Comments on: 10 takes on the Kolb trade

By: nycoccet

nycoccet — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:49:39 +0000

As for the veteran qb argument, its not the long term solution. There’s a reason y these vet qbs are available. They.are past their prime and on their way out and they would be back where they started in a year, looking for a solution to their qb problem. I’m not saying that Kolb is Aaron Rodgers but its along the lines of how Rodgers was brought along Both high round guys who sat learned and coached. They get a guy ready to start but someone.else put in all the.time and effort to get him ready. It’s not.like 1 or2 guys think he’s good. He was the talk of the off-season and there was a bunch of gms who said Kolb is the Mc coy.

By: nycoccet

nycoccet — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:35:05 +0000

The kolb trade is nothing like the other qb trades the eagles have made. AJ Feely was a late round draft pick that no one was too high on his talent. He had a couple good games and the Eagles turned it into a high pick. Kolb was an early 2nd round pick , that Reid took when mcnabb was.in his prime and wasn’t a need pick. The Cardinals made the right move to acquire him. If they draft a qb he has to be groomed and coached up to start. Kolb is high pick talent and ready to.start. they gave up a 2nd rd pick for a qb that was a 2nd rd pick but has been taught under some of the best coaches for 4 yrs and that’s def worth something(DRC).would u give up a 1st founder for A Rodgers after he sat behind favre learning?.

By: dsio602

dsio602 — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:48:36 +0000

You guys are stupid. DRC is waaay overrated. Fitz had 1100 yards with mediocre QB’s throwin at him. Can you imagine with a decent QB like Kolb. Good God….

By: steelerjon

steelerjon — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:53:36 +0000

For the most part, the Iggles have gotten the most of of their QB’s under Andy Reid. The excpetions being Doug Pederson (who tutored Donovan) and Mike McMahon (who played during one of Don’s injuries). Both were god-awlful!!!!

By: ur2smooth

ur2smooth — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:45:09 +0000

What’s funny is the Eagles will lose Vick to an Injury and then you guys have to hope that the head case you guys just signed as a back-up will carry your team. Kolb is a risk but it was risk the Cards had to take to keep Fitzgerald. That alone is worth it.

By: shadowgm1

shadowgm1 — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:16:55 +0000

Ten takes by team front offices OTHER than the swindling Eagles and the gullible Cardinals:

1. Awful trade
2. Shocking trade
3. Dreadful trade
4. Atrocious trade
5. Horriffic trade
6. Deplorable trade
7. Distressing trade
8. Appalling trade
9. Repulsive trade
10. Abominable trade

By: sc5000

sc5000 — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:55:19 +0000

FLEECE JOB!! Anyone ever think that is doesn’t matter what his stats are, Andy Reid has had a lot of guys play there best football for HIM! I don’t think that is a by chance.

By: purpleisreallypinkyouknow

purpleisreallypinkyouknow — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:17:17 +0000

I’d put some side money up on Kold being knocked out for awhile, or maybe even put on the IR, between weeks 4 and week 10.

They’ll be out of the playoff race by week 11, regardless. That schedule will prove brutal on AZ.

By: goahead9

goahead9 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 03:23:43 +0000

pthepro69!!

We’ll see! Early to tell. You think niners are money?

By: pthepro49

pthepro49 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:15:15 +0000

I am so glad AZ is in the 49ers division. They will be lucky if they win 5 games again. They completely blew the franchise on Kolb. To pay a guy 63million who has started only 7 games, has more interceptions than TD’s, and has a losing record as a started. This is Scott Mitchell all over again except it is AZ instead of Miami. What a joke!!!

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:44:20 +0000

robotyoster says:

everyone saying cards should have gone for orton because the cost was way cheaper…look at orton’s completion % was on 3rd down last year. also, look where denver finished last year.
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Their defense was horrible, they had no running game to speak of, the line was dominated by rookies, and Josh McDaniels was a train wreck as a coach. They could have had Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas splitting time at QB and still finished in the basement. I don’t think Orton is great, but blaming him for Denver’s problems last year shows a serious lack of knowledge.

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:40:21 +0000

The new contract with the huge guaranteed money is what shocked me. I guess the idea is to take a bit of pressure off Kolb by showing they’re committed to him long-term, but that’s a ton of money they’ll never get back if he doesn’t cut it. And they have no Plan B on the roster that I can see, so if Kolb struggles, they’re completely done…and Whisenhunt is likely gone.

By: rdixon50

rdixon50 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:19:24 +0000

Everyone in America has heard about the Philly fans. Throwing snowballs at your own team, booing Santa Claus, etc.

You can act intelligent and like you know something about football AFTER you win a Super Bowl. Until then , you don’t (and can’t) count. Schmucks.

By: sasquatchery

sasquatchery — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:29:54 +0000

I also think people are overlooking the fact that, while entertaining, DRC was a bit of a pansy in the backfield. He had his Deion moments when he didn’t want to hit anyone and would take a play or two off. His inconsistency was troubling. Add that with Horton’s new philosophy on D and it adds up to a “pro-bowler” who no longer fits the system. So the loss – while definitely a loss, sure – isn’t as big as most people thing.

Look, Philly fans have another thing coming if they think he’s gonna be the end-all be-all on the right side of the field. If it weren’t for Rodgers overthrowing what’s-his-name, DRC would have been run out of town…

just saying.

By: robotyoster

robotyoster — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:12:24 +0000

everyone saying cards should have gone for orton because the cost was way cheaper…look at orton’s completion % was on 3rd down last year. also, look where denver finished last year.

