Redskins trade Albert Haynesworth to Patriots

AP

Mike Shanahan got the deal he wants, and now Albert Haynesworth is Bill Belichick’s problem.

In a blockbuster trade for a player who’s capable of being one of the best defensive linemen of the league — or one of the biggest headaches in the league — the Washington Redskins have traded Haynesworth to the New England Patriots, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.

The compensation for the former NFL Defensive Player of the Year is a fifth-round pick in 2013.

Haynesworth, who will have to pass his physical for the trade to become official, is scheduled to make $5 million this season.

169 responses to “Redskins trade Albert Haynesworth to Patriots

  1. this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.

  2. If Belichick switches to a 4-3 front he’ll have Wilfork and Haynesworth as his middle men, could be nice. He still doesn’t have any rushers though.

  3. As a Pats fan this is either the shot in our defenses arm we need, or the single biggest mistake of Bills career as a coach.

  4. Wow only a 5th? Great trade for the pats… Billichek is the only coach that can keep this guy werking… If he can’t he’s a lost cause…

    Skins baffle me… Things like this that make me think it could be worse, I could be a skins fan…

    Jus sayin’

  5. WOW!!! Didnt see that coming!!! Hopefully he can get his act together and be the player he once was. I have my doubts, but we will see.

  6. Although the Pats didn’t really give up anything, this move doesn’t make sense for the Pats. They already have Wilfork to play NT and Haynesworth just spent a year complaining about playing in the 3-4. Where does he fit in in New England?

  7. glen1904 says:
    Jul 28, 2011 6:29 AM
    this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.

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    Yeah.. Moss’s monster YEAR for the Patriots got Bill a ring… oh wait.. it didn’t… In fact, we’re coming up on a almost a decade since Bill won a ring…..

  8. I thought Albert only wanted to play in a 4-3. The Pats are a hybrid 3-4. I wonder if Billy, who knows he has OLB issues, changes his defense to be 4-3 more often to take advantage of Albert’s talent.

    This is one we will have to see play out.

  9. I like the notion that Shanahan is cleaning out the distractions, getting younger, etc….but God I hope he doesn’t sign Vince Young, or it will look like he really hasn’t learned anything at all….

  10. OMG…How could anyone see that.?

    Corey Dillon was no saint before he got there…and look what he did…3 years on being an angel.

    When Belichick has ability to befriend hard to get along with guys…like Jim Brown….you know there is alot more there than monotone press conferences where he just mocks the press.

    Looks like Wilfork has a new buddy.

  11. @glen1904 – and exactly how many rings did Bill get with Moss?

    Get real people – Pats gave up nothing for him, which reflects his value. It’s a no risk move, which means it’s a great move. But dont plan any parades on the basis of getting Haynesworth.

  12. tombradysbaby says: Jul 28, 2011 6:31 AM

    As a Pats fan this is either the shot in our defenses arm we need, or the single biggest mistake of Bills career as a coach.
    =================================

    That second part has a tall bar to clear after Belichek traded away the pick used on Clay Matthews but this one just may be able to do so.

    Haynesworth has never played worth a darn except in years his contract was expiring.

  13. I think one of if not the greatest coach ever thought about bringing in Haynesworth very wisely.

    And I also think he forgot more about American Football than most of you ever will be able to learn, so I am pretty sure he has a plan.

    Wait and see.

  14. Glen1904,

    Hate to use, you know, facts and all, but the Pats didn’t turn Moss into a Super Bowl ring. They, in fact, eventually turned that into the same old distraction Moss was elsewhere and traded him.

    The Pats may have cobbled together a team of nobody’s to win their Super Bowls, and did take other team’s cast-offs (like Vrabel – who coolant break a Pro Bowl laden Steeler line-up), but BB has hardly taken a pile of misfits and turned them into champions.

    Haynesworth is a chump and always will be. No matter who he is playing for.

  15. If they do that 2-4-5 type thing, then i don’t see why Albert would complain, it’s basically a 4-3 front….just with two olbs instead of two de’s

  16. So now we understand BB’s solution to the Pats’ chronic outside linebacker problem: change to 4-3-4 (or 4-2-5) as primary D, moving Spikes to the outside. As Inspector Clouseau would say, The problem, it is sol-ved (sic)!

  17. The Pats fleeced the Skins? How so? The Skins got a 5th for a Turd they were going to have to flush at some point. Instead they left NE a floater and got a free can of lysol to boot. The Turd still has to pass a physical (no easy feet) and he still has a legal issue in DC (grabing a waitresses titty).

    As a Skins fan its hard for me not to be pleased with this offseason so far. Sound FA moves and getting draft picks and a player (Gaffney) for players they were going to have to cut anyway.

  18. As far as the 3-4 / 4-3 they play out of the sub package so much that it isn’t as big of an issue as you would think

  19. So, if he comes in and acts like a tool- you cut him. If he is motivated and plays well the Pats is is a brilliant move.

    I am wondering how long it takes for him to pass the conditioning test!

  20. Great trade on the Pats side. A fifth rounder in any draft is a roll of the dice, so even if Albert continues with his present path, there’s nothing really lost here.

