Eagles, Cardinals talks heating up

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The Eagles have removed cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from the list of jerseys that can be purchased on the team’s website.  They may be putting it back on there soon.

Reuben Frank of CSNPhilly.com reports that the Eagles and Cardinals have made “significant progress” on a deal that would send quarterback Kevin Kolb to Arizona for Rodgers-Cromartie and a draft pick.

Rodgers-Cromartie was Arizona’s first-round draft pick in 2008.  Kolb arrived in Philly via round two of the 2007 draft.

Though Kolb is likely better than anything else the Cardinals have, there’s good reason to wonder whether Kolb will be as good in Arizona as he was during his limited playing time in Philly.  Eagles coach Andy Reid helps quarterbacks play a lot better for the Eagles than they do for anyone else.

82 responses to “Eagles, Cardinals talks heating up

  1. please let this deal happen. my niners would love to play against kolb 2 times a year. not sure why there is such a fuss over a qb that played great at certain times and awful at other times even in a high powered offense. kolb is average at best

  2. Just because AJ Feeley failed doesn’t mean Kolb will. Besides, people said that about Aaron Rodgers….that he wouldn’t be good because no other QB coming out of Tedford’s system was.

    Bring on the Kolb!

  3. WOOOOOO!!! C’mon Philly. Eagles had (before they rested their starters in their final game of the season) the #1 offense in the NFL with the only weakness being the right side of their OL (taken care of with Danny Watkins on round 1 of the draft) if they start addressing their Defensive issues (CB being the biggest problem) then Eagles (who already gave the Packers all they could handle in both games last year) could really be giving the Packers something to think about!!!

  4. Kolb has 11 TDs and 14 INTs for his career. He has started a grand total of 7 games, and has a 3-4 record.

    I hope AZ knows what they are getting.

  5. They Eagles got high picks out of Donovan McNabb and A.J. Feeley. The con-artists are at it agian! Let’s bring Rodgers-Cromartie to Philadelphia!

  6. “Eagles coach Andy Reid helps quarterbacks play a lot better for the Eagles than they do for anyone else.”

    The only real good example of this would be A.J. Feeley, and the Dolphins were just complete idiots to think that Feeley was anywhere close to a franchise QB. Yes the eagles fleeced the Dolphins in that trade, but it was the Dolphins stupidity. This situation is completely different because the eagles selected Kolb with their first pick in the 2007 draft and planned to use him as their franchise QB until Mike Vick came along and put an end to that. Kevin Kolb has a much higher potential ceiling than A.J. Feeley ever had.

    Also, if you want to say that McNabb could be an example of this you would at least have to wait for him to play for an organization that isn’t terrible like the Washington Redskins before you draw any conclusions about him not being able to play outside of the Eagles organization.

  7. Larry Fitzgerald will make it easy for Kolb to look like a star. I think that Kolb could quite easily become the best QB in the NFC West. Is it worth DRC and a 1st round? I say no. DRC and a 2nd rounder? That makes a bit more sense.

  8. Can this thing get done already??? So sick of hearing the same thing for over a week!!!!

  9. I have a feeling that Kolb will be a bust. I’ve don’t see why everyone gushes over him so much. Dude hasn’t done jack in the league other that play a couple games against mediocre defenses. The Cards would be just a well off in developing John Skelton. I can see Kolb disappearing from the league in 2-3 years.

  10. I am dumbfounded. I do not understand the thinking as for giving so much up for a backup quarterback. So much for “aggressively persuing a quarterback in FA”. What a joke. I’m pretty disgusted with the Cardinals organization heads.

  11. Though Kolb is likely better than anything else the Cardinals have, there’s good reason to wonder whether Kolb will be as good in Arizona as he was during his limited playing time in Philly.

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    He was good in Philly?

  12. ” Eagles coach Andy Reid helps quarterbacks play a lot better for the Eagles than they do for anyone else.”

    I pointed out months and months ago that people should go look at the track record of trading for qb’s from Reid. He wins, the other side doesn’t. Period. This has the Miami situation written all over it.

  13. It’s a battle between Iggles fans and Cowardly Lions fans for the more delusional fan base: Vikings fans won last season.

