Good riddance

Signed Bronco fans

Turns out…there IS something gayer than Twilight!

“Should have gone for Kolb because Orten really sucks.”

Orton 2010 20 TDs, 9 INTs, 87.5
Kolb 2010 7 TDs, 7 INTs, 76.1

This is where I was going to have a quote and refute it and so on…then I saw the nick.

philriverslovespenis

Yeah. Gotta love those classy Bronco fans! Not even going to waste my time.

His defense was insane in Chicago. He got benched for grossman twice. He put up his numbers in throw-it-non-stop because were so far behind games in Denver.

Neckbeard blows.

As a bears fan, thanks mcdaniels. The NFC championship game is the tip of the iceberg.

I don’t know why Phins fans are pissed at Orton.

1) He had the worst D in the league

2) He had one of the worst running games in the league

3) He had a horrible coach who was in over his head and called terrible plays over and over again

4) 2 Rookies on the O-line gave him zero time to throw.

Orton is a good QB and on a good team he is a playoff caliber QB.

Orton is a good QB. My issue is I believe he is essentially Henne with more experience and a weaker arm. Orton has issues in the red zone like Henne does. Why give up $7+M and at least 1 draft pick for essentially an older (and somewhat wiser) version of the QB we already have?

I like Orton but he is being shipped out in favor of Tebow (who many experts say is not a viable NFL QB). Why wouldn’t they keep Orton and trade Quinn? The Broncos realize something that we have yet to learn.

We need a vet like Bulger to push Henne rather than Orton–a much cheaper option. They need to go after Zach Miller and a speed back like Bush rather than give up picks and cap space for Kyle.

That being said, as a Dolphin fan of over 40 years, I will root for the team and whoever the QB is. I just wish they could find a capable QB and stick with him even when things aren’t optimal and the fair-weather fans start sniping.

lostsok – you couldnt be more wrong about Orton and the deep ball . Did you even check the numbers ?”

Willie,

Not your numbers. Not sure where you got yours. Specifically, however, I was talking about actual arms…not stats. Henne was miserable statistically on the deep throw.

I show he completed only 25% of his deep throws, which ranks 29th in the NFL, compared to Orton at #11 overall with 36.99% completion.

That said…Henne has a WAYYYYYY stronger arm than Orton. Not even close. Stats lie like Republicans.

The difference is that Orton can complete a pass over 10 yards. Henne cannot come NEAR a receiver on 75% of deep passes. Most of them, from what I’ve seen, he over-throws (perhaps being to cautious, or perhaps…just not very accurate).

My post was not really based on stats, however, just watching games. I saw all 16 Dolphin games last year (watched several 2-3 times on TiVo), and was unfortunate enough to endure about 10 Donkey games. I live in Boise, Idaho and my best friend is a Donkey fan…so I get stuck watching most of their games except the rare instance they’re on at the same time.

I saw most, if not all, of Orton’s games. And, regardless of the stats, his arm is, at best, average.

Please don’t assume I’m saying that as a negative. I’m not. Pennington had a subpar arm, as did Rich Gannon…both are miles beyond Henne at this point.

I still hope Chad makes it…I like the guy…but I think Orton is a huge upgrade…whatever you say about his deep arm.

Thanks for the well-thought-out reply.

Well…at least we know they’ll be utterly wasted. Hey, maybe Jarvis Moss has a brother coming out…or Maurice Clarett will sue to get back in the draft…he’s worth another shot, honest!
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Or Miami could advise the Broncos on how to use their 2nd rounder on a 180 lb baseball player, right jack ass? There isn’t a team in the league that hits a home run every time. Speaking of wasted draft picks, haven’t the Phins wasted five 2s & two 5s on QBs that haven’t worked out? Look around you, your house is made of glass.

Palmer seems like a better fit in Miami the Orton.

Orton is a good fit for the Cards. He would make them instant contenders in the weak NFC West.

And Kolb should stay put and back up Vick. Vick is bound to end up in IR and the Eagles will need a solid backup behind him… Rumor is V. Young to Philly.

* While this makes sense, none of it will happen.

The problem for the Dolphins is that no matter what they do at quarterback, they’re too far behind the Patriots and Jests to really challenge for the division.

Sure, his record is good, but if you watched the games he played with Denver when they started out hot, they won several of those games with smoke, mirrors, and luck.

But compared to what Arizona is reported to be giving up for Kolb, Orton would we a steal. I don’t understand Kolb love at all. He had a chance to distinguish himself, and failed miserably. And now he’s going to get a big payday.

Making the playoffs this year is going to be difficult. As long as Tom Brady is QB, the Patriots will be tough to beat. And the Jets defense is killer. Then throw in the fact that the Bills were much better than its record last year….the AFC East will be fun to watch.

That’s not exactly fair is it? I mean Pat White in college was on a team with a very simple spread offense, I could teach any group of kids at the Pee Wee level in about an afternoon he wasn’t ready to start at the pro level right out of school. He had no idea how to run a pro style offense (see also Heisman winner Troy Smith).

Anyway I hope Chad Henne doesn’t get hurt holding that clipboard next season. If you looked up the definition of a QB in a dictionary you definitely wouldn’t find a picture of that guy. He can play, not a HOF level, but it’s Miami they haven’t had a guy like that in years. He’s the best choice unless you want Vince Young and all his issues along with it. By the way did Pennington retire?

Big Play Passes
RANK PLAYER TEAM STATS
1 Philip Rivers SD 43
2 Aaron Rodgers GB 40
3t Eli Manning NYG 35
3t Kyle Orton Den 35

Henne would be tied for 25th with 18

Orton didnt play the last 3 games either and still finished tied for 3rd

He had 8 completions and 4 tds over 30+ yards

Eli had 9 completions and 6 tds over 30+ yards

Rivers who had 8 completions 5 tds over 30 yards

Rodgers 8 completions and 4 tds over 30 yards

Henne had 3 completions and zero tds over 30 yards

Remember how last year this time people were saying how Marshall made Orton and how when Marshall hooked up with Henne’s arm in Miami that there would be big plays all over the place .

Well what happened ?

Orton only teamed with Brandon Lloyd to have even more big plays than he did the year before while neither Marshall nor Henne could ever connect .

Orton has shown himself to be a underrated adaptable qb and while hes no HOF’er he is at this point a huge upgrade in all aspects over Chad Henne.

Henne could still improve I will in no way dismiss someone so young but we are not talking about Henne in 4 years vs Orton in 4 years we are talking about Henne next week vs Orton next week .

I wish Denver could keep him, but with Tebow in the mix and what they have invested in him….they kind of have to let him go.

Orton was like a freebie given in the Cutler trade and he turned out better than Denver expected…imo. He tends to do that.

The fact that they passed up Drew Brees as a free agent has to make that list even more galling.