  21. Seems like a typical Patriots-esque move. They do have a thing for maximizing a talented malcontent. But, as someone already stated, didn’t he dislike the idea of playing in a 3-4 scheme last season?

    I’m a little sketpical, but it’s not like they mortgaged the future for him.

  22. For the first time in Belichik’s reign he has a player that he will not be able to convert/brainwash. If he thought Moss was a jackass…..oh boy, just wait.

  23. Wow. All I can say is wow.

    I can say one thing for skins; they know how to get rid of garbage.

    Haynesworth is screwed. If he doesn’t get his head straight Bellichek will punish him all season long. He don’t mess around.

  24. I don’t think anyone here has the first clue whether this will work, or not.

    I do know two things: If anyone has a chance to make Haynesworth a productive player, it’s either the Patriots or the Jets; and it’s a great trade for the Pats. A low risk with a very high upside. If Haynesworth is a pain in the butt, Belichick will have absolutely no qualms about cutting him, and all he’s lost is a fifth round pick. If he manages to shut up and play football, Belichick just stole a game-changing, disruptive defensive tackle for a fifth round pick. Low risk, high potential return. Belichick’s a very smart guy.

  25. This move is idiotic! He hates playing ng! Why do you think he’ll want to play in a 3-4???

  26. To all you Pats, Eagles, and non-Skins fans who think the Pats “fleeced” the Skins – do you realize that the they would’ve happily given Haynesworth away for LESS than a 5th in ’13? This guy was gone either way, they didn’t care what they were gonna get, as long as it was something.

  27. This move suggests that the Pats are about to switch to a 3-4 D with Wilfork and Hanesworth in the middle. These guys will have Stroud, Warren, Wright along with some young guys who played well last year. Deddrick, Love, Pryor and Brace. I wonder how much they have to pay AH?

  28. Of note…….the Patriots “physical” typically includes passing the conditioning run. Many past Pats players have started the year on PUP, until they could pass the test. Should be interesting.

  29. glen1904 says: Jul 28, 2011 6:29 AM

    this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.

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    With all due respect, you can’t make a statement like this when 6 years have passed since the Patriots won a SB. Not being a follower of the Patriots, which trade did Bille make like this that led to the 2004 and 2005 Super Bowl titles? (not being a smarta$$ with this question, I’m genuinely curious).

  30. You win some and you lose some.. that is how this whole thing works…Being a pats fan, I hope this works. If you are not a pats fan, you hope this does not work… clearly this guy has potential. let us see what happens

  31. I love seeing all these pats fans thinking they got a deal. From a redskins fan the guy is CANCER. Good luck getting him to play in a 3-4 inbetween his resting downs on the turf. 5th is a great deal for the skins. Their the ones that got something out of nothing!

  32. Good deal for the Patriots, they get a potential all-pro for very little. If he acts like a turd they can drop him without hesitation.

    Good deal for the Redskins. Firstly they get him off the roster. Second, they at least temporarily keep him out of their division and conference. The chances of meeting the Patriots in the Superbowl are nil for at least a couple of years.

    They’ll get to sell it to rest of the Redskins roster that they traded him to a team where he can compete for honours, whilst they actually got to prevent him from going to a team where he can play against the Redskins twice a year.

    Good deal for Albert Haynesworth. Belichick is a great defensive coach who changes his scheme to match his players. He has been using a lot of 4-3 looks for the past couple of years and is almost certain to use more now that he has Haynesworth. He doesn’t have any great 3-4 pass rushers at the moment, so a switch to the 4-3 base isn’t going to waste any talent on his already on his roster.

    The fat one will also get a shot at winning a ring. The Patriots will be contenders for as long as they have both Brady and Belichick. It might just provide Haynesworth with enough motivation to actually earn his salary.

  33. Next to Wilfork? This is the kind of move that makes guys like Mike Vrabel and Roosevelt Colvin get 12 to 15 sacks a year.

  34. Only Belichik could pull off something like this because only Belichik can make something of Haynesworth – the guy has tons of talent but he’s a jerk. For a 5th round choice 2 years from now? And we all know how good the Pats are at stocking draft choices. If Haynesworth plays up to his potential the Pats have a large part of their defensive line woes solved. If he doesn’t get rid of him. This surprised me as much as their drafting Mallett from Arkansas, but when you think of it it does make sense.

  35. luckynumberlucas says: Jul 28, 2011 6:50 AM

    “I think one of if not the greatest coach ever…”

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    A little bit of a reach there pal. He isn’t even in the top-20 all-time. He MIGHT be in the top-10 of active coaches. Even that’s a stretch.

    I think someone named Brady has a lot more to do with the Pat’s success than Bill does…

    Without Brady he’s 52-60 (only 2 winning seasons)
    With Brady he’s 110 – 34

    Do the math….

  36. I was a bit skeptical of the Randy Moss experiment when news of it first came down. That worked out a lot better than expected, at least for a while. I am way more skeptical of this fiasco working out. This guy could be a huge contributor but he is just such an a-hole. I really doubt they can get him in line. He just doesn’t care anymore now that he is rich.

