NFLPA keeping close watch on cuts of player reps and alternates

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As the NFL continues its frenetic pace of signings and releases, some of the players who have been released have played significant roles in the recently-concluded labor effort.

A source with knowledge of the situation, but who has requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject, tells PFT that the NFLPA will be monitoring “with vigilance” any decisions to cut player representatives and alternate player representatives.

Since Tuesday, three players fit that category.  Receiver Derrick Mason (pictured) was the Ravens’ representative, and center Shaun O’Hara was the Giants’ rep.  Tackle Max Starks served as the alternate in Pittsburgh.

Whether the NFLPA can prove retaliation is a much bigger, and more convoluted question.  For now, the message to every team is that the soon-to-be-reconstituted union wants to be sure that none of the men who led the effort on behalf of all players lose their jobs because of it.

41 responses to “NFLPA keeping close watch on cuts of player reps and alternates

  1. The union* needs to relax. The guys that got cut were getting paid too much, for doing too little. The O’hara cut shocked me, but that was more because he is Coughlins son-in-law. I still think he’ll be back with the Giants.

  2. This smells funny. Please do the vigilance.

    obtw:
    Wonder if Mason would be willing to replace Kenny Britt?

  3. lol.

    Mason will likely be brought back at a lower price. Gee, think Starks getting cut might of had something to do with him pushing 400 pounds?

    NFLPA doesn’t have a case.

  4. It would seem a lot easier to prove this if all of the players in question weren’t members of the AARP in addition to the NFLPA.

  5. I can’t imagine that any owner in his right mind would hurt his team by telingl a coach to cut a productive player because he was active for the NFLPA. OK, Mike Brown would but I mean owners who are rational.

  6. At the risk of sounding naive, this patently absurd.

    It stands to reason that a player rep would be a more experienced, maybe even one of the most experienced (IE Old) players on a given team. So logically they are going to be at risk of being cut as most teams constantly value getting younger.

  7. I find it really hard to believe that an NFL team would act counter to its self-interest and cut a guy simply because he was part of the union leadership. If a guy is a good player, and he doesn’t make trouble for you in the locker room then you keep him.

    It’s far more likely that some of the NFLPA team reps and alternates just fall into the “old, overpaid, and/or not that good any more” category that is so hard on veterans. I mean, Derrick Mason is 37. A 37 year old WR getting cut should never be a surprise.

  8. Exactly, now if the Lions go and cut VBosh then there would be something up but most of these clowns are over the hill and have been spending more time in conference rooms than gyms the last few months.

  9. Ummm, as a general rule… the player reps are older, established players because who’s gonna vote in a rookie or 2nd year player to represent them.

    Next, let’s add in the concept that player reps NEVER get replaced.

    And finally, their leader is already retired (Mawae).

    So yeah, most player reps are long in the tooth and/or injury prone. Mason and O’Hara both fit that description perfectly

  10. Max Starks wasn’t cut as a punishment to Big Ben, he was cut because he currently weighs about 400 pounds. His excessive weight is about equal to his excessive contract.

  11. It has happened before. We have owners who want to bring things back to the way they were in the ’70s. Guess what happened in the 70’s, no matter how good the player, if he became the NFLPA rep, he was G-O-N-E.

    In prior lawsuits, the same thing happened. The name players were chopped. One of the reasons the players went with Brady, Manning and Brees this time. A little harder to chop them without it being obviously retaliation.

    In other words, yes, the owners will cut players despite any damage to the team.

  12. dcbassguy says: Jul 28, 2011 2:50 PM

    The union* needs to relax. The guys that got cut were getting paid too much, for doing too little. The O’hara cut shocked me, but that was more because he is Coughlins son-in-law. I still think he’ll be back with the Giants.

    ——–

    Thought Snee was his son-in-law.

  13. I think the site is negligent in pointing out Mason’s release but not representing the fact the Dominique Foxworth of the Union’s Executive Committee is still on the roater with a huge cap number. If ownership wastruly targeting reps, it is odd they are rewarding the union leaders. The Ravens have a clearcut excuse to axe Foxworth with no repurcussions because of his injury and his cost, yet nothing has happened to him. Sounds to me if you wanted to slay the union beast you woild go for the head not an old toenail that needed cut.

  14. Then there is Foxworth who never could play.

    He just Talks the talk.

    Great guy…………….intelligent guy……..

  15. Vonnie Holliday is next after seeing all the DL moves the ‘Skins are making!

    Player reps are normally the oldest guys (or team leaders). Shouldn’t be a surprise when they get cut.

  16. Dont forget the players committee.

    Kevin Mawae – old…was he even on a roster last season?
    Mark Tauscher – old & beat up from injuries….probably will be cut.

  17. dcbassguy says: Jul 28, 2011 2:50 PM

    The union* needs to relax. The guys that got cut were getting paid too much, for doing too little. The O’hara cut shocked me, but that was more because he is Coughlins son-in-law. I still think he’ll be back with the Giants.

    ————–
    Chris Snee is Coughlin’s son in law, not O’Hara.

  18. I might have missed something but a majority of the NFLPA player reps were long time Vets. Is it possible that these guys might have just negotiated themselves out of jobs? After all, it is much cheaper for NFL teams to go young now as opposed to signing and keeping Veteran players. Why pay a Derrick Mason a ton of money when AJ Green was just given a 4 year $19 million contract?

  19. Mawae still believes it’s a conspiracy that he’s not a starting center. It starts at the top and rolls downhill.

  20. They shouldn’t complain foxworth still has his job while josh wilson is gone! Foxworth should be cut but I bet the Raven’s hands are tied. He has a bum knee and wasn’t that good before he got hurt!

  21. Or it could be that teams want to be “YOUNG” … especially after seeing the Draft & Develope Packers win the superbowl over the Load & Buy Old Free Agents Vikings crumble….

  22. O’Hara was cut because he’s an eleven year vet that played in a whopping six games last season and the team protected Manning better without him. He did make the Pro Bowl but all that proves is Pro Bowl voting should be taken away from the fans.

  23. ” Retaliation ” is very difficult to prove, and to do so, Mgmt. would have to be able to document multiple occurrences of what would be considered “offenses”, and then have witnesses to each one. This is a messy and most difficult business.

  24. Kevin Mawea (spelling)

    perfect case of a NFL player being black balled. Crazy how no one brought that up last year. Multiple teams needed a C last year includin the birds, but no one pickedup a perenial Pro bowler?? cmon.

  25. Looking at this year alone is not enough. Need to look at the last ten years, which includes periods of no labor unrest and the CBA renewal in 2006.

  26. Mason’s a 37 year WR.
    Starks was hurt last year and Pitt made it to the SB without him
    O’Hara is 34 years old and was hurt last year.
    There’s no conspiracy here.
    How come Brady, Brees and Manning haven’t been cut? Mankins is signing his one year tender and won’t be cut. Jeff Saturday is still the center for the Colts. Dominique Foxworth hasn’t been cut either.
    Stop with this nonsense NFLPA.
    Plus, the owners locked the players out. They were the ones who wanted to change the deal. The players didn’t strike. What are they retaliating against? That they players didn’t kiss their collective asses?
    Dumb theory here.

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