    The weed i smoke is called mike vick; coughing and choking constanly. They are dumping Korn on the Kolb and investing too much in Vick. He proved last year he couldn’t get it done against above avergae defenses and this year, well we’ll just say it’s going to look eerily similair to BrINT Favre’s second tour of duty in MIN.

  14. yeah if i were the cards i think id be the one wanting an extra pick in the deal or at least a second and give them a third or something along those lines. i mean a proven cb for a hyped up unproven qb? not saying kolb isnt good just saying he hasnt played enough to show if hes good or not

  15. DRC and second says the Eagles FO wins another trade for a QB.

    Don’t forget this a team that got a 2 for AJ Feely lol and even better a 2 and 4 for Mcnabb who just got traded again one year later for 2 6th round picks. when it comes to trading QBs the Eagles just plain rule.

  16. Going for Kolb at an inflated price over Orton will be the nail in Whisenhunt’s Arizona coffin.

  17. how in the world the eagles can continue to get the better end of trading their players is sickening. ARC is better than Kolb straight up, shouldn’t the eagles be throwing in a pick in this deal. less wins than losses, less td’s than picks. FLEECED! Should have just got Orton

  18. Eagles coach Andy Reid helps quarterbacks play a lot better for the Eagles than they do for anyone else.
    =================================
    Right because it’s all Andy Reid’s fault that AJ Feeley had amazing weapons in Marty Booker and Chris Chambers to throw to and the mighty Sammy Morris to hand the ball off to.

    It’s also Reid’s fault that McNabb had no O-line to protect him in Washington. He got to throw to Santana Moss and who else was on that team? And didn’t they have like 4 starting RBs last year?

    Yup, ALL Reid’s fault. Blame him.

  19. oh k, if Kolb thinks the Eagles O Line was terrible, he should wait till he gets to the dessert.

  20. Gotta like the move! DRC plus a second or third round pick is a good pick up for the Eagles. just not sure who the veteran back up will be.

  21. That’s an unfair assessment of Kolb. In a lot of his games, he ad little to no reps with the starters and was thrust in for a game here, a game there in the middle of the season. His strengths and weaknesses are pretty well known but he’s clearly better than any other option AZ has and that’s why they’re sending back one of their young good players out our way. DRC is only 25 and has had 3 productive years in the league. CB was a MAJOR need for the Eagles and they addressed it pretty well with this trade. If the pick is a 2 or higher, I’d be pretty ecstatic.

  22. It’s not that they play better, it’s that they play in a very QB-friendly system. Unfortunately for Reid and the Eagles “systems” like this are typically exposed in the playoffs against the better teams that the NFL has to offer.

  23. Just make the trade already, my god. Kolb stinks, the cardinals and whose hunt r super stupid for trading for this hog-killer

  24. i dont understand why kolb is being treated like he’s this franchise qb. he was barely average last year with a very good offense. he threw as many tds as picks and gets sacked and coughs up the ball. so is he really going to be this pro bowl stud in arizona where the offense is half as good as philly?

  25. QBs are hard to come by.
    Rodgers-Cromartie is a pro bowl player, but because he is a special teams returner as well.
    He led the league in broken tackles allow.
    This is riskier for my Eagles, who now need a backup because it’s questionable Vick can play a whole season.
    Arizona has Peterson, Wilson, and Rhodes. They can make due with whoever is their 2nd CB because they now have a QB of the future.
    I’m happy for Kolb and Orton getting to start, I’m sure Fitz and Marshall are happy as well…

  26. Kevin Kolb will have the best QB numbers in the NFC West (although that’s not saying too much) and the Cardinals will win the division. I love how everyone wants to knock Kolb before he even gets a chance to be a regular starter for a franchise. Give the guy a chance.

  27. Adam Caplan is reporting that more than one team is after Kolb at least 2 so now that Orton is heading to Miami the logjam seems to be breaking and everyone else looking for a QB is calling the Eagles!

  28. Stupid move AZ. Rams fan hoping this happens. Kolb is rice pudding from hangover 2.

  29. I was going to respond to each ignorant post, but it got a bit overwhelming.

    Lest we forget mighty Brett Favre (the Buckhead Boozer) was traded for a mere 2nd rounder to the guy that drafted him.

    2 things: a) it isn’t a done deal til it’s done. (b) No way the Dolphins want Orton more than Kolb. Saying that, the Dolphins might find the price more acceptable for Orton….which ought to tell you all ou need to know.