  37. nflofficeadmin says: Jul 28, 2011 7:11 AM

    Dan Snyder… the world is laughing at you.
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    I’m not an administrator here at PFT, but if I were, I’d modify your post to say “Dan Snyder… the world has been laughing at you.” For a long time.

  38. @Glen1904 – They traded for Corey Dillon in 2004 which was considered a problem child in Cincinati but then again what player in Cinci keeps their nose clean!!!

    However, I’m wondering about this one trade… unless the Pats are changing to a 4-3 front, I don’t see where Haynesworth fits in. I know last year they were in sub packages a lot so maybe it’s time that they change their D over. With Warren, Haynesworth, Wilfork & Stroud on the line and Cunningham, Mayo & Spikes playing LB it could get interesting! Low risk on this trade but very high potential, looking forward to seeing how this works out!!!

  39. The Redskins were quoted on Tuesday as saying they’d take anything at all for Haynesworth (but wouldn’t cut him), including a “ham sandwich [pronounced “SAM-mich” in some locales].”

    We now know what a ham sandwich is worth: a 5th round pick two years out.

  40. Not being a follower of the Patriots, which trade did Bille make like this that led to the 2004 and 2005 Super Bowl titles?
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    Clock Killin’ Corey Dillon played a huge part.

  41. “this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.”

    Nice theory, but Billy didn’t win a single one of his rings with Moss. He won them with ‘character guys.’

  42. Not a surprising move when you look at Patriot history. They took a flyer on the horrible draft bust John Sullivan after the buffet incident in New Orleans. Forget what the trade ended up being but Sullivan didn’t last in New England anyway. Love or hate the Patriots, they are the very definition of shrewd in the NFL. All they do is low risk/high reward especially with the draft. And really, you guys got this backwards. Its not a matter of if he doesn’t pan out no biggy and if he does the Patriots look like geniuses. Its if he doesn’t pan out Shanahan is proven correct and if he does pan out it proves Shanahan is an idiot. So I fully expect him to start opening day under those parameters.

  43. @bhester1906 says:
    Jul 28, 2011 7:14 AM
    I’m worried about the skins pats game in December now

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    Wait, you’re just now worried about that game? Have you looked at their roster? That was gonna be a nail biter but now it’ll be a blowout! haha

  44. LOL I would be worried about the skins pats game in December even if haynesworthless wasnt a pat

  45. hscorpio says:

    Belichek traded away the pick used on Clay Matthews but this one just may be able to do so.
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    clay matthews is hardly the worst (non) decision of bill belichick’s career. More than 20 other teams didn’t think clay matthews was good either. he had 5 sacks in college, and didn’t get good till he juiced in the pros. everyone willing to admit the truth knows it’s true. to this point it’s a tossup between derrick burgess and adalius thomas for worst belichick decision.

  46. Skins had to clear that locker room of ALL distractions. They are building depth and getting younger. Now training camp can be focused on football and they can continue to rebuild.

  47. Finally! Good riddance and good luck with your baby antics…BB will cut you if you don’t put the effort in. I’m happy this big baby was dealt to a 3-4 defense. Boom! Roasted! Hail!!

  48. quirtevans says:
    Jul 28, 2011 7:04 AM
    I don’t think anyone here has the first clue whether this will work, or not.

    I do know two things: If anyone has a chance to make Haynesworth a productive player, it’s either the Patriots or the Jets; and it’s a great trade for the Pats. A low risk with a very high upside. If Haynesworth is a pain in the butt, Belichick will have absolutely no qualms about cutting him, and all he’s lost is a fifth round pick. If he manages to shut up and play football, Belichick just stole a game-changing, disruptive defensive tackle for a fifth round pick. Low risk, high potential return. Belichick’s a very smart guy.

    acers5 says:

    I’ll give you the fact that Belicheat is a smart guy….he fooled and cheated the NFL until HE GOT CAUGHT! And, the “genius” hasn’t won a super bowl since. If you call “winning” a super bowl as spying on your opponent and illegally taping them, yes, than that is winning. hey, if you’re not caught it’s not ch……ahh….forget it!

  49. fatguystrangler says:
    Jul 28, 2011 7:02 AM
    Seems like a typical Patriots-esque move. They do have a thing for maximizing a talented malcontent. But, as someone already stated, didn’t he dislike the idea of playing in a 3-4 scheme last season?

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    The Patriots play out of a base 3-4….but y0u will often see a 4-3 set. At times they even line up with no down lineman….you see three, four, or even five guys just standing there. The Patriots are called a 3-4 team, but its just a label…you have to call them something

  50. Hey you drunken Eagle fans who think BB fleeced the Skins – we would have cut is fat butt later today anyway. I think BB will get something out of him and that is fine because he was not going to work in DC. I don’t like Danny Snyder and he has made one awful move after another but you cannot say he does not want to win and if you start to pay attention you would see that the Skins are rebuilding the right way through the draft and smart FA signings. You should be worried because Danny will spare no expense and he has truly gotten out of the way to let football people do their work. What happened with Steinbrener got out of the way with the Yankees? 4 WS in 5 years? So drink your Yuengling’s and talk tough you championship-less weasels.

