Comments on: Rookie wage scale could be the first step toward guaranteed veteran contracts

By: andyreidisfat

andyreidisfat — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:26:48 +0000

youboettcha says:
Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM
All contract should be performance/incentive based.

Yes because that worked so well for XFL

By: youboettcha

youboettcha — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:52:33 +0000

All contract should be performance/incentive based.

By: youboettcha

youboettcha — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:46:09 +0000

The only reason these contracts are fully guaranteed is because:

1. They’re first round picks
2. They’re for relatively low amts. of money (up to $22 million, not $75 million)
3. These are the first four years in each players career, and usually, 1st-round picks stick for at least 3 years.
4. It prevents hold-outs
5. It’s low risk. Imagine if Nnamdi gets a 6-year $75M contract and suffers a career ending injury in year one. That team has to pay all $75M. They’re screwed.
6. There are other ways to guarantee two-way commitments, like player options. If instead of a 6-year deal, Carson Palmer signed a 3-year deal with player options for years 4, 5 and 6, he could be outta there.

By: btowngetsdown

btowngetsdown — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:44:46 +0000

I respect Mike Brown’s stance that Carson Palmer gave his word and signed a contract, and that he should honor that. Although Palmer’s retirement is a big loss for the Bengals in trade value, Brown has set the precedent for the future.

That being said, I would like to see a PFT post that identifies all of the times that the Bengals (and Brown) have cut a player mid-contract or forced them to renegotiate a contract. That post would expose the hypocrisy of Mike Brown that the players should honor their contracts but the team could do whatever the heck it pleases.

By: jlinatl

jlinatl — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:17:53 +0000

A good size signing bonus accomplishes the same thing as guaranteed money. And it works for both sides by getting the player money up front while still allowing the owners to recover if there is a problem.

By: moneymike23

moneymike23 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:04:48 +0000

“And that makes us wonder whether agents, once in the habit of negotiating fully guaranteed contracts, will start asking for fully guaranteed veteran contracts.”

I thought they or ready did. Panthers are still paying Jake Delhomme.

By: Slim Charles

Slim Charles — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 04:19:14 +0000

Step in the right direction. Gotta love the double standard here. Fans get angry when a player outplays his contract but holds out for more money, but don’t have a problem with the owners cutting a player that’s under contract, even if the player is injured.

I never understood the man crush some fans have on a bunch of greedy old billionaire owners. We should make a separate league for you guys where the owners play each other for all the losers that supported them during the lockout.

By: pappysarcasm

pappysarcasm — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:24:17 +0000

If the owners cave to the agents and set that precedent, they are idiots! Owners: Tell the agents to GFY!

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:15:04 +0000

LOL, football finally gets up to speed with the rest of the sports world. Next thing you know they’ll be letting the kids play football for a living at the same age they’re allowed to go to war.

By: quizguy66

quizguy66 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:00:58 +0000

Interestingly enough, the Bengals were the one of the first, if not the first team to sign their first round pick this year. They guaranteed all the of the $19+ million they signed him for. It’d be kinda funny if things change and guaranteed contracts become the norm and Brown rails against them.

-QG

By: pittsburghsteelerz

pittsburghsteelerz — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:51:36 +0000

Ask the NBA how the ol’ guaranteed contact thing has been working out…

By: raqaiw

raqaiw — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:42:44 +0000

Football contracts should never be guaranteed,not with the current cap system in place. All it takes is one hit to turn a team’s fully-guaranteed multi-million dollar investment into a paraplegic. Baseball and basketball can get away with it because the teams are smaller and because there’s way less violence involved.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:28:57 +0000

Just imagine how big of a d-bag Haynesworth would be with a guaranteed contract.

By: footballfanatic3431

footballfanatic3431 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:25:18 +0000

I don’t get it. Why would teams ever want to give a player a fully guaranteed contract?

Can you imagine if the Redskins did that with Albert Haynesworth?

By: benlw2

benlw2 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:24:29 +0000

Funny how Mike Brown has been pointed out in the media and by some PFT fans, but here he is noted as a potential precedent in “bipartisan fairness.

By: duanethomas

duanethomas — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:23:49 +0000

Thats what I thought when I started seeing the rookies get less money, but have their contracts fully guaranteed. Its only a matter of time before veterans demand the samething. Then you are going to see a true shift and the power will transfer from the coaches to the players, just like the NBA. Its already happening with the limited contact practices and off-season. Not a good thing.