  30. BEASTOFEDEN, Just because the Eagles lost vs the packers in the playoffs, that doesnt mean Vick choked. The Eagles lost to the eventual Super Bowl Champions and put up the hardest fight against the packers in last years postseason. And maybe Im wrong, but I think Philly was the underdog in that game. And I bet your weed is garbage too! Nothing but Northern Californias Finest for me 🙂

  31. Looks like the Eagle fas are in full force by the rating of these comments.
    Kolb has literally done nothing. He hasn’t even lived up to his billing as a 2nd round pick. Yet somehow he’s worth a pro bowl cornerback AND a 2nd round pick?
    I don’t know how he does it. But Andy Reid must be a wizard.

  32. Mike Vick a Super Star is the only reason Kolb was made available. Arizonia is smart to make the deal and Kolb is light years ahead of any quaterback taken in this years draft. What have those guys done to warrant their hype? You can’t tell me Ponder at 10 was a smart pick. He was average in college for God’s sake. Kolb will do very well in Arizonia.

  33. The Eagles will have many free agent options at backup QB. Delhomme and Vince Young to name a few…

  34. strahan92 says:Jul 27, 2011 8:58 PM

    Remember kids, Iggles never win. Giants 3 SB’s, Feebles 0.

    Watch Vick get hurt again and then…

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    You know you have a Giants fan on the run when they can only talk about their scrap book.

    Hey buddy, what have you done for me lately?

    And so the record is straight, the Eagles own 3 NFL Championships (’48, ’49 and ’60). Which is the same number as the Giants.

  35. thejabronisayz says: Jul 27, 2011 9:46 PM

    Someone remind me what Kevin Kolb has done to warrant this kind of hype.

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    Why would anyone bother? Who the hell are you?

  36. People talk about Kolb only starting 7 games and having 11tds and 14ins forget that he was 3 times named offensive player of the week in those starts. He was inconsistent but everybody is over so few starts.

  37. Are the Cards front office retarded? Why not give up less to get Orton who has proven he can win. Dont see what the big deal is in why Kolb is seen as a great QB.

    Philly may be just as dumb for giving up their backup…no way Vick will last a full season in the NFC East

  38. I think Kolb will be good in warm weather. Many of his stints in Philly were against good teams and also he was playing with backups against first string defenses. His arm strength is only adequate, but he will play in a division with domes and warmer weather. Fitzergerald is a better WR than DeSean Jackson, overall.

  39. paulec says:
    Jul 27, 2011 10:06 PM
    The Eagles will have many free agent options at backup QB. Delhomme and Vince Young to name a few…

    Paging Jeff Gar-thia?

  40. You guys on here that are complaining about Kolb getting such high praise from some of the media just sound like a bunch of haters. I get it. You dont think he’s good. But why be upset that someone else thinks he’s a good player? I bet you guys are the same type of guys that get jealous of other guys that get plenty of women. I could hear it now. . . “Why does HE get all the girls?!”. . . . . “His car isnt even that nice”

  41. OK, so the guy drafted first overall last year Sam Bradford started all 16 games last year and finished with a 76.5 QB rating and a 60% completion percentage, averaging 5.95 yards per attempt and everyone thinks he is on the right track.

    Kevin Kolb on the other hand has started a mere 7 games and has a career QB rating of 73.2 and a 60.8% completion percentage, averaging 6.53 yards per attempt and everyone outside of Philly calls him a mediocre backup.

    Get your heads out of your asses and give Kolb a chance before you trash him.

  42. strahan92 says:
    Jul 27, 2011 8:58 PM
    Remember kids, Iggles never win. Giants 3 SB’s, Feebles 0.

    Watch Vick get hurt again and then…
    Wasn’t it Parcells who said that you are only as good as your last game? The last Eagles vs. Giants game = shut your pus*y trap loser.

  43. If Kolb has any real promise, Whis is a guy capable of exploiting it … especially with Larry Fitzgerald in the receiving corps.

  44. Hey, if you guys want to knock Kolb for his inexperience, that’s fine – maybe he’ll blossom, maybe he’ll stink, who knows. But saying you’d rather have Orton? Kyle Freakin’ Orton? What’s HE ever done to make you think he’ll ever be anything more than a mediocre NFL quarterback?