  51. Lets see.

    Dan Snyder signs Haynesworth and McNabb to Mega contracts and then trades them for combined 5th, 6th and a conditional 6th round pick.

    Great strategy Dan. Buy as high as possible and sell as low as possible.

    Ouch.

  52. Given that the Pats D ran out of a nickle for roughly half the defensive downs played last year, and there is no guaranteed money due to Fat Albert as the Skins already paid it…Def a high upside. Smart move.

  53. $100 bucks he makes the Pro Bowl for NE at some point. The Redskins organization and system is a complete joke and therefore Haynesworth became a joke just like most players that play there, e.g. Brandon Lloyd, etc., etc., etc.

  54. If you look hard you can see what Belichick is up to. The dirty secret of the Pats last year was that they were becoming too much of a finesse team. With Solder, Cannon, Dowling, Lee Smith, Ridley, Vereen, and now Haynesworth they have become much bigger and more physical at many positions. I now understand why they didn’t draft a 3-4 OLB or DE, they clearly will play much more 4-3 and are retuning the team in that direction. Things got a lot more interesting.

  55. Lets get one thing clear before anymore ppl who dont follow the Skins (or know the game in general) talk about how the Skins baffle them…Haynesworth had no trade value b/c he was going to be cut soon and any team could have had him for free. This is the 2nd time in 2 days that the skins have gotten a draft pick (albeit not necessarily a high one) for a player that did not figure into their plans and wouldve been cut otherwise…definitely taking steps in the right direction…good riddance to, both, Mcnabb and this loser.

  56. This is hilarious… Obviously a move to get the other Pats players
    In shape faster, Wilfork and Hworth will eat all the food at camp. Poor Logan Mankins won’t get his sghetti.

  57. Wouldn’t shock me if the Pats and Eagles had some kind of deal worked out where Hayneworth now gets flipped to them for their 5th and another pick for their trouble. The skins didn’t want Haynesworth going to a division rival, so this could have been a way around it. Probably not, but seems like it could be possible.

  58. Yeah.. Moss’s monster YEAR for the Patriots got Bill a ring… oh wait.. it didn’t… In fact, we’re coming up on a almost a decade since Bill won a ring…..

    Yup, it’ll be a decade in 3 more years. Good one.

  59. lol at all the “smart football fans/commentators” who said the Redskins would NEVER be able to trade Haynesworth or McNabb and that they had to just cut them. MANY fans boasted about this regularly.

    You were wrong.

  60. Wow, pretty obvious what Bill is doing here. He actually ran a sub-package defense, which is a 4-3 defensive front, 57 percent of the time in 2010. I saw this switch coming in 2009, when half the league had switched to the 3-4 this made it harder and harder to find those rush players to fit his 3-4 two gap system. Im not saying hes going to switch entirely to the 4-3 but I think this helps to explain the stroud signing also. This is a typical VALUE move by the Pats, not some ridiculous Free Agent signing that they pay too much for (look around the league this year), and if it doesn’t work they cut him loose and lose a 2013 5th rounder.

  61. Low risk move. If he is a malcontent, cut him and lose only a 5th rounder. But if it pays off, it could pay off big! For O-lines to deal with Wilfork and Haynesworth will keep coaches up at night.

    Someone get Sanchez a clean pair of underwear….

  62. WoW! Pats get this guy for a 5th rounder in 2013?? Great move. Even though he hates the 34 defense and Wilfork is already there, he came cheap and they can find a role for him. I’m sorry the Jets didn’t go after him with Kris Jenkins departure after 2 season ending injuries, would’ve been a good move for the Jets as well. Either coach has what it takes to get him to play!!

  63. Can’t believe I am saying this, but you gotta kinda hand it to the Skins.

    Everyone was saying during the lockout that they would have to release AH and DM because the league knew they had to get rid of them and thus wouldn’t trade for them.

    Yet the skins managed to get something, however meager, for both of them.

  64. double LOL at the people here saying that the skins got “fleeced.” the same people said that the skins devalued him so much that he would be “untradeable.” the same people said that the skins should have taken tennessee’s offer of a 4th rounder last year.

    so, now you are disappointed the skins didn’t just cut him and you have to torpedo this deal. the reality is, the pats took a chance and it may just pay off, so good effort on their part. but he was definitely not working out for the skins, so honestly, for them to get a 5th round pick out of it, it was tremendous.

    bottom line, if you think this was a “bad move” for the redskins, then you don’t understand anything that’s been going on in football over the last year.

  65. As a Skins fan I’m happy. The guy was gone one way or another, getting a fifth and sending him out of division (the Eagle rumors had me nervous, I could see that slob getting up and playing all world against the Skins), out of conference is a winning solution. hell getting a bag of chips would have been a score let alone an actual draft pick.