By: jimkempner

jimkempner — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:57:03 +0000

Those are silly arguments. Kolb should be compared to a 1st round, unproven qb coming out of college. I’d guess half the 1st rounders taken this year will not succeed, i.e., will not become solid starters. Kolb on the other hand has a started a few NFL games and performed well enough to be named player of the week. To me that means he has more upside, more potential to be very good than any 1st rounder. And if a team cannot get as much out of a qb as Andy Reid and company can, then the problem is with the coaching and not with the qb.

By: aram42287

aram42287 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:22:56 +0000

Its funny how all of a sudden all nfl fans think he is a shut down corner, when in fact a few months ago he was a bum.

By: aram42287

aram42287 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:22:04 +0000

DRC is all speed….wake up call speed deminishes with age. He got burnt so many times last year….Plus Cardinals got Peterson

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:58:42 +0000

seahawksfan37 says:
Jul 28, 2011 7:55 PM
What if kolb plays great? The packers traded for brett farve. Remember? Farve wasn’t proven either. Packers got the biggest trade still in history besides the bucs an 49ers for Steve young. So kolb may work.
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The Packers didn’t give up a Pro Bowl player and a second round draft pick for Brett Favre.

Think about what you’re saying: a Pro Bowl player and a SECOND round draft pick for a player who “may work”?!?

I think the defenders of the trade on here are missing the point. Kevin Kolb MAY turn out to be an above average NFL starter.

But the price that the Cardinals paid, when they had no real remaining competition to get him, is way too high.

By: mdnittlion

mdnittlion — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:46:19 +0000

Hope Kafka isn’t the actual back-up option. I mean his back-up in college was actually better kind of like JaMarcus Russell and Matt Flynn

By: vbe2

vbe2 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:17:40 +0000

@ infidelamriki says:Jul 28, 2011 6:16 PM

It’s actually going WAY UNDER REPORTED that Philly is ALSO sending the Cardinals a 2nd round pick! “The Eagles later confirmed the deal and said they were sending a 2012 second-round pick to Arizona.” – http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8210ca92/article/eagles-deal-kolb-to-cardinals-for-cb-rodgerscromartie-a-pick?module=HP11_cp
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That’s a mistake in that article. Why would the Eagles swap 2nd round picks without knowing where in the second round the Cards will pick? Suppose the Eagles go 0-16 and the Cardinals win the Super Bowl? The Eagles would be dropping from the first pick of the 2nd round to the last pick and if it’s JUST the Eagles giving a 2nd rounder and Kolb for JUST DRC then the Cardinals raped the Eagles.

Only the Cardinals are giving up the 2nd round pick (and DRC). The Eagles are only giving up Kolb.

By: crubenst

crubenst — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:05:35 +0000

You ate WAY overrating a 2nd rnd pick. Especially if your looking for a qb. You act like good young qbs grow on trees. Like hall or skelton will be good. Maybe the eagles should have gotten a 1st rounded. Who would you rather have Christian ponder or Kevin Kolb? I rest my case.

By: indyeagle

indyeagle — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:59:12 +0000

Melon,

I agree with you on Romo. Just because I’m a Eagles fan doesn’t mean I’m blind to how good Romo can be. I judge qb’s on two factors:

1) What I see with my own eyes.

2) How nervous I get the week before the Eagles face them. Romo makes me nervous, therefore, I must think he is pretty good.

I don’t care what his numbers say. Same goes for Kolb. I’ve watched him play and I know what he is capable of. I’ve said it before and I will say it one last time, then I’m never commenting on here about it again. …………I will accept all the apologies from the Kolb haters come January.

By: jshawaii22

jshawaii22 — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:57:57 +0000

It was the best trade in NFL History!

signed… all the fans of the Seahawks, Rams and 49′ers.

By: seahawksfan37

seahawksfan37 — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:55:29 +0000

What if kolb plays great? The packers traded for brett farve. Remember? Farve wasn’t proven either. Packers got the biggest trade still in history besides the bucs an 49ers for Steve young. So kolb may work.

By: drexelvol

drexelvol — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:51:39 +0000

“Even if that guy is Brett Favre.”

In the words of Howard Stern’s father, Ben, don’t be stupid you moron.

By: The Shoeman

The Shoeman — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:49:02 +0000

seabreezes51 says: Jul 28, 2011 7:23 PM

Since the only place I have heard that the Eagles sent a #2 back to AZ was in that single sentence, I’m gonna guess that was a misstatement.

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Yeah … there was a typo on the NFL page.

but,,he wants it to be true ?

By: goldrush94

goldrush94 — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:47:56 +0000

@indyeagle

says: Jul 28, 2011 6:45 PM

There is nothing worse in all of sports than “stat guy”. Please, for the love of God, watch the kid play a little before you throw out his stats as a reason he won’t succeed. Kolb has “it”. NFL talent evaluators see it, you bozos on your couch don’t. I wonder who knows more?????/
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Yeah, NFL talent evaluators really see it! Cause there has never been a bad FA signing or draft pick.. especially the QB position.

By: goldrush94

goldrush94 — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:44:13 +0000

Garcia had his best years in SF, and Vick had some pretty good season’s in ATL too, so let’s not go overboard on what great QB coaching Eagles have done. If that was the case, why so many QB’s?

I think you were thinking about Indy, GB or NE.

By: teal379

teal379 — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:40:34 +0000

Kolb’s gonna have to sink or swim but in the back of my head I keep thinking – “Dealing with the Eagles on QB’s is like trading pics with NE on draft day – you’re gonna get screwed”

I won’t say I watched a ton of Kolb. I wanted to but Clay turned him into a tent peg and basically gave Vick the Eagles job in the process…

He might be great but the halls of “crap QB’s” are filled with guys who impressed for a game or 3.