does NOT have a weak arm.

    Fact : Kevin Kolb did not throw more interceptions than touchdowns last year. Read up on your stats before you speak.

    And the Eagles O-line doing a poor job of protecting Kolb doesn’t bring down Kolb’s value. That is just common sense.

    And thirdly, if he goes to Arizona, he would be throwing to Larry Fitzgerald. I love Jackson and Maclin, but if you think any QB in this league wouldn’t love having the opportunity to throw at an elite talent like Fitzgerald, you need your head checked.

    Go sit in the corner, drink a juicebox, and let the people who actually know what they’re talking about speak. You know, the few people on this website, that can actually back up what they’re saying with proof and statistical evidence.

  89. melonnhead says: Jul 26, 2011 5:21 PM

    If this scrub is worth a first in trade, Romo would be worth 4 firsts.

  90. melonnhead says: Jul 26, 2011 5:44 PM

    But these things are actual statistics, and facts…something that a large amount of PFT viewers seem to have a problem with.

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    Well it’s A stat, anyway. A stat that’s more reliant on the receiver’s performance than the QB’s performance, but whatever.

    Another stat: For his career Kolb is 7 of 36 in passes to points 21 yards downfield or more. That’s a 19% completion percentage. If you’d like something to compare that to, AJ Feeley was 13 of 69 (18.8%) over his career.

  91. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 5:52 PM

    @djsteel

    When did I say that his arm strength is what makes him a valuable QB? I never did. I’d much prefer someone with a decent arm and tremendous accuracy than some one with a rocket arm, who can’t make the throws that an NFL starting QB is expected to make. I simply stated statistical evidence that shows that Kolb in fact does NOT have a weak arm.

    Fact : Kevin Kolb did not throw more interceptions than touchdowns last year. Read up on your stats before you speak.

    And the Eagles O-line doing a poor job of protecting Kolb doesn’t bring down Kolb’s value. That is just common sense.

    And thirdly, if he goes to Arizona, he would be throwing to Larry Fitzgerald. I love Jackson and Maclin, but if you think any QB in this league wouldn’t love having the opportunity to throw at an elite talent like Fitzgerald, you need your head checked.

    Go sit in the corner, drink a juicebox, and let the people who actually know what they’re talking about speak. You know, the few people on this website, that can actually back up what they’re saying with proof and statistical evidence.

    @Slothcat – my bad 7 ints 7tds.. still no what I would call stellar.

    and the Eagles OL is better than the Cards, so he’ll get hit MORE not less.

    Thirdly, I’d take Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, Celek over Fitz, Doucet(Breaston is a FA), Hightower?, and Patrick. Better supporting cast only makes the QB look that much better. Plus, with no help, Fitz will get easily get doubled and no running game = more pressure on the QB.

    The last point I’ll make is that Philly is consistently in the playoffs year in year out… The Cardinals will be struggling this season with or without Kolb.

    Yeah, you look real smart calling me out and looking foolish the way you do.

  92. melonnhead says: Jul 26, 2011 5:55 PM

    However, based on what Andy Reid has done in the past, and his ability to produce great offensive players, there are going to be plenty of people willing to give up a small fortune to get Kolb.

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    If offensive players (particularly QBs) had done as well after leaving Philly I might agree with you, but thats not the case. That has SYSTEM written all over it.

  93. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 6:03 PM

    @melonhead – I agree with you, especially since McNabb and Feeley looked pretty bad when they left the system.

  94. slothcat says: Jul 26, 2011 6:20 PM

    @djsteel

    I look very smart for calling you out for blatantly posting things that are not true. And you are highly over-rating the Eagle’s O-Line. And from the looks of things, the majority of people that have read my posts, and read yours, seem to agree with me. The fact that you’re arguing with me about Kolb, because I won’t say that he just flat out sucks, shows that you know nothing about football. You are the kind of scrub that says “Derp, if Kolb is worth a first rounder, than TonY RomO is worth 1637 first rounders, derp!”. I never said Kolb was great, I merely showed stats. In fact, I said that I don’t think Kolb is the best quarterback in free agency or involved in trade talks. Why are you arguing with me? Because I don’t think that the Eagles should trade Kolb for a 7th rounder and call it a day? Read and evaluate what I say before you respond to it, and study your statistics.

    @melonnhead

    I agree with what you are saying totally. Andy Reid is a master of the West Coast Offense, and nearly any quarterback with a margin of talent could win games under him. AJ Feely nearly beat the unstoppable Patriots in Andy Reid’s system, and I don’t know a person on Earth that considers Feely an elite QB. I was merely explaining WHY teams such as Arizona or Seattle might would have interest in him.

    Andy Reid might not be the best game-day coach, but he’s excellent at drafting, and is one of the sharpest offensive minds in the game today.

  95. slothcat says: Jul 26, 2011 6:26 PM

    And once again, what I’m saying is being taken out of context. I never said Kolb had Jesus accuracy with the deep ball. I simply said that he doesn’t have a noodle arm, because he doesn’t.

    Just because I defend Kolb in some areas doesn’t mean that I think he’s an elite level player. I really could care less about Kolb. It’s just ridiculous to say that he has no trade value, when in fact he does.

  96. djsteel says: Jul 26, 2011 9:11 PM

    @slotcat – there you go putting words in my mouth. I never said “Derp, if Kolb is worth a first rounder, than TonY RomO is worth 1637 first rounders, derp!”. I’m simply stating that if I were a team in need of a QB, I’d probably go after a few different ones before I go after Kolb….especially if the Eagles want what they say they want.

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