    To all the folks thinking AH is going to go to NE and set the world on fire from the getgo it would be wise to look at his track record. He very well could do just that but the chances are pretty low considering his attitude toward work of any kind and his attitude toward the 3-4. He and anyone else who thinks trading Shanahan for BB is going to be an EASIER ride is in for a big surprise. BB is just as much of (if not more) a control freak and he’ll tolerate Haynesworth’s crap no more than Shanahan did.

  66. A 5th rounder is better than a flat out release. Haynesworth was going to be gone either way. Unfortunately, he will probably go into NE and be an absolute beast, but all he would have continued to be in DC is a cancer. Nice move by both squads.

  67. This is a really great move by New England… for a 5th?! This is the steal of the new season, so far.

    All the haters posting here.. you know that your first thought was Oh S*!t. And you know what? Rightfully so. Say anything you want but Wilfork, Haynesworth and the return of Ty Warren is going to force teams to commit an extra one or two players to keep their QB upright and the pocket intact.

  68. There isn’t a player in the league that could tear that locker room up. Things are done a certain way in Foxboro and if you don’t conform, you are out. How can trading a 5th round pick for a potential monster be bad? It really can’t.

  69. Wow, for once someone fleeced the Pats…getting any compensation for Haynesworth and his horrendous amount of baggage is a STEAL. Could have picked up Haynesworth for free after he got released….wow. NOt like BB doesn’t have like 500 future 2nd round picks that he got from trading down though so I guess not a big risk for the Pats. Btw, I’m not a fan of either team, just an outside fan.

  70. Potentially a win win for both. Redskins needed him out even if they just released him.

    Pats give up 2013 5th rounder of which we know Bill will somehow get back as he always does with his plethora of parlaying picks.

    If Fat Albert can stay in line and produce then the Pats get a steal. If not, then they cut him with very little guaranteed cash left on that fat contract.

  71. Wow, for a year I watched and read people on this site suggesting that the Skins should trade or cut him…then when it actually happens, you say they got fleeced? Either people are exceptionally biased or exceptionally stupid…you pick;)

  72. They will play a hybrid with Stroud and Haynesworth at DT in the 4 man fronts. In the 3 man front Ty Warren will play LDE, Wilfork NT and Hayneworth / Stround will rotate at RDE. Will be elite stopping the run and will keep the big men fresh but I’m still not sure about their OLB’s and think their secondary is highly overrated.
    Big Jake Long is gonna dump Haynesworth on his fat a55.

  73. I’m happily surprised the Skins got rid of Fat Albert before training camp started!!! The biggest cancer from the last two seasons for the Skins that I am chuckling hearing Pats fans are excited about that disaster!!! I guess the Pats are 4-3 now? Otherwise Shanahan has burned Fat Al by trading him to another 3-4!!!

  74. If Bill can get Fat Al to actually play in a non contract year, I will consider him a miracle worker.

  75. Jim Washburn is credited for “getting the most out of Haynesworth”, but he was really only a great player for two years. The last year of his contract and the year he was franchised. After that big payday in Washington I don’t know f he will ever be motivated to play like that again.

  76. I think that it was personal between Shanahan and Haynesworth… the multi-day saga of Albert flunking his conditioning test day after day to open camp last year and Shanahan calling him fat and out of shape in the media led to a complete shutdown by Haynesworth.

    I’m not saying that Belichick can motivate him or that Haynesworth has anything left in the tank, but I can’t see Belichick saying anything bad about the guy publicly. Just remember how much he praised Moss as he was trading him the the Vikings.

    The Patriots traded a 5th rounder for Alex Smith (TE from Tampa) last year and cut him… so the jury is still out on if Haynesworth makes the team.

  77. Sorry not sure about 3-4 OLB’s or 4-3 DE’s. Matt Roth would now be a huge pick-up as he can play either LOLB in the 3-4 or LDE in the 4-3.

  78. Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the Skins still owe him all of the guaranteed money? In that case, the Pats can see what this guy brings to camp, and cut him for nothing if they decide he’s not worth it. This was a good move.

  79. shawnleblancpatsfan says: Jul 28, 2011 7:48 AM

    @Glen1904 – I also forgot about Rodney Harrison…
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    Not to nitpick, but Harrison was a free agent for the Patriots, after his release by the Chargers.

  80. Dolphins still have the best front 7 in the division and the Pats D will rank 3rd in the AFC East again this season. Dolphins are gonna win the toughest NFL division this season with better QB play, better interior o-line play and the top D in the league – ya heard it here.

  81. joetoronto says:
    Jul 28, 2011 6:31 AM
    Cue Pats fans saying BB will keep him in line.

    The dude is trouble with a capital T.
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    You won’t see me saying that. I am disgusted by this move. This is worse than Moss and Dillon. Neither one of them by themselves had the issues that Haynesworth brings. The Pats got one fabulous year out of each of them…that’s it. After the one fabulous year, they gave them both big money which IMO was a big mistake.
    I hate this move.

  82. IN BILL WE TRUST! If anyone can keep this guy in line it is Bill Bellicheck but the Patriots locker room doesn’t have the Bruski’s and Vrabel’s any more to help keep those guys in line. Hope it works out!
    ps- Bill is not a cheater he just works harder and is smarter then everyone else!!!!!!!