  45. If I were the eagles I would be drafting a QB every year it wont matter who the QB is, there will be someone, somewhere willing to double the investment in a couple of seasons.

  46. polishrod says:
    Jul 27, 2011 10:13 PM
    strahan92 says:Jul 27, 2011 8:58 PM

    Remember kids, Iggles never win. Giants 3 SB’s, Feebles 0.

    Watch Vick get hurt again and then…

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    You know you have a Giants fan on the run when they can only talk about their scrap book.

    Hey buddy, what have you done for me lately?

    And so the record is straight, the Eagles own 3 NFL Championships (’48, ’49 and ’60). Which is the same number as the Giants.
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    Hey Genius – Giants have won 4 NFL Championships: ’27, 34, 38, 56 & 3 Super Bowls: ’86, ’90 , ’07 against an undefeated team that people were calling the best team ever assembled up to the day of that game.

    So as always mr typical ignorant raving foolish Eagle fan the championships stack up like this:

    Feables: 3 & the last one FIFTY ONE EFFING YEARS AGO!!

    Giants: 7 & the last one was 4 years ago.

    Here’s a concept, next time before you post, get educated.

  47. DRC is not as good as people give him credit for. The cards coaches and other players have said he doesn’t pay attention in meetings his rookie notes at training camp was all scribbles. He had 1 big year and everyone thinks he is the best. He gets burned because he doesn’t study the receiver he is going up against like he should. Ya he is better than most but if the cards believe in kolb and they think he is the qb for some 4 or 5 years which will also give them the best chance of keeping fitzgerald. Then get the damn deal done already.

  48. Eagles traded McNabb for a pair of 2nd picks and now they are trading their backup QB Kolb for a 1st rounder and a high pick in the draft.
    Does this trade make any sense?

  49. whatever happened to letting things play out on the field???

    so many haters are steadfast in calling KK a bust…

    Look, the guy has 7 starts under his belt, and has two NFC Offensive Player of the Week nods to show for it….

    That is one heck of a start. Not sure any other QB in the game can boast that.

    Why don’t we let it play out before speculating without knowledge….

  50. bigbwoy000 says:

    Here’s a concept, next time before you post, get educated.”

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    Hey guys, a Giants fan is talking about education!

  51. Man…a lot of trashing Kolb. I guess I get some of it. He’s not that experienced. His good games have been against mediocre teams. Then again, football people are really high on the guy and always have been. He’s shown that he can play well when he has time to prepare. He was going to be the Eagles’ new franchise QB until he got injured and Vick lit the world on fire. Most importantly, he’s one of the best QB options out there and shows real potential to be a great QB someday.

    If I were a Cardinals fan, I’d be happy. Who do you have? Skelton? ROTFL. QB is your teams biggest need, and Kolb is a very good option. As an Eagles fan, I love this trade because we’re actually getting a good corner out of it, which we need desperately. That is, if it happens.

  52. yo! guys this is a quarterback driven league if you are trading for what you perceive as a franchise q.b. the key word being perceive, you will have to give up more than a cover corner. there is no connection with trading Kolb with trading A.J. or Mc Nabb. The Eagles hold the cards(no pun intended) unless you watched Kolb play all of those games your your evaluation doesn;t mean much, for example 6 of the 14 interceptions were 1/2 time hail mary’s. I would of hoped the eagles could have kept Kolb but as a free agent at the end of the year he walks. ( QUITE FRANKLY THE CARDINALS HAVE NO OTHER OPTION)

  53. sdw2001 says:
    Jul 28, 2011 1:24 AM
    bigbwoy000 says:

    Here’s a concept, next time before you post, get educated.”

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    Hey guys, a Giants fan is talking about education!
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    Hey guys, another Eagle fan promoting his Eagle brother posting ignorant inaccuracies. Then thinks minimizing the value of an education is humorous.

    Why is every other NFL fan not surprised…

  54. I like how the Eagles always get the better end of the deal.

    For example, McNabb, Eagles got a second and third. McNabb then went for two 6th round pick (one conditional).

    Now, if this trade goes down Eagles would be a force to be reckon with, with a couple of defensive additions (LB and DL). They would have the Packers eye on them for the second dangerous (I think most dangerous but whatever) in the NFC.

    Eagles get this deal done…

    GO EAGLES!!!

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