  83. dccowboy says:
    Jul 28, 2011 7:35 AM
    “Blockbuster”? You keep using that word. I do not thin it means what you thin..

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    Awesome!!! A Princess Bride Reference. I am usually in mode of insulting cowboy fans wherever I go but that was great!

    To the “eaglesfootballfan” Prowbowler? AH (a**hole) was a probowler when he wanted to get paid other than that his initials said it all. They trade a player they were going to have to cut and got something for him. The drama is gone and they can get on with training the players that want to play.

    I want you to remember this saying ” ’tis better to not say anything that all and be thought of a fool that to speak and remove all doubt”

  84. @ jnbnet

    Ok, in that regard, yeah the move makes more sense to me. I wasn’t aware of their mixed schemes.

  85. jackbassett says: Jul 28, 2011 7:11 AM

    glen1904 says: Jul 28, 2011 6:29 AM

    this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.

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    With all due respect, you can’t make a statement like this when 6 years have passed since the Patriots won a SB. Not being a follower of the Patriots, which trade did Bille make like this that led to the 2004 and 2005 Super Bowl titles? (not being a smarta$$ with this question, I’m genuinely curious).
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    2 words:

    Corey. Dillon

  86. If there’s just one thing we should have learned by now, it’s “never question Bill Belichick” …….. I mean, if he told your grandmother to run a slant, he’d have a plan for that.

    But …… seriously, Coach ……… Haynesworth???

    WTF??????

    Who else in the NFL would take this stiff, even for FREE???

    What does Bill Belichick know that no one else in the NFL knows …. well, besides EVERYTHING.

  87. WOW…another great personnel choice gone. Great job shanarat and midget weasel owner. 4skins have no talent and are a lock for last place in the NFC EAST AGAIN and the Andrew Luck sweepstakes….HAIL SUCKAS!!! LETS GET IT ON!!! LMAO.

    Shanarat might get the boot after this yr. when they go 2-14…LMAO.

  88. saturn1111 says: Jul 28, 2011 7:32 AM

    “this is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.”

    Nice theory, but Billy didn’t win a single one of his rings with Moss. He won them with ‘character guys.’
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    In fact, that first team with Moss produced one of the greatest SB chokes in history with the undefeated Pats losing to the wild-card Giants.

  89. For the non Pats fans, or haters, or whatever the cliche is to use to describe you, here is the deal with Belichicks “3-4” defense. He plays 3-4, and 4-3 equally. If he has the pieces for a true 3-4, that is his preference. If he has the pieces for a 4-3, then he plays a lot of 4-3. That is part of the problem for opposing offenses, you never really know which D the Pats are going to be using. With that said, we have seen for years, the Pats take traditional nose tackle type players, and put them at defensive end. Mike Wright, Gerrard Warren and Vince Wilfork all played D End last season.

    Lets not forget that the Pats D-line is very deep this year:
    Ron Brace
    Brandon Deaderick
    Marques Murrell
    Eric Moore
    Gerard Warren
    Ty Warren (missed last season to injury)
    Mike Wright (missed games to concussions)
    Kyle Love
    Myron Prior
    Marcus Stroud
    Darryl Richard
    Vince Wilfork
    Mike Wright
    and now Albert Haynesworth

    I realize that not all of those guys are pro bowlers, lol, but every one of them showed the ability to be a solid productive player when he saw the field last season. But any D Line that has Haynesworth, Wilfork, and Ty Warren is going to be tough to match up against. If you add a 4th lineman (Wright, Stroud, G Warren) for some 4-3 front, even better

  90. And this is the difference between winning and losing the patriots make this deal they are geniuses if the bengals made the same deal it would be typical loser bengals getting another trouble player can we trade mike brown for some pretzels please

  91. Hey burgundyandgold, Daniel Snyder may want to win. Unfortunetly, for you it’s not gonna happen because spending big dollars on aging WRs doesn’t bring rings. Then I ask who is going to be throwing them the ball? The mighty John Beck? WOW!! Now that’s intimidating! You sound as senile as Al Davis. So listen up crazy guy, put the dooby down and sit and wait as my Eagles come to put up another video game beatdown on your sorry foreskin butts.

  92. This is the kind of deal that get bill the rings, takes someone problem for nothing just like Moss and will go there and have monster years.

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    I must have missed all those rings they won with Moss.

  93. This isn’t a matter of who “fleeced” who. This a trade with 2 winners. The Pats got a boom or bust player for about what a boom or bust player is worth. They gave up what amounts to a low 2012 6th round pick for a guy who could very well be cut in a month.

    BB is taking a shot at a guy who CAN play the game if he’s motivated. But he makes the trade knowing that he was going to be cut to ensure that he gets him. Who knows where he goes if he gets to FA.

    IMHO one of the key reasons for this trade is due to the way the passing game has evolved in the NFL. The way the short drop passing game has come into vogue, its become more and more critical to have a pass rush threat up the middle to create immediate pressure on the QB. IF, and that’s a big IF, Albert pans out. The Pats have gotten that rare commodity of someone who can create that kind of pressure. A 4-3 sub package of a motivated Haynesworth and Wilfolk can BE that kind of rush threat.

    However if he’s a turd then he’s gone by September at no cap cost. Win win for both teams.

  94. “For the first time in Belichik’s reign he has a player that he will not be able to convert/brainwash. If he thought Moss was a jackass…..oh boy, just wait.”

    Thought he tried that with Jonathan Sullivan, the 1st round bust from New Orleans. Guy only lasted half a season.

  95. @B&G

    I will laugh my @ss off if the Pats find a legal means to parlay this to my Birds. We’ll give them their 5th back and a conditional one based on production. Fat Al loves Washburn and would respond to him.

    Enjoy your basement.

  96. ruggerlad says:
    Dolphins are gonna win the toughest NFL division this season with better QB play, better interior o-line play and the top D in the league – ya heard it here.

    You’ve got an all-pro QB in your back pocket, do you?

  97. Oh, and thank you burgundyandgold for letting us violate you on that Mcnabb trade. 2nd and a 4th for a 6th and maybe another 6th? I’d pull the trigger on that deal any day of the week. Once again, your vaunted leader has lead you astray. So lose the hope, and hope for his stocks to crash. Cause your redskins use to suck, do suck, and always will suck. Face facts that’s your life, so go have a drink.

  98. I’m really intrigued by this. Not really mentioned above, our Pats defense have long lost the type of guy to can be nasty, gritty, tough, and more importantly, a playmaker. Having someone with his swagger on the field could be infectious. The Jets defense is full of them and to their credit, they back it up week in and week out.

    We have up until now, a bunch of guys who are scared of the wrath of Belichick and have played like it. I want to see how this pans out – but for a fifth rounder two years from now??? Hell, BB is going to acquire seven more fifth round picks between then anyway. We essentially got him for nothing.

  99. Now Belichick’s expertise deserves to be questioned!!!

    Unless they go to a 4-3, they’re screwed!!! They could sign or shift one or two unknown guys to defensive end(s), but this move is dumb!!!

  100. semperfi is spot on. The Pats aren’t a classic 3-4 team in the same sense that the Steelers are. Haynesworth isn’t a NT–he’d be the first to tell you that, if his time in Washington is any indication. He’ll be a DT in the 4-3 and probably a strong side DE in some 3-4 packages.

  101. Haynesworth’s biggest issue with the 3-4 was that he didn’t want to play NT. With Wilfork in NE, they won’t ask him to. He’ll slide over to 3-4 DE, which actually fits what he does even better than a 4-3 DT.

    I hate the guy, but I love the move.

  102. Child please….trading a player for a 5th rd pick does not constitute a “blockbuster trade.”

  103. jonnybaltimore..

    Bill sure hasn’t been that smart for awhile ..6 yrs ringless….2 yrs in a row, 1 and done, embarrased at home…No one fears the Pats..

    Brady and Bill- 3 consecutive playoff losses…

  104. Well it’s beats the ham sandwich I figured the Redskins would get for him.

    Something is better than nothing ~ especially for a lazy turd like AH.

  105. Yeah.. Moss’s monster YEAR for the Patriots got Bill a ring… oh wait.. it didn’t… In fact, we’re coming up on a almost a decade since Bill won a ring…..

    Is it 2015 already?
    Buffoon…

  106. cup1981 says:

    A little bit of a reach there pal. He isn’t even in the top-20 all-time. He MIGHT be in the top-10 of active coaches. Even that’s a stretch.

    I think someone named Brady has a lot more to do with the Pat’s success than Bill does…

    Without Brady he’s 52-60 (only 2 winning seasons)
    With Brady he’s 110 – 34

    Do the math….
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    Please list those oh-so-many active coaches better than him. Since he MIGHT be one of the Top 10 of coaches in the NFL right now, which is in your words, a stretch.

    The world awaits your brilliant insight and analysis.

  107. @pats fan from Washington…

    Its 50/50 Lets wait and see. Don’t hold your breath. Lets enjoy the show which ever way it goes.

    Good luck, Sincerely.

  108. Low risk, potential high reward – I like it. Not many teams can take on a problem child with little risk to team chemistry, but the Pats are definitely one of those teams.

  109. @ everyone beating up on Glen-
    They made history with Moss. That offense will be legend forever, and that’s post spygate so deal with it. Randy was a believer in ’08 too.

    And yall talk about rings like Bill ain’t got none. Unless your a PIT or NYG fan, really, you’re just blowing smoke. Maybe IND too. Everyone else- Glen misspoke like your mamma misbred…

    @ all the guys who think WAS just got something for nothing-
    They kinda did, but they turned something to nothing first. Zorn and now that lunatic Shanahan. Somebody should take that team away from Dan Snyder.

    This player was incredible on Tennessee and was then signed to a team with terrible coaching and ownership, no direction or really even the will to win. You’d lie down eventually too. He’s a competitor who shot his way out, it happens. Unless he’s contemplating retirement like real soon you’re going to see what you missed out on soon enough.

    I do think WAS will be a better team this year, it’s just going to be through Shananahan’s shining path to mediocrity.

  110. @cup1981

    Most of that was in Cleveland, a team determined to lose, no matter what the cost. NE went 11-5 without Brady, actually with a QB that was completely untested in the NFL, Won their last 4 after a loss to PIT which looked like a season killer…

    @ Timmons94

    NE wins again, we have 3 consecutive playoff losses you only have 1 : )

  111. If Bill Belichick can turn this dude into anything more than what he is now, a lazy, butterball-shaped, human time-bomb, then he’s not only one of the the greatest coaches of all time but also possibly the greatest psychiatrist.

    Move over, Dr. Phil … here comes the shrink with the hoodie.

  112. I’ll shut up soon I promise…
    Just thinking, with a bigger more aggressive front defense and the beautiful things going on with this secondary… Who needs linebackers? Good ones are hard to find these days (theyre all on BAL), and with a huge but fast 4 man D front and a tough but talented set of corners and safeties (Pats are in Nickel a lot anyway, they usually are forcing teams to throw just by scoring consistently, now by taking away the run) you just need a couple smart decision makers in the middle (Mayo, Spikes) to control the field.

    Also this D is being built specifically to terrorize and snap the up and coming offenses in NYJ and BAL, the current and future challengers in the AFC.

  113. so, are the pats switching to a 4-3 then? cause im pretty sure fat al isn’t down to play in a 3-4.

  114. I don’t think anybody saw this coming, they actually got him for a 5th round pick…..WOW.

  115. cup1981 says:

    A little bit of a reach there pal. He [Belichick] isn’t even in the top-20 all-time. He MIGHT be in the top-10 of active coaches. Even that’s a stretch.

    I think someone named Brady has a lot more to do with the Pat’s success than Bill does…

    Without Brady he’s 52-60 (only 2 winning seasons)
    With Brady he’s 110 – 34

    Do the math….

    Really? I don’t want to argue with you because you obviously aren’t very well informed about NFL football, but if you want EIGHT expert opinions about the best coach in football then read this:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/27641/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-head-coaches

  116. Haynesworth didn’t want to play NT in a 3-4, but he was willing to play DE in the same 3-4. Washington only wanted him at NT.

    BB will put him @ DE and all will be well….

  117. ok first off anyone who thinks bill belichick isn’t the greatest active coach or one of the greatest coaches of all time doesn’t know anything about football or just hates the patriots

    That being said i think this is a great move as a patriots fan…haynesworth was a malcontent because he hated shanahan and because they tried forcing him into a system he wasn’t at all comfortable with plus shanahan repeatedly went out of his way to embarrass him…he’s gonna be ultra motivated next year the same way randy moss was and if he isn’t they cut him and just lose a 5th round pick…we needed a pass rusher and when this guy is on his is one of the most dominant pass rushers in the league he can slide to the right end in the 3-4 and also play the 2nd tackle spot in the 4-3 when the patriots switch to that as they did a lot last year…this will wind up being a total steal

  118. By the way, MDS should only be allowed to write for PFT if he knows any facts.

    The big time error in his column: HAYNESWORTH NEVER WON DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!

    Think about it, please MDS!!! Even if he truly was the best defensive player, he would never win because the media would know that he only played on deals 1 year remaining to get a BIG FAT PAYDAY!!!!

  119. Goes to show that the Pats arent as sharp as they want you to believe they are!! I wouldnt wish this waste of space (roster spot) on any team! …Well except maybe the Stealers..

  120. burgundyandgold says: Jul 28, 2011 7:52 AM

    What happened with Steinbrener got out of the way with the Yankees? 4 WS in 5 years? So drink your Yuengling’s and talk tough you championship-less weasels.

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    Says the guy who’s team will be in the bottom of the NFC East again. Yankess pay a luxury tax. Did Snyder manage to get a provision where the Skins can have a 200 million dollars more in salary than every other team?

    Guess you just don’t know dick about sports.

  121. Everyone on here is trying to say BB is the only coach who can get anything out of fat Albert and this is the best place for him to go, which. simply isn’t true. Everyone is forgetting that so far the only coach to get anything out of him was washburn and the eagles would probably be the best place for him to go. The Redskins know that and did what they had to to keep that from happening. With that said, I’m glad the Eagles didn’t get him, they are moving in the right direction and don’t need to risk adding a cancer to their roster and mess everything up. With washburn as the d-line coach he can make new stars outta the eagles young linemenand bringing Jason Babin back was huge so good luck to the patriots with that and unfortunately this move made the Redskins better as well

  122. celly84 says:
    Jul 28, 2011 12:01 PM
    Haynesworth didn’t want to play NT in a 3-4, but he was willing to play DE in the same 3-4. Washington only wanted him at NT.

    BB will put him @ DE and all will be well….

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    It was discussed at nauseam here in the DC area. He only wanted to play DT in nickel packages and wanted absolutely no part of the 3 man front regardles position.

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